Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any experiences with Dirac Live Room Correction / NAD C 658
I very highly and intensely recommend Dirac room optimization. IMO it is *the* top breakthrough in optimizing system performance of the last 20 years. ...pablo Server: Win10 and LMS 8.2.0 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115482 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] KEF LS50 II wireless
marflao wrote: > I'm using tapatalk hence haven't seen your sig. > But this is not an excuse for me asking you if you paired them via a > pi/pCP combo. I should have read your post more thoroughly ;-) Absolutely np. I am actually considering the active V2 as we speak. My SqBoxen (and I have plenty SB Touch and SB3s and even Booms) are still performing without fault, so I don't anticipate using PI/pCP, but never say never... :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113004 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] KEF LS50 II wireless
marflao wrote: > How do you "feed" the LS50? In case you use a Pi/pCP combo may you share > the squeezelite settings? My setup is in my sig, just replace KEF Ref1 with LS50. :-) I have the passive version in red. So they can't be fed directly by a Pi/pCP combo... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113004 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] KEF LS50 II wireless
I have far more expensive speakers... but use first gen KEF LS50 most of the time. A phenomenal speaker at any price. I can't imagine the current gen to sound noticeably better. I have compared them to $20k+ speakers, too. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113004 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optimal Volume Level with SB Touch
schiff1108 wrote: > I was always hearing that it is the best to do attenuation at the last > point in the chain. Hence, I have tested some while ago In-Line > Attenuators between the preamp and the power amp. Have tested different > set-ups and I am very satisfied and continue to use them. > Actually, I listen to music at 12 o'clock with all the known benefits. > Here to read: > http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co.uk/html/attenuators.html > My attenuators were built by a friend. Thanks - I just ordered some Rothwell balanced attenuators. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111714 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is this better than CD quality?
I'd also like to pile it on when it comes to the quality of recordings. I find myself disagreeing with a lot of the stuff that is positioned as a super high recording standard out there. A lot of those are very sterile sounding, and rarely feature top artists and ensembles in a really inspired performance. It sounds sharp, but is "meh" artisitically, imho. Then there's the stuff everybody thinks every audiophile must cream his pants all over to be credible. Cliche stuff like Daft Punk's Random Access Memories. To me it's like "There's barely a single acoustic instrument reference point here, and they mixed this with musicians laying down their particular track all over the world and artificially mixing it together." If I hear anyone babbling about Nile Rodgers' "amazing dynamics" I'll crush their skull with an oversized wrench. Really. Is it odd some of my favorite recordings are 1960s tracks like Bill Evans' "Waltz for Debbie" or the Coltrane/Hartman album? There's also stuff like Kevin Mahogany's Enja albums, you can tell they were all *Present* in the performance, not listening to stuff on headphones by themselves while laying down their paid for track. And that is when the recording is good. I agree the majority of music is at best very indifferently recorded. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111693 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optimal Volume Level with SB Touch
pablolie wrote: > I am just using digital inputs on the DAC2HGC, one comes from the TV, > the other from the SB Touch. The Becnhmark indeed acts as both a DAC and > a preamp, and feeds into the NAD M22 power amp. The DAC2 also has > internal an internal attenuator, which I set to -20db. That allows me to > keep the Benchmark volume set around the 11am mark. > > I keep the Benchmark around that 11am volume mark for the following > reasons: > > * It is recommended by Benchmark for optimal sound quality. > * Higher than that the (fixed) Toslink output from the TV is LOUD. given > my config I like to match things a bit. > * It allows me to control the volume for music -which really is my > utmost priority- with the Touch, from the 30s (nice mellow alarm volume > in the morning) up to typically 80-something for immersed listening > (good volume, not too loud), depending on the sound engineer's loudness > choice. > > Thanks gents! I should note the following about the Benchmark DAC2 - the digital system never passes any analog volume control: ".. The DAC2 combines active analog gain control, passive low-impedance attenuators, a 32-bit digital gain control, and a servo-driven volume control. All inputs are controlled by the rotary volume control. This volume control moves in response to commands from the remote control. Analog inputs are never converted to digital, and digital inputs never pass through an analog potentiometer. Digital inputs are precisely controlled in the 32-bit DSP system. The DSP system preserves precise L/R balance, and precise stereo imaging, while avoiding any source of noise and distortion. .." ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111714 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optimal Volume Level with SB Touch
I am just using digital inputs on the DAC2HGC, one comes from the TV, the other from the SB Touch. The Becnhmark indeed acts as both a DAC and a preamp, and feeds into the NAD M22 power amp. The DAC2 also has internal an internal attenuator, which I set to -20db. That allows me to keep the Benchmark volume set around the 11am mark. I keep the Benchmark around that 11am volume mark for the following reasons: * It is recommended by Benchmark for optimal sound quality. * Higher than that the (fixed) Toslink output from the TV is LOUD. given my config I like to match things a bit. * It allows me to control the volume for music -which really is my utmost priority- with the Touch, from the 30s (nice mellow alarm volume in the morning) up to typically 80-something for immersed listening (good volume, not too loud), depending on the sound engineer's loudness choice. Thanks gents! ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111714 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optimal Volume Level with SB Touch
Thanks for the informative and helpful responses - as always. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111714 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optimal Volume Level with SB Touch
I have a rather high powered amp. If I turn the Benchmark DAC2 to 100% volume the SB Touch can't play at more than 55. I tend to keep the DAC2 at 50% and that allows me to crank the Touch volume up to 80 (that's entertainingly loud but not annoyingly loud), but typically more like 72. Do those setting impact sound quality, in your opinion? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111714 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is this better than CD quality?
RobbH wrote: > .. (There was a story that the capacity was dictated by the wife of > Sony's president, who insisted that Beethoven's Symphony #9 had to fit > on one disc.) Like most new technologies that seem at first to be > perfect, because they are free of the obvious problems of past > technologies, it took some time for people to learn to hear the > imperfections of the CD format. Many -- probably most -- of us have > never learned, and we are usually happier for our ignorance. But I don't > think it's at all reasonable to think that, because I usually hear no > difference between 16 and 24 bits, or between 44.1 and 96 KHz sample > rates (with ears that are old enough that they hear little or nothing > above 10 KHz), therefore anybody who claims to hear a difference must be > wrong. https://www.philips.com/a-w/research/technologies/cd/black-giants.html A fun article on the development of the CD. There are sources that claim it was Karajan who insisted it needed to be 74 mins to receive his backing (9th indeed). I am part of the club that claims existing music playback tech probably doesn't allow me to hear beyond CD quality, and that's in the rather rare cases we're talking about a great recording - I'd estimate 90% of music is recorded indifferently, surprisingly often even ineptly. That said, I do have quite a few high resolution copies of my favorite albums, but I do it mostly for archiving and psychoacoustics. :-D ...p ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111693 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
garym wrote: > I used fixed output from the Benchmark and use SB (and ipeng, etc.) to > control volume. I use the variable output out of the DAC2HGC to the power amp. The DAC2 colume is around 12oclock as a rule (the Toslink audio out of the TV is fixed, so I need the DAC2 as a volume control, but seldom change it), and for music the Touch controls volume anywhere from 40% to 100%. Works very well. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
I use an external DAC with a Touch, ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hahahahahahahahaha
NAD is a pretty good brand all in all. The M22 power amp uses Hypex. Yes, I am partial as per my sig. Sure there are lower priced manifestations, but hey. It's one of those things where you never have to worry about an amp again (ha- famous last words). Then again - who is so helpless they think they need an audio brand for ripping and streaming stuff? Your chain starts at the DAC. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109212 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squezzebox 3: power supply recommendation. other tips?
