RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Bhavna Vyas]

No problem.
Bhavna

> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:41:22 +0900
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
> From: ahir...@gmail.com
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> 
> Hi Bhavna,
> I've just got. Thanks a lot!
> 
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> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Bhavna Vyas  wrote:
> > Hi Akira,
> > I do.  Consider it winging its way to you now.
> >
> > Bhavna Vyas
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:00:15 +0900
> >> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
> >> From: ahir...@gmail.com
> >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> >>
> >> Hi, still have one?
> >>
> >> If so, let me try it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Akira HIROSE
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Brian Butterworth
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hi folks,
> >> > I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
> >> > like
> >> > one.
> >> > --
> >> >
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Akira HIROSE]

Hi Bhavna,
I've just got. Thanks a lot!

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Bhavna Vyas  wrote:
> Hi Akira,
> I do.  Consider it winging its way to you now.
>
> Bhavna Vyas
>
>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:00:15 +0900
>> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>> From: ahir...@gmail.com
>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>
>> Hi, still have one?
>>
>> If so, let me try it.
>>
>> --
>> Akira HIROSE
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Brian Butterworth
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi folks,
>> > I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
>> > like
>> > one.
>> > --
>> >
>> > Brian Butterworth
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

[Matt Hammond]

As the banner graphic on Wave points out: its a "preview" - in my  
understanding that means it is not even something they'd consider calling  
a beta.


My gut feeling is that performance issues are as likely to be down to the  
client implementation as the servers - I think I'm noticing gradually  
worse slowdown the longer I use a session in a tab. Also look at your CPU  
usage when, for example, you use the history "playback" function, or open  
a particularly complex or long lived Wave.



Matt

On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:15:59 -, Ian Forrester  
 wrote:



Hi All,

I was at Social Media Café Manchester yesterday and there was a session  
about Wave. I and Paul Robertson stated the fact that the "wave" people  
are there seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut  
implementation of what's possible with the wave protocol.


http://search.twitter.com/search?q=&ands=wave&phrase=&ors=¬s=&tag=smc_mcr&lang=all&from=&to=&ref=&near=&within=15&units=mi&since=2009-11-30&until=2009-12-02&rpp=15


So during the rest of the discussion and reading this -  
http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx,  
I'm wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers?


What do others think?

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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Bhavna Vyas]

Hi Akira,
I do.  Consider it winging its way to you now.

Bhavna Vyas

> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:00:15 +0900
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
> From: ahir...@gmail.com
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> 
> Hi, still have one?
> 
> If so, let me try it.
> 
> --
> Akira HIROSE
> 
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Brian Butterworth
>  wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like
> > one.
> > --
> >
> > Brian Butterworth
> >
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Akira HIROSE]

Hi, still have one?

If so, let me try it.

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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Brian Butterworth
 wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like
> one.
> --
>
> Brian Butterworth
>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

[Dave Crossland]

2009/12/2 Stephen Jolly :
>
>
> I'm also not convinced [of] the performance issues with the Wave beta

I expect this to work like multiplayer deathmatch game server services.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

[Stephen Jolly]

On 2 Dec 2009, at 13:15, Ian Forrester wrote:
> So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - 
> http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx,
>  I'm wondered if Google had putout wave too early for consumers?

I can't say I agree with Andy Chesters - Google announced the open source, open 
standard nature of Wave right back when the project itself was made public at 
Google I/O 2009:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/went-walkabout-brought-back-google-wave.html

No desire to "to hide the fact that the technology is not exclusive to Google" 
that I can see.

I'm also not convinced that the performance issues with the Wave beta are 
mainly (or even slightly) due to the fact that all the current Wave servers are 
running in Google's data centres.  Surely the spread of Wave servers to the far 
corners of the Internet will make things worse, as bandwidths fall and latency 
rises between the servers participating in a given Wave?  Waves with 
participants who all use the same server might see a performance increase I 
guess, all other things being equal.

