Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape
On 7/24/23 10:12, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 2023-07-22 09:55, frank saporito wrote: On 7/22/23 02:29, Gordon Messmer wrote: From my point of view, Red Hat doesn't really sell software. They give away software. All of their software is available at no charge, typically in an unbranded release. What Red Hat sells is support. Does Red Hat give away software anymore? Yes? I'm not aware of any Red Hat software that isn't Free Software. I am confused. Last month Red Hat announced that the source code would not be published. That's not what they announced. The major-release branch of RHEL's source code is still published to the CentOS Stream git repos. I think it's important to point out that Red Hat never published *all* of RHEL's package source code. For the first six months of any release of RHEL, they would publish de-branded source by essentially taking one artifact from each build (the src.rpm), unpacking that in a git repository, removing the primary source code archive, debranding what was left, committing all of that, and then pushing the result. It was basically git as a fancy FTP. They've stopped doing that, in favor of publishing the major-release branch of the git repos for the entire primary support lifecycle of the major release. The spirit of GPL was meant to force sharing and prevent the commercialization of the volunteer work of many. It definitely wasn't. GPL software can't be made closed-source. Customers have to receive the source code (or an offer for it), and they have the rights that the license guarantees. But GPL software can definitely be commercialized. Gordon, I would like clarification on your recent post. There may be some nuances in your language that I need help understanding. Let me know if you disagree with any of these statements: 1. Red Hat is no longer posting source code to git.centos.org. (ref: Red Hat's June 21, 2023 announcement, https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream, and Hackaday article published June 30, 2023, https://hackaday.com/2023/06/23/et-tu-red-hat/) 2. Red Hat will release source code to partners and customers via the Red Hat Customer Portal. (ref: Red Hat announcement) 3. Per Red Hat EULA, customers can not freely distribute the source code. (ref: Red Hat EULA) 4. Red Hat's policy decision has made it difficult (maybe impossible) for "clone" distributions to continue existing. (ref: Google "red hat source code") 5. Red Hat's policy change contradicts the GPL's spirit. The first four statements are facts (at least, I think they are.) The fifth question is opinion. I am not engaging in a heated debate - just trying to gain understanding. I appreciate your consideration. frank ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape
On 7/22/23 02:29, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 2023-07-21 00:30, Lee Thomas Stephen wrote: But for my business, I do not want to pay Red Hat, Zimbra, or Google Workspace. Why ? Because the general rule seems to be Oh! You are an individual, we will offer you affordable/free service What! You are a business, we will offer you extremely 'unaffordable' service. Because being a 'business' by default means you have a 'lot' of money to waste. I'm not a Red Hat employee, so I'm not positive how they would respond to that. But, speaking as a customer who has worked with numerous enterprise support agreements over several decades, I want to suggest that the issue isn't that Red Hat assumes that businesses have a lot of money to spend, it's that they're targeting a set of the market that you might not be in right now. From my point of view, Red Hat doesn't really sell software. They give away software. All of their software is available at no charge, typically in an unbranded release. What Red Hat sells is support. Does Red Hat give away software anymore? I don't mean helpdesk style "support-me-when-something-breaks" support. Support isn't something that exists only during incidents, support is a relationship. It's periodic meetings with your account manager and engineers. It's discussing your roadmap and your pain points regularly, and getting direction from them. It's the opportunity to tell Red Hat what your needs and priorities are, and helping them make decisions about where to allocate their engineers time to address the real needs of their customers. It's setting the direction for the company that builds the system that sits underneath your technical operations. That kind of support is what makes RHEL a valuable offering. If you don't need the kind of support that comes with enterprise offerings, then by all means, use the Free Software that Red Hat provides to the community. I am confused. Last month Red Hat announced that the source code would not be published. But don't make the mistake of thinking that Red Hat is trying to mlik businesses simply because they're businesses. Red Hat's offerings are expensive because they're enterprise-focused support plans. Businesses can purchase in a tax-advantageous manner that you can not as an individual. Companies do not pay tax on their expenses. That might partially explain the higher rates for commercial products and services. - I am not an expert network manager. I am a physician that used CentOS 8 on my three practice servers until the big "rug pull." At the time, I had a choice between switching to the Stream or Oracle Linux 8. I went with Oracle Linux 8 and had no complaints. Some have suggested that the evil Oracle will execute the same IBM rug pull. I considered that. That concern is a non-issue now. The spirit of GPL was meant to force sharing and prevent the commercialization of the volunteer work of many. At the time, I was confused about why IBM purchased Red Hat for an astronomical amount. Well, it is clear now. As the readers know, there is a significant defect in the GPL: A Comprehensive Analysis of the GPL Issues With the Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Business Model <https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/jun/23/rhel-gpl-analysis/> The terms of the license are enforceable, not the spirit I think the Rocky Linux workaround will eventually fail. I expect IBM already has a plan for all contingencies. There is reason for anger. Is there a reason for hope? frank saporito md ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to relay mail through gmail anymore
On 8/5/22 11:14, Richard wrote: Date: Friday, August 05, 2022 10:39:04 -0400 From: Frank Bures I have my CentOS7 sendmail configured to relay outgoing system e-mail through my gmail account. The setup recently stopped working. Gmail SMTP keeps returning "service unavailable". I think it has something to do with the recent changes in Gmail authentication procedures. Does anyone know how to make the relaying work again? I could not find anything on the Net. I'm assuming you are pushing the mail to gmail through port 465 or 587. If that's the case, if you aren't already, you will need to set up and use a google "app password". Alternatively, get whatever you are using on the centos side that authenticates with gmail to support OAuth 2. You can no longer use your google side-wide password to authenticate 3rd party apps with gmail so need to use one of the alternatives in its place. I would actually expect you to get an authentication failure message so they may have changed something else that disabled this approach. "app password" has done the job. Thanks a bunch Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Unable to relay mail through gmail anymore
Hi, I have my CentOS7 sendmail configured to relay outgoing system e-mail through my gmail account. The setup recently stopped working. Gmail SMTP keeps returning "service unavailable". I think it has something to do with the recent changes in Gmail authentication procedures. Does anyone know how to make the relaying work again? I could not find anything on the Net. Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NFS Server Centos7
On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:43:12 +0200 Erik Frangež via CentOS wrote: > we are setting NFS server on CentOS7 system. Everything working OK > except speed, speed over NFS very drop... if we run dd command directly > on server we are getting speed around 1,4Gbps, if we run from client > connected to NFS is 200Mbps. > > Do you have maybe some advice what we need to check? Speed of network card in the server. Speed of network card in the client. Speed of any and all routers and switches between the server and the client. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Linux Notifications for any changes in files or folders
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:12:30 +0530 Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Please guide and suggest. Thanks in advance. man inotify -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vault.centos.org down
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:36:55 -0700 Nels Lindquist wrote: > I've been unable to access it at all for the past couple of days, either > through a browser or yum. https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/vault.centos.org -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream 8 dnf fails
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:20:14 -0700 Greg Bailey wrote: > Is there some setting for a minimum bandwidth threshold or some other > way to diagnose some really slow mirror? Add the fastestmirror directive to /etc/dnf/dnf.conf That won't give you a minimum bandwidth but it will find what it thinks is the fastest mirror to download from. (Not guaranteed to be the fastest since it measures ping response time at the start and picks from there, but it's more than nothing.) -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Add Custom Application to Panel causes Mate panel to crash
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:54:49 +0100 Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > Am 17.12.21 um 06:08 schrieb Frank Cox: > > As with most people who are using Mate on Centos 8, I am using Mate 1.26.0 > > from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ > > > > Right-click on the panel, "add to panel" "custom application" > > > > The panel crashes. > > > > AFAIK a better place to report would be > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/stenstorp-mate/7406 Thanks! I never knew that existed. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Add Custom Application to Panel causes Mate panel to crash
As with most people who are using Mate on Centos 8, I am using Mate 1.26.0 from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ Right-click on the panel, "add to panel" "custom application" The panel crashes. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:00:41 + Steve Wardle via CentOS wrote: > We had the same issue with some systems after the Almalinux 8.4 > 8.5 update. > > Solved by switching to Gnome then back to MATE. I've done a bit of experimenting with a few other computers and found that if I switch to lightdm first, then upgrade to Centos 8.5 everything works just fine and as expected. If I upgrade to 8.5 first and reboot while still using gdm I can't log back in with Mate and though I can still log in with Gnome. I think the easiest course of action here is to install and activate lightdm first, then do the upgrade to 8.5. Everything just works. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] SOLVED: Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:27:32 -0700 Greg Bailey wrote: > > >From the GDM login screen I enter my password and select Mate. The screen > > >goes blank and appears to be loading the Mate desktop as usual, but just > > >at the point where the desktop should appear it returns to the GDM login > > >menu. > > > The only difference in my case is that I use lightdm from the > stenstorp/lightdm copr repo instead of GDM. Installing lightdm from the stenscorp/lightdm was indeed the fix. Now my desktop is back to looking and working like it's supposed to be. For the next guy who needs to do this, here are the exact commands needed: dnf copr enable stenstorp/lightdm dnf install lightdm systemctl disable gdm.service systemctl enable lightdm.service Then reboot. You'll probably have to select Mate from the drop-down list at the top right of the login screen but you only have to make that selection once. Thank you ever so much for the help, Greg! -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Notes attached to files on Gnome
