Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I am not sure your source of the m4a files is or what your music player is and can handle, I assume you are playing both files on the same server. I have done a bit of reading, and don't think that there is an easy answer. m4a is a container which can handle ALAC (lossless) and AAC (compressed) music. The two mode in AAC being LC & HE. With HE being a later more complex form of compression. https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/18b0yg/aac_vs_heaac_what_is_the_difference_which_should/ in the Inguz custom.conf this transcoding used will depend on player capabilities. Essentially if it can handle flac the output will be 24 bit flac, if not you get 16 bit wav. Assuming the player can handle flac the line will look like this. [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id "xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - The first part of this line "[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$" converts the inbound file format to wav format for Inguz to process. So The additional settings for faad may not be able to handle AAC HE formatting or the faad executable itself may be the problem. I also note that you are using C3PO plugin, which also is used to help setup transcoding. In my experience using this in conjunction with Inguz does not work well and you end up with unpredictable results. I understand that custom.conf get loaded before the main conf, and I think C3PO will potentially compete with Inguz settings. Given that C3PO gives multiple options to convert a file, I think what is happening is that the server will pick the easiest one for the file type and use that. So my suggestion would be to disable C3PO for the player in question and retry that. I will have a look at the switches for FAAD and see if there is a one-size fits all, but I barely have any apple music so it is not something I want to spend a lot of time on. If you are able to identify a revised command for FAAD I can certainly look at incorporating it. foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
The Inguz plugin script probably does not generate the mappings in the custom.conf file. I am psyching myself up to doing a re-write of this script and can probably address missing mappings as part of that. I am a bit of a novice with Perl and the LMS plugin structure is pretty complex and I only dip into it now and then, hence it takes me an age to get anything done :( , so don't hold your breath. foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
artatgray wrote: > Both types play fine now. The HE-AAC files just don't get a tokenized > command with InguzEQ.exe in it, and AAC LC files do even though they > both share the *.m4a file extension. Anyway, heres a 500 line log in pdf with the tokenized commands. The Beyondjazz track is the HE-AAC one: +---+ |Filename: 192.168.68.56_9000_server.log_lines=500#bottom.pdf | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39011| +---+ Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Apesbrain wrote: > Do both types of files play when InguzEQ not installed? Both types play fine now. The HE-AAC files just don't get a tokenized command with InguzEQ.exe in it, and AAC LC files do even though they both share the *.m4a file extension. Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
artatgray wrote: > The latter have no problem being passed through the InguzEQ pipeline on > the way to transcoding. However, the former does not. Do both types of files play when InguzEQ not installed? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Hello, I've a number of m4a files. Some are encoded as HE-AAC SBR and others as AAC LC. However, they all share the same file extension, that being *. m4a. The latter have no problem being passed through the InguzEQ pipeline on the way to transcoding. However, the former does not. It's especially perplexing since they all share the same file extension as I've mentioned already. What information does anyone need to help me resolve the issue? Thanks in advance. Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Hello, I have a number of *.m4a files. The lower bitrate ones are encoded as HE-ACC SBR, where as the others are AAC LC. The issue I'm having is I can't get the former into the InguzEQ pipeline for processing. The AAC LC ones are processed as I require, though, and they're all using the *.m4a extension. I've verified this in the log. It's perplexing. What information do you need from me to help diagnost the problem? Thanks in advance... 😎 Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
artatgray wrote: > Hi all, > > I've seeing the following in the log for InguzEQ, its logging level I've > set to "Debug: > > (261) InguzEQ: jiveTopMenu > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5525] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > 0=Bass > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5526] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > 1=Treble > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5528] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > F=Flatness > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5529] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > L=Quietness > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5530] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > B=Balance > [22-10-11 05:27:19.5531] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: > W=Width > > > What I'm concerned about is the Treble value set to "1" when Treble > isn't an option on the control panel. > > What gives? > > Thanks in advance. I think you asked this question in another thread. This logging relates to the Menu