S


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

[Dave Crossland]

2009/12/2 Ian Forrester :
>
>
> seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut
> implementation of what's possible with the wave protocol.

Right; the protocol seems sound enough, and I expect that (like
Novell) it will get picked up by projects that would have had to have
done the engineering on such a protocol themselves.

But there are relatively few of those projects, and so I don't expect
it will be soon that we see anything 'wow'-worth out of Wave. I think
it will get subsumed by projects that use it and we will know those by
their own names and indeed may come to know Wave itself by those
names; like people who use the web and that the web _is_ the
internet...

> wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers?

As Scot said, its hardly had a consumer release. Anyone who is
involved in projects that might make use of such technology have heard
about it, understand it, and probably by now have a beta account.
What's the fuss? :-)
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

[Scot McSweeney-Roberts]

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 13:15, Ian Forrester  wrote:

>
> So during the rest of the discussion and reading this -
> http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx,
> I'm wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers?
>
>
>From the post
"Had Google have waited maybe a year or two longer, and launched a slicker
product,"

I think Wave would never have been a slick product at release, no matter how
long they kept it either closed completely or in developer only preview. Had
they waited longer it might have been a bit quicker and a bit less buggy,
but it would still have left a lot of people confused. In order to be a
great product, it's going to need a lot of people giving it it a try and
telling Google what works and what doesn't. Which means releasing a half
baked product to relatively few people and telling them from the start that
it's half baked and that their comments and criticisms are needed - which is
what the Wave team have done.

Thinking about it, I would challenge that it has been put out to
"consumers". When Wave is open to everyone without an invite, then it will
have been released to consumers. At the moment, most of the people using are
more early adopter than average consumer.

Scot

Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Matt Hammond]

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:03:27 -, Alia Sheikh   
wrote:


Once people become familiar with wave then protocols and accepted  
behaiviour will emerge, but for now, I'm finding the "Oh I added you to  
a work/holiday/pictures of my cat! wave" phenomenon irritating as well
Is it possible to remove yourself from a wave and make it so people  
can't add you back on?


Not yet - they've not added a 'remove participant from wave' feature yet  
(hence its still preview).


You can however select the wave in your inbox and click 'trash' from the  
buttons at the top. My understanding is that the difference between that  
and the 'archive' button is that an archived wave will pop back into you  
inbox if someone edits it; but a trashed one will not.


I guess I would have expected some sort of 'you have been added to this  
wave, do you accept?' notification and a notification to all other users  
that you got added


I think you have to think about it more like a wiki, where items in your  
inbox are ones you want to hand. Ones you archive are ones you want to  
know about changes to; and ones you trash you are no longer interested in.  
Being added as a participiant is therefore kinda (not totally) like being  
sent a link to that wiki page with the invitation to edit it.



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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Lee Ball]

Anyone know what the rules are to upload a photo for your profile pic.

I've got a small 50x46 pixel jpg file but it just won't accept it:

One or more of the files you selected could not be uploaded. They may be
too large or not valid image files. Please check the files and your
internet connection and then try again.

I tired larger and worked my way down, then got bored.

> 2009/11/27 Tim Dobson 
>
>
> Brian Butterworth wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
>> like one.
>
>
> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
>
> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.
>
>
> It can be really nice if you have a few friends who also have it,
> conversations move from just being gimmicky fun to actually being quite
> engaging if you start to use its multimedia features. However, I'm unsure
> as
> to its usefulness as a business tool just yet - I'm open to persuasion
> though as long as it's actually justifiable ;)
>


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Alia Sheikh]

Its worse because you know the rules of email at the outset before you 
start playing.
Once people become familiar with wave then protocols and accepted 
behaiviour will emerge, but for now, I'm finding the "Oh I added you to 
a work/holiday/pictures of my cat! wave" phenomenon irritating as well
Is it possible to remove yourself from a wave and make it so people 
can't add you back on?
I guess I would have expected some sort of 'you have been added to this 
wave, do you accept?' notification and a notification to all other users 
that you got added

Alia

Stephen Jolly wrote:

On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote:
  

It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave
should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous
unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!)
It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to.

