Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
aubuti;629862 Wrote: > Yes, but not where the OP lives. And that's who asked the question. I didn't know that. Thanks. -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl for Android darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
darrenyeats;629849 Wrote: > Spotify is available for Squeezebox now. Yes, but not where the OP lives. And that's who asked the question. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
Spotify is available for Squeezebox now. -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl for Android darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
I like Rhapsody, and use it a lot. $10/month unlimited. They're streaming at 192kbps.It is what it is, but I like it to listen to new albums before buying, or to re-discover old music that I'd forgotten.Great service. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
mashley;629808 Wrote: > Anyone Interested in putting forward some signatures to petition Pandora > to finally Re-Code to a higher bitrate? In case you weren't aware, they already have their Pandora One service, which streams 192kbps. It's a subscription service for $36/year. The drawback is that it only works with their web-based player. Supposedly they've been promising Logitech (and presumably Sonos et al.) an API that will let it work with other players, but so far nothing tangible. Alternatives? It depends a lot where you are. I believe Spotify streams at a high bitrate, but it's not available in the US yet. Rhapsody does 192kbps. There are various internet radio stations that do 192kbps or better, including Radio Paradise. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
Thanks guys. I know that Pandora is compressed to hell anyway, I just wanted to field some opinions on the matter, will check the links out later. Anyone Interested in putting forward some signatures to petition Pandora to finally Re-Code to a higher bitrate? Is there an alternative to Pandora? Nelson Image - Push Pull 55w Tube Amp (Black gates, Tants, Audio Note and V-Caps.) Behringer Upsampler (really! I tried it on Lucasz Fikus' recomendation and decided he was right this thing is bloody good!) Audio GD Ref-7 Dac Quad Esl 63's -- mashley mashley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
mashley;629578 Wrote: > When listening to Pandora on my Transporter via mysqueezebox.com > If I have a look at the the song details, just above the "bitrate" and > "file format" there is a display named "volume adjustment" usually it's > saying something like -4.4db sometimes it'll say -1.2db it changes from > song to song. > > I'm kind of concerned because turning the volume down digitally via the > controller truncates bits, so is this compressing/degrading the audio > stream in a similar way? For all of the reasons stated above, you are worrying unnecessarily. 1) 24-bit digital level control does not destructively "truncate bits" and sounds fine, even at large levels of attenuation 2) Pandora is low quality anyway -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
aubuti;629581 Wrote: > Also, let's not forget that Pandora is streaming at 128kbps. In that > case, losing bits because of attenuated gain would be the least of your > worries when it comes to sound quality. Especialy when the volume operates in 24 bits, you wont loose bits, only get slightly worse s/n ratio, thats going to be completely masked by mp3 artifacts :p at 128kbps -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
Given that most RG values are quite small (4-6db), I don't think one should lose much sleep over it. IMO, the whole "bit truncation" issue...except for high levels of digital attenuation is nothing more than an audio boogeyman. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
Also, let's not forget that Pandora is streaming at 128kbps. In that case, losing bits because of attenuated gain would be the least of your worries when it comes to sound quality. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Automatic Volume Adjustment?
You are seeing the "Replay Gain" data that has been encoded into the tracks. This info can be used to make albums and/or tracks all about the same loudness, thus avoiding the problem of having to turn up the volume for one album, and then turn it down for another to achieve the desired listening level. Not to be confused with compression, or the like. Here's a Wiki link that explains it in greater detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replay_Gain It hurts nothing, but if you don't want Replay Gain, then simply turn it off in your SB server settings.It's good exercise to constantly get up to fiddle with volume when playing multiple albums or tracks. :) -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87524 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
