Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-23 Thread Ant

Hi OP

I use a rotel ra-02 amp and rcd-02 cd through b&w bookshelfs. Good
basic kit. I bought a duet and have to say it sounds better than the cd
player when playing flac files and that is with no external dac.

In terms of usability the duet remote is brilliant and running it from
a nas drive, while quite difficult in the early setup, is fantastic once
up and running. Silent and super cheap in terms of electricity usage.

I prefer to listen than to tinker and the duet is ideal for my needs, I
heartily recommend it.

Personally I would buy the duet and see how it goes. You can always get
the transporter later if your ears are good enough. Personally I think
there is a lot of kidology going on with higher end gear and while the
transporter may sound marginally better (or maybe just different)
occasionally on short passages of some tracks, mostly I think you would
struggle to tell the difference.

I imagine many may disagree, but really only your ears matter.

cheers, Ant


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-08 Thread Annakova

Since you have Rotel equipment, you might be interested to know that
Rotel has just announced a digital tuner, the RDG-1520, that should be
available in a couple of months.  It doesn't appear to be supporting
FLAC, though.  Here is the announcement (I haven't seen any pictures
yet):

RDG-1520—A tuner for the 21st Century

RDG stands for Rotel Digital Gateway. The RDG-1520 certainly opens the
gate wide for all that streaming media can offer. The receiver’s tuner
section includes both terrestrial FM and Internet radio so listening
options are virtually limitless! There are presently over 15,000
Internet radio stations listed. In order to help keep your clients
favorite stations handy, the RDG-1520 includes 30 possible presets for
instantaneous access to both FM and Internet broadcasts. It also
includes a USB input for direct digital connection of an iPod (or other
USB class 2 devices), bypassing the inexpensive analog output stage in
favor of a Wolfson DAC and high-end analog stage.

The RDG-1520 supports UPnP technology. UPnP devices are “plug-and-play”
in that when connected to a network they automatically announce their
network address and supported device and services types, enabling
clients that recognize those types to immediately begin using the
device. The RDG-1520 streams music files from a networked PC using
Windows Media Player 11 over a wireless or wired Ethernet connection. A
USB to Wi-Fi Ethernet dongle is included. Supported codecs include
RealAudio®, WMA, MP3, AAC & AAC+ (non DRM), AU, WAV and AIFF. A planned
software update will provide support for the Rhapsody and Pandora music
services. 

The RDG-1520 can be controlled via bi-directional RS-232, as well as
discrete IR. Custom integrators will appreciate that the chassis is a
standard 2U size that works with Rotel’s RFK rack kits for an easy,
clean installation. 

You might think the RDG-1520 would be a multi-thousand dollar
component, given all that it does and the high-performance design. The
few similar units on the market are indeed very expensive. But the
RDG-1520 offers the value proposition Rotel is known for, retailing at
only $999! 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-05 Thread earwaxer

Its true Phil that we should "trust our own ears", but we often do not
have the luxury to listen to all or even a small sample of the equipment
that is out there.

We have to take in other opinions and weigh them against what we have
heard and experienced. That is the reason why we spend time in forums
like this one, along with listening for ourselves. 

I do agree that we should not "fully" trust anyone's opinion. The
extent that we trust a review has to do with how that reviewers
experiences have been supported by other opinions as well as our own.
Some "trust" is usually warranted, to the extent that a reviewer has
explained why he/she has reached the conclusions about a particular
piece of gear. Many different factors have to be taken into account. 

The highly subjective nature of what sounds "good" is part of what
makes the audiophile hobby so rich and interesting IMO.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-04 Thread Phil Leigh

earwaxer;452455 Wrote: 
> Possibly even better would be the Modwright Transporter - modified with
> tubes etc! Some very real bucks there at just under $4K! The Modwright
> was rated "state of the art" by 6moons! You cant get much better than
> that!

That is a matter of opinion (as is pretty much everything). Sticking
some tubes in the output stage of a DAC sure changes the sound and
certainly some people will prefer it. Stating it as categorically better
is just wrong.

As for 6moons "SOTA"... please don't go there. Your own ears are the
ONLY truth. Use those. Trust no-one, believe nothing. These are your
"dollars", spend them wisely and do not seek affirmation. We all make
our own choices.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-04 Thread ianl

I didn't have the money for a Transporter.  I have what I think of as a
good system (Mission 775's, which at that time were the biggest speaker
Mission made, a Marantz 6000SE or something amp with no tone controls
and a Marantz 6010? KI cd player), and I was worried that the SB3 would
be a step down from my old cd player.  

