Re: [CentOS-virt] OpenVZ variant

2014-04-03 Thread Lars Kurth
Hi Scott,

we are in the process of bootstrapping the Virtualization SIG and are 
working with the CentOS community to set it up. The intention is to work 
with anyone who has an interest to bring a specific virtualization 
technology to CentOS and who is willing to put enough time in to make 
their bit work. A lot of details are still open, such as whether there 
would be one CentOS virt variant covering all virt technologies (which 
is preferable to having several for a number of reasons), infrastructure 
questions, versions of packages for qemu, libvirt, ... interfaces to 
other SIGs and many more.

The next step is to set up the first meeting. We will make a proposal 
for dates and format shortly. I was out of the office for a while and am 
only just catching up with things that happened in the last month (such 
as the approval of the virt SIG).

 > This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the 
OpenVZ Users mailing list,
 > blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any OpenVZ 
users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not).
I am not aware of anyone from the OpenVZ community at this stage.

 > So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much 
OpenVZ interest there currently is
To be honest, I don't have a clue. The steps you have already taken 
should certainly give you an indication on how much interest there may 
be from the OpenVZ community. And possibly someone on this list may 
respond.

 > and how I might become a part of the effort? I know the virt-sig is 
probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ.
A good place to start would be to participate in our first meeting and 
on the list and take things from there. As an aside, I only just got 
write access to the wiki and we will be updating some of the information 
related the SIG (which is currently out-of-date).

Best Regards
Lars

On 03/04/2014 17:55, Scott Dowdle wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I was reading the LWN article from today (free to non-subscribers next 
> Thursday). Here's a subscriber link for those who might want to see it now:
>
> CentOS and Red Hat - http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/592723/485ea802859f6c36/
>
> I saw that Xen was mentioned as an area where CentOS went beyond RHEL with 
> CentOS 6... and being that I'm deeply in the OpenVZ community, I thought it 
> might be natural to have an OpenVZ CentOS Variant.  I just noticed that the 
> CentOS Virt-SIG page already mentions OpenVZ.  Is this only for the upcoming 
> CentOS 7 or would it be possible to produce a spin/remix that is CentOS 
> 6-based that includes the OpenVZ kernel and OpenVZ utils?
>
> Looking at the stats provided by the OpenVZ Project 
> (http://stats.openvz.org/) it is obvious that CentOS is the most popular 
> platform for both OpenVZ hosts and OpenVZ containers:
>
> Top  host   distros
> ---
> CentOS 56,725
> Scientific2,471
> RHEL  869
> Debian576
> Fedora111
> Ubuntu 82
> Gentoo 54
> openSUS  18
> ALT Linux10
> Sabayon 6
>
> and
>
> Top 10  CT  distros
> ---
> centos245,468
> debian106,350
> ubuntu 83,197
> OR  8,354
> gentoo  7,017
> pagoda  4,024
> scientific3,604
> fedora  3,173
> seedunlimited 1,965
>
> This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the OpenVZ 
> Users mailing list, blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if 
> any OpenVZ users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not).
>
> So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much OpenVZ 
> interest there currently is and how I might become a part of the effort?  I 
> know the virt-sig is probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ.
>
> TYL,

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[CentOS-virt] OpenVZ variant

2014-04-03 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings,

I was reading the LWN article from today (free to non-subscribers next 
Thursday). Here's a subscriber link for those who might want to see it now:

CentOS and Red Hat - http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/592723/485ea802859f6c36/

I saw that Xen was mentioned as an area where CentOS went beyond RHEL with 
CentOS 6... and being that I'm deeply in the OpenVZ community, I thought it 
might be natural to have an OpenVZ CentOS Variant.  I just noticed that the 
CentOS Virt-SIG page already mentions OpenVZ.  Is this only for the upcoming 
CentOS 7 or would it be possible to produce a spin/remix that is CentOS 6-based 
that includes the OpenVZ kernel and OpenVZ utils?