Display on JIVE and the numbering is a counter for the frequency being displayed. There are some default settings for 2 and 3 channel equalisers to set them to bass/treble or bass/mid/treble. It has nothing to do with the gain settings. foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Hi all, I've seeing the following in the log for InguzEQ, its logging level I've set to "Debug: (261) InguzEQ: jiveTopMenu [22-10-11 05:27:19.5525] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: 0=Bass [22-10-11 05:27:19.5526] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: 1=Treble [22-10-11 05:27:19.5528] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: F=Flatness [22-10-11 05:27:19.5529] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: L=Quietness [22-10-11 05:27:19.5530] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: B=Balance [22-10-11 05:27:19.5531] Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin::debug (261) InguzEQ: W=Width What I'm concerned about is the Treble value set to "1" when Treble isn't an option on the control panel. What gives? Thanks in advance. Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
artatgray wrote: > > Because the EQ adjustments are subtle, I need a log to verify that > InguzEQ is doing its thing properly. > > How would I go about producing it? > I realise this is a somewhat flippant comment, but it has to be said: If the EQ is subtle enough that you can't tell by listening, do you really need to know? And in that case do you really need DRC? Until recently: Transporter -> ATC SCM100A, now sold :-( House move forced change to: piCorePlayer(RPi2/HiFiBerry DIGI2 Pro) -> Meridian 218 -> Meridian M6 cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
artatgray wrote: > How would I go about producing it? Inguz EQ produces a log at "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\log.txt" in Windows. It will show you what is happening by track. Also note whether CLIPPING+ is present in which case you'll need to reduce gain in "C:\Program Files\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\InguzDSP.exe.config". Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Hi all, I've got the revised InguzEQ installed and apparently activated. I generated an impulse response file based upon my desired target EQ curve per the documented requirements (32 float wav) in REW. Because the EQ adjustments are subtle, I need a log to verify that InguzEQ is doing its thing properly. How would I go about producing it? Thanks in advance, Bill Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
JonSqueeze wrote: > > What do I do with: InguzReskin_v0.02.zip Unzip the file and I think the instructions are included. They are also in the thread I linked. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I changed to: 9.33. What do I do with: InguzReskin_v0.02.zip? Thanks! JonSqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
JonSqueeze wrote: > I'm having troubles getting InguzEQ to work. The EQ plugin is not > selectable "not compatible with this version of LMS". LMS version is 8.3 You may need to manually edit the INSTALL.XML file. The MAXVERSION should say: Code: * Be sure when you save it to keep the XML file extension. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Apesbrain wrote: > I can confirm Inguz is working with LMS 8.3.0 on Windows 7 x86 server; > this on latest Community Firmware. If you are using Material Skin, go > into "Settings" (CTRL+G) and enable display of the "Extras" menu. > > [image: https://i.imgur.com/RjWxOZb.jpg] I'm having troubles getting InguzEQ to work. The EQ plugin is enabled and "Extras" menu is displayed but InguzEQ is not shown. LMS version is 8.2.1. JonSqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I can confirm Inguz is working with LMS 8.3.0 on Windows 7 x86 server. If you are using Material Skin, go into "Settings" (CTRL+G) and enable display of the "Extras" menu. [image: https://i.imgur.com/RjWxOZb.jpg] Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Hi I am trying to get Inguz working with my Squeezebox. I just want to see what difference DRC might make. I know it is no longer supported, and have gleaned much information regarding modifications etc. that need to be applied when updating LMS. I did manage to get it installed using Squeezebox Firmware 7.8.0_r16754 and LMS 8.2.0 but found I had a problem with the volume output level. I corrected this by uninstalling LMS, then reinstalling 7.7.6, updating to 8.2.0. via each release, but what I have found is that the 'Extras' folder is no longer displayed. Back to using LMS 7.7.6 from a fresh install and there is still no 'Extras' folder. Where should the default 'Extras' location be? Is it within another folder? How do I access it? Is there a preferred firmware LMS version I should be using? Logitech state that you cannot downgrade the Squeezebox firmware and do not support previous version downloads. Regards and thanks Annie Body's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72043 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
After a lot of reading through these forums, and finally working out how
to get C3PO working I was able to get Qobuz running through Inguz.
Qobuz streams in flac, and I found that when I changed the file types
for flac to stop LMS transcoding to mp3 or PCM then no music played
C3PO has a handy feature which allows you to see the command last run
for trancoding a song. This allows you to definitively confirm that the
setup is working and Maroc had posted a config to convert from Qobuz to
DSD. I am not using DSD - but in the post marcoc1712 indicated that the
flac settings for Qobuz needed to be different to regular file streams.