Having listened for a while, there is a difference between the two, and
maybe the cd player sounds slightly better, but it is so close that I
will stick with the SB3 as my main source.  One advantage of the SB3 is
that unlike the cd player, it makes absolutely no mechanical noise,
which makes a difference at low volume.  

I haven't compared the SB3 to a duet, but judging by the specs, the SB3
should sound noticeably better through a reasonably good system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-09-02 Thread OldCoder

If you go with a Duet or SB Classic, you might be perfectly satisfied. 
They sound pretty good.

If it isn't good enough, a DAC Magic will elevate the quality
considerably.  I could not be happier with my Duet and Dac Magic.  The
transporter may be better, but my investment of $350 for a Duet plus
$400 for the Dac Magic is a far cry from $1250 for a used Transporter or
$2K for a new one.

That's all money I can spend on other improvements in my system.  I
have other things that need improvement in addition to the digital feed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-28 Thread morris_minor

harbars;452504 Wrote: 
> I just need to find a dealer here in the UK that isn't a total rip
> off...

Logitech UK: TP=GBP 1799

Ripcaster: TP=GBP 1289 plus free Controller for Black TP

https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/71

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-28 Thread harbars

earwaxer;452455 Wrote: 
> From what I have read about the sb plus dac vs. transporter option, you
> wont save much going with the sb plus dac if you dont already have a
> high end dac. You would have to at least look at Benchmark DAC for about
> $1300, and that would be the minimum to put you in the sound category of
> the transporter. You are also going to have to go SPDIF out from the sb
> to the DAC - not a big fan of SPDIF!
> 
> From a sound perspective my transporter blew away my Rega Apollo, which
> is a $1000 Stereophile Class B rated cd player. The Transporter was
> immediately more revealing and open in the sound. More flesh on the
> bones. Super clean and super clear. 
> 
> If you dont already have a high end DAC I would go with the
> transporter. You really cant go wrong, and you can tweak the sound to
> you room and preference with your amp/preamp/speaker. The transporter is
> a great basis for a very high end system. Possibly even better would be
> the Modwright Transporter - modified with tubes etc! Some very real
> bucks there at just under $4K! The Modwright was rated "state of the
> art" by 6moons! You cant get much better than that!

Great, thanks!

I have a MagicDAC but of course this isn't "high end". I did check out
the modwrite but the WAF factor means I just can't spend that much :( It
sounds like the transporter is the way to go, I just need to find a
dealer here in the UK that isn't a total rip off...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-28 Thread earwaxer

>From what I have read about the sb plus dac vs. transporter option, you
wont save much going with the sb plus dac if you dont already have a
high end dac. You would have to at least look at Benchmark DAC for about
$1300, and that would be the minimum to put you in the sound category of
the transporter. You are also going to have to go SPDIF out from the sb
to the DAC - not a big fan of SPDIF!

>From a sound perspective my transporter blew away my Rega Apollo, which
is a $1000 Stereophile Class B rated cd player. The Transporter was
immediately more revealing and open in the sound. More flesh on the
bones. Super clean and super clear. 

If you dont already have a high end DAC I would go with the
transporter. You really cant go wrong, and you can tweak the sound to
you room and preference with your amp/preamp/speaker. The transporter is
a great basis for a very high end system. Possibly even better would be
the Modwright Transporter - modified with tubes etc! Some very real
bucks there at just under $4K! The Modwright was rated "state of the
art" by 6moons! You cant get much better than that!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-27 Thread harbars

I've a similar question.

I've just got a Duet package, which I got mainly to check out the whole
squeezebox experience (a Windows Home Server storing FLAC is my server)
for the bedroom, with a view to perhaps getting a Transporter for my
main setup later.

My question is, is the transporter worth the money, say over another
receiver and a DAC (e.g. MagicDAC)? It seems awfully expensive. What
would some of the benefits of a transporter be over that from a sound
standpoint be? Any and all feedback on this appreciated!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-27 Thread kh6idf

Go with the SB3.  That's what I have for my hifi system.  I do use an
external DAC but this is not necessary at first.  The SB3 DAC is decent
but I get somewhat better sound with the external DAC (a Behringer
DEQ2496, you can also use a SRC2496 which has the same DAC for about
$100 less).  Or if you are happy with the SB3 but want a better DAC you
could sell the SB3 and move up to the transporter.  But the SB3 should
be just fine as a proof of concept, you may end up just keeping it, it
is certainly good enough.