Fahzz wrote: > My problem with the cheap PSU's is the failure rate. ... > Completely and totally agree. The stock PSU has utterly sucked in my experience. In my environment it quickly impairs remote operation. Hence I also bought an "improved liner" power supply, and been trouble free since. ...p ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108708 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Subwoofer recomendations
I use a Velodyne Minivee and can recommend it. It is very solid and disciplined and -at least for me- provides all the bass I'll ever need. But I should also note that I am clearly not a basshead. I keep the sub at 10-20% volume (and often turned off). That may also be because the 7inch "Torrent" drivers in the Totem Element Fire speakers provide fun bass extension. Subs are tricky to set up to really complement your system. Less is more. I don't want a cello to sound like a blue whale's mating call. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] arnyk RIP
Bummer. I got my first SB when I was 41. I am 54 now. Wonder if these suckers will survive me. And if anyone in my family would know what the hell to do with my music setup. :-) Shall miss ya, SB bro arnyk. Hope that without physical constraints HDrez is now audible in all its potential glory. We'll meet you in a forum on the other side eventually. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109027 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TeraDak Power Supply for Touch
Recoveryone wrote: > I also believe in the clean power theory, but I choose the full power of > a power conditioner, I have put one in each of my systems in my home. I should note my standard PS ran off a power conditioner, always. None of my stuff runs off the regular wall. But my power conditioning isn't exotic. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108895 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TeraDak Power Supply for Touch
Fizbin wrote: > Or you could have just bought another original PS. The remote not > working on the Touch is one of the first symptoms of PS failure. (But, > hey, at least you didn't replace the IR module like a lot of others > have) For some reason this was the 4th original PS. Enough... Remote is working like a charm! :-) ...p ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108895 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TeraDak Power Supply for Touch
I got tired of the standard PS getting so dirty that it prevented operation of the SBT remote. Finally decided to go for a cleaner TeraDak supply, despite the questionable price ratio (~$130 on Ebay) compared to the Touch price point. The temperamental remote behavior is *gone*. Build quality is excellent (haven't looked inside), but nice alu audiophile casing and all :-) Sound quality? Sounds great. :-) Better than the standard PS? I *think* I can hear a bit more transparency etc, but sue me, it's not as if I was ever unhappy with sound quality before. :-) The remote operation bothered me, despite the fact I mostly use a tablet for navigation. All in all I regard it a worthwhile update if you're willing to part with $130 for a dedicated power supply, and it's not that much money. :-) 24838 +---+ |Filename: 20180401_111429 copy.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24838| +---+ ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108895 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Subwoofer recomendations
I have a PSB. Subs ultimately are just frequency fillers. Under 80Hz you have no clue where stuff comes from. I just look for a very solid chassis and the promise of accuracy in setting the cutoff frequency. I also would never ever allow my speakers to be fed off the sub. Direct off the preamp/DAC, please. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma
Mnyb wrote: > I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, Im little > sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/ > > It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just > for pure nostalgia . I don't miss vinyl one bit, even though I still have my albums and my turntable in storage. I haven't used them for over 15 years, so it's time to let them go... :-) I sold my Accuphase CD player to someone not long ago. All that remains is a ripping CD player on my computer and dbPoweramp, because I still buy CDs. And then gift them. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What sort of quality do people get when they download so-called "Hi Rez"
I remember the days when they would print -in the back of quite a few CDs- whether it was DDD, ADD or AAD. I don't think I ever saw vinyl stating whether it was "ADA" or something like that... :-D But I have to admit my vinyl days were over as soon as CDs came out, and that I digitized my vinyl collection as soon as some home digitization became possible. ...p ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108499 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What sort of quality do people get when they download so-called "Hi Rez"
...I had no idea that digital recording pollution had started as early! I present the following little experiment I have gone for over the years with one of my favorite recordings ever. 24411 One version is a 320k CBR rip from the original CD, the second the HDtracks download, supposedly from the "previously undiscovered, cryogentically-frozen and kept-in-a-vacuum master tape". F__k me if I can ever hear a difference. And I've listened to it on $4k headphones (not mine), spending an utterly unenjoyable hour trying to convince myself I *had* to hear a difference. I've done the same experiment, only comparing a 16/44 and a 24/192 of very well recorded, 2000-ish albums, much to the same result. Maybe *there* I'd be able to detect a difference between the 320 and 16/44 version, but it's not one I'd particularly care for other than for archiving purposes. And I supposedly can still hear up to 17kHz, so it's not like I have deafened myself over the years. And now that it's easy to score $2 CDs in the used market, I've rediscovered the joy of roaming around in a music store on a weekend. Vintage CD stores, who would've thought! :-D +---+ |Filename: bevans.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24411| +---+ ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108499 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What sort of quality do people get when they download so-called "Hi Rez"
ralphpnj wrote: > CD quality but with a much larger file. Awesome summary. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108499 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quick question about DAC "filters"
I haven't read it. But in a perfect world, I'd like this simple feature in a DAC+Preamp, or in an integrated DAC+Amp unit into active speakers: * High quality and configurable (30-40-50-60-etc) frequency divider in the digital domain with both analog and digital *dual* outputs, one for low and one for high domain. Some audiophiles may prefer more, but beyond 3 I never would see the point. * Option for room optimization in both domains. My current main setup [see sig] provides me with the output options, but not with the built-in configurability. I drive my speakers full range, and optimize the sub on the side of it. The system I set up at my SO's place (NAD D7050 integrated amp) allows for total optimization. You can configure the cutover freq. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106979 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is 24bit/44.1kHz high resolution or marketing BS?
Yes 16/44 is plenty, and we deserve more recordings that... uh... deserve it. Based on my reading, even the best human platinum ears can not hear beyond 20/44. Again, in some extreme border cases arguably the quantification error is the issue, and not the sampling frequency (Nyquist nailed that one). But I have not EVER heard of ONE scientifically conducted test that ever remotely indicates any human on the planet would benefit from anything beyond 20/44... and most stuff we get in 16/44 doesn't remotely deserve it, thanks music industry... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
".. One major difference: roon is not free after trial. .." I always thought it a big commercial mistake that SlimDevices gave away the software for free. I for one would have paid for major releases, and I think that would have ultimately made the company more successful long term. Arguably it is the software that is far more valuable... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
... Let me also state, I would so hope that, over the next years, someone picks up a next gen SB development... In my dreams, I envision an SB OLED Touch v2 that offers... - HDMI output to send liner notes to TV - Dual Digital and optical outputs with configurable frequency cutoffs - Built-in but bypassable room correction ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
Apesbrain wrote: > "Correcting" my two listening rooms is the most interesting and > meaningful thing I've recently done with my Squeezebox system. I spent > $75 for a UMIK-1 calibrated microphone and downloaded the free REW > measurement suite. Implemented 3-4 parametric equalizer filters in each > room using SoX and custom-convert.conf. Whole thing took me under an > hour per room. I did listen to a friend's corrected room. I had been there before, and the huge glass surfaces overlooking a very scenic view were not gentle on the presentation. Despite a huge expense, it was tinny and indistinct and ethereally placed. He knew it. He introduction room correction, and the Bill Evans Trio was resurrected... His space is huge and glassy and challenging. I think my room is very optimal, plus I am single and no one can dictate my placement choices :) hence when I experimented, I heard some improvements but also felt staging and layering collapsed, even though some bass became more accurate. I went back and forth and kept the uncorrected, yet diligently placed option. I have no doubt room correction is the one single thing that is imminent in my audio future. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
... Let me also state, I would so hope that, over the next years, someone picks up a next gen SB development... In my dreams, I envision an SB OLED Touch v2 that offers... - HDMI output to send liner notes to TV - Dual Digital and optical outputs with configurable frequency cutoffs - Built-in but bypassable room correction ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
I knew there'd be great replies here. I can't agree more about keeping relying on Amazon, iTunes or Spotify as guardians of my music collection. I have bought video on Amazon outright, only to see it disappear when the studio and Amazon have a spat - often permanently. And did Amazon notify me or reimburse me? Of course not. Active speakers - indeed. Perfect matching is the key... That's one thing I like about Hypex modules - they provide tight control over a wide range of loudspeakers. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
garym wrote: > For example, if I click on the "Miles Ahead" album, it pulls up the > basic info and tracks, etc. Then I click on credits and it gives me all > sorts of info on who played, etc. My pics don't do a good job of > capturing the actual interface, which is full screen, but you get the > idea. And you can click on anything (the bass player for example) and > it will take me to a list of tracks/albums that that person is also > associated with. You can get lost for hours on this stuff! > That is VERY cool. That is a major thing I miss with my library. I spent many hours scanning the album notes so I had as much info as possible, but of course picking the .PDFs is totally outside of LMS - it'd be awesome to be able to get the notes along the active playlist... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Our Music Listening... in 10 years.