I ended up finding this entry in the Inguz Plugin.pm perl script. the
first 3 lines are the original command (starting flc flc*..) I commented
out the client parameter to stop the command being applied to any
player. The second command (also starting flc flc *) is the command for
trancoding and piping flac to Inguz.
flc flc * CommentedOut
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id "CommentedOut"
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
flc flc * $CLIENTID$
# FRI
[flac] -dcs --totally-silent $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id
"$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
I also found the equivalent entries in the custom-convert.conf file also
located in the Inguz plugin folder. The time you need to replace both
$CLIENTID statements with the PlayerID. You may need to repeat on the
server cache too. The entry will look like this
flc flc * 84:39:be:67:5c:ea
# FRI
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id
"84:39:be:67:5c:ea" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
So this definitely works, but there is a downside. The flac streams are
no longer interactive. You can play and pause, but if you try and click
on the playing progress bar to move further down a track then the player
simply moves onto the next track ( I like exploring new music through
auto-plalylists so often find boring/annoying music and want to see if
it gets better).
So I may need to do further tests to see if I can fix this.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I have recently signed up for Qobuz and have it working through LMS. I have noticed that the streams do not get touched by Inguz. URL: qobuz://6276749.flac I have set the stream to run proxied rather than direct. But this does not make any difference. I also have volume reduction for remote streams set to -8. Can anyone advise what I might need to change? foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I can't answer that one, as I have been running Sqeezelite on my Home PC and using the Inguz for Correction while on my work laptop (they share a monitor) I must admit , because of the delay in the filter kicking in, I am often unsure whether the filter has been picked up. It is much simpler with Equalizer APO and Peace UI, but I can't switch that remotely. foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
foxesden wrote: > Yes it is in program data. So what do you mean that the settings don't > stick? That they no longer appear on the UI or that the player doesn't > pick them up? Exactly, the player doesn't pick them up after a server restart. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Yes it is in program data. So what do you mean that the settings don't stick? That they no longer appear on the UI or that the player doesn't pick them up? foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
foxesden wrote: > I am no expert, but I have been playing around with Inguz lately and the > eq settings are stored in the Settings folder with file names ending in > .conf. Thanks. I've tried editing that file, but the changes don't "stick". You're talking about the settings files in [%PROGRAMDATA%\InguzEQ\Settings], right? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I am no expert, but I have been playing around with Inguz lately and the eq settings are stored in the Settings folder with file names ending in .conf. I have used notepad++ to edit the settings. e.g. Here is a manual eq for my iLoud desktop monitors. I am still working this out myself, but hope it helps 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.4 -1.2 -0.8 -0.4 0 0 -0.2 0 0 0 0 0 -0.8 -4 -1.2 0 0 0 0 0 -1.5 -1.6 -2.8 -0.4 0 10 foxesden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
If possible, which config file do I edit to change the EQ center frequencies? Thanks. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Allanto posted - https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111589-LMS-8-0-0-Questions&p=967756&viewfull=1#post967756 Allanto wrote: > Hi All, > > Not sure if this is the right thread, but it's related to LMS8. > > If anyone is using Inguz EQ, and is upgrading to LMS8, you will probably > see that Inguz EQ gives the following Error in the "Plugins" settings > > Inactive Plugins > EQ > Plugin is incompatible with this version of > Logitech Media Server. Please update > > To resolve this do the following:- > 1. Edit the file ...\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\install.xml, > using something like notepad. > 2. Change the entry *7.** to > *8.** > 3. Save the file, and then go back to the plugins setting and enable > Inguz EQ > 4. Restart LMS and EQ should now be enabled. On a vortexbox, the path is /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ . A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Internet Explorer & Silverlight The Inguz browser interface is only functional with Internet Explorer and with Silverlight installed on the PC. If Silverlight is installed and if there is an error message when accessing the Inguz options in Internet Explorer - check whether Silverlight is enabled in Internet Explorer. Within IE, press Alt on the keyboard to reveal the menu bar with the Tools option. Click on Tools Select Toolbars and Extensions "Show" will initially show "Currently loaded add-ons". Silverlight might not show up there Change the "Show" to "All add-ons" Scroll down to Silverlight and check whether it is enabled - change if necessary. On my newly upgraded to W10 system I got the silverlight error message even though, when I checked, Silverlight was enabled. However, the process of merely checking (as above) suddenly enabled Inguz to work in Internet Explorer and it still worked after rebooting and re-opening IE. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
