Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
morris_minor;261993 Wrote: > ...Guy's observations about the future are really quite worrying, and > there is a danger that "people like us" (who like good quality sound > systems, at whatever price level we can afford) will get tarred with > the loony brush by those not in the know who assume that all > "audiophiles" share the same wacky beliefs.Why worry, so long as you are > enjoying your music, who cares what others think? -- egd Thecus N5200PRO >> Transporter >> ATC SCA2 >> ATC SCM100SLAT egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I'm mostly a lurker on these pages but I just have to comment on this one: That is one of the funniest websites I have seen in a long time. I love the "white paper" on the Brilliant Pebbles. It hits the nail on the head with the audiophile jargon! If someone takes this seriously - what was the saying about a fool and his money? -- bdsug bdsug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14994 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
GuyDebord;261753 Wrote: > Sadly, all of this talks about Us and the sick and abusive industry we > support. If this direct attack on the stupidity of many "audiophiles" > can't detract people from this forum to stop believing in 50 dollar > ethernet cables, what can we expect about the future of this hobby? > more 15,000 Euro interconnects? more magic pebbles? and all for the > gullibility of the demanding consumer. This type of websites should > awaken the stupid and create an awareness about the wrong turn of the > industry, if this doesnt do it, what will? > > We are all victims in one way or another, its just the extent of > endless dissatisfaction that is growing; thanks to the massive > marketing strategies, this form of mind control will for sure > perpetuate... I have to admit I started this thread for a bit of a laugh, knowing that a great many people in these forums share my scepticsm (and even contempt) for anything approaching snake oil. But Guy's observations about the future are really quite worrying, and there is a danger that "people like us" (who like good quality sound systems, at whatever price level we can afford) will get tarred with the loony brush by those not in the know who assume that all "audiophiles" share the same wacky beliefs. -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
I've noticed the following: My own system doesn't sound *exactly* the same if i listen to the same piece of music -say- 15 minutes later. The sound that i perceive depends on my own ability of paying attention to some selected details. It definetely doesn't sound the same depending on my mood. I don't need clocks or other fancy accessories to alter my attention and/or my mood. But some people do. :) -- Themis SB3 - Arcam AV300 - Mulidine Arpége Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Phil Leigh;261793 Wrote: > my wife (NOT me) can't hear it This is the method I use ;-) She does not care (or notice) what I'm doing with the equipment but can precisely describe how the sound has changed. If changed at all. -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
I'll admit that in the past I have delved into some of the more "esoteric" tweaks... I now operate a simple and strict policy: If I can't measure the improvement or my wife (NOT me) can't hear it then I don't purchase it - period. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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chill;261726 Wrote: > Is it really just 'business'? Isn't it at least against some > advertising rules, or maybe even illegal, to make false claims to sell > products. Tricky area, I know, since some buyers might well be > convinced that these things make a difference, so in a roundabout way > they therefore do, but if the seller really is playing a joke on the > world, isn't he on dodgy ground? Sadly, all of this talks about Us and the more and more sick and abusive industry we support. If this direct attack on the stupidity of many "audiophiles" can't detract people from this forum, what can we expect about the future of this hobby? more 15,000 Euro interconnects? more magic pebbles? and all for the gullibility of the demanding consumer. This type of websites should awaken the stupid and create an awareness about the wrong turn of the industry, if this doesnt do it, what will? We are all victims in one way or another, its just the extent of endless dissatisfaction that is growing, thanks to the massive marketing strategies this form of mind control will for sure perpetuate... -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm & Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Mini Basis SQ phono preamp, link: WireWorld Silver Eclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: Acoustic Zen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) & van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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gw43;261725 Wrote: > In the link to the alarm clock, I think the "PWB" in PWB Electronics is > Peter Belt. > > http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/ > > I'll have a pint of what he's had! Here, at least they're sharing their widsom for free: http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html If CDs sound better after being frozen, will my FLACs if I freeze my NAS? -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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killie99;261691 Wrote: > and making plenty $$ from some very gullable people but hey > that's business for you! > I like teh statement "not covered by our 30 day warranty" :) Is it really just 'business'? Isn't it at least against some advertising rules, or maybe even illegal, to make false claims to sell products. Tricky area, I know, since some buyers might well be convinced that these things make a difference, so in a roundabout way they therefore do, but if the seller really is playing a joke on the world, isn't he on dodgy ground? -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
In the link to the alarm clock, I think the "PWB" in PWB Electronics is Peter Belt. http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/ I'll have a pint of what he's had! -- gw43 gw43's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11327 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