Since my Mate desktop is currently lost at sea (see the "Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111" thread that I started earlier today) I'm using Gnome at the moment and have a question. Old versions of Gnome and the current Mate allow you to right-click on a file, select Properties and add a note to a file. After that a little "note" icon attaches itself to the file and you can go back to Properties and read your note. "File downloaded from x" or "Talked to Joe about this on Monday" or "This version doesn't work" or whatever you like. I don't know if there's a particular limit to how long a note can be but I have several multi-line notes and haven't run into a limit yet. This functionality is extremely handy and I use it extensively. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be present in modern Gnome. Is there a way to get it back? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:27:32 -0700 Greg Bailey wrote: > I use the same Mate copr repo, and I didn't encounter any issues on > either my bare metal CentOS 8.5 install (after the 8.4->8.5 upgrade), or > on a VM that runs a similar installation. > > The only difference in my case is that I use lightdm from the > stenstorp/lightdm copr repo instead of GDM. Now that's an interesting bit of information indeed. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 17:24:25 + Phil Perry wrote: > Have you reported the issue to the stenstorp/MATE repo, and if so, what > did they say? Unless I'm missing something (which I probably am) I don't see any obvious way to contact anyone or post bug report on that project webpage. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111
I updated my main computer to Centos 8.5.2111 late last night and now Mate (my usual choice of desktop) will no longer start. >From the GDM login screen I enter my password and select Mate. The screen >goes blank and appears to be loading the Mate desktop as usual, but just at >the point where the desktop should appear it returns to the GDM login menu. I use Mate from the stenstorp/MATE repo and it's been working fine until last night's update. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vice.com and firefox
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 14:19:24 -0400 mark wrote: > Ok, last month, anyway, version of firefox. (Yeah, I know, time to > update). 100% of the time, any link, anywhere, to vice.com gives me > "network protocol violation". > > Anyone else seen this? Just went to vice.com with firefox-91.2.0-4.el8_4.x86_64 and it looks normal to me. No network protocol violation. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio doesn't work past kernel 4.18-0-240.22.1
As stated in the subject line, the last Centos kernel where Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio works is version 4.18-0-240.22.1 Booting the computer with any later kernel makes the audio device not show up and the only audio device is "dummy output". -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Connecting an android tablet to CentOS
On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 11:01:49 -0400 mark wrote: > Using termx. I go to storage/shared/Android... and "not allowed." I > think they've made a change in Android's permissions. I can go to storage/shared/Android on my Samsung S8 phone. Did you run the termux-setup-storage script as described here: https://wiki.termux.com/wiki/Termux-setup-storage -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Connecting an android tablet to CentOS
On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:01:29 + Richard wrote: > [My android device file viewer(s) wouldn't get me into the > Kindle data directory.] I wonder if the Termux app would allow you to do look at that. You can download the latest Termux from the F-Droid repo. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MATE 1.20 test build for CentOS 7 available
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:07:08 -0400 H wrote: > On another note, the version that is available for C7, Mate 1.16.2, does not > save all sessions when it crashes, nor does it save positions or session > order arrangement on the bar. This means that every time the computer is > restarted you have to spend time arranging your desktop working > environment... I have not found any utility to do this for me either. I use Mate, currently on C8 but previously on C7 and I've never had this problem. I just have a single panel bar at the bottom (like Gnome version 1) and arrange it to suit me and it stays the way I want it between sessions. Every time I log in I see the same panel bar that I saw the last time I logged in. Is this the problem you're having? If so you might want to use dconf-editor to lock the panel bar and see if that solves it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to update Google products on CentOS 7
On 9/1/21 10:37 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 10:34, Frank Bures wrote: Hi, I have Google rpm repository enabled. However, running "yum update" returns https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTPS Error 404 - Not Found It works for me and can be tested with: $ curl https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/repo"; xmlns:rpm="http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/rpm";> 1630438383 72bd1120db31564215cde423e900596e2fd9cc583850782355aaf7c283aa1c54 028e855817d7529b77f5a197460250178e2251c8d97f4b1042549f4b698da63a 1630438384 1823 19397 e2475ced0fbc6c2b3ea79e7a549c3de637734bf8b93a8c2d8c0b87b278f244ae ac55966bc79fdb3ca5152fad6ba96f0ffbe52a9e55c5dbfa651cef2b6f447a2e 1630438384 368 690 692f4b277acda5a9e039dca2758d79de6f0c35b65677ff71015722037b87b0f6 d39a3502be6913450d4cdaa70cb22abedea7c23c77988364c6f494927f14231e 1630438384 1801 17371 $ host dl.google.com dl.google.com has address 172.217.2.110 dl.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4004:80a::200e If it doesn't work for you then compare if the ips are blocked somewhere. I'll be damned. It started to work again after reboot to install a kernel update. Weird... Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Unable to update Google products on CentOS 7
Hi, I have Google rpm repository enabled. However, running "yum update" returns https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTPS Error 404 - Not Found It worked OK just a couple of days ago. Is anyone aware of any recent changes in Google repositories? Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Warning: No matches found for: clamav on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:08:40 +0530 Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > I am unable to start clamd service on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core). > ul 20 00:01:57 testdeveloperportal clamd: ERROR: Can't open/parse the > > config file /etc/clamd.d/server.conf -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tracking down application sending mail in CentOS 7
On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 21:54:02 -0400 H wrote: > Can anyone suggest how to track down the app so I can reconfigure the mail > address? And the relevant line(s) in /var/log/maillog are -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Prevent a particular kernel from being deleted
Somewhat related to my inquiry earlier today about the disappearing sound card, I just got to wondering if there's a way to "pin" the kernel that works with the soundcard such that it won't be deleted with future updates until and unless there's a future kernel released that solves the sound card issue. "dnf versionlock" appears to almost do what I want, but it just locks a package to a particular version and doesn't allow it to be upgraded past that. I'd like to be able to install updated kernels as they are released, but somehow tell dnf to never delete kernel version 4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64. In the normal course of events that kernel would be deleted after a certain number of kernels are installed afterward (as specified by the installonly_limit number in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf. So is there a way to tell dnf to update kernels in the usual manner but always keep a certain installed version until otherwise instructed? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Sound card disappears on Acer laptop with latest kernel
4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 Sound works as expected. 4.18.0-305.3.1.el8.x86_64 only "dummy output" shows up under the Sound Preferences on the desktop. I guess there's a kernel bug somewhere that's causing the driver for that soundcard to not load? The lshw command (when running kernel subversion 240.22.1, i.e. the "old kernel") tells me that it has this soundcard: *-multimedia description: Multimedia audio controller product: Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.3 bus info: pci@:00:1f.3 logical name: card0 logical name: /dev/snd/controlC0 logical name: /dev/snd/hwC0D0 logical name: /dev/snd/hwC0D2 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D10p logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D7p logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D8p logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D9p version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32 resources: irq:128 memory:df1a8000-df1abfff memory:df18-df18 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kmod removal
On Sat, 29 May 2021 09:19:03 -0700 Emmett Culley via CentOS wrote: > Seem there is no such package. I believe because it get built newly each > time a new kernel is installed. What did you do (exactly) when you installed kmod-wl in the first place? Did the rpm have a name? What was that name? If you're not sure, the what is the output from: rpm -qa | grep kmod -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Trying to build enca
On Tue, 18 May 2021 12:12:20 +0200 Adrian van Bloois wrote: > I want to get vlc or mplayer to work on CentOS 8. Any particular reason why you want to re-invent the wheel? Both vlc and mplayer are available for Centos 8 from the rpmfusion repo. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer
On Fri, 14 May 2021 22:22:24 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > With the Deskjet D1420 disconnected, hp-probe > finds no USB printers (duh). > With the Deskjet D1420 connected, hp-probe > finds it. The exact test of the output from hp-probe -busb -g is The output from hp-testpage printername -g is The relevant parts of /var/log/messages, /var/log/cups/access_log and /var/log/cups/error-log and /var/log/cups/page_log are -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer
On Thu, 13 May 2021 13:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > The first link got me to something that was Windows-only. The first link should have got you page 34 of the user manual, which states that you need a program to access the print test page function. According to the manual, there is no button that you push to print the test page as there is on many other printers. The second link describes the hp-toolbox program, which runs on Linux and (apparently) will allow you to access the test page function. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer
On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:02:48 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > If this machine has a menu anywhere, I cannot find it. > Print test page from localost:631 gives me the same unending print. According to the manual you need to use the "HP Toolbox" to access the test page function (and other stuff). https://www.manualsdir.com/manuals/398954/hp-deskjet-d1420-printer.html?page=36 http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/hp-toolbox.1.html This appears to be part of hplip, which is available in the standard Centos repository. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yumex for CentOS 8.3
On Sun, 09 May 2021 14:48:56 -0500 Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: > That nux yum repo was in Frank's system. My system is all C8. https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2021-May/353979.html No. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yumex for CentOS 8.3
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:46:58 -0500 Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: > CentOS 8.3, ... > yumex-3.0.15-1.el7.nux.noarch Centos 8.3 is not el7. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vlc: - nothing provides libfluidsynth.so.1
On Fri, 7 May 2021 15:46:14 -0600 R C wrote: > I am trying to install vlc and get: > Problem: conflicting requests > - nothing provides libfluidsynth.so.1()(64bit) needed by vlc https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5983 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:36:48 -0400 Chris Schanzle via CentOS wrote: > I discovered if I set ForwardX11=no (either on ssh command line or in > ~/.ssh/config) the hang does not happen. But why does that matter? No > updates to openssh. Far out! That's the solution! Well, not really a solution but it's certainly a work-around that makes rsync over ssh work without hanging. I discovered that you have to put the "ForwardX11 no" into the default part of .ssh/config. It doesn't work if you just specify the host involved. This doesn't work: Host * ForwardX11 yes host jeff ForwardX11 no This does work: Host * ForwardX11 no Someone should probably file a bug report about this, but I have no idea what package it pertains to. As you said, openssh wasn't updated at the point that this broke. If it's of any value, here's a list of what was updated last on this computer. The ones that look most suspicious to me would be kernel, crypto-policies and/or systemd. Packages Altered: Install kernel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos Install kernel-core-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Install kernel-debug-devel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos Install kernel-devel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Install kernel-modules-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos Upgrade dbus-x11-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded dbus-x11-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64@@System Upgrade flatpak-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded flatpak-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade flatpak-libs-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded flatpak-libs-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade flatpak-selinux-1.6.2-6.el8_3.noarch @appstream Upgraded flatpak-selinux-1.6.2-5.el8_3.noarch @@System Upgrade flatpak-session-helper-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded flatpak-session-helper-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64@@System Upgrade java-1.8.0-openjdk-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64@@System Upgrade java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64 @appstream Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade bpftool-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded bpftool-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade crypto-policies-20210209-1.gitbfb6bed.el8_3.noarch @baseos Upgraded crypto-policies-20200713-1.git51d1222.el8.noarch @@System Upgrade crypto-policies-scripts-20210209-1.gitbfb6bed.el8_3.noarch @baseos Upgraded crypto-policies-scripts-20200713-1.git51d1222.el8.noarch @@System Upgrade dbus-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded dbus-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64@@System Upgrade dbus-common-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.noarch @baseos Upgraded dbus-common-1:1.12.8-11.el8.noarch @@System Upgrade dbus-daemon-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded dbus-daemon-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64 @@System Upgrade dbus-libs-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded dbus-libs-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64 @@System Upgrade dbus-tools-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64@baseos Upgraded dbus-tools-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64 @@System Upgrade file-5.33-16.el8_3.1.x86_64@baseos Upgraded file-5.33-16.el8.x86_64@@System Upgrade file-libs-5.33-16.el8_3.1.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded file-libs-5.33-16.el8.x86_64 @@System Upgrade kernel-headers-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos Upgraded kernel-headers-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64@@System Upgrade kernel-tools-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded kernel-tools-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade kernel-tools-libs-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded kernel-tools-libs-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade python3-perf-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 @baseos Upgraded python3-perf-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System Upgrade systemd-239-41
Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:29:26 +0200 Simon Matter wrote: > You could try running strace on the hanging process so see what it's doing. [frankcox@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp (7 args) sending incremental file list delta-transmission enabled abc is uptodate total: matches=0 hash_hits=0 false_alarms=0 data=0 Leaving that sit there apparently doing nothing (but still not giving me my cursor back) I switched to another terminal window and did the following: [frankcox@mutt ~]$ ps -FA | grep rsync frankcox54002435 0 60586 3160 5 14:52 pts/000:00:00 rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp frankcox54015400 0 67980 7440 1 14:52 pts/000:00:00 ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp frankcox55265416 0 55476 1076 3 14:53 pts/100:00:00 grep --color=auto rsync [frankcox@mutt ~]$ strace -p 5401 strace: Process 5401 attached select(11, [5 9 10], [], NULL, NULL Then it just sits there with no further action. I get my cursor back when I hit ctrl-c. [frankcox@mutt ~]$ strace -p 5400 strace: Process 5400 attached restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted nanosleep ...>) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0 wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0 The wait4-etc line just keeps repeating endlessly until I hit ctrl-c. Unfortunately, I have no idea what any of the above actually means. Does it tell us anything interesting? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Paul Heinlein wrote: > Is there any chance that your shell is configured to emit anything to > stderr or stdout when you logout of jeff? It's fairly rare, but I've > seen logout messages mess up rsync before. I don't think so. The only change from the default .bashrc on both machines is the addition of "unset command_not_found_handle", and in .bash_profile on mutt I have xmodmap -e "keycode 135 = 0x", which hasn't changed since 2016 according to the timestamp on the file. Other than that, the .bash* files are just the defaults. sshd_config has nothing other than the default settings for logout messages, and in any event none of these things have changed since last week and it did work then. I wonder if it's something to do with the last Centos 8 update. There was a fair amount of stuff updated including the kernel. I just rebooted both machines with the previous kernel and nothing changed, so that doesn't appear to be it either. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 13:07:19 -0500 Christopher Wensink wrote: > Try using --whole-file / -W Using that command, it says "delta-transmission disabled for local transfer or --whole-file ", but it still stalls at the end so there's no change. Since it works fine transferring files over nfs, it has to be something about the interaction with ssh. (The fact that it also works fine with ssh as a cronjob adds to the weirdness, of course.) Reading up a bit on what can cause ssh to appear to stall, I just un-commented "useDNS no" in sshd_config on both machines and restarted sshd. I think that's the default setting anyway, but I made the change and that didn't do anything for me either. I notice, though, that if I ssh from jeff to mutt and type exit, it logs me out as soon as I hit enter. If I ssh from mutt to jeff and type exit, it logs me out after a delay of about one second. I never really noticed if that delay was there before or not. I wonder if it's somehow related. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:43:16 -0500 Christopher Wensink wrote: > Does it behave any differently when adding a & at the end of the command > when running it manually, or running in a screen session? Nope. I get the same stall both ways. Running it in a screen session looks exactly like what I posted earlier, and the & at the end of the command looks like this: [me@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp & [1] 15694 opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp (7 args) [me@mutt temp]$ sending incremental file list delta-transmission enabled bookmarks.html is uptodate abc total: matches=38 hash_hits=38 false_alarms=0 data=0 ^C The difference here is that I don't see the "rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(644) [sender=3.1.3]" after the ctrl-c when I use the &. That line shows up only without the &. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job
Here's a weird one. I have two Centos 8 machines that use rsync-over-ssh to back up files between each other. (Each machine acts as a backup machine for the other one.) There's are nightly cronjobs that do the backing up, the commands look like this: rsync -av --delete /home/mydirectory jeff:/home/mydirectorybackup That command works fine when it's run through the cronjob. When I try to run a rsync command between mutt and jeff from the commandline, that's where the problem starts. It worked a few days ago but now when I log into jeff and do a rsync to or from mutt it works fine. When I log into mutt and do a rsync to or from jeff it works and does the job, but then it seems to stall afterward and I have to hit ctrl-c to get my cursor back. Here's a test run so you can see what happens. [me@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp (7 args) sending incremental file list delta-transmission enabled bookmarks.html is uptodate ./ abc total: matches=0 hash_hits=0 false_alarms=0 data=26321 ^Crsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(644) [sender=3.1.3] A file named bookmarks.html existed in both directories so it wasn't changed, and a new file abc was copied to the backup directory. Then my ctrl-c stopped the job and brought the cursor back after it stalled. scp works fine to copy files either way when logged into either machine and, again, my backup-this-to-that cronjobs that run rsync seem to be working fine as well. I just discovered this last night when I went to rsync some files manually between these machines. The last time I did that was at least a few days ago and it worked fine then. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] almalinux?