In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share
everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let
alone personal private conversations.



Surely email has the same issue?  Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding 
emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there.  I'm not 
saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely 
the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies?

S


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Stephen Jolly]

On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote:
> It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave
> should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous
> unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!)
> It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to.
> 
> In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share
> everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let
> alone personal private conversations.

Surely email has the same issue?  Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding 
emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there.  I'm not 
saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely 
the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies?

S


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Mo McRoberts]

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:20, Ant Miller  wrote:

> Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly
> robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use
> it for work dialogues.

I’d recommend waiting for a self-hosted server for “proper” use. I’d
consider Google’s server to be more of a proof-of-concept than
anything useful for real purposes.

> On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it
> might well be an excellent tool.  Maybe.  Not sure.

If the UX was cleaned up and streamlined a bit, then yeah, could
supplant mailing lists/discussion groups to an extent.

M.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Ant Miller]

I've found it a bit problematic- there's nothing wrong with the day to
day interaction, and the system though flakey is pretty good
considering what it's trying to do.  However, the 'contriibutor
managment' model is really bad for a lot of situations.

It's really hard to find other users in Wave.
It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave
should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous
unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!)
It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to.

In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share
everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let
alone personal private conversations.

Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly
robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use
it for work dialogues.

On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it
might well be an excellent tool.  Maybe.  Not sure.

a

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Juergen Hoehn
 wrote:
> Hi, still one left?
>
> if so, I'd go for a a try.
>
> Juergen
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson  wrote:
>> Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
>>> like one.
>>
>> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
>>
>> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.
>>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Lee Ball]

One in the post.

> Hi, still one left?
>
> if so, I'd go for a a try.
>
> Juergen
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson  wrote:
>> Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
>>> like one.
>>
>> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
>>
>> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.
>>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Juergen Hoehn]

Hi, still one left?

if so, I'd go for a a try.

Juergen

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson  wrote:
> Brian Butterworth wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
>> like one.
>
> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
>
> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.
>
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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Andrew Bowden]

From: Tim Dobson
> Brian Butterworth wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you 
> > would like one.
> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.

Can't say it's bowled me over - I think it's been rather overhyped.  And
ultimately if it's to replace email or IM, it needs to be far simpler.
My mum wouldn't have a clue. 

Another tool in the arsenal - that I can see.

14 invites by the way if you want one - drop me a note :)

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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Christopher Woods]

 




2009/11/27 Tim Dobson 


Brian Butterworth wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
> like one.


I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.

I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. 
 

It can be really nice if you have a few friends who also have it,
conversations move from just being gimmicky fun to actually being quite
engaging if you start to use its multimedia features. However, I'm unsure as
to its usefulness as a business tool just yet - I'm open to persuasion
though as long as it's actually justifiable ;)

Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[vijay chopra]

Another 16 here if anyone wants one.

2009/11/27 Tim Dobson 

> Brian Butterworth wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
> > like one.
>
> I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.
>
> I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.
>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Tim Dobson]

Brian Butterworth wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would
> like one.

I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome.

I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[tyronne gabriel]

I wouldnt mind one if they're still free.

Thanks

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Lee Ball  wrote:
> If they're going I'd like one to take a gander.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

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If they're going I'd like one to take a gander.

Thanks


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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Tania Teixeira]

Hi Brian.
 
What are the invited for?
 
Thanks
Tania



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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Dave Cross]

On 09/10/09 20:33, Gary Kirk wrote:

Nobody who gets invites from Google is getting invites of their own yet.


Not true. The 100,000 people who got invitations on October 1st all had 
8 invitations to give away (presumably on the basis that a communication 
tool is pretty useless unless you know other people using it).


As I understand it, the 800,000 people who got those "second level" 
invitations didn't get any other invitations to pass on.