I'm very pleased with the sound qulaity and it totally eliminated the
ground loop hum problems I was having when I tried to run a cable across
the room to my computer before I got the Squeezebox.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-23 Thread earwaxer

I dont think you can go wrong with the transporter if you have the cash!
There are tons of ways to MAXIMIZE the transporter sound that you may
want to explore.

You need to add some color. Probably the easy way would to put some
tubes in the signal path in the way of a cheap tube pre. Run you rotel
as a power amp. You could also run the transporter as a pre but not as
good an option in my opinion. Also you can experiment with t-amps,
depending on how sensitive your speakers are. I run my 86db maggies with
a 45wpc t-amp running dual 2050's. Its fine. Not concert hall levels,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-17 Thread NewBuyer

morris_minor;449081 Wrote: 
> Transporter owners will always tell you "go for a Transporter" ;-) How
> about getting a SB Classic as "proof of concept" which you can always
> re-use elsewhere in the house if you upgrade to a Transporter? And if
> Wi-fi performance is an issue, how about Homeplug/Powerline devices? I
> use these to great effect connecting server to router to switches to TP
> etc.
> 
> Bob

I too agree with Bob on all of the above.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-17 Thread Aurumer

I would go with morris minor. Get a SB3 and you can test everything.
When you feel comfortable with it buy a transporter and use the SB3 with
some nice little 2.1 Boombox somewhere else in the house.

I think nearly everybody here started with one SB3 or Duet and got more
and more Squeezeboxes when time goes buy. I am using 1 Transporter , 2
SB3 and a Boom at this time in four different rooms (started with 1
SB3).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-17 Thread avta

I agree with iPhone. Most problems I've encountered with my  wireless  (
Netgear g ) setup were solved by moving the router to another location
in the house. As far as your other questions I've gone the SB2/Duet
route. ( I have one of each )  One advantage of the Transporter is that
it allows for playing 24/96 files. However you would probably be using
the built-in DAC which I understand is of excellent quality but may be
surpassed by some stand alone DAC's. I prefer to wait for the next
generation SB which will likely be less expensive than the Transporter
but will allow 24/96 processing. This allows for upgrading the DAC over
time and less likelihood of buying something that becomes out of date .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-17 Thread morris_minor

deutscherhififan;448438 Wrote: 
> Go for the transporter. There is a guy selling new product on Audiogon
> for $1250 right now. If you compare this to a lesser 'combo solution" of
> for example a duet ($400) and a decent DAC (for example Cambridge DAC
> Magic), you are much better off with the transporter, especially at that
> price and given the transporter's performance. Two antennas for better
> reception, two configurable screens, a DAC much better than a DAC Magic
> or similar, a better internal power supply, the list goes on. As I said,
> no question.

Transporter owners will always tell you "go for a Transporter" ;-) How
about getting a SB Classic as "proof of concept" which you can always
re-use elsewhere in the house if you upgrade to a Transporter? And if
Wi-fi performance is an issue, how about Homeplug/Powerline devices? I
use these to great effect connecting server to router to switches to TP
etc.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-14 Thread deutscherhififan

Go for the transporter. There are folks selling new product on Audiogon
for $1200 right now. If you compare this to a 'combo solution" of a duet
($400) and a decent DAC (for example Cambridge DAC Magic)you are much
better of with the transporter, especially at that price. Two antennas
for better reception, two configurable screens, a DAC much better than a
DAC Magic or similar, a better internal power supply, the list goes on.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread amcluesent

>I want a system that will integrate with my current system<

I run a couple of Rotel RB-06 power amps with B&W CM2 speakers,
vertically bi-amped. You need a Transporter to get match these
components, Apple Airport Express is toy-town stuff in comparison.

The Rotel and TP look good too...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread broadside

If you're going for the cheaper option then the SB3 or Classic sounds
much better to my ears than the Duet. I'd go for a Classic and one of
the fancy new remotes (which are great).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread iPhone

CreativeAnto;447859 Wrote: 
> Could there be a problem if I have had existing Wi-Fi issues in my
> home... I purchased Apple Airport Express a few months back to stream my
> iTunes library of music to my Rotel Hi-Fi and it never worked
> successfully. Could I have similar issues with Duet..?? Or is
> Transporter really the only real viable solution ?
> 
> Thanks again for all your advice great to hear from fellow Rotel
> users I love my system... but really do want to have the choice of
> either listening to a new album on single CD or flicking through my
> library at the touch of a button.
> 
> Anthony

Hello Anthony and welcome to the Forum. If you have the money, I would
say go for the Transporter. It is top shelf equipment.