Looking. Rocky was supposed to release something at the beginning of the month, but I haven't seen anything. -Frank -Original Message- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of mark Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:21 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] almalinux? Anyone looked into almalinux? I was sort of waiting for rocky, but I see from over the weekend on slashdot that almalinux stable is released. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem with chromium 89.0.4389.82
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:32:04 -0400 H wrote: > Is something at Google responsible for this problem? In one of your (numerous) previous messages you said that Firefox wasn't working properly either, so I'd say it's not a problem with Google unless you're using their dns servers or something similar to that. It may be a problem with your ISP, it may be a problem local to your individual computer, or it may be a problem with your local network. You can isolate that using basic troubleshooting techniques. Or maybe Chromium is just plain broken. I get the impression that few people are using it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem with chromium 89.0.4389.82
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 21:32:03 -0400 H wrote: > Here are two typical examples: Javascript is disabled? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 issues.
Yeah, that is the conclusion I've come to as well. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 6:46 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 issues. On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:33:16 -0500 Frank Ramaekers wrote: > Okay, I made a foolish mistake a few months ago and upgraded my perfectly > running CentOS 7 to CentOS 8 and have been struggling ever since. How did you "upgrade" your computer? In-place upgrading from C7 to C8 isn't something that you're supposed to do. The best solution is/was/would have been to backup your data, then reformat your system with the new OS and restore your data. Since kernel version 3.10 is a C7 kernel, at the least you're still running a C7 kernel on what might otherwise be (part of?) a C8 installation, and who knows what else behind the scenes. You've apparently got something going here that's neither fish nor fowl; it's isn't exactly C7 and it's not really C8 either. Since you don't really know what's broken here, you'll find yourself spending an awful lot of time chasing gremlins. At this point, my suggestion would be take the recommended action. Backup your data, then reformat your system with the new OS and restore your data. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 issues.
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:33:16 -0500 Frank Ramaekers wrote: > Okay, I made a foolish mistake a few months ago and upgraded my perfectly > running CentOS 7 to CentOS 8 and have been struggling ever since. How did you "upgrade" your computer? In-place upgrading from C7 to C8 isn't something that you're supposed to do. The best solution is/was/would have been to backup your data, then reformat your system with the new OS and restore your data. Since kernel version 3.10 is a C7 kernel, at the least you're still running a C7 kernel on what might otherwise be (part of?) a C8 installation, and who knows what else behind the scenes. You've apparently got something going here that's neither fish nor fowl; it's isn't exactly C7 and it's not really C8 either. Since you don't really know what's broken here, you'll find yourself spending an awful lot of time chasing gremlins. At this point, my suggestion would be take the recommended action. Backup your data, then reformat your system with the new OS and restore your data. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 8 issues.
Okay, I made a foolish mistake a few months ago and upgraded my perfectly running CentOS 7 to CentOS 8 and have been struggling ever since. Looking to upgade to AlmaLinux or Rocky Linux. I have a number of things I need to clean up on this system before attempting a upgrade. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can clean/straighten this out: grub2-common.noarch 1:2.02-90.el8_3.1 BaseOS grub2-pc-modules.noarch 1:2.02-90.el8_3.1 BaseOS grub2-tools-minimal.x86_64 1:2.02-90.el8_3.1 BaseOS grubby.x86_64 8.40-41.el8 BaseOS kernel-abi-whitelists.noarch 4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3 BaseOS kernel-debug-devel.x86_64 4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3 BaseOS kernel-devel.x86_64 4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3 BaseOS libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-3.el8 epel libgdiplus-devel.x86_64 6.0.5-0.xamarin.1.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libpwquality.x86_64 1.4.0-9.el8 BaseOS lz4.x86_64 1.8.3-2.el8 BaseOS t1lib.x86_64 5.1.2-28.el8 epel Obsoleting Packages centos-linux-release.noarch 8.3-1.2011.el8 BaseOS centos-release.x86_64 8.2-2.2004.0.2.el8 @BaseOS centos-linux-release.noarch 8.3-1.2011.el8 BaseOS centos-repos.x86_64 8.2-2.2004.0.2.el8 @BaseOS libgdiplus0.x86_64 3.12-1 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 4.2-0.xamarin.2.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 5.6-0.xamarin.1.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 5.6-0.xamarin.2.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 5.6.1-0.xamarin.3.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 6.0.2-0.xamarin.1.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 6.0.4-0.xamarin.1.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel libgdiplus0.x86_64 6.0.5-0.xamarin.1.epel7 download.mono-project.com_repo_centos_ libgdiplus.x86_64 6.0.4-2.el8 @epel I'm unable to update grub2/grubby: dnf update grubby Last metadata expiration check: 0:46:20 ago on Fri 02 Apr 2021 08:57:14 AM CDT. Error: Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected packages: kernel (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting packages or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' to use not only best candidate packages) ..also for some reason, my kernel packages are being installed but the system is not booting to them: ls /boot/vmlin* /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-3e806a41305047db81c0e9f9b9a4e36c /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-240.10.1.el8_3.x86_64 /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64 /boot/vmlinuz-3.10.0-1127.8.2.el7.x86_64 /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-240.1.1.el8_3.x86_64 .but it always boots to: uname -r 3.10.0-1127.8.2.el7.x86_64 I found on the internet that this "The operations would.." Message was because of a kernel file in a protected.d (either yum or dnf), but I checked and it doesn't exist. H E L P (TIA) -Frank ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] older versions of Centos
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 15:58:08 -0600 R C wrote: > is there an archive where ISOs of older versions of Centos are kept? https://vault.centos.org/ -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Cups - weird interaction with the Internet
I have Centos 6 machine that I use for a cups printer server. (Yes, I know, but it's working fine for what it's for at the moment.) My ISP lost its connection to the network that printer server is on. While the outside Internet service was unavailable I sent a print job to the printer on that server and nothing printed even though the print server and the machine I sent the job from are on the same lan and are actually connected to the same router. The job appeared to be sent from the originating machine (but timed out, as shown below), and running lpq and lpq -a on the server showed "no entries" (because it timed out for some reason). I did this a few times and even rebooted the server and always the same thing. Job sent, "no entries" on the server. The my ISP's connection came back and blammo! All of a sudden I got a ton of sheets printed, everything that I had been trying to print for the previous ten minutes. Here is what appears to be a relevant portion of the log on the machine that was sending the job to the print server: Mar 30 13:05:06 mutt cupsd[1443]: Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/implicit class (PID 951459) Mar 30 13:05:06 mutt cupsd[1443]: REQUEST localhost - root "POST /admin/ HTTP/1. 1" 200 245 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok Mar 30 13:05:07 mutt cupsd[1443]: Job completed. Mar 30 13:06:02 mutt cupsd[1443]: Job submission timed out. So what happened here? Why would cups care if it has a connection to the outside world when it's just printing a job sent to it from the local lan? The connection between the machine originating the print job and the print server timed out even though all of the relevant traffic was going over the lan. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to find out what's eating the bandwidth
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:14:16 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Is this a home network or a business one? It's a really basic setup "routers from Staples" (dlink and tplink brands I think) plugged into the ISP's modems. > You're right that you generally can't see everything from just any computer > on a network, at least if it's switched. You need to watch from your > gateway. Then I'm outta luck for doing this sort of thing since the gateways are the tplink and dlink routers. I thought that might be the case. Thanks for the answers, guys! It isn't what I wanted to hear, but now I know more about this than I did before. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How to find out what's eating the bandwidth
Is there a program that will tell me what's eating the bandwidth on a lan? I'm thinking of something that would tell me that a.b.c.d is using so many mbps and a.b.c.e is using this many and so on. Or can just-another-computer-on-the-network actually see that sort of information? I don't know enough about the low level nuts and bolts of networking to know if it has that kind of access. I'm really just interested in volume of traffic per attached device rather than specific origin/destination information if that's easier to obtain. This way if something is eating the network I can find out what it is without having to start unplugging cables and so on to find out when it stops. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Festival for Centos 8
Johnny Hughes has compiled festival (the speech synthesis thing) for Centos 8. https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2246 I could download it directly from that webpage, but I'm wondering what repo it's in. I don't see any repo listed there, and dnf search festival returns no results on my computer. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] R730xd & SD card identfication
On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:58:16 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I wondered the same thing? I used a usb sd card reader adapter and put > attached it to a usb port on the same machine and used gparted to > format an xfs partition on it. Is xfs a valid format for a sdcard? (I really don't know.) I would reformat it as fat32 and see what happens. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] R730xd & SD card identfication
