Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
DCtoDaylight;480952 Wrote: > ... the next time I need an optical cable, I think I go with the Blue > Jeans one ( www.bluejeanscable.com ) as I respect their direct > no-nonsense approach. ... > > As always, YMMV! Cheers, Dave Dave, your sentiments echo my thoughts; I've never had a bad Blue Jeans cable. I may have had others that sounded better for me, but Blue Jeans are at the very least a base line and in most cases better than average. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
I have had bad luck with a spring loaded, round connector (ie not form fitting), glass toslink cable made by Dayton. The fit is sloppy, and won't support the cable's own weight, resulting in intermittent signal loss When it does work, I haven't been able to hear any difference between it, and cheap plastic fibre cables. While I haven't tried it, the next time I need an optical cable, I think I go with the Blue Jeans one ( www.bluejeanscable.com ) as I respect their direct no-nonsense approach. In fact my home brew coax cables are built of the same components as theirs, and I've never found anything that sounded different or better. As always, YMMV! Cheers, Dave -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal to Noise Ratio, and a Bandwidth from DC to Daylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
Nice, a bit under $5 with greater than 95% 5-star rating for over 200 users. I'll definitely pick up one of those. Even if it ends up taking a backseat, you can't go wrong for the price. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
I use one of these http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022901&p_id=2764&seq=1&format=2 to connect my HDX-1000 to my transporter. Works for me. You could get one, then ABX it with your existing cables to see if it is good enough for you. -- Grahame Grahame's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
In attempt to bring the topic back around to relevant information, let's revisit the OP and the query I had: In your own opinion, if you had to use a optical TOSLINK, which cable works best (for anyone but Pat)? Regardless of online documentation from waring vendors, in your experience, does glass vs. synthetic and single strand vs. bundled smaller strands provide better signal and life expectancy? In your system do you find that spring-loaded or form fitting connecters are BEST or more convenient? Personally, I [i] do have a $20 Optical TOSLINK that required a lot of force to inset - more than I'd like to provide - and does sound different than my Zu Digital Coax. I'm able to hook both to the SB3 and DAC and select between the two, and I prefer to lessen that difference by improving the optical signal/connection/etc. Thanks again and ALL personal experience is welcome. For those concerned about the amount of electrons used in response to this query, I will refund them -- I've got Roll-Over Electrons! -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
kphinney wrote: >> Its a freeking cable. Spend $20 on it and be happy. >> ... > > You couldn't just say "I like [insert the cable you prefer here]." > Instead you had to go thru all of that and top it off by calling my > question "stupid" and replies being a "waste"? Do me a favor then and > stop wasting time on my requests for assistance. I did. Its a freeking cable. Spend $20 and be happy. Or, if you like to be more happy, spend $100. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
pfarrell;480921 Wrote: > kphinney wrote: > > pfarrell;480896 Wrote: > >> There is no best cable. > >> There is no best microphone. > >> there is no best speaker. > >> . > > > > Gee Pat, your cynicism is beginning to show thru in your posts. > > > > When anyone asks for an opinion on the -best- can we stipulate for > all > > future discussions that "best" is acceptable as a short form of the > > subjective opinion inquiring to " > > no, its a stupid question. > > Its a freeking cable. Spend $20 on it and be happy. > ... > Just because every forum, on every topic, in the whole Internet gets > "what is the best FOO" question all the damn time, doesn't mean its > worth wasting electrons answering it. > > -- > Pat Farrell > http://www.pfarrell.com/ You couldn't just say "I like [insert the cable you prefer here]." Instead you had to go thru all of that and top it off by calling my question "stupid" and replies being a "waste"? Do me a favor then and stop wasting time on my requests for assistance. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
