Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-13 Thread daFlow


as a follow up: got it rollin by adding the squeezelite option "-W"
(read actual wave headers, ignore format delivered by server) and
switching off Wave conversion by LMS vie C3PO helper. didnt crosscheck,
but i think both is needed.

thanks for your help mate!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread bpa


daFlow wrote: 
> will do.
> 
> ..found out even cd rip's (44.1k16bits wave with cue sheet) get
> converted, so squeezelite seems to refuse wave at all. will fix that!
> thanks!

cue sheets are a bit special but you should be able to send audio
without conversion to Flac.  Be careful when reading the player.source
log -  conversion only take place when you see a command line log with
the various application such as flac and sox with full paths detailed.
This can seem to be in the midst of other conversion attempts and so be
confusing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread daFlow


will do.

..found out even cd rip's (44.1k16bits wave with cue sheet) get
converted, so squeezelite seems to refuse wave at all. will fix that!
thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread bpa


daFlow wrote: 
> thanks for your input; it seems to come down to LMS not being
> WAV-native?
No - LMS can understand WAV just that some more recent additions 
(higher res, 32 bit setc may not be fully supported by players.  If
format is not natioveky supoprtred by a player then LMS has to convert
but if no convert rules defined - LMS doesn;t know how to convert.

> thinking about it, i'll try a different OS on the player. Maybe the
> dietpi squeezelite / ffmpeg is troublesome. Volumio has a squeezelite
> plugin and did play wave native if i recall correct.

WAV is package format not an audio encoding - supporting WAV does not
means it supports all audio encoding within that packaging.

Your first issue is to determine what formats does squeezelite say it
natively supports (i.e. DAC capability is not enough but also audio
subsystem reporting back to squeezelite).  Enable squeezelite logging to
find the formats.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread daFlow


> C3Po does some weird/clever stuff and anybody using it should post on
> the c3po plugin thread to get authors attention

i started trying c3po after i found out via the log that my waves get
converted to flac on playback (and that fails with stream thingy); and
wanted to switch conversion off in c3po then. Cant send pcm wave to my
players with that neither; i'll ask there then!

> Are you sure it is a PCM file and not something like DXD ?

yes, those are my pro tools mixes, bounced as 96k32bit floating point,
which is my only 32bit option in pro tools.

thanks for your input; it seems to come down to LMS not being
WAV-native?

thinking about it, i'll try a different OS on the player. Maybe the
dietpi LMS / ffmpeg is troublesome. Volumio has a squeezelite plugin and
did play wave native if i recall correct.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread bpa


daFlow wrote: 
> thanks that was very helpful indeed. 
> 
> Have to catch up on my c3po transcoding now; i get converted flac files
> (sox wav-flc commands) out of my wavefiles when trying to initiate
> playback, and i seem to have some weirdness there ("unexpected end of
> stream"-stuff).
"unexpected edn of stream" usually measn one part of the transcode is
not working but since you are using c3po - it could be something else.

C3Po does some weird/clever stuff and anybody using it should post on
the c3po plugin thread to get authors attention.

> 
> - LMS does not read/scan/import/playback PCM WAVE little endian 32bit
> floating point files (s32fl)?
> 
Pobably - floating point PCM is a very odd format. Are you sure it is a
PCM file and not something like DXD ?
> 
> - a general PCM WAVE format question: 
> VLC tells me my file is CODEC: PCM S24 LE (s24l), bits per sample: 32 
> -> i was thinking that S24LE means "signed, little endian, 24 bits", so
> how come the 32 bits?
> 
A question for the VLC forums.

> 
> - LMS converts wave to flac for network traffic reasons, or does LMS
> know that my sparky board - allo Piano DAC isnt capable of handling the
> 32 bit wave?

LMS conversion to flac is usually for bandwidth but also it means more
time can be buffered in player and so result in less chance of
rebuffering.

IIRC 32bit wav fixed point is handled. Floating point is unusual - I
recall there have been a few time it shas comes rectnly and they seem to
related to DXD and user conversion of DXD file confused LMS. (example
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97046-Announce-Squeezelite-a-small-headless-squeezeplay-emulator-for-linux-(alsa-only)&p=919370&viewfull=1#post919370
)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-08 Thread daFlow


thanks that was very helpful indeed. 

Have to catch up on my c3po transcoding now; i get converted flac files
(sox wav-flc commands) out of my wavefiles when trying to initiate
playback, and i seem to have some weirdness there ("unexpected end of
stream"-stuff).

allow me to fire some questions before doing my reading :)

- LMS does not read/scan/import/playback PCM WAVE little endian 32bit
floating point files (s32fl)?

- a general PCM WAVE format question: 
VLC tells me my file is CODEC: PCM S24 LE (s24l), bits per sample: 32 
-> i was thinking that S24LE means "signed, little endian, 24 bits", so
how come the 32 bits?

- LMS converts wave to flac for network traffic reasons, or does LMS
know that my sparky board - allo Piano DAC isnt capable of handling the
32 bit wave?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 32bit WAVE files Little endian do not play on LMS - any tips?

2019-01-07 Thread bpa


It seems to imply that either
1. LMS has not understood the file type  (drill down on the the track in
WebGUI to see what format LMS thinks the file is )
2. LMS does no have any rule to convert the format suitable for a player
(i.e. sox) 

Enable logging player.source to INFO to get a log of how LMS is trying
to process the file.



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