RE: Blackberry 101 for developers
You can also download the Blackberry IDE which has a Blackberry decice ROM to test on. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 July 2005 18:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blackberry 101 for developers Okay, cool, this is great stuff. Now, is there a preferred emulator (I just downloaded one from blackberry.com) that I can test this with, since I personally don't have one? Kevin Bridges wrote: > Start with the document structure below (strict xhtml compliance) and > use the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ as you develop. If you > make a change and validate immediately after you will be able to see > useful messages from the w3c explaining how you need to alter your design. > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> > > > > Untitled > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Champagne wrote: > > >>any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? >> >>Paul Vernon wrote: >> >> >> >>>XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now >>>access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device >>>should be no problems... >>> >>>Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOT: Blackberry 101 for developers
There are a few options for Blackberry applications using CF. For the most part, the Blackberry browser can be used which supports HTML "lite". You can also do "push" applications fairly easily with ColdFusion and the Mobile Data Service (MDS) on Blackberry Enterprise Server. There are a number of good references as well as a device simulator available at http://www.blackberry.com/developers/index.shtml Regards, Matt On 7/26/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ray, > > Most BlackBerry's have HTML browsers. Albeit usually in monochrome, > but HTML browsers none-the-less. So the simple answer could be to just > watch your page widths and d/l times. > > -Adam > > On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cool! > > > > My big question is, if I'm just submitting a simple form whose fields > > are just going to be emailed from the web server, is there any reason > > that I'd have to worry about other than display? I mean, it seems like > > once the info is pushed off the Blackberry, it should just be taken care > > of as it normally would on the web server side, then just fire back the > > (formatted) page that I specify... > > > > These are questions that I need to answer, but, we're waiting until we > > get an answer back from the CEO if this is the direction he really wants > > to go in before I proceed. I hope he does, as I'd love to learn some > > more of this stuff. > > > > Ray > > > > Rick Mason wrote: > > > Ray, > > > I have a friend who has done some Blackberry apps using > > > WML. I've seen some of his apps that use forms to submit info to a CF > > > backend. If I am not mistaken Ben Forta even has a book out on WML. > > > The other alternative on the newer Blackberries is Java. > > > Rick Mason > > > KnowledgeWatch > > > Got news? > > > > > > > > > On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Hey all: > > >> > > >>So, here's a question for some of you more savvy developers out there: > > >>how to I program a corporate web site to be viewable by a Blackberry? We > > >>have a client who's salesforce just got issued Blackberrys. They > > >>already have a web site with a form that they'd like to access via the > > >>Blackberry on the road. All I really need to do is to make the form > > >>work with a Blackberry display. Can someone out there that has done > > >>this before explain in brief how I'd tackle this seemingly easy project? > > >>I've never even touched a Blackberry before, so I'm not even sure > > >>where I'd start. I'm currently perusing the Blackberry web site, but > > >>figured I'd give the list a shout to maybe shorten my "catch up" time. > > >> > > >>Thanks... > > >> > > >>Ray > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212914 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOT: Blackberry 101 for developers
Ray, Most BlackBerry's have HTML browsers. Albeit usually in monochrome, but HTML browsers none-the-less. So the simple answer could be to just watch your page widths and d/l times. -Adam On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool! > > My big question is, if I'm just submitting a simple form whose fields > are just going to be emailed from the web server, is there any reason > that I'd have to worry about other than display? I mean, it seems like > once the info is pushed off the Blackberry, it should just be taken care > of as it normally would on the web server side, then just fire back the > (formatted) page that I specify... > > These are questions that I need to answer, but, we're waiting until we > get an answer back from the CEO if this is the direction he really wants > to go in before I proceed. I hope he does, as I'd love to learn some > more of this stuff. > > Ray > > Rick Mason wrote: > > Ray, > > I have a friend