Got into a good discussion and fellow music lover over a bottle of Pinot Noir last night, and we talked about how our music listening experiences had changed... and what might happen down the road... Personally - the biggest change to my music listening *ever* was due to the SB product line a bit over 11 or 12 years ago. I went from CD jockey to exclusively listening to digitized music within the time it took me to rip my extensive CD library (it took 2 years, with some mistakes along the way due to wrong assumptions). Initially, I thought I'd use the SB for convenience, but that for my more in-depth listening CDs were irreplaceable because I imagined they'd "sound better"... don't ask me why, old habits are initially hard to break. Looking forward... I imagine a few things may change the way I listen to music... (1) Room correction. I have experimented with it. Not yet sold on existing solutions. Call me old fashioned. Maybe I lucked out with my current room. But I am sure it'll get there and make a huge difference. (2) Music library... main location on one's mobile device. It's kinda striking to see that storage capacity on mobile device has kinda plateau'd around the "magic" 32, 64 and 128 GB options for a few years... probably with the prevalence of 4k video the need for more will finally force mobile device designers to up the ante, and *that* is when people like some of us *could* possibly consider migrating our entire music collection (mine is around 480GB). I know, I know... "But Pablo, your entire collection will reside in the cloud! Companies are migrating to cloud strategies, so it should be good enough for you!". Well, companies have long term storage strategies that make sure a cloud accident can't obliterate their data, and I haven't seen those make it to consumer level media storage yet. Is it a business niche someone should exploit? Probably a disappearing niche. Those of us with music libraries are probably a species in the process of extinction. 99.999% of people will never discover a music universe outside of Spotify. (3) Audio quality breakthrough with UltraHD, 16x times CD quality bla bla: In 10 years I'll still have 2 ears that will still have been shaped by a few million years of human evolution, and I doubt they'll get any better. Naw. But I betcha the usual suspects will try to sell us the stuff. :-D (4) Improvements in electronics and loudspeaker design: Marginal and diminishing returns, as it has been for many years. Same for more exotic material (Shazanium-coated ultra-audial tweeters etc). (5) A better UI for music apps. Please. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
And while I don't subscribe to the theory that resources stand in the way of wider 24/192 acceptance... I agree with those that say that hearing a difference between 16/44 and 24/192 with the exact identical original master source is a futile exercise. And yet, I do own some 24/192 and other hirez recordings. Why? Oh well - why not, if I like the music? :-) It's only a few additional bucks, and it kinda guarantees I shall never have to buy the same music again, in the highly unlikely case some fundamental breakthrough allows me to suddenly discern a clear difference between 16/44 and 24/192. But then again at that point in time the studio will probably magically find a 96/768 master that sounds even better... :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
Other than unnecessary personal vitriol, I wonder about the discussion in performance improvements, and how it impacts music reproduction technology. Here are a few personal opinions: * When even Intel declares Moore's Law as in hiatus, you know semiconductor advances have slowed a fair amount when it comes to some design parameters - but not all of them. I think the major trend there has been the focus on mobility and low power requirements. Hence the race to make personal computers twice as fast by throwing in extra GHz has slowed down a lot. That said - the *huge* benefit of that has been that now we have highly mobile personal devices that allow us to enjoy a degree of music quality anytime-anywhere that was only attainable with very esoteric and highly static gear not that long ago. I recall listening to music on a very good Sony Walkman back in the 80s, and damn, compared to what we have today it was probably garbage. Let's not over-romanticize the audio past. * My own home desktop computer-server is based on 2010 technology. Top of the line Intel stuff back then. I think from 1992 to 2010 I probably upgraded my home PC every 2-3 years or so. I liked to build my own machines. Still do, but truly the reasons to do so these days are not as clear. My 2010 desptop still performs very well. I have changed most peripheral devices (bigger SSD, bigger HD, more RAM, faster graphics) but the core system is the same, and performs very well even with current benchmarks. I *will* build a new machine in the next year or so, but it will not be for performance reasons - multimedia works perfectly well with that I have. And I am not a gamer. 24/192 audio is something that can be served by very, very old CPU and memory tech. You could build a well -performing LMS with pretty much any computer you find in an old box. Performance hasn't been a gatekeeper to audio performance in many, many years. Fact is it is pretty low CPU cycle stuff. * As to networking and bandwidth... I haven't been in an environment where music challenges stuff in a long time. My tablet gets 200M download and 12M upload speeds over wireless in my home. In a few years, your smartphone will support 1G download speeds, call it LTE or 5G. Not that it matters for music, even if Tidal decides to stream everything at 24/192 at that point in time. :-) As to right now, the fact our beloved SB boxen and LMS servers can deal with 24/192 in our homes, with technology that is pretty dated at this point in time, indicates music is not a resource intensive app in this day and age. * And, when it comes to audio nerd gear (I am talking about us here with an old fashioned audio shrine), I think there have been some very significant advances over the years. Fundamentally, a speaker is still put together the same way. I especially think today is an amazing time to put together budget systems, or systems up to $10k or so. The quality you get from those was unattainable 20 years ago unless you threw far more $ at things. Then again, I could probably live with my 1999 vintage Accuphase E306v amplifier for life, Ncore modules be damned. :-) If it wasn't so damn bulky. :-) *Arguably the biggest advance, and one that still hasn't sunk into the old fashioned brains of most audio enthusiasts, is software controlled and DSP based room optimization. Raise your hand if you have one! (Looking around and sees one or two hands). See... we're an old fashioned-bunch. In summary, I think the audio world has changed by leaps and bounds. Some of the early changes were indeed driven by CPU power and storage capacity (my current 475GB music library would have been very daunting in the mid 90s :-)). But I think these days it's been all driven by the capabilities of mobile devices more than anything else. Our audio shrines are pretty old tech, both in what's inside and what's required from the periphery... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
Julf wrote: > Have you seen actual scientific research showing we need more than 16 > bits for *storing* the music? We do need more than 16 for *recording* to > ensure sufficient headroom, but once the recording has been normalized, > that is not an issue. > > I would also love to see pointers to any commercial recordings with a > dynamic range exceeding 16 bits. I can't point to any specific quotes, and it is not particularly important to me to prove I am right in any way. Personally, I think well recorded 16/44.1 stuff is all I need. However I have read stuff that claims no platinum eared human can hear beyond 20/44, hence the DR limitation to them was more important than the bandwidth aspect of it (I have never heard ever of human ears exceeding 20kHz, I know mine don't hear beyond 17kHz, now or 15 years ago). ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
Julf wrote: > And what do you feel is problematic about it? I don't think there is anything problematic about 16/44.1, personally. But the major objection with more scientific backing is that is should be 20 rather than 16. DR stuff with far more valid arguments behind it. I have read far more tests claiming we need 20 bits than we need 96kHz. It seems even Platinum Ears can't pretend to hear beyond 20/48 stuff. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
Julf wrote: > I am happy with that, thanks! :) But... how are "squarewaves of any frequency" relevant to music reproduction? And if you like square waves, why bother transform them to the analog domain? Digital is pretty good at square waves. :-) BTW I find it interesting that so much discussion has focused on the bandwidth needs of music. That's actually pretty straightforward. Arguably the more problematic aspect is the digitization of the sample itself. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
philippe_44 wrote: > As a (very) occasional reader (and even less commenter) of such threads, > I'm afraid that it's hopeless to try to give the correct explanation. > Most people do not understand the fundamental difference between > analogue and digital. As said in another thread, you can chose to > represent your binary information using orange vs apple, black smoke vs > white smoke, any sort of modulated radiowave, light (which is the same) > or any support you want, as long as you use the proper error correction > code (and theory of information give you all the mathematical tools to > chose the right one), this does not change anything. The support/carrier > does not influence the information, where in analogue it does. Indeed. The DAC is about the D in the first iteration... and any signal is the same in D, and the initial conversion to A follows the universally accepted Nyquist rule... so we have a perfect reproduction of the original signal thanks to Nyquist. Q1: Does anyone dispute that? OK. then we move on and send down the A(nalog) of the equation down the chain. OK, here things get chancier. Digital is predictable, analog is harder. Here we get into noise and signal separation and what not. Ugh. Q2: Does anyone dispute the really relevant letter in DAC is the A? And that there, it's not just about the DAC chip, but the entire A subsystem? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?
