Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Robin Bowes;277613 Wrote: > Kris wrote: > > > > As a single unit, imo the Transporter does NOT cut it for > audiophiles. > > > > Just to put that into perspective, in *lots* of people's opinion: it > does. > > You're not wrong - it's your opinion, but many others are very happy > with the Transporter (myself included). > > Good luck finding something you like. > > R. Yes, for many, the stock Transporter is 'good enough'. For others, it represents a good value because modifiers exist who can make the sound more to their liking. I would not have considered a purchase otherwise at the stock unit price point. Neither group of owners should feel compelled to deride or attempt to marginilize the other group. -- DotSystem DotSystem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I tried the other way of decoding , must say , I didn't notice that much difference tho my server is far away from my unit so switching between settings involved running downstairs etc. It didn't take me any time at all to realise the TP wasnt up to snuff compared to my Jolida , it is distinctly bass shy and doesnt have the air , it's not bad for what it is tho and the convenience of it and the ability to run headphones , ATC's and meridians off one box outweighs the downside. I then compared the TP to a Myriad CDP and a cheapy Technics , the myriad and technics were closer but there is still something "missing". Levels are irrelevant here as what is missing is not really level dependant. One cannot phoo-phoo the concerns expressed , I have read a few reviews and not all are totally complimentary to the sonics. apart from that ,in terms of construction, my tactile knob is broken and that doesnt make me a happy camper. I tried the DAC alone and using it with another CDP was better than streaming?? It might be worthwhile investigating what is going on , the unit may measure perfectly but it doesnt sound perfect to many. It's a pity I'm in South Africa , I would like to hear a modded unit compared to stock. I actually think a wireless streamer is sort of a band aid , the problem with discless music has been storage capacity and bandwidth. A 128 gb+ Solid state storage device plugged into a player with no moving parts might be the next "big" thing for audiophiles , currently SS storge is very expensive and limited but that will change. It would be easy to "flash" the device from any source , computers , kiosks in music places etc and the vagaries of setting up a wireless system and running a puter would be negated. It could be used in cars , homes etc and will have many other uses apart from music only. (data/photography etc) Building a cheap player will be easy and it will be compact. Sean what you gonna do to top the Sb/duet/TP? -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I only had a 2 day demo, which imo is more than enough to determine if I like it or not. The unit was well run in, as its a demo product so I didnt need much time I liked its detail, and loved its functions and ease of use. But the more I listened to it, the more I disliked it. It's bright, forward and very uninvolving - musically. I'm looking at some of Linns offerings or perhaps will use a DAC straight into my source -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I have an SB3 at the moment and I find that its internal DAC bumps up vocals along with some of the midrange as well. It can become fatiguing as my speakers are a bit forward to begin with. When I play poorly recorded material such as most rock, it starts hurting the ears within a song or two. For that kinda music I prefer to use the DAC within my HT receiver. For jazz, blues and live recordings the SB DAC makes a huge difference, not tiring at all to listen to and definitely heaps better than the receiver's DAC. I got a TP on order so we'll see how it compares -- george_k george_k's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2519 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris;277571 Wrote: > Thanks David, I didn't even know that option was available. I've > actually sent the Transporter back to the dealer. > > I have read a few reviews now that have all experienced what I > experienced - analytical, bright and uninvolving sound. I LOVE the > transporter interface, but to buy something like this and then put a MF > Dac or something on top seems like a waste of money... > > I am going to consider the offerings from Linn (Akurate DS) if I can > find one at a semi decent price. > > As a single unit, imo the Transporter does NOT cut it for audiophiles. > > Cheers It is interesting to note that from March 7th- March 9th you have reversed your opinion so dramatically. I assume you have a 30 day trial period. Wouldn't it make more sense to give yourself more time to make a decision? When I audition gear If my opinion changes so radically so quickly I take a break from listening and try to come back with a fresh perspective. Then I spend a few weeks listening to make sure I have given the new gear enough serious listening to make a decision I think I will not 2nd guess. Read Wes Phillip's review in Stereophile where he raves about Transporter and compares it favorably to the 6,000.00 Ayre. Do you only have the TP for a few days from a dealer? If so, I understand your feeling the need to make a quick decision but, IMO, you might change your mind if you can take more time. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris wrote: > > As a single unit, imo the Transporter does NOT cut it for audiophiles. > Just to put that into perspective, in *lots* of people's opinion: it does. You're not wrong - it's your opinion, but many others are very happy with the Transporter (myself included). Good luck finding something you like. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