As for WiFi issues, 90 percent of the time reception issues are caused
by poor choice of access point location. The access point location needs
to be what is best for providing the best overall coverage and not what
is easiest or closest to the PC/Cable Modem/Router for setting up the
WAP. And yes part of the idea behind WiFi is to remove the issues of
running CAT5 to hard to reach places. But if the WAP isn't setup
correctly or optimized, then one ends up back where one started in
needing to run CAT5! I feel it makes more sense spending the time (and
some times money) to make one CAT5 or Internet Cable run to the optimum
place for ones WAP so that no other work needs done and no other cables
need to be pulled because the WiFi was done correctly the first time. 

Last but not least, if you enjoy music as much as I do, it could be
well worth the trouble it would take to run CAT5 from the server to a
Transporter. Another solution could be to build and place a server right
where the Transporter will be located. Bet there is an old unused PC or
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread CreativeAnto

Aurumer;447855 Wrote: 
> If you don't mind using your PC as a server you will be just fine with a
> wireless router (or lan cable) and a squeezebox classic or duet. I had
> this setup for over a year together with a rotel ra-06 an rcd-06. Sound
> quality of the SB classic is slight below the rcd-06 but very good.
> If you want something more, like me today, you could buy the
> transporter. The improvement in sound was very impressive with the above
> mentioned setup and will be more if you buy even better equipment in the
> future (I am going to buy a Yamaha A-S2000 or something similar the next
> days).
> 
> You can control the music playing on your stereo with the remote
> control or with the web interface on your computer.

Could there be a problem if I have had existing Wi-Fi issues in my
home... I purchased Apple Airport Express a few months back to stream my
iTunes library of music to my Rotel Hi-Fi and it never worked
successfully. Could I have similar issues with Duet..?? Or is
Transporter really the only real viable solution ?

Thanks again for all your advice great to hear from fellow Rotel
users I love my system... but really do want to have the choice of
either listening to a new album on single CD or flicking through my
library at the touch of a button.

Anthony


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread Aurumer

If you don't mind using your PC as a server you will be just fine with a
wireless router (or lan cable) and a squeezebox classic or duet. I had
this setup for over a year together with a rotel ra-06 an rcd-06. Sound
quality of the SB classic is slight below the rcd-06 but very good.
If you want something more, like me today, you could buy the
transporter. The improvement in sound was very impressive with the above
mentioned setup and will be more if you buy even better equipment in the
future (I am going to buy a Yamaha A-S2000 or something similar the next
days).

You can control the music playing on your stereo with the remote
control or with the web interface on your computer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread Ozz

I love my Transporter and consider it one of the best components in my
system. Having all of my music at the tip of my fingers (via Iphone
ipeng)has been the single most useful thing I have ever done with the
system. So simple even the spouse can do it... err I mean a cavewomen
*snicker* (for those in Europe this is a spin off a well known
commerical)


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2 Channel listening Room:
Transporter, Arcam C31 and Arcam P1 Mono Blocks feeding ATC SCM19s
Cable and interconnects are both Kimber. HP media server with 4TB of
storage connected to the whole house GB network. (in media closet)
Media Room:Sony 70" SXRD, 4 NHT VT-2 Biamped (running all 4 subs) 4 NHT
VS-2. Outlaw 990 6 Yamaha MX-2000 amps 4 NHT SA-2 amps (Sub amps) PS3
with 500GB onboard and 4TB external storage.
Master BR: Sony 56" XBR4 and Yamaha YSP-4000 sound bar fed from media
closet.

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ref: What Should I Buy ?

2009-08-12 Thread CreativeAnto

Hi there people...
I have what I think is a great hi-fi system and I have spent alot of
money over the years investing it in... I have a ROTEL RA-03 PreAmp +
RB-08 Booster Amp, RCD-02 CD Player + RT-06 DAB Tuner plus a Pro-Ject
Debut SE II Turntable with Bowers & Wilkins 603 Floor Speakers (150W per
channel and Bi-Wired). I love my system by increasingly I now listen
to my music on my computer (I'm a graphic designer) through my
Harman+Kardon Soundsticks from iTunes downloads and I have to burn blank
CD's to listen to my music on my main system which means blank CDRs
with black marker titles are strewn all over my living room.

I want a system that will integrate with my current system but deliver
the superior quality sound I have grown used to. I tried the Apple
Airport Express and the resulting quality even after investing in top
quality cabling was very inferior could SqueezeBox Duet or
Transporter be the answer that I'm looking for.

Please feel free to message me back with all your comments and
suggestions.


Yours sincerely,
Anthony MacCarthy
MusicAddict and MacAddict


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