Looking at the stats provided by the OpenVZ Project (http://stats.openvz.org/) 
it is obvious that CentOS is the most popular platform for both OpenVZ hosts 
and OpenVZ containers:

Top  host   distros
---
CentOS   56,725
Scientific2,471
RHEL869
Debian  576
Fedora  111
Ubuntu   82
Gentoo   54
openSUS  18
ALT Linux10
Sabayon   6

and

Top 10  CT  distros
---
centos  245,468
debian  106,350
ubuntu   83,197
OR8,354
gentoo7,017
pagoda4,024
scientific3,604
fedora3,173
seedunlimited 1,965

This morning I sent out some feelers to the OpenVZ community (via the OpenVZ 
Users mailing list, blog.openvz.org, and the #openvz IRC channel) to see if any 
OpenVZ users were already working with the CentOS project (I'm not).

So does anyone that is part of this SIG care to tell me how much OpenVZ 
interest there currently is and how I might become a part of the effort?  I 
know the virt-sig is probably quite broad beyond OpenVZ.

TYL,
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Cleaning up virt SIG related wiki pages

2014-04-03 Thread Lars Kurth
On 03/04/2014 16:23, Johnny Hughes wrote:ars
> Lars:
>
> Register here:
> https://wiki.centos.org/UserPreferences
>
> Let me know when you can login and I'll update edit privs for both you
> and George.

Done. Sent you a private mail
Lars

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Cleaning up virt SIG related wiki pages

2014-04-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/03/2014 10:01 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I took a little bit of stock in light of preparing the re-launch of
> the Virtualization SIG as per the board decision recently and noticed
> that there are quite a few old and out-of-date wiki pages lying around
>
> In particular the following pages seem very old (Iast edited in 2007)
>
>   * http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization
>   * http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Packages
>
> I suppose these pages should link to
> http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/Xen4-01 and the actual SIG
> description as was discussed and approved by the CentOS board.
>
> I don't seem to be able to create an account on the wiki. Do I and
> George need to wait for someone to create it, or is there a way to
> self-sign up
> Regards
> Lars

Lars:

Register here:
https://wiki.centos.org/UserPreferences

Let me know when you can login and I'll update edit privs for both you
and George.




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Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen4CentOS: Unnecessary gpxe / ipxe obsoletes

2014-04-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/02/2014 10:42 AM, George Dunlap wrote:
> I installed CentOS6 with the xen4centos set of packages; then I tried
> to install KVM (for performance comparison), I got the following error
> in YUM:
>
> --> Processing Dependency: /usr/share/gpxe/e1000-0x100e.rom for
> package: 2:qemu-kvm-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.4.x86_64
> Package gpxe-roms-qemu is obsoleted by ipxe-roms-qemu, but obsoleting
> package does not provide for requirements
>
> I manually downloaded the gpxe package and installed it with no
> problems, so there are no actual conflicts in the files.  Thus, ipxe
> probably *shouldn't* obsolete gpxe -- there are no conflicts between
> the two, and ipxe doesn't provide what gpxe does.
>
> If I had already installed KVM, and was toying with the idea of giving
> Xen a spin, this may have been enough to deter me.
>
> I checked with the XenServer guys, and their version of ipxe doesn't
> obsolete gpxe; so that must have been something that was introduced in
> CentOS.
>
>  -George
>

OK, the repo here has ipxe that will install with qemu-kvm.

NOTE:  The seabios in the xen repo is much newer than the one in
CentOS-6 .. so we need to test this and make sure xen and kvm still work
before rolling into production repo .. here is the testing repo:

http://dev.centos.org/centos/6/xen-c6-RC1/

Lets get this tested and results posted on this list.



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[CentOS-virt] Cleaning up virt SIG related wiki pages

2014-04-03 Thread Lars Kurth

Hi all,

I took a little bit of stock in light of preparing the re-launch of the 
Virtualization SIG as per the board decision recently and noticed that 
there are quite a few old and out-of-date wiki pages lying around


In particular the following pages seem very old (Iast edited in 2007)

 * http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization
 * http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Packages

I suppose these pages should link to 
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/Xen4-01 and the actual SIG 
description as was discussed and approved by the CentOS board.


I don't seem to be able to create an account on the wiki. Do I and 
George need to wait for someone to create it, or is there a way to 
self-sign up

Regards
Lars
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen4CentOS: Unnecessary gpxe / ipxe obsoletes

2014-04-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/02/2014 06:36 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 04/02/2014 04:42 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
>
>> I checked with the XenServer guys, and their version of ipxe doesn't
>> obsolete gpxe; so that must have been something that was introduced in
>> CentOS.
> lets drop that obsoletes. its just something we picked up from the
> fedora rpms when we brought them in
>

I am taking that obsoletes out now



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