Mnyb wrote: > Short version. > I believe in digital tranfer methods so much that i dont atribute " > analog characterists " to them ( ie sweeter treble ). > And they work perfectly and transparently with good spec normal cables > nothingfancy needed. > The asyncrounus tranfers merhods and mostly the ethernet protocoll is so > robust that it works fine even with out of spec cables as long as its > fast enogh the Data gets corrected and buffered anyway . > Spdiff with its 1979 origin is somewhat timing sensitive . > Another funny thing spdiff should really use bnc conectors but most > audibrands scrap that because the impedance mismatch you get with RCA > dont rock the boat on these very short distances . > You are aware of the test where someone used a straightened out steel > coat hanger instead of 1m spdiff . It worked just fine All totally correct. We should all be aware there are far more critical applications out there, bit would be unacceptable (which is why one also has correction and error detection codes thrown in). The stuff works, period. And there's absolutely no way the same identical digital frame will sound better in analog because of any characteristic of the digital signal. It just doesn't happen. That said, I still like better-than-basic Toslink cables in my system. I think it was about $100 and simply looks prettier. And no, I never spent a minute comparing it with the old basic Toslink cable. As to Ethernet, yes, I also pick better quality cables, but would never waste money on anything that makes esoteric audio claims. To me it's just about a quality connector so it doesn't break or introduce some weird effect (I have had bad Ethernet cables). I have also at times been told I wasted my money on my DAC (not that it's anything esoteric) because I wouldn't been able to tell the difference compared to a decent $300 DAC. The fact of the matter was that I didn't pick the Benchmark for sound quality - I picked it for future proof input-output choices, lots of them. :-) I replaced a big, hefty $7k CD player I was only using as a DAC with the Benchmark, and never worried for a second about a decrease in sound quality, either. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Chips
edwardthern wrote: > Not one of you have the common decency to start a conversation that > promotes dialogue, rather you attackgrown men none the less. I didn't join the discussion, but the way I read things is that you misread disagreement with a personal attack. In Internet discussions, we have to learn to be told with people vehemently disagreeing and telling us we're utterly wrong. Personally - I am somewhere inbetween. I think the audio hobby is irrational by definition, and we all have our pockets of craziness to define ourselves as "audiophiles" and read this forum. 99% people out there are perfectly happy with their smartphone and the free earbuds that shipped with them. I for one fully enjoy merely visual improvements to my system, and freely admit I enjoy it more if it pleases not only my ears, but also my visual and tactile senses. I don't claim I can hear a difference, but I simply enjoy it more, and psychoacoustics are relevant to the overall experience. I am pretty sure my favorite jazzband sounds better to me in a suave Manhattan cafe than in a Bronx trash disposal site. There's nothing wrong with psychoacoustics. They matter. But scientifically speaking - we should be careful about making claims that an experiment is reproducible. There are tons of audio tests out there that show it all comes down to 50% chance (basically, accident). But I for one have never confused ABC tests with simple musical enjoyment. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106575 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Chips
edwardthern wrote: > > Obviously there are strong feelings about this subject and of course its > been debated for years if not decades or longer. Actually no circuit designer debates it. Check out http://www.esstech.com/files/1414/4095/2154/ES9018S_PB_v1.7_140916.pdf and tell us what does it tell you? Maybe that the chip is not as important as the "A" circuit design in the backend. Your hangup on the AC chip without any attention to the follow-up circuitry indicates you don't understand where the real magic happens ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106575 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Software Updates
edwardthern wrote: > Actually if you read a little closer you might notice that the > updates/improvements were gained from "Single Purpose Audio Computers" > re: Alsa, MPD, Kernel updates required for HW functionality. > . None of that benefits an LMS server, but to each their own approach. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106572 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Software Updates
edwardthern wrote: > Nobody said updates were always 100% foolproof. > > Still, there have been updates to the Linux ARM kernel that are required > to make some of the newer hardware work. For example, with the HiFiBerry > Digi + Pro you will need the latest kernel update in order to get it to > work. > > ALSA had two updates this year and MPD had 7 updates so farin > addition I have updated the ARM Kernel several times this year as well. > Although some 'fear' updates [as you should with Microsoft] the real > purpose is to fix bugs, improve performance and add new > functionalityall of which I have reaped the benefits of without any > problems. > > So if it ain't broke, Improve It!! You only benefit from those updates on machines that see more universal use. If it's your main desktop or laptop, by all means improve it and keep it secure. If it's an isolated, highly specialized machine that runs only *one* function... why bother with updates, unless it presents an unacceptable security risk (if you made it past my firewall, feel free to hack my LMS server all you want, that doesn't worry me), and as to performance, I am perfectly happy with the way it works. If I wasn't, I'd assign another CPU core and more memory to the VM. I do update stuff when I feel it provides some real benefit, as in -for example- easily future-proofing my LMS for another 4 years at least. You'd be surprised how many corporations run even business critical services on utterly obsolete software versions for exactly those reasons... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106572 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Software Updates
edwardthern wrote: > ... > A few hundred years ago I bet someone said the same thing about toilet > paper. If it ain't broke don't fix it, these leaves work just fine!!! > If anything your example just points to the robustness of Linux and LMS. > Which to Linux users is nothing new. I think mistrusting updates is a best practice, especially when you have something that works. People are way too eager to embrace the latest update for no benefit whatsoever. This is true with smartphones, computers... and the LMS ecosystem, no matter what OS it runs on. I ran with Ubuntu 12.04 LMS until earlier this year, running it as a VM, which means I can always migrate the environment anywhere, anytime, as long as VMware decides to keep supporting Ubuntu 12 on their VM Workstation/Player apps. Spotify however eventually became irritatingly temperamental, though, which prompted me to experiment with the latest Ubuntu LMS and a latter version of LMS. It has worked great. But note that even though the LMS Web User IF reminds me constantly there is a later version of 7.9.0 available, I have not bothered to update it, nor do I apply any updates to Ubuntu 16.04. Why would I? All that VM is supposed to do is run LMS, and run it as stable as possible, so I don't mess with it. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106572 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Managing Loudness in a Music Library
drmatt wrote: > Mp3gain *can* also adjust the Id3 tags and leave the audio data alone.. >From what I have observed it merely adds 2 tags MP3GAIN_MINMAX and MP3GAIN_UNDO. According to http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Automatic_Volume_Adjustment, LMS does recognize and act on MP3 tags. I certainly can hear a difference. My problem remains that fact that, with nearly 4,000 albums in my collection, some sort of automatic analysis & correction tool would be nice. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106423 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Managing Loudness in a Music Library
Apesbrain wrote: > Smart Gain has always worked well for me. How are you applying > ReplayGain tags to your files? I run MP3Gain and normalize to a level that doesn't report clipping. I think I have it set up to 91dB. Unless it report clipping at that level. I do dream about an automatically normalized/enforced loudness level across my library. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106423 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Managing Loudness in a Music Library
I was curious if any of you manipulate gain parameters to keep loudness levels even across your music library, or not, and just live with stuff the way it is. Personally, I leave classical music alone. Most of it I have ripped with dbPoweramp[1], and leave it alone. With jazz, I could live with leaving it alone, but I have played around with MP3Gain and some other tools to manage levels across playlists. With popular music like R&B and salsa - it wouldn't be much of a problem if you acquired the CDs in the same decade they were produced, I think. But start mixing things up, and playlists become very uneven[2]. Hence I have used MP3Gain on an album by album basis, although my library (wihich is very large) is quite inconsistent. So I wonder if anyone uses a tool that evens out levels library-wide? How do you handle it? Just curious. ...paul [1] It seems to me that dbPoweramp has upped its output levels with new versions. I have re-ripped some albums, and upon comparing my first rip with the most recent one, there seems to be a loudness increase. I have not dabbled with the advanced DSP parameters in dbPoweramp ever, which I think allow for some output level settings. [2] The particular culprit is: you have a few CDs from a certain artist you bought back in the 80s. Now you discover that Amazon has re-issued some albums from that artist that you missed. You buy them as an MP3 album. The loudness difference between these new ones and the original CD rips will be brutal. That said, Amazon has done a great job of digitizing some hard to find 80s/90s albums. In some cases, they sound (IMHO) markedly better than the original release ADD/DDD CDs, because some of them sounded ugh (and prolly gave digital a bad name), but yeah, the current heavy handed approach to loudness prevails. Hence... how to best manage? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106423 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Devialet Phantom Speakers
I have listened to it. Given the novelty of the design, I was skeptical, but I must admit it sounded great. Not groundbreaking in any way, just clean and articulate (I am not sure about the staging with classical music, seemed a bit diffuse to me). I didn't get to pick any of the music. So I am not against it in any way, but on the other hand it didn't make me reconsider anything, other than the fact I'd have no idea how to set it up at my place. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105563 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter slow to boot - power supply issue?