And, no, I don't have any invitations left.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Tim Dobson]

Rupert Watson wrote:

Tim

If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that
is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel
for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it
on the commute. I got quite excited at some points.


Uh, yeah, I should. I've got a long train journey on thursday. I might 
well follow your lead



As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for
us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and
hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like
this. 


I really hope it works out for you.

It's possible it will grow on me, but at the moment I
was just *bored* by it from what I've seen of it so far.

I kind of like how I have an email client, IM client and a wiki and am a 
bit uncomfortable and nonplussed by them all being put in one place.


When there is a native, free software application which isn't as 
resource hungry as the AJAX *abuse* going on there I might feel a bit 
more encouraged.


We'll see what happens, but to be honest, if it was a choice between a 
pony and a google wave invite, a pony is probably going to be more exciting.


Tim

P.s. anyone who thinks they need a google wave invite to be cool should 
sign up to pokebook.co.uk - you'll be so cool you won't need wave at all. ;)


*runs*

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Gary Kirk]

Nobody who gets invites from Google is getting invites of their own yet. So
we will all just have to wait.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brian Butterworth wrote:

> Yeah, me too...
>
> 2009/10/9 Luf Ball 
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> I would like a Google Wave invite.
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

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Yeah, me too...

2009/10/9 Luf Ball 

> I would like a Google Wave invite.
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Steve Jolly]

Billy Abbott wrote:

I would like a pony.


That sounds somewhat easier: there are more ponies in the world than 
Google Wave invites.


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

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Luf Ball wrote:

I would like a Google Wave invite.


I would like a pony.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

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I would like a Google Wave invite.
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Brian Butterworth]

I guess I'm going to loath it until I get an invite, just like I did with
Gmail...

2009/10/9 Rupert Watson 

> Tim
>
> If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that
> is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel
> for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it
> on the commute. I got quite excited at some points.
>
> As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for
> us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and
> hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like
> this.
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>
> Richard Lockwood wrote:
> > Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.
> >
> > And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.
> >
> > I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)
>
> Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to
> produce the same effect.
>
> It's a slimey marketing campaign though.
>
> Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com
>
> I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If
>
> I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public
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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Rupert Watson]

Tim

If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that
is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel
for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it
on the commute. I got quite excited at some points.

As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for
us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and
hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like
this. 


Rupert Watson 
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Richard Lockwood wrote:
> Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.
> 
> And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.
> 
> I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)

Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to 
produce the same effect.

It's a slimey marketing campaign though.

Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com

I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If

I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public

waiting list is as good a place as any by now.

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Tim Dobson]

Richard Lockwood wrote:

Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.

And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.

I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)


Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to 
produce the same effect.


It's a slimey marketing campaign though.

Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com

I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If 
I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public 
waiting list is as good a place as any by now.


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Mo McRoberts]

On 8-Oct-2009, at 09:17, Matt Hammond wrote:

Its a new and complex piece of tech, both on the client and server  
side. If I were trying to test out something of that ambition, I'd  
want to strictly limit the number of people using it, and try to  
ensure that spammers don't (yet) get a look in. The invite approach  
they took seems a good way to do that. As you point out tho: it does  
also has some marketing benefits for them :-)


My understanding, and it could be incorrect, is that the first  
“wave” (pardon the pun) would consist of about 1,000,000 invitations— 
that is, the original 100,000, followed by the invitations given to  
them. This is second-hand information, mind, so somebody may well know  
better than me!


I wouldn’t hold my breath for more invitations being issued any time  
in the short term, though.


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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Matt Hammond]

Its a new and complex piece of tech, both on the client and server side.  
If I were trying to test out something of that ambition, I'd want to  
strictly limit the number of people using it, and try to ensure that  
spammers don't (yet) get a look in. The invite approach they took seems a  
good way to do that. As you point out tho: it does also has some marketing  
benefits for them :-)



Matt

On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:11:58 +0100, Richard Lockwood  
 wrote:



As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather
gouge my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them
out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to
various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an
"invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".

F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.

R.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester   
wrote:

Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)

Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance
to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a
decent client for it?