firedog wrote: > Just before I saw this post, I decided to remove/uninstall inguz and > re-install. Before the re-install I also updated from LMS 7.91 to 7.92. > It took me a couple of tries for the plugin to be accepted, but when it > was all installed I did notice that all 3 of those files were there - > and they had not been before. > It does seem to be working now. > ... > BTW, I am getting some CLIPPING notices in the log. How do I adjust the > gain? I hope I don't need the Silverlight for that, because it isn't > working. Glad that it is now working. I think that the InguzDSP.exe, InguzDSP.exe.config, DSPUtil.dll files must have been originally been placed in the wrong folder. It would be a good idea to check whether any of those are still present in the folder they were originally copied to and delete them. Apesbrain has given details of how to adjust the gain. The file can be edited in, say, Notepad. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Gain can be adjusted here: C:\Program Files\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\InguzDSP.exe.config Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
JohnB wrote: > Just a thought - can you please confirm that the files > > InguzDSP.exe > InguzDSP.exe.config > DSPUtil.dll > > are all in the folder: "C:\Program Files > (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" > > together with sox.exe (, etc) Hi JohnB- Thanks again. Just before I saw this post, I decided to remove/uninstall inguz and re-install. Before the re-install I also updated from LMS 7.91 to 7.92. It took me a couple of tries for the plugin to be accepted, but when it was all installed I did notice that all 3 of those files were there - and they had not been before. It does seem to be working now. I purposely choose a 48k filter file in extras, as I knew almost any thing I played would need to be resampled. And as far as I can see in this log, it's working: 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 1632931 samples, 154779.5504 ms (291.0876 init), 0.239 * realtime, peak -4.7238 dBfs 20200129012112: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav, matrix (null) 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Can't use Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav: its sample rate is 48000 not 44100 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Using resampled version Temp\44100_0026B57238_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav instead 20200129012112: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200129012113: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200129012122: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200129012122: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 1639075 samples, 9996.2886 ms (214.9298 init), 3.7014 * realtime, peak -4.7238 dBfs 20200129012122: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav, matrix (null) 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Can't use Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav: its sample rate is 48000 not 96000 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Using resampled version Temp\96000_0026B57238_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav instead 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200129012123: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 24/96000 PCM => 24/96000 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 2220707 samples, 8567.5556 ms (281.9226 init), 2.6845 * realtime, peak -1.1036 dBfs 20200129012131: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav, matrix (null) 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Can't use Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav: its sample rate is 48000 not 44100 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Using resampled version Temp\44100_0026B57238_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav instead 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200129012131: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 1927843 samples, 4942.4776 ms (229.7122 init), 8.7001 * realtime, peak -14.8925 dBfs 20200129012136: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav, matrix (null) 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Can't use Impulses\T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav: its sample rate is 48000 not 44100 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Using resampled version Temp\44100_0026B57238_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012048.wav instead 20200129012136: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200129012137: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Just a thought - can you please confirm that the files InguzDSP.exe InguzDSP.exe.config DSPUtil.dll are all in the folder: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" together with sox.exe (, etc) Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I need to think about this. Which version of LMS are you using? In the meantime I will update my W10 system with the latest LMS and retest my system to see whether I can replicate the problem. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Thanks again. My Sox.exe is in the same place as yours. So the question is, why is Inguz looking for it in the wrong place? And how do I "fix" that? I also followed your other advice about deleting files and restsrting LMS and the Touch. Same results as you saw above. Whenever the samplerates of thr filter and the playback file don't match, Sox isn't found. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
firedog, I've just looked at the code for InguzDSP. It looks as though, on your PC, it couldn't fine sox.exe in the location it was expecting to find it. In my W10 system sox.exe is in folder: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" Can you check whether sox.exe is there on your Windows machine. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