On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 11:17:19 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I have used lsblk, fdisk -l, and 'dmesg | tail' none of which > demonstrate that the Centos 8 host is recognizing the SD card. Is the card formatted? Can you format it on that computer? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:53:47 +0100 Simon Matter wrote: > Are my mirrors broken or incomplete? I just tried dnf search kmail and it didn't find anything, so I guess that stuff is simply not there. I personally use the Mate desktop from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ on all of my computers and it works fine, if Mate is lightweight enough for your purposes. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 19:05:08 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new > list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people. Me three? I agree that sounds like a very reasonable action and a real solution. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500 Jonathan Billings wrote: 1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a technical background understand that clarity and precision are important when posting a question or observation or asking for advice. 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of on-topic threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue. Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing some aspect of Centos? > > You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be > worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics. In your opinion. On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and I'd be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any significant way since a question that might today be asked about Centos will be asked tomorrow about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in the traffic, just a change in the subject line. > You want a generic > rhel clone list? Create one and post an announcement about it. You're welcome to do that if that's your calling. By all means, be my guest, and so on. Personally, I'm quite content using the mailing lists that I've been using for years. If I really have to sign up for some other mailing lists then I can do that though it's not really my first choice of actions. I really have no desire to run a mailing list of my own. Again, though, you're welcome to undertake that if you wish and I might even be convinced to sign up for it. > If you want to talk about Rocky or Oracle Linux, use their lists. This list > is for CentOS. Since neither you or I are the list manager, all we can do is express an opinion. I've expressed mine, you've expressed yours, and a few other folks have chimed in too. And we'll all get to find out what happens as time goes on. > If you have a question that is > codebase specific, then just ask it without talking about the distro it came > from, but as soon as it becomes clear that it is infrastructure related, keep > it on the appropriate list. And after going through all of the above, you ultimately agree with me after all. I generally read just the parts of this mailing list that are of interest to me, and most questions and observations that I see here are about specific programs/setups/why-did-this-just-explode. Unless they're buried in some of the threads that I skip over because they don't seem relevant to what I'm doing, I see very few questions about infrastructure and the like. Well, up until about two months ago, that is. And I'm pretty sure the infrastructure stuff will calm down again after the big change-over at the end of this year. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 21:53:01 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > I agree with your sentiment, John, but the fact that folks fled is due to > CentOS (owned by RedHat, of course) doing. And they use most logical way for > their discussion: the CentOS refugees ask their kin in quite logical place: > CentOS list, where they all were prospering in the past. We'll see discussion of Rocky Linux and Oracle Linux ramping up on this mailing list over the course of the next year for the above reason. You can stamp your little feet and say that such things don't belong here, or the better option is to read what you're interested in and participate in the discussions. Ignoring anything non-Centos and reading only Centos-specific threads will likely be possible too if you really insist since a majority of posters will probably put "Oracle" or "Rocky" or something like that into their subject lines anyway. Again, Centos/Rocky/Oracle all share a similar-to-identical codebase, so most of what's applicable to one will likely be applicable to all so I don't see it as being a big deal. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 12:03:30 + Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Apologies if this is considered unwelcome -- asking oracle question in > centos group -- but a lot of centos Vs oracle is going on here so hoping > this will not be shot down. Speaking for myself only, I have no problem with anyone posting Oracle Linux questions, answers or solutions in this mailing list. I think that as time goes on, OL and Rocky Linux will start to get more discussion and coverage here. Since they are all very similar to each other, most of the solutions for one will likely be applicable to all anyway and if there's a better alternative offered on one of the others, then that's worth knowing as well. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Amazon Alexa on CentOS 7 - how?
Hi, I am looking for an app for CentOS that would enable me to control my Alexa compatible devices from my KDE desktop. Currently, I have to use an iPad for that. I found an app called Alexa installable via snap, but it had not been updated since 2017 and I could not find any detailed info about it. Is there an app out there that would allow me to do this? Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CESA-2021:0221 Important CentOS 7 sudo Security Update
Hi, Is there a reason why the update is not tagged as "security"? yum --security update sudo ... --> sudo-1.8.23-10.el7_9.1.x86_64 from updates removed (updateinfo) --> sudo-1.8.23-9.el7.x86_64 from @base removed (updateinfo) No packages needed for security; 1 packages available ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:05:54 + Phil Perry wrote: > Let me rephrase then. If you were installing Windows on that machine for > your customer, who would 'own' the licence - you or your customer? I'd have the customer buy it, just like I have the customer buy the hardware today. My usual practice is to give the customer a shopping list. "Here's what you need. Let me know when you have one." I don't do hardware at all. Any parts or repaired units that I pick up from the computer store are billed to the customer, not to me. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:17:17 + Phil Perry wrote: > I'm assuming your customer has the relationship with Red Hat and > entitlement to 16 free copies, and you are their sub-contracted IT > professional responsible for installation and maintaining / supporting > that installation. That's a big assumption to make. I set up systems for businesses who want "a computer that does job x". They don't know, care, or want to know what it runs on as long as the thing logs the production or makes the press crank on cue. "Here's your appliance", and they throw it in a corner and maybe someone blows the dust off of it every couple of years when they're going by with a vacuum. They don't want a relationship with Red Hat", and probably wouldn't even know what that is if I told them about it. "Hey Frank, this thing just quit. Make it work again." That's all the involvement they want in the IT end of things. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:51:09 + Jamie Burchell wrote: > So RH could make it difficult for downstream projects such a Rocky Linux. I don't imagine Redhat will go out of their way to make it easy for Rocky Linux. But there's a point beyond which they can't go without contravening the GPL (and other licenses) so they couldn't do that legally, and there's also a point beyond which they'll alienate more of their customers. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:15:28 +0100 Simon Matter wrote: > OL specific stuff like UEK Here might be a good place to ask a question that I haven't really found a definitive answer to. What, exactly, is the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel? RHEL/Centos 8 has kernel version 4.18. The current Fedora kernel is 5.8. The current kernel listed on the main page of kernel.org is 5.10. Where does UEK 5.14.x fit in here? Is it a fixed/enhanced/customized version of the current kernel on kernel.org, is it something to do with Fedora, or is it something entirely different and unrelated that runs on Oracle's own versioning scheme? And on that note, what does UEK do for you that the standard RHEL kernel doesn't? Would the average schmoe like me actually gain anything by running UEK over the standard Redhat kernel if I'm not running stuff like the Oracle database? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:17:04 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > I tried Oracle Linux. After installation it took forever to update yum > database, or do you yum search. Also: I didn't find mirrors... All this > sort of ruled it out for me. Mind that I have 1 Gbps network... So far I've installed Oracle Linux on one laptop. What I got was exactly what I expected to get, and I didn't have any issues at all. "dnf upgrade" worked exactly as expected and at pretty much exactly the same speed as it does on Centos, too. But that's just one installation. I haven't done anything else with OL yet at all. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:57:19 -0600 Scott Techlist wrote: > So this will muddy the waters for the spin-offs like Rocky Linux, or kill > them? I'd assume at least it would dilute who'd need an alternate Centos > replacement except those with more than 16 servers. Or did I misunderstand > the announcement? I don't see how this would create any issues for Rocky Linux and the like. The new RHEL terms still require annual license activations (for every installation I think) and that's a point of friction that doesn't exist with Linux installations that are actually free. With this new offering I've got to count my installations, track which ones I've torn down, which ones I've updated, which ones I've scrapped, which ones I'm running in a VM and which ones that I've installed on an "appliance" in the dusty corner to running a printing press, and when I get to the sixteenth installation then I need to pay up or start decommissioning stuff Or I could use a license-not-required distribution like Rocky or Oracle and avoid all of that. I've got a number of machines with certain clients who bring their machine back to me every year or two (or whenever they figure they can spare it and happen to be heading this way) for updating. I might not see one of those machines for a few years; they may not have any Internet connection in the field so it could be interesting if the machines tell them (or me) to buzz off because the license has expired. If there were no other options then I guess there would have to be a way figured out to make this work anyway, but there are options and those options are certainly more attractive than dealing with license activations and all of the joy surrounding that sort of thing. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to reset the USB subsystem?