kphinney wrote: > pfarrell;480896 Wrote: >> There is no best cable. >> There is no best microphone. >> there is no best speaker. >> . > Gee Pat, your cynicism is beginning to show thru in your posts. > > When anyone asks for an opinion on the -best- can we stipulate for all > future discussions that "best" is acceptable as a short form of the > subjective opinion inquiring to " no, its a stupid question. Best according to what criteria? Without a budget and knowledge of what you are trying to do, and what else you have its useless. Is a Shure SM58 better than a vintage Telefunken/Neuman M1? Sometimes, sometimes not. Do Quads sound great? you bet for a lot of music. Then why doesn't Pat have some? because they flunk WAF. And because sometimes he listens to music that doesn't do well on Quads. Its a freeking cable. Spend $20 on it and be happy. If you want the best cable that you can measure with your oscilloscope and signal generator, then you already know the criteria that are to be used. Just because every forum, on every topic, in the whole Internet gets "what is the best FOO" question all the damn time, doesn't mean its worth wasting electrons answering it. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
pfarrell;480896 Wrote: > kphinney wrote: > > While I was hoping to hit on an online vendor and give them my CC, I > > don't think there is a consummate way to choose the best cable > without > > hearing it myself. > > There is no best cable. > There is no best microphone. > there is no best speaker. > . > > -- > Pat Farrell > http://www.pfarrell.com/ Gee Pat, your cynicism is beginning to show thru in your posts. When anyone asks for an opinion on the -best- can we stipulate for all future discussions that "best" is acceptable as a short form of the subjective opinion inquiring to "-that which you feel is superior in your system with your speakers, in your room, listening to your favorite music, at your preferred volume, while on your continent and with your choice of beverage, regardless of hair color, age, race, creed or Coriolis effect-"? ;-) -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
kphinney wrote: > While I was hoping to hit on an online vendor and give them my CC, I > don't think there is a consummate way to choose the best cable without > hearing it myself. There is no best cable. There is no best microphone. there is no best speaker. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
riffer;480882 Wrote: > I bought a 25' one from Blue Jeans Cables, and I am happy with it: > > http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/digital-audio/index.htm Funny, I was just reading their website and realizing that [like everything else] each manufacturer claims their way is best. i.e.: Blue Jeans claim that a single synthetic fiber is better than bundled glass. Impact Acoustics says it's the other way around and that synthetic will degrade with time, yet, Kimber Kable's prefer synthetic over glass because it doesn't produce micro-fractures from slight bending over time. Yet again, Audioholics (http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/toslink-interconnect-history-basics) claim > Quality TOSLINK assemblies should be made from multiple fibers of a very > small diameter. While I was hoping to hit on an online vendor and give them my CC, I don't think there is a consummate way to choose the best cable without hearing it myself. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
I bought a 25' one from Blue Jeans Cables, and I am happy with it: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/digital-audio/index.htm -- riffer riffer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13459 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
You will get less signal loss over glass but at less than 30m it won't make much of a difference. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
Thanks All. I'll look into it and try to decide. Any other input is greatly appreciated. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
>From my experience the best results were obtained with this glass cable http://www.wireworldcable.com/products/55.html It's now on a closeout price, I think it has a terrific value : http://www.thecableco.com/product.php?id=550 PS : We compared it in three systems, ranging from $2 to $5, and it was the clear winner, on the same level with the Audioquest optilink-5, that you can also get for a very good price: http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablintr&1261457971&/Audioquest-Optilink5-%281m%29-tosl -- loserica loserica's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
I advise some well-made, serious, yet not expensive Mark Grant cables : http://markgrantcables.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=40_17 -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
agillis;480518 Wrote: > I have been using a Changzhou Yafei cable. $6.99 but it's very well > made. s/pdif is all digital so as long as the connection is good you > will get good sound. You don't really need to be to picky. What about long term transmission? Don't non-glass cables degrade over time? -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical TOSlink opinion - which to buy??
I have been using a Changzhou Yafei cable. $6.99 but it's very well made. s/pdif is all digital so as long as the connection is good you will get good sound. You don't really need to be to picky. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
