Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-10 Thread jaysung

Hi,
thanx for all the feed back while I have been away. So I think I won't
buy any audiofool sort of cables.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-08 Thread zanash

ErikM;219705 Wrote: 
> Cables all sound the same, so I'd go with radio shack


not totally wrong ...as many cables sound similar ie all copper cables
will have a similar character. Its clear from this post that the poster
has never heard a difference ..which does not mean there is none ..it
just means that "they" have never heard it for whatever reason.

This is dead easy to sort out ...just make up a different set and use
your ears not opionions of someone who may have a hiden agenda or
who has a system with limited resolution or a room that plays old harry
with the sound.  

There is no short cut ...you have to listen and make up your own mind
in the context of the system you have.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-08 Thread EvilTed

I like the AudioQuest King Cobra.
List is $225 for 1m pair XLR.

You can get them on Ebay for $75 - $85 brand new!

And yes, balanced cables with the Transporter sound remarkably better
than regular RCA.

HTH

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-08 Thread ErikM

Cables all sound the same, so I'd go with radio shack


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-08 Thread zanash

I've built several sets of xlr's for various people all with great
results you should be able to build a set that will see off all but
the most exotic for about $100[£50]

you need the following to build a 1m set [any longer just increase the
length as appropriate]

2 x male xlr
2x female xlr
2x 1m jacket 8mm od approx 5mm id..I use polyeurathane tube 
7m of 0.5mm dia 4n [or better] single core silver wire
7m of 0.7mmid ish ptfe sleeve 
misc heat shrink
silver solder

sleeve the silver into the ptfe and cut six lengths of 1.1m, take three
cores mark them with tape or pen 1 2 3,and at the other end  as well !
Then plaite tightly repeat for the second set.  slip the three plaited
cores into the outer sleeve slide the xlr bodies onto the sleeve and
then solder the xlr plugs onto the appropriately trimed cable ends.

The sound of the sets I made out performed the commercial mic cable
version by a very wide marginthey were also cheaper !

I'm happy to make you a set if you contact me via pm


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread tyler_durden

Balanced I/O is best for very long cable runs.  It is unlikely you'd
hear any difference between a balanced and an unbalanced run if it is
only 1m long.  

Save your money.  Moving your speakers 6" will have a bigger effect on
the sound than spending money on expensive/balanced cables.

TD


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread egd

I second opaqueice's & Pat's recommendations.  I own a Transporter and
had XLR cables made using Belden 1800F cable with Neutrik connectors
incl. gold-plated pins.  Couldn't be happier and it didn't cost
anywhere near that typically charged in the audiofool category.  In
fact after being offered $700+ Chord interconnects I offered to buy
them if the store owner could detect which interconnects I was using on
his equipment, but countered that he would have to give them to me if he
couldn't.  No prizes for guessing he didn't put his money where his
mouth was.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread jaysung

Hi Guys,
so, you seem to agree. The calculator on the above referred web site
says that two cables about 3 foot long will set me back $50 or $60.
Which should be less in Euro. If I buy them here.
That puts things into perspective a bit. ;))


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread Deaf Cat

Best to see if you can borrow a couple of different cables, and see for
your self if you prefer one to another :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread Pat Farrell
jaysung wrote:
> easily spend 270 Euro on balanced cables. I think it a bit odd to spend
> as much on two 100cm cables as a SB3 costs. 
> What do you think and which cables can you recommend and why ?

There is no need to spend megaEuros.
Standard microphone cables work fine.

You should be able to find some about $20 a meter.
Which is also about 20 Euro per meter.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread opaqueice

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/balancedaudio/index.htm


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread jaysung

Hi,
I am until now a quite happy new owner of a transporter. My amp is
Marantz PM-11S1 having xlr/symmetric inputs. I heard now that one can
easily spend 270 Euro on balanced cables. I think it a bit odd to spend
as much on two 100cm cables as a SB3 costs. 
What do you think and which cables can you recommend and why ?
The recommendation was Wireworld cables. Anyone heard of them?
For understanding:
As far as I know XLR-cables are carrying two signals being exactly
phase inverted or opposite amplitude. So if a distortion occurs both
signals are being manipulated and the difference is being maintained
exactly the same. So one needs not really fear signal distortion by any
sort of inductive electromagnetics? And that is my microphones are wired
over long distances with symmetric cables. Is that right?


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