On 1/15/21 5:53 AM, Bob Marcan wrote: Okay, here we go: $ wget https://github.com/gregkh/usbutils/raw/master/usbreset.c --2021-01-15 11:33:30-- https://github.com/gregkh/usbutils/raw/master/usbreset.c Resolving proxy (proxy)... 192.168.1.10 Connecting to proxy (proxy)|192.168.1.10|:8080... connected. Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gregkh/usbutils/master/usbreset.c [following] --2021-01-15 11:33:30-- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gregkh/usbutils/master/usbreset.c Connecting to proxy (proxy)|192.168.1.10|:8080... connected. Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 4084 (4.0K) [text/plain] Saving to: ‘usbreset.c’ 100%[==>] 4,084 --.-K/s in 0s 2021-01-15 11:33:30 (51.0 MB/s) - ‘usbreset.c’ saved [4084/4084] $ gcc -o usbreset usbreset.c $ ./usbreset Usage: usbreset : - reset by product and vendor id usbreset BBB/DDD - reset by bus and device number usbreset "Product" - reset by product name Devices: Number 001/002 ID 04d9:1400 Number 006/002 ID 090c:1000 Flash Drive FIT Fantastic! Thanks Cheers Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to reset the USB subsystem?
On 1/14/21 3:00 PM, Zsolt SZ wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:22 PM Frank Bures wrote: Is there a way how to reset the USB subsystem the same way one can restart networking or X without the necessity to reboot? I am using Debian but the usbutils package has the usbreset application which works great for me. I had issues with my DVB-C USB receiver and usbreset did the task quite well. This one, there is RPM as well: http://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=usbutils Unfortunately, the RPM package for CentOS 7 does not contain usbreset. Cheers Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to reset the USB subsystem?
On 1/14/21 8:01 PM, H wrote: 22 ProStream video camera working on my Lenovo Thinkstation running CentOS 7. The BIOS was updated and the motherboard was replaced to no avail. I could then confirm that the camera worked fine if I booted Ubuntu Live, hence no hardware issue with the computer, nor the camera which by the way worked fine on a laptop also running CentOS 7. Since the USB subsystem did not recognize the camera when plugged in I reported this as a kernel/USB subsystem bug to RedHat. For some reason they made the bug private and I have not heard any more about it being worked on... Howewer, two or so weeks ago I stumbled across https://zedt.eu/tech/linux/restarting-usb-subsystem-centos/ and used this procedure to reset the USB subsystem. This gets the camera working - most of the time... The OP may want to try the same thing. Thanks a bunch. I'll try this when the printer USB port goes dead again. Cheers Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How to reset the USB subsystem?
Hi, my USB connected printer goes into deep space from time to time probably due to a HW problem on the MoBo. Is there a way how to reset the USB subsystem the same way one can restart networking or X without the necessity to reboot? Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Reboot/shutdown without login
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:23:04 -0800 Kenneth Porter wrote: > Now I'd like to allow someone to > shut it down at the console without logging in. How do you want the person to shut it down without logging in? Some computers have a "smart" power switch pushbutton that you can program to do a shutdown or a reboot depending on how long you hold the button down. Otherwise you'll need at least a keyboard, or possibly something like a joystick or a mouse button? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 21:32:18 + Jamie Burchell wrote: > The uncertainty is frustrating and unsettling. I certainly agree with you on this point! Personally, while I haven't made an actual decision on which way I'm going with my own projects, I'm currently leaning toward Oracle Linux. I installed it on a laptop a couple of days ago and what I got was exactly what I get when I install Centos on a laptop. Even my little script to convert a stock installation into my custom setup worked as-is, and what I ended up with was exactly what I was expecting to see. I don't have any particular love for Oracle, but since they pay X number of people to keep Oracle Linux current with RHEL and updated, they shouldn't have any problems with burn-out or a lack of long-term interest on the part of volunteers that may (or may not) become an issue over the course of time with a community-driven distribution like Rocky. But for the moment I'm more-or-less just sitting on my hands, waiting to see how all of this shakes out over the course of the next few months before I take any action to change anything. Frankly, I'm kind of hoping that Rocky turns out to be "the new Centos", but it seems too early in the game to make the decision to depend on it. That may change over the course of the next few months. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recover removed data in XFS
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:15:49 + Gestió Servidors wrote: > Hi, > > I manage an HPC Cluster that runs CentOS-7 and shares some mount points. All > shares are formated in XFS. Is there anyway to recover removed data? https://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Does_the_filesystem_have_an_undelete_capability.3F There's also this, but I don't know anything about it: https://github.com/ianka/xfs_undelete -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:25:50 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing > you've > done as a system administrator ? Cleaning up some obsolete users on a system that accepts remote ssh logins and somehow managing to remove my own ssh key too. Which I discovered about ten minutes later when I went to log in again and found that I had locked myself out. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers > on public mailing lists ? You can't. He's out of the office. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Gnote equivalent in CentOS 8
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 11:04:26 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: > In CentOS 8, is there an equivalent for the gnote application? I personally use vimwiki. Have you tried compiling the Fedora srpm on your Centos box? A lot of stuff that you might want to install on Centos can be compiled with few or no changes in many cases. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sound/missing sof firmware in CentOS since 8.4
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:56:49 -0800 Kay Schenk wrote: > Now on to other issues -- playing .wav files without benefit of GUI. sox-14.4.2.0-29.el8.x86_64 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Software raid Oddity
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:57:13 -0700 Paul R. Ganci via CentOS wrote: > My gut suggests that the raid array was never degraded and that my > system (i.e. cat /proc/mdstat) was lying to me. Any Opinions? I wonder if it's a ram failure in either the main computer or the drive controller. An intermittent ram failure (or cold solder joint or something equally hard to track down) could cause all manner of un-repeatable weirdness. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future
I may be cynical, but I think this is a business decision. By gaining control of CentOS, RedHat gained control of its biggest (apparent) competitor. This action should increase the value of RedHat. A few years later, IBM buys RedHat for a staggering 34 BILLION dollars. I would expect that before the purchase, there is an internal "PowerPoint" slide discussing the elimination of CentOS Linux. Despite the commentary otherwise, I believe CentOS Stream is a type of "beta" release. RedHat can release changes into CentOS Stream to make sure it is all good before the point release of RHEL to the paying customers. Or maybe not. FCS On 12/15/20 10:59 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/15/20 7:59 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: Why would RedHat invest millions more in buying the CentOS process just to have CentOS act as the beta? Indeed. Often, when you can't find a reasonable answer to a question, it is because the premise of the question itself is wrong. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle Linux - oracle-epel vs epel - dnf priority
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:57:53 -0500 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Having done this for years.. choose one or the other. Do NOT mix the two. ... > In the case of nearly 1:1 repos, you > will end up with it working 95%-99% of the time and then burning down the > house. That's pretty much what I was afraid of. I guess the smart move would be to run OL along with the fedora-epel and not bother with the oracle-epel then. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Oracle Linux - oracle-epel vs epel - dnf priority