and making plenty $$ from some very gullable people but hey that's business for you! I like teh statement "not covered by our 30 day warranty" :) -- killie99 Primare D30.2 CD player, MF 24/96 DAC, MF A1000 Amp, Impulse H2 speakers oh, and an SB3 killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I refuse to believe that these people are serious. If they actually turn up at shows with this stuff they must be just taking the joke to another level. LOL Shane -- swhite58 Clark Connect Linux file server->Various boxes with flashing lights->SB3->Zhaolu D3 DAC->NAD C320BEE->Polk Monitor 4.5/Sennheiser headphones swhite58's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5038 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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"Lord, what phools these mortals be." --Shakespeare (kind of) -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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BlueBlast;261577 Wrote: > and laughing internally at the alleged explanations of "air", "flow" and > rebalancing of the cosmic harmonics. "My work always tried to unite the true with the beautiful, but when I had to choose one or the other, I usually chose the beautiful." - Hermann Weyl . -- haunyack Transporter -> Box-O-Wires (audiophile grade) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature . haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Sadly these folks are not an "art project". I have seen their products at various Hifi shows (e.g. RMAF, CES, HE2006). Even worse, I've been in demo rooms at these shows where this "tweaks" were in use by otherwise normal appearing humans. I could not restrain myself from gently inquiring of the exhibitor just what these items were doing...and laughing internally at the alleged explanations of "air", "flow" and rebalancing of the cosmic harmonics. -- BlueBlast BlueBlast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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They mention being at the CES 2004 and 2005. Can anyone verify that? -- Kurt Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord;261520 Wrote: > I really cant stop laughing in awe, this is the first time I take a > closer look at the machinadynamica website. Im speachless. I cant > figure it out, but the more I read the more it doesnt look like a joke, > im starting to thing that there are people that actually pay for this > things! either that, or its a very well crafted art project... There are some who think it's Kait's joke on the world, some kind of Dadaist art statement :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
I really cant stop laughing in awe, this is the first time I take a closer look at the machinadynamica website. Im speachless. I cant figure it out, but the more I read the more it doesnt look like a joke, im starting to thing that there are people that actually pay for this things! either that, or its a very well crafted art project... -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm & Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Mini Basis SQ phono preamp, link: WireWorld Silver Eclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: Acoustic Zen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) & van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
Kurt;261491 Wrote: > I especially like the parts about how the batteries will last for years > but you cannot replace them yourself, how they will start offering a > battery replacement service for a fee down the road, and how you > shouldn't attempt to adjust the clock as it is set at the factory. > > Does anyone else get the impression that they don't want you to open it > up and discover it's just a clock?! Surely not...that would be (whispers) "not entirely honest" -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I especially like the parts about how the batteries will last for years but you cannot replace them yourself, how they will start offering a battery replacement service for a fee down the road, and how you shouldn't attempt to adjust the clock as it is set at the factory. Does anyone else get the impression that they don't want you to open it up and discover it's just a clock?! -- Kurt Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I've heard of clock upgrades...heck I've even got one in my DAC...but this is just insane. I particularly like the comment that adding a second clock more than doubled the benefit...the only exponential marketing parallel I can think of is hard drugs! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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At least (unlike fat stinky dirty snake oil) these tweaks should not have any negative impact on the sound and how how system looks (a bit pricey, though) ;-) Hey, these clocks can even show the time and date! Don't say they are not useful! And I like the big orange dot (because I like the colour). I bet the teleportation tweak works even better. Look at the customer comments: "Hi Geoff, You certainly have an unusual job. Tweaking *people's minds* as well... " Think positively! "Positive vibrations yeah, POSITIVE, Rastaman vibration yeah! Positive I and I vibration yeah! Positive" -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord;261435 Wrote: > Perhaps there is a regular in this forum that might defend it and back > it up,, I'd welcome that. Maybe they could explain how the clock works, as the manufacture seems to steer around that information. -- Kurt Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
morris_minor;261424 Wrote: > Perhaps we could all club together for a conference call to get it done > on the cheap? > > http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm > > And I'll sell you **my** alarm clock for a couple of quid: > http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm This is just more crap just like their $30 wall plates that sell for 59 cents are Home Depot. It is a placebo for any audio maniac that would pay $30K for a turntable or $100K for a pair of speakers. What is another 199 dollars when you are paranoid that your 200K system is lacking something and somebody is willing to sell you a skyhook or some frequency grease to make you feel more secure about the excessive amount of money you spent for a system that is still lacking something! -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: Squeezebox 3, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord;261435 Wrote: > Perhaps there is a regular in this forum that might defend it and back > it up,, Let's see; it's advertised as "The World's Greatest Tweak". >From Merriam-Webster Online: Main Entry: tweak Function: verb 3: to make usually small adjustments in or to So if a tweak is a usually small adjustment, this would indeed seem to qualify as one of the world's greatest -meaning smallest- adjustments. What is not defensible is their use of the classic sci-fi movie quote, and the babies-r-us coupon counter at the top. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Perhaps there is a regular in this forum that might defend it and back it up,, -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm & Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Mini Basis SQ phono preamp, link: WireWorld Silver Eclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: Acoustic Zen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) & van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!
Perhaps we could all club together for a conference call to get it done on the cheap? http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm And I'll sell you **my** alarm clock for a couple of quid: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42583 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