Am I the only excited person?


I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an  
invite.


I'd quite like an invite.

Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
attention and this will help it get some...

cheers,

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[James Ockenden]

Those who would like a invite, you could always buy one on eBay :)

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1311&_nkw=google+wave+invite&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Enjoy!

James


2009/10/8 Xin Zhao 

> All,
>
> If you do not mind, could you send me an invitation of Google Wave? I would
> like give it a try.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Xin
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Richard Lockwood <
> richard.lockw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry - wasn't accusing you of that!  :-)
>>
>> Offers all appreciated!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Ian Forrester 
>> wrote:
>> > Oh no I wasn't supporting Google's tactics. I had to fight for my invite
>> a while back when I didn't turn up at the IO event.
>> >
>> > Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>> >
>> > Ian Forrester
>> > Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>> > 01612444063 | 07711913293
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>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:
>> owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
>> > Sent: 07 October 2009 18:58
>> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> > Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>> >
>> > Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.
>> >
>> > And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.
>> >
>> > I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Rich.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ian Forrester 
>> wrote:
>> >> Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off?
>> >>
>> >> If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.
>> >>
>> >> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>> >>
>> >> Ian Forrester
>> >> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>> >> 01612444063 | 07711913293
>> >> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>> >>
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>> >> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
>> >> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
>> >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> >> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>> >>
>> >> As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather
>> gouge my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
>> >> out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them
>> >> out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to
>> >> various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an
>> >> "invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
>> >> f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".
>> >>
>> >> F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.
>> >>
>> >> R.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley 
>> wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester <
>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a
>> >>>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one
>> >>>> building a decent client for it?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am I the only excited person?
>> >>>
>> >>> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like
>> an invite.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd quite like an invite.
>> >>>
>> >>> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
>> >>> attention and this will help it get some...
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers,
>> >>>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Xin Zhao]

All,

If you do not mind, could you send me an invitation of Google Wave? I would
like give it a try.

Thanks!

Xin

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Richard Lockwood  wrote:

> Sorry - wasn't accusing you of that!  :-)
>
> Offers all appreciated!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Ian Forrester 
> wrote:
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> a while back when I didn't turn up at the IO event.
> >
> > Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
> >
> > Ian Forrester
> > Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
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> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
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> > Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.
> >
> > And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.
> >
> > I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rich.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ian Forrester 
> wrote:
> >> Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off?
> >>
> >> If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.
> >>
> >> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
> >>
> >> Ian Forrester
> >> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> >> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> >> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
> >> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> >> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
> >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> >> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
> >>
> >> As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather
> gouge my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
> >> out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them
> >> out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to
> >> various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an
> >> "invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
> >> f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".
> >>
> >> F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.
> >>
> >> R.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester 
> wrote:
> >>>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
> >>>>
> >>>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a
> >>>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one
> >>>> building a decent client for it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Am I the only excited person?
> >>>
> >>> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an
> invite.
> >>>
> >>> I'd quite like an invite.
> >>>
> >>> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
> >>> attention and this will help it get some...
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Dan
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Richard Lockwood]

Sorry - wasn't accusing you of that!  :-)

Offers all appreciated!

Cheers,

Rich.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
> Oh no I wasn't supporting Google's tactics. I had to fight for my invite a 
> while back when I didn't turn up at the IO event.
>
> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>
> Ian Forrester
> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:58
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>
> Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.
>
> And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.
>
> I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
>> Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off?
>>
>> If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.
>>
>> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>>
>> Ian Forrester
>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>> 01612444063 | 07711913293
>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
>> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>>
>> As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather gouge 
>> my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
>> out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them
>> out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to
>> various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an
>> "invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
>> f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".
>>
>> F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>>>>
>>>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a
>>>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one
>>>> building a decent client for it?
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only excited person?
>>>
>>> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an 
>>> invite.
>>>
>>> I'd quite like an invite.
>>>
>>> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
>>> attention and this will help it get some...
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Dan
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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Ian Forrester]

Oh no I wasn't supporting Google's tactics. I had to fight for my invite a 
while back when I didn't turn up at the IO event.

Secret[] Private[x] Public[]

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-Original Message-
From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] 
On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
Sent: 07 October 2009 18:58
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave

Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.

And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.

I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)

Cheers,

Rich.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
> Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off?
>
> If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.
>
> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>
> Ian Forrester
> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>
> As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather gouge my 
> eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
> out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them 
> out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to 
> various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an 
> "invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
> f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".
>
> F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.
>
> R.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  
>> wrote:
>>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>>>
>>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a 
>>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one 
>>> building a decent client for it?
>>>
>>> Am I the only excited person?
>>
>> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an 
>> invite.
>>
>> I'd quite like an invite.
>>
>> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious 
>> attention and this will help it get some...
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Dan
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Richard Lockwood]

Oh - "peed off" doesn't come into it.

And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint.

I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though.  :-)

Cheers,

Rich.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
> Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off?
>
> If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.
>
> Secret[] Private[x] Public[]
>
> Ian Forrester
> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave
>
> As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather gouge my 
> eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
> out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them out as 
> c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to various Google 
> conferences over the years but this time I don't get an "invite", whereas I 
> have friends who couldn't give the square root of
> f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".
>
> F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.
>
> R.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  
>> wrote:
>>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>>>
>>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a
>>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one
>>> building a decent client for it?
>>>
>>> Am I the only excited person?
>>
>> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an 
>> invite.
>>
>> I'd quite like an invite.
>>
>> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
>> attention and this will help it get some...
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Dan
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RE: [backstage] Google Wave

[Ian Forrester]

Wow Richard you sound u, a little peed off? 

If I got any invites I'll make sure one goes your way.

Secret[] Private[x] Public[]

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-Original Message-
From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] 
On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
Sent: 07 October 2009 18:12
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave

As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather gouge my 
eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them out as 
c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to various Google 
conferences over the years but this time I don't get an "invite", whereas I 
have friends who couldn't give the square root of
f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".

F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.

R.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>>
>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a 
>> chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one 
>> building a decent client for it?
>>
>> Am I the only excited person?
>
> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an 
> invite.
>
> I'd quite like an invite.
>
> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious 
> attention and this will help it get some...
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Richard Lockwood]

As would I.  On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather
gouge my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their "invites"
out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them
out as c***s.  I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to
various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an
"invite", whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of
f*** all about Google who've been "granted" an "invite".

F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on.

R.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
>> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>>
>> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance
>> to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a
>> decent client for it?
>>
>> Am I the only excited person?
>
> I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an 
> invite.
>
> I'd quite like an invite.
>
> Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
> attention and this will help it get some...
>
> cheers,
>
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Tom Morris]

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 17:20, Ian Forrester  wrote:
> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance
> to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a
> decent client for it?
>
> Am I the only excited person?
>

I had a Wave Sandbox account for some time. Thought it was very 'meh'.

Blogged about it here:

http://tommorris.org/blog/2009/08/08#When:15:50:47

-- 
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Dan Brickley]

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester  wrote:
> Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)
>
> Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance
> to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a
> decent client for it?
>
> Am I the only excited person?

I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an invite.

I'd quite like an invite.

Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious
attention and this will help it get some...

cheers,

Dan
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave

[Mo McRoberts]

On 7-Oct-2009, at 17:20, Ian Forrester wrote:


Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching)

Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a  
chance

to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a
decent client for it?


Give it time… the people most likely to do this may not even have  
access to the preview yet ;)



Am I the only excited person?


Nope. It shows a huge amount of potential (although it’s quite buggy  
at the moment). IM+Email+Docs+…stuff, all built on XMPP? I’ll take  
three!


(I’m finding it quite buggy at the moment, though).

I’m nevalic...@googlewave.com, should anybody feel the need. A search  
for “with:public” is quite a good place to start for those who are new  
to it.


M.

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