bigfool1956;277512 Wrote: > I would say the difference is one of order vs energy, in that the native > decoding orders the music better, whilst the alternative has a little > more energy. > > As an example, I listened extensively to the track "Secretly" by Skunk > Anansie. When played with native decoding it becomes obvious how Skin > phrases her vocal delivery to drop the words exactly to the timing of > the band, little pauses here and there to ensure this happens. With the > same track transcoded on the server, this becomes somewhat obscured. > > As I said, the transcoded file has a little more energy, but to my view > this is at a cost. Somewhat like comparing a CD player to the TP. I > suppose 'slightly brash' would be a reasonable description. > > I do know that some people prefer the transcoded wave stream, and the > trade of may be personal and system dependent. My system is not short > on energy, and so doesn't need any help in this respect. > > What I like is that this is a tweak that is free, reversible, and takes > but a second to try. Why not have a go yourself and see what you think. > > If you are running wireless, then the extra bandwidth of the wave > stream may cause problems, where you previously had none. Thanks David, I didn't even know that option was available. I've actually sent the Transporter back to the dealer. I have read a few reviews now that have all experienced what I experienced - analytical, bright and uninvolving sound. I LOVE the transporter interface, but to buy something like this and then put a MF Dac or something on top seems like a waste of money... I am going to consider the offerings from Linn (Akurate DS) if I can find one at a semi decent price. As a single unit, imo the Transporter does NOT cut it for audiophiles. Cheers -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I would say the difference is one of order vs energy, in that the native decoding orders the music better, whilst the alternative has a little more energy. As an example, I listened extensively to the track "Secretly" by Skunk Anansie. When played with native decoding it becomes obvious how Skin phrases her vocal delivery to drop the words exactly to the timing of the band, little pauses here and there to ensure this happens. With the same track transcoded on the server, this becomes somewhat obscured. As I said, the transcoded file has a little more energy, but to my view this is at a cost. Somewhat like comparing a CD player to the TP. I suppose 'slightly brash' would be a reasonable description. I do know that some people prefer the transcoded wave stream, and the trade of may be personal and system dependent. My system is not short on energy, and so doesn't need any help in this respect. What I like is that this is a tweak that is free, reversible, and takes but a second to try. Why not have a go yourself and see what you think. If you are running wireless, then the extra bandwidth of the wave stream may cause problems, where you previously had none. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
How would you describe the difference tween the 2 ways of decoding , what makes you prefer the native version? -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris;277117 Wrote: > For the money they are asking it should be fantastic straight out of the > box! Otherwise I may as well look at other options but Ill be blowed if > I can think of any!! Agreed, and it is for many of us. Perhaps you may prefer a Squeezebox with something like a Musical Fidelity tube DAC for a sweeter and more dimensional sound. RG -- RGibran Transporter > PS Audio GCC-100 > Martin Logan Aeon I RGibran's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
In server settings, file types, uncheck the box flac -> flac, leaving the box flac -> wave checked. It is quite interesting to compare the two settings, as they certainly sound noticably different. My son, who is not a hifi nut, also could hear the difference. I can only guess as to why there is a difference, but it certainly won't be anything to do with the actual decoded file. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
bigfool1956;277343 Wrote: > Hi Kris, > > My CD players has a certain extra weight to the upper bass, something > that I had unconciously compensated for when I positioned my speakers, > as a result getting a compromise between the CD player and the > turntable. > > The TP does not have this characteristic, and so I had to reposition > the speakers to even the response (still working on that actually). So > you could give that a try. > > Secondly, for some reason decoding FLAC natively in the TP sounds > different to decoding it in SS/SC and sending the waves to the TP. Now > I personally prefer the native option, but it is the work of a second > to try that out too. Big fool, How do you set the decoding in SS rather than in the TP? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Hi Kris, My CD players has a certain extra weight to the upper bass, something that I had unconciously compensated for when I positioned my speakers, as a result getting a compromise between the CD player and the turntable. The TP does not have this characteristic, and so I had to reposition the speakers to even the response (still working on that actually). So you could give that a try. Secondly, for some reason decoding FLAC natively in the TP sounds different to decoding it in SS/SC and sending the waves to the TP. Now I personally prefer the native option, but it is the work of a second to try that out too. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Rodney_Gold;277010 Wrote: > Accurate is not always the best, my TACT room correction sounds > absolutely lousy when it does its thing and "flattens" the room/speaker > interface If you do not apply a preference curve it's unlistenable... If your speakers are about 1m away from room boundaries, flattening the listener-position frequency response isn't the "accurate" thing to do anyway. It might be if your speakers are near the walls though. Psychoacoustics is a more complex area than at first sight so I wouldn't draw general conclusions from this anecdote. Kris;277117 Wrote: > > I would have thought that the Bel Canto DAC would take away that thin, > anayltic, cold sound but it doesnt really change it at all. Infact its > almost identical. > I don't fault manufacturers for making transparent sources, any more than I blame them for making transparent cables or banana plugs. Otherwise we end up with sources and amplifiers and speaker cables and banana plugs which are suitable only for a minority of applications. The same can't be said for speakers because there is not a clear definition of "accuracy" for them - they interact with rooms and rooms are all unique anyway so speakers and rooms are the optimum points to introduce taste. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Hi Everyone, Sounds like im not alone I would have thought that the Bel Canto DAC would take away that thin, anayltic, cold sound but it doesnt really change it at all. Infact its almost identical. I remember using a older Rotel CD player and the sound was far more involving - its proving very difficult to get a good front end to play a networked source file! I think my unit is already 'burned in' as its a demo unit I'm trialling. Not really interested in spending more money to add a tube output stage. For the money they are asking it should be fantastic straight out of the box! Otherwise I may as well look at other options but Ill be blowed if I can think of any!! This is disappointing. I'm going to hook up a cheap CD player as a digital in, and see how it sounds. It could be a the flac media, or it could be the DAC. Thanks Kris -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Accurate is not always the best, my TACT room correction sounds absolutley lousy when it does its thing and "flateens" the room/speaker interface If you do not apply a preference curve it's unlistenablethats why TACT allow 10 curves as presets Colouration is personal preference and that is inviolate. No mmatter how I aclimatise my ears , they arent going to be happy with the sounds as I have heard what sounds better to me. If your do it all front end can be modded for 1600 and it makes one happy, its a relatively small price in terms of high end audio , a transport and DAC can cost many times more than a modded transporter. High end audio is all relative and if one has a serious system, then the cost of the mod is pretty minimal. I have only one misgiving with mods and that is if they are not reversible and thats why I would probably personally go for a valve pre if I wanted the valve sound. I must say , I committed the cardinal sin re Hifi with the transporter , I bought it unauditioned in my system , so essentially I took a $2000 risk...I cant return it if I dont like it. I think thats what folk who have their unit modded do , take a $1600 risk. -- Rodney_Gold Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Please give yourself some time to adjust to the very accurate signal the TP renders before making a judgement. To spend an extra 1,6000.00 to get tube coloration ,IMO, is a monumental waste of money. This is an opinion I would not post on the ModWright forum unlike the shill for ModWright posting here. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
amcluesent wrote: > I experienced that with my TP but kept playing music and it came good > after a couple of weeks. Burn-in effects on the cables/op-amps maybe? Much more likely is that you retrained your ears/brain to like what you heard. I have zero belief in claims that electronic components 'burn in' for more than a few minutes, if that long. I do know that stories about 'burn-in' requirements are very effective at addressing buyers remorse. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