I have never owned a Transporter. But, and much to my surprise, several threads exist that attribute wireless, remote and other malfunctions - especially on Touches- on failing power supplies. I honestly never realized PS were as likely to age worse than the device itself. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105877 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
My first (and only) Luxman and even the Accuphase E-306v (which I still own but currently don't use) had that "loudness" button. And I can't claim I never used it. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
drmatt wrote: > Well .. yes .. for the parameters of the study. Assuming they get lucky > often enough to beat pure chance. In that case it seems likely that > either they *can* tell the difference in this trial or the trial is > broken. But like all hypotheses, you only need to find -one- person who > can consistently tell the difference and you have disproved the theory > that "no-one can tell the difference".. the debate then moves on to the > technicalia of the test itself > The debate will live forever. I think the standing question is "Do the vast majority of people benefit from HD Audio?" ( to which I have established my own personal answer, but to each their own). I am not a believer in absolute statements, because -as you said- they can be easily proven wrong by a singularity. Hence, any statement that contains "nobody" or "everybody" or "always" will be always met by me with a questioning glance... But the key thing is - I don't think this study set out to find the singular exception to an absolute statement, the goal was to show wider validity of the parting premise - in which case the elimination of those who admit to be unable to tell a difference seems questionable. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
drmatt wrote: > Well, given the aims of the study, this is a legit statistical > technique. It might sound like cherry picking but when the point of the > study is to show only that *some* people can tell it's allowable to > exclude the ones who can't. Clearly if the study attempted to show that > *all* people can tell, this would not be legit. So if 90% of people were to admit they can't hear a difference no matter how hard they try, the best thing is to listen to the 10% who can, and if 6 of them get lucky, we've proven it's possible to tell a difference? :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
Archimago wrote: > Yes. Lots of text :-). > > Let's just lay it on the table and get it done with. The use of the > impulse response to justify FUD is one of the greatest 'controversies' > out there. > > As if we can actually hear the ringing for one. > > As if going through a sharp filter would actually excite tons of ringing > in actual music. > > And as if we should go ooo and over yet another DAC > because the designer programmed some mystical algorithm in his fancy > FPGA! > > Thanks for the tip on the Clapton. So I guess one could pay 30 bucks to > buy a 24/192 file with watermarking versus 10 bucks for a CD which at > best can be differentiated <53% of the time by researchers using > presumably great gear in a good room, with no watermarking to > potentially mar the sound... Hmm m... > > This is just getting worse. And who exclude those who state they can't hear a difference from the study... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnects and Power leads. Snake Oil?
toby10 wrote: > Hydrogen is a horrible fuel source, especially for vehicles. Hydrogen > cars are essentially just electric cars using a different fuel (hydrogen > instead of batteries). The one advantage to hydrogen over batteries is > refueling time. But every other aspect of hydrogen as a vehicle fuel > source is a big negative. Can you say Hindenburg? :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnects and Power leads. Snake Oil?
My supercar analogy was based on the fact that while performance differences can be measured indeed, in day to day driving and with speed limits and horrible drivers out there - it doesn't make a difference, and in many ways is an inferior choice. The same could be argued about cables - differences can indeed be measured, but the human ear can't resolve things the way measuring resistance/capacitance/inductance would. As to electric cars... classic example of to each their own. I know plenty of people with Teslas here in the Bay Area. Except for one, they are all second cars. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnects and Power leads. Snake Oil?
arnyk wrote: > > I've never had that problem, and over the years I've used all sorts of > bottom-of-the-barrel cables including the ones that were in the box with > the new gear I bought. It's all personal choice. Myself, while I don't see the point of cables that cost more than the equipment they are connected to, I also must admit it doesn't *feel* right to attach standard thin black-white-red cables with cheap tin connectors to my little audio shrine. I don't go overboard (my choices are in my sig). I think I spent $700 on speaker cables and never more than $400 on XLR interconnects, and I always try to minimize the amount of gear. That's just a personal philosophy thing. It *feels* better knowing the connections are solid and shielded effectively. The conductivity of the cable is unlikely to make a difference unless someone tries to "fine tune" cable design to introduce (IMHO undesirable) amounts of inductance or capacitance to tune the sound. I am not claiming at all there's any science to my preference for slightly upgraded cables. It just makes me feel better, hence it's money well spent (and it's not like I ruined myself buying it). ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
drmatt wrote: > Though maybe you have a very good DAC? > As my sig shows, I use a Benchmark DAC2 HGC as my reference, fed through the Touch - of course that means that as a rule the 24/192 material is down-sampled a tad. That said, I have also done tests sending files via USB with Jriver Media Center, and couldn't discern a difference, be it through speakers or headphones. I should also note I didn't get the Benchmark because I am convinced it sounds oh-so-much better than other DACs - I got it for convenience because of the feature set and a myriad of input and output options that make it quite versatile. And of course there are far more esoteric audiophile jewelry options than the DAC2, and if that's really the bottleneck... well, blame it on my middle-aged ears (I have done the test and my hearing ends at 17kHz). :-P ...paul ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
I was curious about the paper's definition, and came across this... ".. This can be transformed into an XY test by assuming that correct discrimination is made when 24 bit / 192 kHz was rated higher than 16 bit / 44.1 kHz, and incorrect discrimination if 24 bit / 192 kHz was rated lower than 16 bit / 44.1 kHz. *Results where they are rated equal are ignored*, since there is no way of knowing if participants perceived a difference but simply considered it too small compared to differences between other formats, and hence cannot be categorized. .." Whoa. Really? I think them being rated equal is very significant. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Study finds ...