firedog wrote: > Okay, above I wasn't getting playback but now I am. But I still don't > think the RC is working properly. Question: I have 6 correction filters, > one for each common sample rate: 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4 and 192. In > the "EXTRA" settings of the Touch, it seems only to allow me to use one > filter. Does, Ignuz not know how to interpolate the filters for each > sample rate? How do I do correction for playback files with different > sample rates if I can only choose one of the filters? You can only choose one filter to be active at any time. If the FIR filter has the same sampling rate as the file being played it will be used. If the filter has a different sampling rate then Inguz will attempt to resample the filter to the sampling rate of the file and save the resampled filter in the folder C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\ If it can't resample the filter then Inguz can't process the music file, but it should still play. firedog wrote: > Here's the log: > 20200128191453: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav > -wavo -d 24 > 20200128191454: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB > 20200128191454: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse Impulses\T-flat F-Default > M-hogtalare 27012096.wav, matrix (null) > 20200128191454: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat > 20200128191454: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 24/96000 PCM => 24/96000 PCM > TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB > 20200128191522: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being > closed > 20200128191522: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 1987235 samples, 28734.6157 ms > (203.1101 init), 0.696 * realtime, peak -4.3525 dBfs > That, the first bit of the "second" log, looks right In the following section you are playing a 44.1kHz file, still using the 96kHz filter. Inguz first checks whether it has previously created a resampled file, but there is no resampled file present. So it attempts to resample the filter file using sox. BUT for some strange reason it hasn't picked up on the sox path 20200128191523: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Trying sox "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\RE00B9A7FE0A.wav" "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\44100_0038F87BF0_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012096.wav" rate -v -I 44100 Should be 20200128191523: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Trying *"C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\sox.exe"* "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\RE00B9A7FE0A.wav" "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\44100_0038F87BF0_Impulses_T-flat F-Default M-hogtalare 27012096.wav" rate -v -I 44100 I'm not sure why that has happened but Inguz needs LMS to be restarted a few times for it to be fully operational. So I suggest you: Stop LMS Delete the contents of C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Temp\ Restart the Touch Restart LMS Let me know what happens (I'll come back to you on Internet Explorer - it might be that Silverlight isn't enabled in its settings.) Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
JohnB wrote: > You say you have loaded the FIR files into your touch. > > Are you running LMS on your Touch, rather than on a separate PC, etc? If > so you will not be able use the Inguz plugin - the Touch just doesn't > have the processing power. No. Sorry for not being clear. I've got a pretty powerful Windows server with LMS running on it. When I said I loaded the files onto the Touch, I meant I went into Extras>EQ>Room Correction and picked one of the correction filters that show up there - the ones loaded into C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Impulses Thanks GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
You say you have loaded the FIR files into your touch. Are you running LMS on your Touch, rather than on a separate PC, etc? If so you will not be able use the Inguz plugin - the Touch just doesn't have the processing power. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Thanks for your help. I made progress. I have convolution files I made in Audiolense. They supposedly are 32 bit float, and are wav files. I loaded them into my Touch, but can't get playback. Here's the log output showing the error, I'd appreciate it if one of you can tell me what this means and how to fix it. 20200128134530: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200128134530: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse (null), matrix (null) 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 578211 samples, 468.7338 ms (78.1112 init), 27.7343 * realtime, peak -10.1932 dBfs 20200128134531: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200128134531: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200128134532: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse (null), matrix (null) 20200128134532: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200128134532: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200128134551: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200128134551: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 2718371 samples, 19409.1153 ms (78.1237 init), 3.1429 * realtime, peak -26.0895 dBfs 20200128134551: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200128134551: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200128134551: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse (null), matrix (null) 20200128134551: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200128134552: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200128134639: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200128134639: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 3664547 samples, 47862.4218 ms (78.1093 init), 1.7341 * realtime, peak -7.2698 dBfs 20200128134640: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf -wav -wavo -d 24 20200128134640: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Gain -16 dB 20200128134640: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Impulse (null), matrix (null) 20200128134640: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf EQ flat 20200128134640: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20200128155835: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf Write fault 232: The pipe is being closed 20200128155835: b8:27:eb:3a:b6:bf 3764899 samples, 7915069.2555 ms (62.4987 init), 0.0107 * realtime, peak -11.3439 dBfs 20200128165944: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) 20200128165944: -id must be specified. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