My experince is exactly same. It did get better after a couple of weeks but it was still overly analytical and thin. I did get it modded , that diddent do much , but the mod greatly improved the digital out wich was the mod designers main goal . -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I am also of the opinion the transporter is pretty accurate and somewhat cold and a little forward I bought it cos I thought it could replace my front end in a headphone system which was a Jolida CDP (valve) and a musical Fidelity X-can v3 running Siemens CCs's and either a Senheisser HD 600 or 650 cans. I find it more detialed compared to the jolids , less "airy" however and distinctly bass shy. Overall the tenasporter might be more accurate or better but its far less involving than my old system. SPDIF output is however as good if not better than my theta Jade. I dont want to go back to the jolida due to not listening where my cd collection is and the obvious utility of having your music on tap. I will fiddle with some tube rolling andtry some different interconnects etc to try tune it to my taste. ' I dont think the mods re valves etc are a waste if they make the unit more enjoyable to those that have the taste for valve type sound. Happens plenty in the car world , ppl buy perfectly acceptable and useful vehicles and modify em straight away in various ways. Mods don't mean the unit was no good in the first place and no criticism to the designer. It's pretty much a compliment that the tuner or modifier thinks the unit is worth while tweaking. After all one doesnt want to start with anything second rate. -- Rodney_Gold Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
rydenfan;276917 Wrote: > Kris, many people blast me on this forum for having my Transporter > modified but I too found the Transporter a little too cold and > analytical. I had mine modified by Dan Wright which includes tubes > modifications, and upgraded power supply, and a re-build of the analog > stage and I am know in audio heaven. If you wish to discuss this > further please PM me as I am not looking to be attacked again. > > http://www.modwright.com/products/index.php?product_id=28 Oh Yea. Tell him to ditch the Bel Canto because of spdif then recommend he spend another 1,600.00 on a mod to add some tube stage. -- RGibran Transporter > PS Audio GCC-100 > Martin Logan Aeon I RGibran's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Yep, mine was pretty good right out of the box. Then all over the map till about the 125 hour mark. Almost packed it up and sent it back several times. Glad I didn't. :-) -- RGibran Transporter > PS Audio GCC-100 > Martin Logan Aeon I RGibran's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris, many people blast me on this forum for having my Transporter modified but I too found the Transporter a little too cold and analytical. I had mine modified by Dan Wright which includes tubes modifications, and upgraded power supply, and a re-build of the analog stage and I am know in audio heaven. If you wish to discuss this further please PM me as I am not looking to be attacked again. http://www.modwright.com/products/index.php?product_id=28 -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
>And now a bit lifeless!< I experienced that with my TP but kept playing music and it came good after a couple of weeks. Burn-in effects on the cables/op-amps maybe? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
You're ears are playing tricks on you. :) You feel what you expect to feel. Like right now, I'm drinking an Anchor Steam Beer, and chatting with a good friend. All the music sounds great. ;) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
And now a bit lifeless! gosh whats happening :( -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
ha! not so fast... I'm finding the TP is really really forward with vocals - sometimes its a bit fautiging, anyone find a similar thing? its like vocals overtake the musical instruments constantly.. -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris;276773 Wrote: > I dont actually own the bel canto, its on demo with the Transporter but > I've decided i like the TP > > I've been listening to the TP on its analogue stage constantly so far, > and do enjoy its sound Great to hear that. Now why don't you buy us a round of drinks with all that money you are saving by not buying the Bel Canto :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I dont actually own the bel canto, its on demo with the Transporter but I've decided i like the TP I've been listening to the TP on its analogue stage constantly so far, and do enjoy its sound -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
I would certainly remove the Bel Canto and run the Analog outs of the Transporter directly into your Musical Fidelity. The Transporter has a very good DAC and analog stage all of which you are wasting by running spidf out. You could use a Squeezebox for that scenario. Let us know what you think. My idea is that you will no longer need the Bel Canto, but only your ears can make that decision. -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Thanks, ive managed to drop the gain on the Bel Canto a bit and match it to the TP set at MAX with the MF Amp - works fine... I may fiddle with jumpers later - now to listen, see if the Bel Canto DAC makes a difference or not... -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