The key here is if they define "CD Quality" as hi-bitrate MP3 (256k+) or an uncompressed CD. The article doesn't say (perhaps the study does). I can differentiate between the two (although most of the time for relaxed music listening I may not care much about the difference). As to the same recording in 16/44 vs 24/192... nah. Maybe it's because my testing was limited to 3 albums (none of which were originally mastered at 24/192, but rather in analog), but I doubt it, and honestly they sound amazing the way it is. And I just think the obsessions about minimal nuances totally stands in the way of enjoyment, but that's a different matter. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105816 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The return of the Super LP List
Curious - does anyone in here firmly believe vinyl LPs sound better than CDs or a high quality digitized version of the LP at 16/44? For the record, I have an LP player. I like quaint, traditional aspects of the ritual of playing vinyl (or these days, for that matter, CDs - because in my main rig as a rule I don't have either a vinyl or CD player anymore), but as to sound quality... nah. And anyone that argues about the importance of 120db dynamic range in playing hirez digital stuff, but then claims vinyl sounds better, probably needs some prescription for bipolar disorder. :-D As to Casino Royale... wow. Sadly missing is this memorable song sure to test your entire chain https://youtu.be/dP9Wp6QVbsk ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105731 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit versus 24bit versus dynamic range
this forum's ability to religiously and passionately recall each other's audiophile and mensa license over a dispute about 4 bits of headroom -that 99.% of the world's population doesn't give a hoot about- never ceases to entertain me. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit versus 24bit versus dynamic range
the rational consensus i have read is that while a very few people have hearing range that goes beyond 16/44, no human being can possibly resolve beyond 20/44. 44 gives you the best possible range of human hearing as established in innumerable tests, and provided to you by Nyquist. 20bits covers the extreme best possibly case of dynamic hearing capabilities. there are some good tests online for those who want to be honest to themselves. my hearing goes from 35-16.5k, and i can just hear a dynamic range of <16, the 20 is wasted on me. it's the quiet passages that get you with age. and I listen to the simple test (no wide staging no depth stuff) with stellar headphones and a great headphone amplifier. and fail when it comes to the theoretical 20/44 optimal human hearing limit. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A Look at MQA...
RonM wrote: > In general, I can find the cover in acceptable resolution online in a > fraction of the time it takes to scan and process the cover. But yeah, > to everything else. For jazz and classical, I want also the entire liner notes. Those are ot easy to find for most, hence I scan them. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105070 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A Look at MQA...
arnyk wrote: > Open source = no royalty payments. > > Who cares since we know that so-called high resolution audio has no > audible benefits? > > I can't say that I'm against physical media, not with a personal library > in excess of 1,000 discs. On Open Source - many companies make nice profits with it. If you have the credibility, services and consulting are eminently monetize-able. Arguably, if Meridian made MQA open source there'd be less of a debate about it, and more people would take it up wherever it happens to me sense (a narrow focus if you ask me, but I posted that earlier). Because there's cost involved, potential beneficiaries will still run a strict cost-benefit analysis. And some of the benefits ma have nothing to do with the sheer obsession with sound quality - it might be yet another way to control distribution and the overall ecosystem. On HD Audio having no audible benefits... quite a rational and defensible argument. But peace of mind for archiving purposes as storage cost drops down dramatically is also to be considered. I did make a point to acquire HD all time favorites when special offers where available. I don't like to struggle and concentrate on silly stuff when I listen to music, hence I hate blind tests - let other people bother, I'll take their word for it. I have some pretty resolving equipment, but damn me if I *care* to hear a difference. Sometimes, on very familiar and very well recorded favorites, I have thought I could hear "something", hence where I have it I simply listen to the HD version and know anything else is in my head. Done. That said, I think 24/192 is total overkill in any end user's listening environment, and yet why not for albums we totally treasure. Yeah on physical media. I used to have several drawers full of CDs (over 3000) and now they're are stored out of sight. I'll never ever spin CDs or vinyl again when it comes to my main system. Whatever media I get I digitize on the spot, and scan the cover. To me convenience is a key part of listening to music. Getting up to change media... I no longer miss it, nor do I for a second think it sounds any better than the digitized version ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105070 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiostream's "Silent Majority"
i am subscribed to Stereophile, and enjoy it. it is in no way my "bible" in all things audio (not publication is, ever), but the pictures are beautifully taken and the writing is good. of course there is a lot of stuff that makes me raise an eyebrow and disagree, but hey, i take this hobby with some sense of humor. all of us audio aficionados seem crazy to 99% other people anyhow, so it's kinda fun to watch us passionately disagree about shades of craziness. :-D i also kind of enjoy the fact they publish measurements, biased and questionably useful as they sometimes are - and how the published perception and "rankings" have little to do with the measurements in the end, kind of showing how irrational the whole thing is, anyhow. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105254 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software
My music listening is typically based on my looking through folders, and remembering "oh wow totally forgot about this". I also regularly erase many playlists I got bored off and kinda start from scratch. I do have a folder with "Best of" micro-playlists for all my age long favorites, and regularly use the micro-playlists to compile new versions of the old and the new. I haven't come across a piece of software that kinda supports my unpredictably moody music listening habits, and have always founf the problem with playlists and big libraries is one ends up with too many of them. And don't you ever change the drive name for your music. Mine is still called "500G" even though these days it's a 4TB drive. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiostream's "Silent Majority"
is there a reason why it looks like the Stereophile forums? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105254 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good are the analog outputs on Classic & Touch?
I think the Touch has a very good analog out. I basically listen to 2 systems a fair amount - (1) my main shrine with the Benchmark DAC2 acting as a DAC+preamp (2) i set up a system at my girlfriend's with a SB Touch as the DAC. i prefer 1, but the amps are clearly different. and i don't think i'd wither and die if i only had to listen to 2, it is eminently enjoyable and heavens, heaven knows how i would have had to pay for that audio quality 15 years ago... diminishing returns... but rewarding ones. Snapshot: the DAC in the Touch and the SB3 (I lived with the latter for over a year) is plenty good. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104973 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: The Wisdom of Simplicity? Another take on recent Stereophile "As We See It".
I just think for some audiophile aficionados the gear is the journey. They love new toys. And they convince themselves every toy is somehow better than the last somehow. Or not. For entirely subjective reasons most of the time, provided said gear is competently engineered. For other audiophiles, the music is the journey, and the gear the means to reaching it, hence when diminishing returns hit, interest in new gear decreases. I think my mix is 20/80 on those. I like audio bling, but all in all my choices are rational and they last for a while. I'd rather spend money on my wine and motorcycle collection. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104904 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The next 20 years in Audio
SlimChances wrote: > Personally I dislike wearing headphones is that because of "in your head" spatial resolution? that annoys me when i focus on it, but it's easy to forget. earphone comfort is very important to me. the Shure SRH1540s are absolutely stellar when it comes to long term comfort. they have become my fav headphone of all time. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104866 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The next 20 years in Audio
http://tapeop.com/interviews/100/the-future/ makes for a good read. i have to admit i find myself using headphones more often than ever before. i cringe at the thought that finally my trusted 2.0 audio system will become obsolete. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104866 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Newest USB Technology. Trust your ears!