I'd like to run this by you guys and get your opinion. For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least doing some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with the fact that the oracle-el-epel apparently doesn't have all of the packages that are in the fedora-el-epel that we all know and love. It makes sense to me to use the oracle epel with OL to the greatest extent possible simply because it's part of OL. To get around the missing package issue, what about setting up both oracle-epel and fedora-epel, and then using the dnf priorities to pick the stuff from oracle-epel first and if it's not there then grab it from fedora-epel. One issue that I can see (though it may not be an actual issue) is the way the priorities setting works: QUOTE: priority integer The priority value of this repository, default is 99. If there is more than one candidate package for a particular operation, the one from a repo with the lowest priority value is picked, possibly despite being less convenient otherwise (e.g. by being a lower version). END OF QUOTE By setting fedora-epel to a lower priority, the if a package we want is only in fedora-epel, we'll grab it from there. But if that package has a dependency on another package version X that can be found in fedora-epel and for some reason oracle-epel supplies only package version X-1, what happens then? Is dnf smart enough to pick the higher-versioned (and required) package from fedora-epel even though it has a lower priority. I'll try to explain that again. I want to install Foo, which is only in fedora-epel. Foo requires Bar version 2.0. Bar 2.0 exists in fedora-epel, but oracle-epel has only Bar version 1.0. What happens then? Does dnf see that Foo requires Bar-2.0 and get it from fedora-epel even though it has a lower priority? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Oracle Linux 8 - short experiment with install and basic setup of Mate Desktop
So after reading other folks' opinions of an Oracle Linux 8 (thanks again, Nicolas!) trial installation, I decided to crank up a Virtual Box session and try an install myself. As others have stated, what you get when you install OL8 is identical in every way to what you see when installing Centos 8; literally the only difference is the logo and the default desktop background. There are no demands for registration or anything else when you install OL8. It's exactly the same experience as installing Centos 8. Since I use Mate on my computers (installed from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ ) I immediately decided to see if I can get that going. I ran into two small issues, both easily dealt with. First, the PowerTools repo doesn't seem to exist under that name on OL8. It's called ol8_codeready_builder, for some reason. "dnf-config-manager --set-enabled ol8_codeready_builder" works fine and gets us where we need to be. A slightly more serious issue is that the oracle-epel, found through the rpm named oracle-epel-release-el8, appears to be less complete that the original Fedora epel found at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-8.noarch.rpm. Mate requires ImageMagick as a dependency for caja-image-converter and if you have oracle-epel installed it can't find ImageMagick. The solution (at least the solution that I used, which worked) is just to delete the oracle-epel-release-el8 rpm and install epel-release-latest-8 rpm instead. Then the Mate desktop can be installed on OL8 from the copr rpms listed above. Ultimately, the take-away here seems to be that if you decide to use OL8 instead of Centos 8 you'll be better advised to stick with "real" epel and not the oracle epel since there appears to be at least some stuff missing on the oracle epel. After I jumped through those minor hoops, what I ended up with was an Oracle Linux 8 installation with a Mate desktop and literally everything looks and works identical to what I already have with Centos 8. (An issue that I haven't seen anyone address yet is this. It's my understanding that epel builds their stuff on the current RHEL. Therefore the upcoming Centos Stream might get out-of-sync with whatever epel is building on at any given point in time.) -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:29:08 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Here's my take on it: > > https://blog.microlinux.fr/migration-centos-oracle-linux/ That's a really excellent article, Nicholas. Thanks ever so much for posting about your experience. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:06:36 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really > quote him publicly, but since I've already had some good experiences with OL > ten years ago (when I installed the local motorway company's servers), I guess > I'll just adopt a pragmatic approach and gradually move my servers to Oracle > Linux. I would be very interested in any observations or insights you can offer in regard to Oracle Linux and your experiences with it. > BTW, migration script works nicely on 7.x and 8.x: > > https://github.com/oracle/centos2ol Now that's an extremely useful thing to know. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:34:55 +0100 Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > But also Virtual Box is just, you know... Oracle... ;-) > > Sorry, I couldn't resist Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I typed that sentence, too. :) -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:21:43 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 10/12/2020 à 17:18, Frank Cox a écrit : > > Is it just the part at the bottom that says "Free to use, free to download, > > free to update. Always." > > That's it. I know Oracle's history, but I think for Oracle Linux, they may be > much better than their reputation. > > I'm currently fiddling around with it, and I like it very much. Plus there's a > nice script to turn an existing CentOS installation into an Oracle Linux > system. Ok, thanks! I think I'll play with it in a Virtual Box installation and see what goes on. It does look interesting. It's just, you know... Oracle -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:17:04 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 09/12/2020 à 17:52, Frank Cox a écrit : > > Is it necessary to create an Oracle account to do anything with Oracle Linux > > that can't be done without creating an account? In other words, does Oracle > > Linux demand that you log into Oracle to complete an installation, update > > that installation, install software from their epel-equivalent, or do any > > other of the regular sysadmin activities that one would expect to be doing? > > If I start installing Oracle Linux on my machines or my client's machines, > > what benefit do I get by signing up for an Oracle account that I don't have > > if I don't sign up for one? > > https://twitter.com/microlinux_eu/status/1336962009338933248 The image posted at that link is so blurred out that I just can't manage to read it. Is it just the part at the bottom that says "Free to use, free to download, free to update. Always." that I'm supposed to see or is there something more there? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] dnf script to cherry pick updates and maintain RHEL compatibility
Here's an idea, though I don't know if it would be practical. I assume that at some point everything that goes into RHEL and its "official" updates travels through the Stream ecosystem beforehand. So what about the idea of maintaining (somewhere) a list of official updates to RHEL as they are released, and then have some kind of a dnf enhancement or script that reads that list and updates a local Centos installation using only the rpms on the list and ignoring everything else. Stuff that's released to Stream would be downloaded and installed at the point where it has been released for RHEL and not before. That would (I think) keep your Centos installation in sync with RHEL. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:18:25 +0100 Rainer Traut wrote: > > Based on my extremely limited knowledge around Oracle Linux, it sounds like > > that might be a go-to solution for Centos refugees. > > > > But is it, really? > > > > Yes, it is better than Centos and in some aspects better than RHEL: > > - faster security updates than Centos, directly behind RHEl > - better kernels than RHEL and CentOS (UEKs) wih more features > - free to download (no subscription needed): > https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html > - free to use: > https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-8.html > - massive amount of extra packes and full rebuild of EPEL (same link): > https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-8.html You sound like you know what's what with Oracle Linux, so here are a few follow-up questions. Someone else on this list said that the reason he stopped installing it was because every time he did, he got snowed under with sales calls from Oracle. Have you found this to be the case? Is it necessary to create an Oracle account to do anything with Oracle Linux that can't be done without creating an account? In other words, does Oracle Linux demand that you log into Oracle to complete an installation, update that installation, install software from their epel-equivalent, or do any other of the regular sysadmin activities that one would expect to be doing? If I start installing Oracle Linux on my machines or my client's machines, what benefit do I get by signing up for an Oracle account that I don't have if I don't sign up for one? Does Oracle Linux have a free support and discussion mailing list similar to this one? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:12:50 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already > decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an > option. This sounds like a reasonable path forward, but I wonder if Oracle will simply follow Centos into the same "stream" thing. Prior to this point it's been a difference without any difference, but I wonder if Oracle actually re-creates RHEL or if they re-create Centos. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos? I'm asking because genuinely don't know; I've never paid any attention to Oracle's Linux offering before now. But today I've seen a couple of the folks here mention Oracle Linux and I see that Oracle even offers a script to convert Centos 7 to Oracle. Nothing about Centos 8 in that script, though. https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ That page seems to say that Oracle Linux is everything that Centos was prior to today's announcement. But someone else here just said that the first thing Oracle Linux does is to sign you up for an Oracle account. So, for people who know a lot more about these things than I do, what's the downside of using Oracle Linux versus Centos? I assume that things like epel/rpmfusion/etc will work just as they do under Centos since it's supposed to be bit-for-bit compatible like Centos was. What does the "sign up with Oracle" stuff actually do, and can you cancel, avoid, or strip it out if you don't want it? Based on my extremely limited knowledge around Oracle Linux, it sounds like that might be a go-to solution for Centos refugees. But is it, really? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Selecting a Desktop
