Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tyler_durden;204713 Wrote: > I think I can provide a more detailed description. It's like a bride's > veil has been lifted, and you are the groom, and her warm, moist lips > are waiting for your first kiss. Her ample chest is heaving with > anticipation and you feel a stirring in your nether region... > > TD Well I always knew audiphiles had vivid imaginations. After lifting the veil with such great anticipation, I only hope your system still had some PRaT... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tyler_durden;204713 Wrote: > and you feel a stirring in your nether region... > TD ...at which point the delusion wears off, and you realize the stirring was someone trying to get at your wallet. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Bas Horneman;204697 Wrote: > Nah that won't work. A once off extreme cooling session...aka cryo > treatment will have lasting benefits! ;) After it has been cryoed it is > hard to describe the improvement...but it's like a veil has been lifted. I think I can provide a more detailed description. It's like a bride's veil has been lifted, and you are the groom, and her warm, moist lips are waiting for your first kiss. Her ample chest is heaving with anticipation and you feel a stirring in your nether region... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
> If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have "benificial" > results Nah that won't work. A once off extreme cooling session...aka cryo treatment will have lasting benefits! ;) -- Bas Horneman Bas Horneman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tomjtx;204672 Wrote: > If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have "benificial" > results. :D Does current flow easer in warm materials ? Therefore, like wine, would we not need to find the optimum operating temperature for each component Oo! -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have "benificial" results. Just ask May Belt -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Besides, the SB3 is already super-cool anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Heat increases thermal noise. Thermal noise is audible as hissing in analog circuits. It also contributes to jitter in digital circuits. It also decreases the life of electronic components. The reason radio astronomers use cryogenically cooled amplifiers in their antenna systems is to minimize the thermal noise to effectively improve the S/N ratio of their receivers. The circuits they use use semiconductors that are designed and built to work at cryogenic temperatures. If you cool a "normal" transistor to cryogenic temperatures it will probably stop working until it warms up again (assuming it doesn't get destroyed by the cooling/rewarming processes). TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
All my experience shows that almost all digital audio devices sound better as they warm up. Its actually temperature not time they have been turned on. I've put temperature probes on various chips and tracked the sound with temperature for various CDPs and DACs and they all sound better the hotter the chips get. For each piece of gear there is usually one chip that is the most sensitive to temperature, and its not always the same one. In one DVD player the sensitive chip generated very little heat so it took a long time to warm up, I could accelerate this process dramatically by putting a thermally conductive material between it and the chip next to it which generated much more heat. As a matter of fact I've found that a lot of the tweaking some people do adding "damping material" to their DVD players etc has a far bigger effect because of the thermal insullation increasing the operating temperature than from the vibration damping. Of course this can go too far, at some point things stop working when the temperature gets too high, you want to stay below that point! The SB3 is actually quite good in this regard, it generates a fair amount of heat and has a plastic package which helps keep the temperature up inside. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Pale Blue Ego;204195 Wrote: > Or just mount the whole SB in the freezer... The only problem with that is the oscillator needs to warm up for best performance. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Or just mount the whole SB in the freezer... -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
So much talk about this tweak and that tweak and I never see any mention of cooling. I noticed looking at spec sheets on many DACs (and I'm sure other components as well). Behaving significantly different at different temperatures. Most often the cooler the better the specs. So why not add a Chip Cooler to the DAC of the SB3, SB3+, TP, or TP+ or External DAC? Something like this (they might make smaller ones). http://cgi.ebay.com/Melcor-CP1-4-127-045L-1-Peltier-Chip-w-Heat-Sink-Exch_W0QQitemZ7615343974QQcmdZViewItem I wonder if Bolder ever thought of this. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