i think my little system is rationally put together as a current music shrine. that said i set up a system at my girlfriend's house that was less than 10% my system's cost, and once i was done i was "damn. this sounds sweet." but we always knew about diminishing returns. it has always been about how much those were worth to you. as to the perceived snake oil... hey it happens everywhere. let people make irrational, passionate choices and enjoy them. 99% of people that buy an Akrapovic exhaust or Remus exhaust won't get an ounce of everyday driving benefit out of it. or anyone that buys a Bugatti Veyron. Or a Lange datograph instead of a swatch. who cares. why does the audio community care about what people's choices are? i seldom see B&W Nautilus owners bragging their stuff kicks everything else into oblivion, but i see Polk owners telling them the Nautilus can't be any better if they blind test it etc. audio is weird. we are utter nerds to the masses, and yet we bicker about a shared passion like there's absolutely no common ground... :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104711 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New AKM 4490 DAC
i have a Benchmark DAC2HGC. for convenience and consolidation of sources. honestly i can't tell the DAC2 from the built-in Touch DAC if i connect the latter direct. it is a pretty good one. the reason for the external DAC is merely flexibility and consolidation. i basically think competently DACs sound pretty darn indistinguishable (except for built-in $1 stuff), but when you build a system there are other considerations at work for me. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104495 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
RonM wrote: > When CDs were young, they were often not very well done. Especially > when recorded digitally with early equipment. For instance, Ry Cooder's > Bop 'Till You Drop was the first major label release that was "all > digital" and it just does not sound very good. It's not hard to imagine > a combination of inadequate recording/mastering/production, along with > early inferior DACs in inexpensive CD players, resulting in a listening > experience inferior to a tried and true (albeit limited) technology like > vinyl. > > Situation is different now. Sy CDs still abound, but it's usually > the result of conscious decisions. And probably no one on this forum > actually has CD players with as poor sound reproduction as we probably > all had in the 80s. early CD players and many early CD recordings (some of those who proudly declared themselves DDD on the back sleeve) were kinda yucky. plus our ears maybe weren't used to all the digital "brightness", oh, and they were 30 years younger too. :-) of course i have some of those CDs, now as flac or MP3, and they still sound utterly horrible (and they were converted correctly, so yes, bit perfect original). so i still experience that "wow this sounds like a 64k MP3 and it's a flac" moment every once in a while when i come across those. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Reformed Audiophile True Confessions
i must say that about the only time i heard a night and day difference after an upgrade was the first time i bought good speakers (very musical 2-ways from long dead German company). they were all of $750 at the time or so. ever since, i think i have made more or less rational decisions - but the increase in sonic quality went by the law of diminishing returns. i also once could have sworn those green pens improved sound quite dramatically, and my fav CDs (in storage) all have that carefully applied green outer and inner edge :-) since my first decent system (Denon 1290 CD player, use Luxman integrated, the inevitable Technics SL1210 turntable (still in storage) and a TEAC 8030 cassette deck i worshiped), i have only upgraded major components 2 times. not bad for a 25 year interest in audiophilia. once when i moved into a big house, and blew a lot of money into a system that made me smile for countless hours for over 14 years, so not a bad return on investment), and then after divorce, when i moved into a *small* place and i had to downsize... and i love the little system i have now for less than a third of the cost of my former system. my only area where i admit total suckerdom and guilt are headphones - be it over the head, or in ear, i have a ton of them. luckily i never blow more than $700 on them, but it does add up, and honestly the first good set i bought still sounds absolutely fantastic. not sure why i do that, but after confession here in audiophiles anonymous i may be on the road to recovery. oh and i also once spend a lot on a stupid cartridge for my turntable that didn't even fit right and sounded indistinguishable (and quite possibly worse) than the standard, $200 Ortofon i had had forever. :-) i have my former high end system in storage, and my attempts at selling the pieces on Audiogon or Ebay show that any dollar we spend in audiophilia is gone, there is nothing like a decent return on investment :-) other than that, i enjoy moderate amounts of irrationality here and there, but when i am happy with something it tends to last forever and i don't muck around with it, even though i stay current on what's new and such. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103238 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Ethernet Cable and Audio...
ralphpnj wrote: > ... Well recorded music is NOT the same thing as good music. a lot of audiophile recordings are actually very sterile and un-engaging performances. sheffield labs - i used their test cd for setup, but their reference recordings are bla. but that's just me. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
ralphpnj wrote: > Lots of cover art can be found just by doing a simple google or bing > image search. > > And thanks for the lovely pdf of the Joe Henderson CD. I have this CD > ripped into my music library but without the booklet and now, thanks to > you, I have a beautiful pdf of the booklet. my pleasure - i shall find a way to share the rest. cover art and booklets are a gateway to find more music you love - by knowing composers, musicians, producers... by reading the cover in a record store i used to find related music, a method that seldom failed... i don't want to outsource that to a music service. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
i started the very arduous process of scanning covers and booklets in high quality, both for CDs and LPs. to this day i am shocked that some people don't complain about a $10 download often not including a PDF. i wonder if it's legal to start a public library of art cover and booklets, or if music companies would come after it. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Now where's that checkbook..
nad, of course, you connect a $4k Ethernet cable to a 2c connector and a $1 Ethernet chip... makes perfect sense :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103103 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
i still have my turntable in storage, because i have about 10 LPs i didn't digitize yet. i wonder if that procrastination was an excuse to simply keep it. ah the old days. mixing friends a tape would take over the hours, from pristinely played LP to compact cassette. it meant something. but listening to LPs was so unwieldly i had tons of mixed tapes. a lot of my listening sessions were cassette recording sessions. but i am in no way missing the ritual. even playing CDs was intrusive. my CDs and my remaining LPs live the exact same fate - they are in storage. for my favorite albums i scanned and PDFd the artwork and booklet, and will sometimes check it out and read as i listen. i have started to buy CDs again, because you can buy many dead cheap used and flac them. then they're put away into a big box i drop off at Rasputin with regularity. my favorite CDs remain in relatively inaccessible storage. maybe i'll digitize the rest of them. but i have become lazy :-) some of them stgarted to appear as torrents, and i see nothing illegal about downloading them because i own the media, after all. :-) the analog ritual - no way, i don't miss any of it. there is absolutely no doubt in my mind CDs always sounded better, even in their worst early days. my turntable was (is) a Technics 1210 with a better arm and needle. i fondly remember my premium Denon 1290 CD player, because it was really good, connected to a used Luxman amp and modded German speakers. that was my main rig for 10 very satisfying years that saw my CD collection grow into the 1000s. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
none of this will make me revive my Technics turntable ever. i was glad when i was digitizing my LP collection. i will never ever spin a record again. i made sure everything was at its best when i digitized - clean the -nearly new- needle, microfiber brush on the record etc etc. never saw the magic in the inconvenient ritual. loved CDs as soon as they came out. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?
Archimago wrote: > Didn't ya hear, N.Y. said 'MP3 sounds like sh*t' > (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/03/11/pono). > as far as i am concerned, he always did. whether as vinyl or early itunes or 48/384 (which i am sure must sound decidedly better than 24/192) :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103034 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?
RonM wrote: > I see there are two releases available on Amazon, 2008 and 1998, both > purporting to be remasterings. Do you have a recommendation? > > I also see that HD Tracks has a 48/24 version for sale, I wonder if that > suffers from the same faults as your 192/24?. > > r. i got the 24/192 on hdtracks indeed. the other one must be the '98 version. funny we're talking bill evans. i am just playing "best of bill evans", and i love it, and i just checked and it's a [gasp] 192k MP3 from my dark early iTunes days :-D to me that shows it's primarily about the performance and the recording, and only marginally whether it's 16/44 or 24/192... 17257 +---+ |Filename: cover_96x96_p.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17257| +---+ ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103034 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?
and the other question is... has listening to a good 16/44 recording ever imposed a limit of my full enjoyment of a great performance? there are several recordings i own in two versions: the first ripped from the original CD i owned (16/44 flac), the second the HDtracks version at 24/192, and in one case i also have a car friendly 320k MP3. (1) Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby. one of the greatest live recordings ever. adore it. but given the limitations imposed by the original recording, i will be damned if i can hear a difference between the 192/24 and the 320k MP3 (let alone the 16/44 flac). i have tried - someone plays the different versions to me. i love them all, but it seems a random act to try to tell them apart. (2) Grover Washington - Winelight. i actually seem to defualt to the 192/24, seems an ounce better, perhaps a better master tape or a little volume boost. (3) John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman - one of my favorite recordings of all time. i prefer the 16/44 rip, the 192/24 seems artificially sharp at worst and pointlessly volume boosted at best, sounding a bit like a DDD CD from 1990AD (shiver). ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103034 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] KEF X300A's and the Squeezebox Radio's output - A good fit?
moreover the KEF X300A seem to have a good built-in DAC, so why pay for something you are not using? it seems to be a patch between components you accidentally own, rather than a system you purposedly design. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103007 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] KEF X300A's and the Squeezebox Radio's output - A good fit?
looking at my Radio i don't seem tpo see any "outs" for anything am i missing something? the radio is a fun thing, my mom (75) uses it and drives it from her ipad. but unlike the Boom there doesn't seem to be a way to drive anything external unless i am missing something big...? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103007 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?