firedog, Apesbrain has already covered much of this but The Inguz browser interface is only functional with Internet Explorer (partly because only Internet Explorer supports Silverlight). Silverlight needs to be installed on the same PC as the browser. If you already have FIR filter files, for Inguz these should be 32bit wave files and the files should be copied to folders: Windows: C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Impulses\ Ubuntu: /usr/share/InguzEQ/Impulses/ - Mine are set to Owner squeezeboxserver:nogroup, Permissions: 777 If you want to set up equalization, this can be done either using the browser interface or via iPeng on an iPad or Orange Squeeze, Squeeze Commander. Let us know how you get on. Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
firedog wrote: > I do have Silverlight installed on the LMS server. What's missing? > > Plus: How do I add my RC convolution filters? If I go to my Touch > interface to Extras>EQ>DRC the only option that appears in "none". > > Thanks The Silverlight thing is very unpredictable. I don't depend on it, but instead access EQ via mobile app: Orange Squeeze or Squeeze Commander. You can designate your filter file in the app or on your Touch under "Extras > EQ > Settings > Room Correction". The file first needs to be on the server in the "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Impulses" folder if Windows. May also need a server restart to see it. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Just installed this. When I go to plugins>EQ>settings I get "Cannot initialize Silverlight: createSilverlightControl is not defined" I do have Silverlight installed on the LMS server. What's missing? Plus: How do I add my RC convolution filters? Thanks GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Bricasti M5 network player>Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Interesting finding: Since updating my PC from Win 7 to Win 10, I can now see and control Inguz settings in Internet Explorer (11.535.18362.0 x64). Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
A couple of things to look at first: You say that Inguz stopped working about a week ago. Were there any changes to your PC or LMS that you did around that time? Inguz needs lame to be installed for Inguz to work with mp3 files, so please check that lame is installed for LMS. In Windows 7 lame.exe should be in the folder "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin". Allo Digione Signature (+LiFePo Batteries), Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
JohnB wrote: > Well, I've confirmed your findings. Thanks for trying it yourself. I solved the problem the "brute force" way: converted all my one-channel FLAC to "dual-mono" 2-channel. The files are no larger so I guess FLAC must record this using a flag rather than storing two identical channels. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Well, I've confirmed your findings. On a test with pick noise the mono single channel was approx 8 or 9dB quieter. I would guess that it is a bug but that doesn't get us much further. Sorry I don't have a resolution. Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Odd. I'll do some tests later today. Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Have been using Inguz for a few days now and have discovered that mono (one-channel) tracks play back greatly reduced in volume. If I convert these tracks to "dual-mono", i.e. two-channels both the same, then normal volume is restored. Any idea on how to get around this, or is it just part of what Inguz does? Thanks. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Silverlight is installed and enabled. I found easiest way to adjust settings is to edit the target player's config file. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Sorry, I have no idea whether Inguz interferes with ReplayGain. I would guess not but the only way to find out is to see what happens. Yes, it is a tedious to change Balance, Equalization etc with a tablet/smartphone app - partly because the settings have increments of 0.1 (set in index.htlm). It would be a good idea to see why the Inguz web interface doesn't work on your IE. You might be right that it is a x86/x64 thing but: I would open IE Press Alt Select Tools Select "Manage Addons" Change "Currently Loaded Add-ons" to "All add-ons" (bottom of the LH panel) Scroll down to "Microsoft Corporation" If "Microsoft Silverlight" isn't present in the list it is likely that it isn't installed on your computer. (The installation file can be downloaded from Microsoft.) If "Microsoft Silverlight" is present in the list it should be set to "Enabled" As I said, I mainly use iPeng on an iPad to control LMS (including Inguz) and it works pretty well - but there are occasions when it is convenient to use the web interface for Inguz. (By the way, when I want to disable Inguz I do so by disabling the Inguz options in the Filetypes.) Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Thanks again for your help. Between your replies and calmly reading the manual, I have a better understanding of what's going on. I've set the Gain to -10dB and that seems a good balance between the volume being too low in my system and seeing excessive clipping. The Silverlight problem may be a x64/x86 thing; instead I can access settings via my Squeezebox phone apps (Squeeze Commander and Orange Squeeze). What I found initially confusing is that you can only see a limited range of adjustment (for Balance and Width, for example). If you wish to go beyond this range, you need to select the most extreme value visible then "Back & Re-select" and additional range options will appear beyond the extreme you selected. Setting Balance to "2" (left down 1dB/right up 1dB) took several of these back-and-forth iterations to finally see the radio button for the setting I wanted. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