gdm allows that. Click the little gear beside the login button and select the desktop you want. (The little gear shows up only when more than one desktop is actually installed and available for use.) On Sat, 05 Dec 2020 15:37:05 -0800 david wrote: > Folks > > Some of my users like GNOME, some like XFCE, and there's even a MATE > lover out there. And some would like to change desktops from time to > time. Is there some way to allow a user to choose her own > desktop? I can envision at least two ways this might be done: > > 1) Present a user with a command-line login, and have a program > (let's call it 'gui') so the user could type in "gui g" for gnome, > "gui m' for mate, and so on. > > 2) Present a uses with a gui login-in screen, which also includes a > desktop selector. > > Of course, it would only offer those desktops which are installed. > > Is there such? > > Gui-Confused > > David > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing SW RAID-1 with SSD RAID-1
On 11/23/20 10:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, I want to replace my hard drives based SW RAID-1 with SSD's. What would be the recommended procedure? Can I just remove one drive, replace with SSD and rebuild, then repeat with the other drive? I suggest to "mdadm --fail" one drive, then "mdadm --remove" it. After replacing the drive you can "mdadm --add" it. If you boot from the drives you also have to care for the boot loader. I guess this depends on how exactly the system is configured. Thanks, that's what I had in mind. Of course, I will rebuild grab2 after each iteration. Thanks Fra -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Replacing SW RAID-1 with SSD RAID-1
Hi, I want to replace my hard drives based SW RAID-1 with SSD's. What would be the recommended procedure? Can I just remove one drive, replace with SSD and rebuild, then repeat with the other drive? Thanks Frank -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Desktop Over NFS Home Blocked By Firewalld
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 12:07:40 -0500 Michael B Allen wrote: > So TCP src 760 to 41285. What's that? Apparently "that" is what you need to allow in order for your desktop to work. What it is actually doing, I'm not sure. Google tells me that port 760 has something to do with Kerberos registration. -- Can we uninstall 2020 and install it again? This one has a virus. MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Desktop Over NFS Home Blocked By Firewalld
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:05:25 -0500 Michael B Allen wrote: > So firewalld is blocking something that the Fedora desktop needs. What > is it? What services do I need to add to firewalls? https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/enable-firewalld-logging-for-denied-packets-on-linux/ -- Can we uninstall 2020 and install it again? This one has a virus. MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with VirtualBox on CentOS 7
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:46:43 -0500 Jerry Geis wrote: > When I run Virtualbox my VM does not show. So I > desire to add it back. My Centos 8 Virtualbox image directory contains the following files: $ ls -R .: 'Centos 8.vbox' 'Centos 8.vbox-prev' 'Centos 8.vdi' Logs Snapshots ./Logs: VBox.log VBox.log.1 VBox.log.2 VBox.log.3 ./Snapshots: 2020-11-06T23-19-52-568532000Z.sav {be3832a9-9a12-474b-b1dc-74841335520a}.vdi You don't appear to have any .vbox or .vdi files in your directory, so whatever you have ain't Virtualbox. It says vmware in your log filenames, so maybe you should be setting up vmware instead of Virtualbox. (They are different things.) -- Can we uninstall 2020 and install it again? This one has a virus. MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum update security updates only
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:52:08 -0800 Eric Chennells wrote: > Does anyone know what's going on here? That is unsupported by Centos. So the short answer is, you can't do that. Any particular reason you can't just update your system fully? -- Can we uninstall 2020 and install it again? This one has a virus. MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to get dummy interfaces to persist across reboots in CentOS 8
A colleague actually figured this out. There is an entry in /lib/modprobe.d/systemd.conf that seems to override any other user configurations applied. options dummy numdummies=0 ...needs to be removed from this file (or at least modified, but since my configuration already lays that down in /etc/modprobe.d this just needs to be removed for my purposes). On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:34 PM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS wrote: > > Requirement is a very strong word , but you should consider using it and here > is a short demo why: > > - By default, RHEL uses NetworkManager to configure and manage network > connections, and the /usr/sbin/ifup and /usr/sbin/ifdown scripts use > NetworkManager to process ifcfg files in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ > directory. > > [root@system ~]# ls -l /usr/sbin/ifup > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 22 21 окт 21,29 /usr/sbin/ifup -> > /etc/alternatives/ifup > > [root@system ~]# alternatives --list | grep ifup > ifupauto/usr/libexec/nm-ifup > > [root@system ~]# rpm -qf /usr/libexec/nm-ifup > NetworkManager-1.22.8-5.el8_2.x86_64 > > - the old networks-scripts have been deprecated and are not the defaults > anymore > > > It's about time to switch to NM, but you got some 5-8 years till next EL > release. > > Best Regards, > Strahil Nikolov > > > > В сряда, 28 октомври 2020 г., 12:47:12 Гринуич+2, Frank Even > написа: > > > > > > No. Network Manager is always disabled on our builds since at least > Cent5 days. The network stack has always been able to be managed > properly without relying on Network Manager. Is that now an absolute > requirement? It never has been prior. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS > wrote: > > > > Have you tried to use NetworkManager ? > > After all ,anything network related should be done by it. > > > > [root@system ~]# nmcli connection add con-name dummy0 ifname dummy0 type > > dummy > > Connection 'dummy0' (9fdd74fa-c143-4991-9bac-0e542704ac89) successfully > > added. > > > > [root@system ~]# reboot > > Shared connection to glustera closed. > > > > > > [root@system ~]# uptime > > 03:23:44 up 0 min, 1 user, load average: 1,57, 0,48, 0,17 > > [root@glustera ~]# nmcli connection show > > NAMEUUID TYPE DEVICE > > dummy0 9fdd74fa-c143-4991-9bac-0e542704ac89 dummydummy0 > > > > > > [root@system ~]# ip a s dummy0 > > 3: dummy0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state > > UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 > >link/ether ce:c9:83:97:10:ee brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > >inet6 fe80::599:a978:9457:df10/64 scope link noprefixroute > > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > > > P.S.: This is the first time I hear about dummy interfaces. What are those > > used for ? > > > > Best Regards, > > Strahil Nikolov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В вторник, 27 октомври 2020 г., 02:42:06 Гринуич+2, Frank Even > > написа: > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? It's rather annoying that I can't get these to > > persist across reboots without using some kind of helper script. > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 6:37 AM Frank Even > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, hoping someone can help me out here. > > > > > > I cannot get dummy interfaces on a new Cent8 build to persist across > > > reboots. > > > > > > On Cent7 - this is the process I use: > > > > > > Create Dummies: > > > # cat /etc/modules-load.d/dummy.conf > > > dummy > > > # cat /etc/modprobe.d/dummyopts.conf > > > options dummy numdummies=4 > > > # ip link add dummy0 type dummy > > > ## - repeating a/ ascending dummyN adapters for as many needed > > > # service network start > > > # dracut -f > > > > > > Now this was different than even how 6 handled it, forget how I > > > finally dug that up (possible I even asked here). I've applied this > > > same configuration to a Cent8 box I'm trying to stand up and it all > > > appears to work fine, but unlike the Cent7 boxes, when the Cent8 box > > > comes back up, all the dummy adapters are missing. I've been > > > searching all over trying to find some documentation on this to no > > > avail. I'm hoping someone has some suggestions here to help out. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Frank > > ___ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > ___ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos