Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
I installed a demo of "system access" today and it is really good. i would not say its awesome because there are a lot of things that could be done better. but it is really good! On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Bob J. wrote: > Kenny, > > Sounds like you have identified a major niche market! Here is a real > opportunity for you to jump in and make a financial killing! > > Good luck! > > Bob > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kenny Johnson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching > > > yes they have a video on their website with a demo. it can launch outlook > internet explorer etc from voice command. looks very nice. they just need > to add a good screen reader to the internet explorer part to make it more > complete... and add access to some specific websites like facebook etc. > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Brad Dunse' > wrote: > > > Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 > > Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. > > > > Brad > > > > On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... > > > >> I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be > much > >> much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that > >> people > >> could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. > >> the > >> software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done > >> already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation > >> but > >> did not work very well? i would love to check it out. > >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >> Send any questions regarding list management to: > >> blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > >> > >> > >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >> signature database 5969 (20110320) __ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > > > > > > Brad Dunse > > > > Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through > > ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. > > --Anonymous > > > > http://www.braddunsemusic.com > > > > http://www.facebook.com/braddunse > > > > http://www.twitter.com/braddunse > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > > > > > > -- > Thanks, > Kenny Johnson > > Free Old Time Radio Shows > http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > -- Thanks, Kenny Johnson Free Old Time Radio Shows http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Kenny, Sounds like you have identified a major niche market! Here is a real opportunity for you to jump in and make a financial killing! Good luck! Bob - Original Message - From: "Kenny Johnson" To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching yes they have a video on their website with a demo. it can launch outlook internet explorer etc from voice command. looks very nice. they just need to add a good screen reader to the internet explorer part to make it more complete... and add access to some specific websites like facebook etc. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Brad Dunse' wrote: > Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 > Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. > > Brad > > On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... > >> I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much >> much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that >> people >> could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. >> the >> software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done >> already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation >> but >> did not work very well? i would love to check it out. >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com >> >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 5969 (20110320) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > > Brad Dunse > > Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through > ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. > --Anonymous > > http://www.braddunsemusic.com > > http://www.facebook.com/braddunse > > http://www.twitter.com/braddunse > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > -- Thanks, Kenny Johnson Free Old Time Radio Shows http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Brad, take my word for it, it isn't anywhere near as good as they'd like to think it is. Oh, don't get me wrong. It's a great program but it's difficult to use and because of that, it can be frustrating. I'll bet there's someone on this list who can make it jump through hoops but I have tried at work and we've finally decided to shelve the idea for the time being. I suppose it's what you need from a program that makes the difference, though. The great thing about that company is that they've always tried to improve their product. In another couple of years, it will probably be everything we want it to be. The thing is, Dragon naturally Speaking is not written with a blind user in mind. That makes it a bit tough to navigate. John Justice JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brad Dunse' Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:25 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. Brad On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... >I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be >much much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is >that people could do many things on the computer through complete voice >activation. the software just needs to be written... i am surprised it >has not been done already. can u tell me an example of one that >promised voice activation but did not work very well? i would love to check it out. >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >Send any questions regarding list management to: >blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > > >__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 5969 (20110320) __ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com Brad Dunse Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. --Anonymous http://www.braddunsemusic.com http://www.facebook.com/braddunse http://www.twitter.com/braddunse For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Thanks for the replies. I saw the product System Access Standalone but they dont have any videos or demos to show how well it works. I sent them an email and hope to hear back. I would like to see this program in action. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Don Marang wrote: > Many of the problems around this technology is the complexity of the > vocabulary desired. The less commands you want to recognize, the better the > accuracy. From a practical standpoint I always had problems with Dragon > while taking dictation or recognizing commands and controlling the computer > because of family interruptions or background noise. It can give you > strange results and take longer due to undoing and editing! It was kind of > cool, but very frustrating! > > Recently, several mainstream devices have come closer to your ideals. > There is the Ford in car electronics which uses voice control of the audio, > temperature read email from your bluetooth phone, or send a text message > through your phone, and so on for a hands free experience. It sounds pretty > imprressive! It almost makes me want to drive. It is even in their low end > Focus cars. Smart phones are surprisingly getting pretty good at this as > well I hear. Google has many projects that allow voice input and > recognition for search and translating voice mails to text emails on Android > phones. Most of the heavy processing in these cases is performed on their > servers. > > Don Marang > Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinux.org.uk > > There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real > substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working > on things that matter. > -- Dean Kamen > > > > On 3/20/2011 8:51 PM, Kenny Johnson wrote: > >> yes they have a video on their website with a demo. it can launch outlook >> internet explorer etc from voice command. looks very nice. they just >> need >> to add a good screen reader to the internet explorer part to make it more >> complete... and add access to some specific websites like facebook etc. >> >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Brad Dunse'> >wrote: >> >> Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 >>> Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... >>> >>> I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that people could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. the software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation but did not work very well? i would love to check it out. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5969 (20110320) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com >>> Brad Dunse >>> >>> Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through >>> ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. >>> --Anonymous >>> >>> http://www.braddunsemusic.com >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/braddunse >>> >>> http://www.twitter.com/braddunse >>> >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> Send any questions regarding list management to: >>> blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com >>> >>> >> >> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > -- Thanks, Kenny Johnson Free Old Time Radio Shows http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
dragon naturally speaking premium can open some programs via voice command then type etc. so all they need to do is program some of the major sites into that same technology. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Dan Rossi wrote: > Kenny, > > Ah, I see. What you are looking for is an artificial intelligence. They > don't exist yet. Although, Watson made it look pretty real. > > Just because a computer can turn your speech into machine readable text, > doesn't mean it understands what you are saying. > > If you wanted to tell your computer "go to facebook", "update my status", > then someone would have had to program all the commands that it requires to > do those things, then program the speech recognition system to execute those > commands when it receives your commands. > > I'm not saying it can't be done, but for that system to work for more than > a couple of web sites, or a few dozen commands, it would be pretty complex. > > Sorry, but computers just aren't quite that smart yet. > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu > Tel:(412) 268-9081 > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > -- Thanks, Kenny Johnson Free Old Time Radio Shows http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Many of the problems around this technology is the complexity of the vocabulary desired. The less commands you want to recognize, the better the accuracy. From a practical standpoint I always had problems with Dragon while taking dictation or recognizing commands and controlling the computer because of family interruptions or background noise. It can give you strange results and take longer due to undoing and editing! It was kind of cool, but very frustrating! Recently, several mainstream devices have come closer to your ideals. There is the Ford in car electronics which uses voice control of the audio, temperature read email from your bluetooth phone, or send a text message through your phone, and so on for a hands free experience. It sounds pretty imprressive! It almost makes me want to drive. It is even in their low end Focus cars. Smart phones are surprisingly getting pretty good at this as well I hear. Google has many projects that allow voice input and recognition for search and translating voice mails to text emails on Android phones. Most of the heavy processing in these cases is performed on their servers. Don Marang Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinux.org.uk There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. -- Dean Kamen On 3/20/2011 8:51 PM, Kenny Johnson wrote: yes they have a video on their website with a demo. it can launch outlook internet explorer etc from voice command. looks very nice. they just need to add a good screen reader to the internet explorer part to make it more complete... and add access to some specific websites like facebook etc. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Brad Dunse'wrote: Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. Brad On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that people could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. the software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation but did not work very well? i would love to check it out. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5969 (20110320) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Brad Dunse Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. --Anonymous http://www.braddunsemusic.com http://www.facebook.com/braddunse http://www.twitter.com/braddunse For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
The best that i found is System Access. It has the best voices and you can download the newest voices free. - Original Message - From: "Kenny Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of blind computing. when i started searching for computers for the blind i was surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen readers can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind is? thanks kenny For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
yes they have a video on their website with a demo. it can launch outlook internet explorer etc from voice command. looks very nice. they just need to add a good screen reader to the internet explorer part to make it more complete... and add access to some specific websites like facebook etc. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Brad Dunse' wrote: > Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 > Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. > > Brad > > On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... > >> I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much >> much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that >> people >> could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. >> the >> software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done >> already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation >> but >> did not work very well? i would love to check it out. >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com >> >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 5969 (20110320) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > > Brad Dunse > > Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through > ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. > --Anonymous > > http://www.braddunsemusic.com > > http://www.facebook.com/braddunse > > http://www.twitter.com/braddunse > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > -- Thanks, Kenny Johnson Free Old Time Radio Shows http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Smart Computing claims the latest version of Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 Premium is top notch for speech to text and voice activation. Brad On 3/20/2011 06:07 PM Kenny Johnson said... I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that people could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. the software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation but did not work very well? i would love to check it out. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5969 (20110320) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Brad Dunse Sometimes you really can't go around what you've got to go through ...but you really can get through the things you'll never get over. --Anonymous http://www.braddunsemusic.com http://www.facebook.com/braddunse http://www.twitter.com/braddunse For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
I realize they dont "need" voice activated computers but it would be much much eaiser and faster. and the technology exists. the fact is that people could do many things on the computer through complete voice activation. the software just needs to be written... i am surprised it has not been done already. can u tell me an example of one that promised voice activation but did not work very well? i would love to check it out. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Your question brings up a load of questions, Kenny. What exactly do you mean by a "voice controlled " computer? Although some computer programs promise to be able to allow the user to perform certain functions by using the spoken word, The reality is, unfortunately, nowhere near what the designers promise. Some success has been achieved by the use of programs like Dragon Naturally Speaking but even there, there are limitations, confusion and serious frustration. The days of computers which respond directly to the spoken word are coming but they're not here, yet. You seem to be of the opinion that blind people need a "voice activated computer" in order to function. In a recent survey, 99.18% of the blind use standard computers which have been equipped with screen readers. I agree with you that to a novice, most screen readers are cumbersome and difficult to learn. But the world makes no promise of fairness or equality to the blind. At worst, we are tolerated. At best, you may find many types of adaptive equipment which will help you as a blind person. If you can be more specific as to what you are trying to accomplish, there are many people on this list with vast experience and knowledge that they are willing to share. Please provide specific questions so that we can give you specific responses. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:30 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of blind computing. when i started searching for computers for the blind i was surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen readers can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind is? thanks kenny For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Kenny, Ah, I see. What you are looking for is an artificial intelligence. They don't exist yet. Although, Watson made it look pretty real. Just because a computer can turn your speech into machine readable text, doesn't mean it understands what you are saying. If you wanted to tell your computer "go to facebook", "update my status", then someone would have had to program all the commands that it requires to do those things, then program the speech recognition system to execute those commands when it receives your commands. I'm not saying it can't be done, but for that system to work for more than a couple of web sites, or a few dozen commands, it would be pretty complex. Sorry, but computers just aren't quite that smart yet. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Hello kenny to my knollige there is no such thing as a voice activated computer if you mien a computer that is able to be activated by your voice and is usable for blind people. how ever there are several programs that make using the computer easier for the blind these are screen readers and the most popular screen readers are jaws for windows and window eyes. there are also a few open source screen readers like nvda and system access. I hope this helps. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Kenny Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of blind computing. when i started searching for computers for the blind i was surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen readers can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind is? thanks kenny For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Actually if used correctly they can be quite helpful. When I use jfw at least you can go by headings or tab through links. You can also go to edit fields or just do a text search. There are many ways to speed up internet browsing. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:41 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching thanks for the reply and the info! i saw something by dragon naturally speaking that was sort of voice controlled. if you said "write email" it would open a new email. all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired when it comes to surfing the internet. you have to go through all the links at the top of the page to get to the content... thanks again for your time! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Hello D n s I ok but if I am correct to run d n s you need to purchase and install a programm called j say. This I believe will cost around £500 I bought d ns but knew nothing about j say until after I bought the d n s program and had it installed and set up Then I found out to use it I need j say Yvonne -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson Sent: 19 March 2011 18:41 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching thanks for the reply and the info! i saw something by dragon naturally speaking that was sort of voice controlled. if you said "write email" it would open a new email. all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired when it comes to surfing the internet. you have to go through all the links at the top of the page to get to the content... thanks again for your time! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
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right it needs to a combination of voice input from the user, and digital voice output from the computer. so you can say "use facebook" then say "update status" then just say what you want your status to be. i am very surprised that there is not already a system like this. thanks for your time. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Since most blind people have fingers, voice input isn't really necessary. Voice input is more for people who have paralysis or issues with dexterity. As far as screen readers being clunky, this is true for some situations, but notthe for the one you mentioned, having to navigate through all the links at the top of a page. Most screen readers have many navigation functions that allow you to quickly and easily navigate a page, including jumping over that first, usually a frame, to get to the body of the page. A voice input system won't change that for you. You will still need a screen reader to get information out of the system. Speech to text is merely for putting information into the system. So, you would still have to learn to navigate a web page even if you were using a voice input system. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
Not quite since we use a lot of hotkeys to quickly navigate to relevant content etc., and here's a link to jaws' own bit of tutorial material relating to using the 'net : http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm While some guys do use things like dragon naturally speaking, I think most of us just touch type as such, but anyway...and there are free typing tutorial bits of software out there that include their own spoken/audio prompts. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Kenny Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching thanks for the reply and the info! i saw something by dragon naturally speaking that was sort of voice controlled. if you said "write email" it would open a new email. all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired when it comes to surfing the internet. you have to go through all the links at the top of the page to get to the content... thanks again for your time! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
thanks for the reply and the info! i saw something by dragon naturally speaking that was sort of voice controlled. if you said "write email" it would open a new email. all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired when it comes to surfing the internet. you have to go through all the links at the top of the page to get to the content... thanks again for your time! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
it really isn't voice controlled. It is speech output grin. There are a few and it really is a personal and financial choice. There is jaws by fs or freedom scientific or window eyes by gw micro. These are the two big one. There is also system access to go and NVDA. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:30 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of blind computing. when i started searching for computers for the blind i was surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen readers can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind is? thanks kenny For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching
hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of blind computing. when i started searching for computers for the blind i was surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen readers can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind is? thanks kenny For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