As far as I know, sox is only used for Digital Room Correction and even then it is only used to resample the selected FIR impulse file to the sampling rate of the music being played, if they differ. (The impulse file determines the DRC to be applied). There is an entry in log.txt when sox is used in that way. All the processing for balance, width, equalization, DRC, etc, etc is done by InguzDSP.exe and DSPUtil.dll. The balance/width settings aren't written to the log.txt file. (Looking at the source code, I suppose it would be possible to amend it to do that but I am reluctant to mess with something that currently works OK). For information: a balance setting of, say, +6 adjusts the left channel by -3dB and the right channel by +3dB (hence the need to keep an eye on the log.txt and gain setting with regard to clipping). Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I'm not sure, but I think it's working now. I've immediate interest in the Balance and Width functions. I may use the DRC feature in the future. Is there a way to confirm this processing is enabled? A log or configuration file that shows the SoX commands being applied? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I've just tested the Balance option on my W7 setup and it seems to work fine. BUT Changes to the Inguz settings don't take effect in "real time", whilst a track is playing. If you stop the track and then start it again the changes should take effect. Please let me know if this helps. In general, it seems overkill to employ Inguz DSP in order to correct a balance problem - isn't it possible to move the speakers or change the listening position? Gain As you have discovered there is a "gain" setting in "InguzDSP.exe.config" (W7 location: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\InguzDSP.exe.config"). This is set to -16dB by default in order to avoid clipping caused by the InguzDSP processing. Do check the Inguz log file (W7 location: "C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\log.txt"). The peak levels are given and "CLIPPING" warnings are shown. If the peak levels (shown in the log.txt file) are consistently well below "0" one can edit the gain setting in "InguzDSP.exe.config" and then recheck. Of course, different tracks will show different peak levels. Some further information about the log.txt and InguzDSP.exe.conf files are given in the "Installation on Windows" and "Inguz Documentation" pdf files repectively. Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I haven't tested the Balance option but will do so later today. (I only use Inguz for Digital Room Correction and other than that I've only tested the equalizer option.) Sadly, the only windows browser that supports Inguz is Internet Explorer. For Inguz to be used in other browsers the user interface would have to be rewritten. I mainly control Inguz with iPeng on an iPad, though that would be laborious for setting, say, the equalizer. Are there any other functions you want to use, apart from Balance? Will get back to you later today. Touch, Metrum Jade, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
The range of balance control available to me is +/- 0.4dB. How can I make that wider? Thanks. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
LINKS TO INDIVIDUAL UPDATED FILES TO USE WITH EXISTING INSTALLS: Plugin.pm and custom-types.conf: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77084-RC-(Inguz-etc-)&p=928575&viewfull=1#post928575 Index.html: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77084-RC-(Inguz-etc-)&p=928762&viewfull=1#post928762 InguzDSP.exe.config: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77084-RC-(Inguz-etc-)&p=928847&viewfull=1#post928847 Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
UPDATED INSTALL FILES FOR UBUNTU - USING SCRIPT FILES TO AID THE PROCESS (QUICKER). The two script files are in the "Two_Install_Scripts.zip", which will need to be unzipped to the same directory that InquzEQ.zip and InguzDSP_Ubuntu.zip are in (Do NOT unzip InguzEQ.zip or InguzDSP_Ubuntu.zip - that will happen as part of the installation process.) It is also a very good idea indeed to download the full "Installation on Ubuntu" from the previous post - so you can see what the script files are doing. +---+ |Filename: Two_Install_Scripts.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26327| +---+ Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Updated Install Files for Ubuntu - using step by step process (as per original install guidelines: +---+ |Filename: InguzDSP_Ubuntu.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26323| +---+ Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
On Ubuntu the exe files are supported by mono - that's why it needs mono installed for Inguz to run. Let me know how you get on. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Ubuntu, nice. With all this exe-stuff I wasn't too sure ... I'll try the installation on my 18.04 LMS :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
I've collated the Inguz resources I could find onto a Box.com shared folder. (Thank you bobertuk, for your help.) This includes: - Documentation (in pdf files) - Updated installation files and instructions for Windows - Updated installation files and instructions for Ubuntu - The individual updated Inguz files, previously posted to the "RC (Inguz etc.)" thread. The updated installation files incorporate the recently updated versions of the following, previously posted to the "RC (Inguz etc.)" thread: - Plugin.pm - custom-types.conf - Index.html - InguzDSP.exe.conf The Ubuntu installation has been successfully tested on Ubuntu 14.04. Although I have tested the files as far as possible - but there are non guarantees. So use at your own risk. With luck, this should enable Inguz to be successfully installed on Windows or Ubuntu relatively straightforwardly. Link to shared folder: https://app.box.com/s/0iohpwgqnuiztmsd3y5g2dxqug4wdvq8 Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