You may need to attenuate the analogue out of the TP to match it to your amp. There are internal jumpers to do this for the RCA outs. For the balanced outs you'll need to purchase balanced attenuators. Read the wikis for more info first though. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thanks for the fast reply. So no issues running the TP at max volume and controlling it via the amp? I am running wireless, ill look into running it wired also. I am actually running the TP into the amp via the analogue outputs right now, but the bel canto is connected. Ill do some A/B comparisions but right now, im enjoying the TP via its analogue outputs straight into the amp Ill check the software version! Thanks edit: this is what im running SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 17793 - Windows Vista - EN - cp1252 -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Kris;276667 Wrote: > Hi Guys > > Firstly, WOW what a device. It's fantastic - I'm amazed at its detail. > I'm running it streaming FLAC audio from a 2TB Nas, its mind blowing. > I've connected its digital output to a Bel Canto DAC3 which connects > into a Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated, powering JM LAB Electra 1007 BE > speakers - the sound is stunning! > > Few issues I'm hoping someone can help me with: > > Volume Control - Which is the best device to control my audio keeping > MAX quality? The Bel Canto DAC? The MF Amp or the Transporter? > > Currently, I have set the Transporter too MAX volume and adjust it > further with the MF Amp. > > The other option is to adjust it via the Bel Canto - what do you > suggest?? > > > Secondly, I've had the unit Freeze alot so far, which is disappointing > along with the remote search/browse functions not working (it kinda > gets into some strange loop) > How can I determine the software version, and what version should I > upgrade to? > > Thanks for listening > > Kris- Yeah, its not bad, is it? Just as a matter of interest - have you tried comparing the sound using the analog outs from the TP straight into your amp with your current setup? The DAC in the TP ought to be at least as good as that DAC, though of course this will be highly subjective. For the volume control: as a general principle control volume as late as possible, assuming that nothing is being overdriven in the chain. If its convenient to use the amp volume control, then use it and leave the TP and DAC at MAX. Having said that, for normal 16 bit sources you do have quite a bit of headroom before you will start losing any SQ. The freezing is disappointing, it shouldn't do that. Are you connected wireless or wired? (wireless networks cause a lot of problems around here.). For the software version, go to "settings" on the web interface and follow your nose. You should be running 7.0 these days. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Why don't you try the analog out from the TP and not use the BelCanto dac. You might find you like the TP more. One of the advantages of using the TP dac is that you don't need to use the spdif connection. Give that a try and let us know what you think. Just imagine, if you like the TP as much you could sell the BelCanto and buy a lot of good single malt to go with your listening :-) It is probably best to use the analog volume of your MF amp. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Hi Guys Firstly, WOW what a device. It's fantastic - I'm amazed at its detail. I'm running it streaming FLAC audio from a 2TB Nas, its mind blowing. I've connected its digital output to a Bel Canto DAC3 which connects into a Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated, powering JM LAB Electra 1007 BE speakers - the sound is stunning! Few issues I'm hoping someone can help me with: Volume Control - Which is the best device to control my audio keeping MAX quality? The Bel Canto DAC? The MF Amp or the Transporter? Currently, I have set the Transporter too MAX volume and adjust it further with the MF Amp. The other option is to adjust it via the Bel Canto - what do you suggest?? Secondly, I've had the unit Freeze alot so far, which is disappointing along with the remote search/browse functions not working (it kinda gets into some strange loop) How can I determine the software version, and what version should I upgrade to? Thanks for listening Kris- -- Kris Kris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner
pkfox;244016 Wrote: > Thanks Mark, I had horrible visions of having to send it back - while I > have your ear - I have slimserver on a READYNAS NV , is there a way I > can retrieve the ss version from the command line ? Not from the command line that I know of, but easily accessible on the web interface at the bottom of Server Settings. The ReadyNAS NV may be using an older version of SlimServer. Unfortunately newer versions must be modified by Infrant/Netgear. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mark Lanctot;243762 Wrote: > Normal. This is the knob in a degauss cycle (the knob is magnetic). > > Later firmware versions didn't do this quite as much, so be sure to > keep SlimServer current in order to get the latest firmware version. Thanks Mark, I had horrible visions of having to send it back - while I have your ear - I have slimserver on a READYNAS NV , is there a way I can retrieve the ss version from the command line ? -- pkfox When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Sometimes jiggling the knob helps. I hope that next Transporter won't have anything on it's front mask. Who uses that anyway, it's just for show off. -- nuhi nuhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner
Normal. This is the knob in a degauss cycle (the knob is magnetic). Later firmware versions didn't do this quite as much, so be sure to keep SlimServer current in order to get the latest firmware version. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner
Hi All, just installed my TP and so far am totally knocked out by it - one thing I've noticed is that occasionally it emits a clunking noise when using the remote( a bit like a floppy disk drive reading a disk , but not as loud ) is this normal ? -- pkfox When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
