[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-07 Thread sleepysurf

I paid a lump-sum to my A/V installer, which included running wire for
in-ceiling speakers (Proficient Audio, pretty decent BTW).  Surfing the
net, seems the amp sells for about $240, but I think I got it for a
little less.

I'm running the SB analog out to the audio in of the Russound.  I
mounted the amp on the back of my bedroom dresser, virtually invisible.
In a kitchen, it could go on top of, inside, or under, cabinets.

The Russound Auto Power On/Off has an adjustable time out, which I had
to tweak a bit.   I am also using the Slimserver Pre-Amp Volume
Control, to allow me to keep the volume scale 35-40 for typical
listening.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-07 Thread nicky6

How much is the Russound amp?
Did you connect the analogue outs of the SB2 to the amplified in
connectors of the amp? I.e. not the analogue inputs on the left of the
back panel (where the video-in is located)? or how?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-07 Thread sleepysurf

Those Pragmatic in wall amps look very slick, but I'd still be leery
about having a heat generating electrical device hidden in a wall,
faceplate or not.

Facing a similar situation (retro-fitting an amp) for my bedroom
Squeezebox setup... I went with a Russound R235LS (35 watts)...
http://russound.com/amplifiers.htm

This amp has a reasonably small form factor with wall/cabinet mount
screw holes.  It also offers MULTIPLE inputs with automatic override...
so my music signal automatically shuts off whenever my TV audio is on.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-07 Thread P Floding

nicky6 Wrote: 
> The thing is, a friend of mine already has that amp built in into his
> new house (he moved in during 2004) using SliMP3's and Boston inwall
> speakers. I have no idea how it sounds compared to the Sonic T-Amp.
> When I was there, the sound was fairly low and I never asked him to
> demonstrate its capabilities.
> 
> I was hoping someone here might've had some experiences with the amp.
> He says it's very cool (as in the opposite of warm) and therefore works
> nice in this application. Dunno if the T-amp also is cool, and if the
> low 5W is comparable to the Pragmatic's 48W and which of the two sounds
> the best...
> 
> btw, here's his application:
> http://www.silverskar.se/html/house_041124-041130_7.html

I would not build in any type of connector that would normally need
periodic cleaning, unless I could easily get access to it. It would
probably be best to solder in all cabling into an in-wall amp!

Just my $0.02


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread nicky6

The thing is, a friend of mine already has that amp built in into his
new house (he moved in during 2004) using SliMP3's and Boston inwall
speakers. I have no idea how it sounds compared to the Sonic T-Amp.
When I was there, the sound was fairly low and I never asked him to
demonstrate its capabilities.

I was hoping someone here might've had some experiences with the amp.
He says it's very cool (as in the opposite of warm) and therefore works
nice in this application. Dunno if the T-amp also is cool, and if the
low 5W is comparable to the Pragmatic's 48W and which of the two sounds
the best...

btw, here's his application:
http://www.silverskar.se/html/house_041124-041130_7.html


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread Skunk

nicky6 Wrote: 
> If you want info on inwall mounting please search in other threads. 
> 
> So, anyone has any input on the particular amp in question?

Sorry, I did some more looking and realized the Pragmatic amp IS made
for in wall use, and has readymade solutions for wall plates, jboxes,
panels, etc- so you're right I was WAY off base. 

There may not have been much response because the amp is fairly new,
and the company's products are marketed solely to professional systems
installers, according to
http://www.hometoys.com/releases/may03/pragmatic-09.htm . 

Supposedly Pragmatic's founder, Prasanna Shah, is an award winning
engineer; and the stereo amps are 'audiophile quality dual monoblock
amps'. 

Interesting product with tons of applications, thanks for pointing it
out- and let us know how it sounds if you get one.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread nicky6

How about not stealing this thread?! If you want info on inwall mounting
please search in other threads. There are lots of info to find. See e.g.
"slimp3 in*".

So, anyone has any input on the particular amp in question?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread Skunk

jonheal Wrote: 
> I was attempting to point to PartsExpress's stock of in-wall enclosures
> (for the power supplies, etc.). You'd still need to run 110V romex into
> the box -- not exactly trivial.

Sorry about that, I see what you're saying [a way to plug in a wall
wart in-wall and up to code; although still would have to be
'accessible' as they're panels, which would defeat the purpose IMO] 

Anything done 'in wall' is best done prior to 'walling'. 'In wall multi
room solutions' is far too vague to help you much, nicky6, further than
saying I'd go for the sonic impact over the one you linked to.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread jonheal

Skunk Wrote: 
> Your link isn't very precise, unless you meant 'structured wiring' in
> general. Isn't structured wiring a proactive solution though, meaning
> you run all wires to every room before the need arises?
I was attempting to point to PartsExpress's stock of in-wall enclosures
(for the power supplies, etc.). You'd still need to run 110V romex into
the box -- not exactly trivial.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread Skunk

jonheal Wrote: 
> Get something like this:
> http://tinyurl.com/aglae

Your link isn't very precise, unless you meant 'structured wiring' in
general. Isn't structured wiring a proactive solution though, meaning
you run all wires to every room before the need arises?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread jonheal

Skunk Wrote: 
> How do you put it in the wall, yet still hook the Squeezebox and power
> supply up to it? There are wall plates for RCA connections, but you'd
> still need to add a junction box inside the wall to plug the amplifier
> into- except it's not commonplace to have an 'outlet' inside the wall,
> so you'd have to hardwire the DC converter to your electrical system.
> Hardly ideal :)
> 
> What kind of setup are you looking for? For example, squeezebox sitting
> on kitchen countertop?
Get something like this:
http://tinyurl.com/aglae


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inwall amplifiers

2006-02-06 Thread Skunk

nicky6 Wrote: 
> 
> I've looed at that for an inwall multiroom solution for squeezeboxes, 
> 

How do you put it in the wall, yet still hook the Squeezebox and power
supply up to it? There are wall plates for RCA connections, but you'd
still need to add a junction box inside the wall to plug the amplifier
into- except it's not commonplace to have an 'outlet' inside the wall,
so you'd have to hardwire the DC converter to your electrical system.
Hardly ideal :)

What kind of setup are you looking for? For example, squeezebox sitting
on kitchen countertop?


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