> "Getting multichannel done "right" can be a bit of a challenge of course and for practical reasons, will not be for everyone including soundroom setup, WAF, increased cost, etc... I just wish it was easier without all these bits and pieces I've had to cobble together! well getting stereo right is hard. and some recordings kinda demand you reposition your speakers just for their sake. just with 2 speakers. can you say Keith Jarret with his piano centric recording approach? won't work for almost anything else. but if you use it with the setup that works for most other things you get a piano that's about 20ft wide. i can't even imagine moving around 7 speakers to cater to the whim of the recording. :-) that's all. there are absolutely no recording standards, so i think the more speakers, the more impossible it'll be to get it right. it's bad enough with a large stereo music library. we go for a compromise. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102992 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?
i think it is quite natural that in a forum like this a subtopic develops out of a topic like this. it'd be extremely quiet if that wasn't the usual modus operandi. :-) one thing i am pretty sure about: there was never any intent of flaming. it's been a long time since i have seen on of those round here, and in here there seems to be an overriding camaraderie. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102992 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?
Pascal Hibon wrote: > I'm not interested in multichannel music. I don't care about > multichannel for movies either. > The hassle of the increased number of cables and speakers just doesn't > justify it for me. I prefer a decent stereo system, even for movies. I > find a good quality recording way more important than multichannel > music. The industry seems to have a lot of difficulties of providing > good quality recordings. I would prefer they would focus more on that > part instead of high res and multichannel. my exact same sentiments on the subject matter. i'd rather spend more on fewer components, plus i truly have never been impressed by any multichannel system when it comes to music. note i am not saying there possibly aren't extremely awesome sounding multi-channel systems out there, but i haven't heard one yet. and it seems people need to fool around from movie to movie with settings so something isn't overly boosted, which would annoy the hell out of me. i just change the source and volume. anyone that tried to adjust anything in my system better never make plans to visit me again. :-) and the little system sounds great for all sorts of video entertainment to me, too. i can confidently say i shall never buy a system beyond 2.1. then again, i was once on record saying i'd never ever buy a single piece of audio equipment after buying my dream system in 1999, and yet here i am. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102992 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
i used to listen to a Touch feeding into an Accuphase DP-65v working as a DAC. Now the same Touch feeds into a Benchmark DAC2HGC. they both sound great. in fact the internal DAC of the Touch sound pretty darn good, but i do get less of a noise floor, and an ounce of multi-dimension, with the other DACs. differences are very slight. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transporter with NAV Wheel
interested. where are you selling this? ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102877 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Meridian's MQA - a few thoughts, possible concerns...
philippe_44 wrote: > I have to say that brown squirrels produce less jitter and a much richer > sound damn you, you made me spit out a perfectly fine mouthful of sauvignon blanc.. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102934 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Meridian's MQA - a few thoughts, possible concerns...
we talk about money, and yet how successfully are encoding algorithms when it comes to monetization? even the MP3 inventors gave up on it. i would get the software business motivation, hey, audiophile software, subscription fees... sure. my posts in these very forums are still out there when i said that Slimdevices or Logitech ought to have charged for an LMS subscription license, the value was always more in the server even though the streaming boxes were always great. but how Meridian hopes to establish such a model with MQA is beyond me. no self respecting competitor is going to adopt their stuff for obvious reasons. but with MQA i don't see the mega business opportunity out there. the differentiation is questionable. the partner landscape limited. and audiophiles don't care of it's MQA or DSD or two squirrels doing it in a box as long as it sounds great and looks premium. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102934 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Meridian's MQA - a few thoughts, possible concerns...
when i read about it in Strereophile i quckly moved on. this is stillborn. there are already well established solutions to a problem these guys are too late to address. yeah, right, we need a commercial entity to be declared gatekeeper to audio quality... let's have a wolf herd the sheep while we're at it. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102934 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] From the "You can't make this stuff up" files
shoot someone beat me to audiophile SATA... :-( http://www.hifidelit.com/collections/paul-pang-audio/products/ppa-red-sata-cable ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] From the "You can't make this stuff up" files
some more listening tests i suggest: * different SATA cables for your hard drive * different versions of CPUs on your media server * Different RAM on your media server * different vendors chipsets * onboard versus USB hubs * SSD versus Spinning Disk so many things can make a difference way before you even hit that high end USB cable! to me SSDs sound too digital, the rotating nature of a classic hard drive naturally is able to deliver on a more analogue sound, since it resembles a turntable! wish i could upgrade the reading heads on the hard drive some! i have put a dried avocado pit on a drive and it decisively improved sound. versus the SSD and pitless HD i got an extra analogue dimension. maybe the ants helped, too. i have an upcoming review on different eSATA cables, suffice to say i have come up with my own audiophile line of cables to address this flawed element where digital audiophiles still fall prey to the pitfalls of cheap standard cables! ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh-oh, the ethernet/USB cable dispute all over again ...
excellent points made in this thread. getting the bit stream perfectly from A -> B is not the issue. it is always the finicky analog part that is problematic. and there is more analog in electronics that people realize, and it is treacherous. people should know that, with analog designs, sometimes -and despite super-expensive, datacenter-churning design modeling tools, even top chip designers can't be sure the chips will work until the first samples come back from the fab. it has killed many a startup company. analog is treacherous, and the poison is any sort of signal contamination, which ought to make any audio aficionado listen up :-) the signal path is seldom just A->B, that's why feedback is introduced on purpose, to control and clean stuff up. i do have an MSEE but i haven't designed anything in over 15 years, my communication skills with customers lured me over to the sales and marketing side of things. :-) now none of this means i believe in mumbo jumbo. the cable connection from audio component to audio component has nothing to do with the complexity if circuit design i talk about above. basically i just look for decent shielding and a solid connection, and that's it. if i hear a difference between cables my first step in identifying the cause is to slap myself, once or twice, real hard. :-) and USB cables... phhht. unless you have a cable that turns itself into some RFI antenna and violates any standard published by IEEE, i don't think so. it's a very solid interface (albeit not designed for audio, but anything running at several hundred Megabit per sec doesn't have to be, if it's used to transport audio and video in systems that set corporate customers back several hundred k$ it is safe to assume it works quite solidly). we probably all have heard hum, we have heard static hiss, and we have seen things get better as we change something about cabling and/or power (often synonymous). but that typically means there is a *flaw* somewhere in the system. could be a *broken* cable. could be something not connected in the cleanest, smartest way. could be your cat likes to secretly chew up your $5k Nordost cable. i think it is great to be "cable aware" and strive for good quality connections, but before i buy a $5k cable to upgrade my system you better belive i'd spend the month for an upgrade to a real *active* component. the more *passive* and thereby transparent a cable is, the better. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh-oh, the ethernet/USB cable dispute all over again ...
i agree with you. totally. i am not sure why in this day and age we still think writers ought to be subject experts. pretty much every opinion article in the wall street journal betrays the fact every publication had an agenda these days... hey stopped making money with subscriptions a while ago, now advertisers and donors call the shots. audio publications have no more credibility than our very own exchange in here... and i personally know who i'd rather listen to. personally - i will stay subscribed to stereophile, even though (or because?) i sometime vehemently disagree with what they write, but i think they honestly try, and disagreement is natural when people are passionate about anything. in fact they tend to hate each others' guts more when they marginally disagree about something important to both them and their positions are just inches apart, than when they diametrically oppose each other in such a radical dimension that their paths never even cross in life... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
