Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
tank121;627504 Wrote: > The on the wall model is out of the race although excellent no up to the > standard of the Mentor Menuets. To throw a spanner into the works > listened to the Dali 5 floorstanders which again was a slight upgrade > from the Menuets. The demo provide by the Home Cinema Centre in > Edinburgh was excellent apart from the source was Sonos! > > Help choosing between the Menuets and Ikon 5 floorstanders please, > Chris there said the 5 would be a good fit for the garage conversion 15 > x 8. The only advice I can possibly give you is to listen to the speakers in the room when it is finished and choose then. Nobody can tell what any speakers will sound like in a room that doesn't even exist yet If HCC are any good they will let you try them at home. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
The on the wall model is out of the race although excellent no up to the standard of the Mentor Menuets. To throw a spanner into the works listened to the Dali 5 floorstanders which again was a slight upgrade from the Menuets. The demo provide by the Home Cinema Centre in Edinburgh was excellent apart from the source was Sonos! Help choosing between the Menuets and Ikon 5 floorstanders please, Chris there said the 5 would be a good fit for the garage conversion 15 x 8. -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Going to demo the 3 contenders next weekend in Edinburgh your thoughts, experiences please. Remember this is for my garage conversion 15ft x 8ft http://www.dali.dk/display_content.php/INT/Loudspeakers.html/322/2556 Stand mounts. http://www.dali.dk/display_content.php/INT/Loudspeakers.html/322/2562 Wall mounts http://www.dali.dk/display_content.php/INT/Loudspeakers.html/172/2371 On the wall or stand mounted. Are the stand mounts (top ones) the clear winners on papper ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
I'll still torn about these two speakers from Dali. I can get the IKon 2 on the wall model for £549.00 and the Menuet for £749 The main advantage i can see for the Menuet is that it can be shelf mounted too. (if we ever move). Below are the specs Menuet on the left. Your views please Frequency range (+/- 3dB) [Hz] 59 - 25.000 58 - 30.000 - Sensitivity (2,83 V/1 m) [dB] 86,088,5- Nominal impedance [ohms]4 6 - Maximum SPL [dB]105 109 - Recommended amplifier power [W] 20 - 10025 - 150- Crossover frequencies 3.000 2.600/14.000- Hybrid tweeter module, Super high frequency driver - 17 x 45 mm Ribbon - Hybrid tweeter module, High frequency driver- 28 mm Soft textile dome- High frequency driver 1 x 28 mm Soft textile dome - - Low frequency driver- 1 x 6.5" Wood fibre cone- Enclosure type Bass reflex Closed box - Bass reflex tuning frequency [Hz] 63,0- - Connection input(s) Single wire Connection output(s)Single wire Recommended placement Stand Shelf On-Wall On-Wall Loudspeaker typeFront Rear SurroundFront Rear Surround Magnetic shielding No - - Max loudspeaker dimensions incl. base and grille (HxWxD) [mm] 250 X 150 X 230 375 X 272 X 146 - Loudspeaker weight [kg] 4,1 5,6 - Accessories includedManual Rubber "bumpers"Manual Rubber "bumpers" Rubber pads Extra DALI logo-badge Optional accessoriesWall bracket Accessories includedManual Rubber "bumpers"Manual Rubber "bumpers" Rubber pads Extra DALI logo-badge Optional accessoriesWall bracket -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
The garage is attached to the kitchen which feeds into the dining and then the lounge and then the entrance hall. In here is the consumer unit, so is what you proposed going to be an expensive and messy job. ? Lighting and power sockets already exist in the garage. Like the look of these wallplates http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-13a-2g-dp-switched-socket-brushed-chrome-faceplate-white-insert-pk5/38549 Maybe some infrared matching dimmer switches ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
tank121;624659 Wrote: > Our garage conversion commences on 2nd May. > > There is existing electrics in there will be having new wiring for new > lighting etc. > > What should I be looking at to isolate the power for my audio equipment > from the rest of the room ? Fused spur ? Yes - a spur or ring going directly back to the consumer unit, on its own breaker. Alternatively, a seperate small consumer unit going to the meter would be even better... your sparks will advise what is possible (just don't tell him you are concerned about sound quality!). If you can get unswitched mains sockets fitted that would be good (MK type are best - see here: http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-2-gang-unswiitched-socket/41714 ) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Our garage conversion commences on 2nd May. There is existing electrics in there will be having new wiring for new lighting etc. What should I be looking at to isolate the power for my audio equipment from the rest of the room ? Fused spur ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
I don't think the subwoofer will be an immediate purchase so will Dali Mentor Menuet be a better option ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Magnepan has some wall mounts - The MMG's would probably be great for $600 a pair -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Eriko;622558 Wrote: > Also, the ribbon provides more dispersions and a larger "sweet spot". It is the other way around. Ribbons and magnetostats tend to sharp spot more, thats why you see many of them with a kind of mechanical attachement to spread the sounds. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Eriko;622558 Wrote: > ... You don´t have to have the hearing of a 16 year old, to hear the > ribbon tweeter. I´m 50, took the tweeter unit out of the cabinet and > only unplugged the dome tweeter. I could easily hear sound coming from > the ribbon tweeter, even harmonics from a female singers. Also, the > ribbon provides more dispersions and a larger "sweet spot". > > ... I must remember that irony doesn't travel well on the Internet :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
I have the Mentor 2. Before that I had the Ikon 6. Love them, maybe a little on the bright side, but use the Iguz eq plugin to reduce the 3.500-10.000 frequency range, along with the bass management. You don´t have to have the hearing of a 16 year old, to hear the ribbon tweeter. I´m 50, took the tweeter unit out of the cabinet and only unplugged the dome tweeter. I could easily hear sound coming from the ribbon tweeter, even harmonics from a female singers. Also, the ribbon provides more dispersions and a larger "sweet spot". But with the wall-mount, you will need a sub-woofer. I use the Rel T line. They´re compact, fast and musical -- Eriko Eriko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
tank121;622349 Wrote: > Any preference out of the two ? sorry I was looking at the wrong ones... How good is your top end hearing (ie over 14k?) - if it's as good as a 16-year old, go with the Ikon and get the benefit of its ribbon tweeter. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Any preference out of the two ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
tank121;621989 Wrote: > Were soon to commence work on our garage conversion (see my other posts) > the resulting living room will be 15ft x 8ft (separate storage area 8x5) > I now conncluded my Dynaudio floorstanders are to be sold. > > I'm looking into wall mounting speakers from Dali and they will be > mounted on the dividing stud wall. > > So has anyone had any experience of the Dali Ikon On Wall Mk2 speakers > ? > > http://www.dali.dk/display_content.phtml/322/2562 > > Any thoughts on the specs ? > > or the Dali Mentor Menuet > > http://www.dali.dk/display_content.php/INT/Loudspeakers.html/172/2371 > > > Thanks No idea what they sound like but the Ikon's seem quite easy to mount... no need for soffits... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers
Anyone got any view opinions on those models mentioned ? Any other suggestions ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86689 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