who has done some Blackberry apps using > > WML. I've seen some of his apps that use forms to submit info to a CF > > backend. If I am not mistaken Ben Forta even has a book out on WML. > > The other alternative on the newer Blackberries is Java. > > Rick Mason > > KnowledgeWatch > > Got news? > > > > > > On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hey all: > >> > >>So, here's a question for some of you more savvy developers out there: > >>how to I program a corporate web site to be viewable by a Blackberry? We > >>have a client who's salesforce just got issued Blackberrys. They > >>already have a web site with a form that they'd like to access via the > >>Blackberry on the road. All I really need to do is to make the form > >>work with a Blackberry display. Can someone out there that has done > >>this before explain in brief how I'd tackle this seemingly easy project? > >>I've never even touched a Blackberry before, so I'm not even sure > >>where I'd start. I'm currently perusing the Blackberry web site, but > >>figured I'd give the list a shout to maybe shorten my "catch up" time. > >> > >>Thanks... > >> > >>Ray > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOT: Blackberry 101 for developers
Cool! My big question is, if I'm just submitting a simple form whose fields are just going to be emailed from the web server, is there any reason that I'd have to worry about other than display? I mean, it seems like once the info is pushed off the Blackberry, it should just be taken care of as it normally would on the web server side, then just fire back the (formatted) page that I specify... These are questions that I need to answer, but, we're waiting until we get an answer back from the CEO if this is the direction he really wants to go in before I proceed. I hope he does, as I'd love to learn some more of this stuff. Ray Rick Mason wrote: > Ray, > I have a friend who has done some Blackberry apps using > WML. I've seen some of his apps that use forms to submit info to a CF > backend. If I am not mistaken Ben Forta even has a book out on WML. > The other alternative on the newer Blackberries is Java. > Rick Mason > KnowledgeWatch > Got news? > > > On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hey all: >> >>So, here's a question for some of you more savvy developers out there: >>how to I program a corporate web site to be viewable by a Blackberry? We >>have a client who's salesforce just got issued Blackberrys. They >>already have a web site with a form that they'd like to access via the >>Blackberry on the road. All I really need to do is to make the form >>work with a Blackberry display. Can someone out there that has done >>this before explain in brief how I'd tackle this seemingly easy project? >>I've never even touched a Blackberry before, so I'm not even sure >>where I'd start. I'm currently perusing the Blackberry web site, but >>figured I'd give the list a shout to maybe shorten my "catch up" time. >> >>Thanks... >> >>Ray >> >> >> > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212888 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOT: Blackberry 101 for developers
Ray, I have a friend who has done some Blackberry apps using WML. I've seen some of his apps that use forms to submit info to a CF backend. If I am not mistaken Ben Forta even has a book out on WML. The other alternative on the newer Blackberries is Java. Rick Mason KnowledgeWatch Got news? On 7/26/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey all: > > So, here's a question for some of you more savvy developers out there: > how to I program a corporate web site to be viewable by a Blackberry? We > have a client who's salesforce just got issued Blackberrys. They > already have a web site with a form that they'd like to access via the > Blackberry on the road. All I really need to do is to make the form > work with a Blackberry display. Can someone out there that has done > this before explain in brief how I'd tackle this seemingly easy project? > I've never even touched a Blackberry before, so I'm not even sure > where I'd start. I'm currently perusing the Blackberry web site, but > figured I'd give the list a shout to maybe shorten my "catch up" time. > > Thanks... > > Ray > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212887 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Blackberry 101 for developers
There is an area at http://www.blackberry.net/developers/index.shtml I'd recommend looking at http://www.blackberry.net/developers/started/index.shtml and http://www.blackberry.net/developers/downloads/simulators/index.shtml Ray Champagne wrote: >Okay, cool, this is great stuff. > >Now, is there a preferred emulator (I just downloaded one from >blackberry.com) that I can test this with, since I personally don't have >one? > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212854 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Blackberry 101 for developers
Okay, cool, this is great stuff. Now, is there a preferred emulator (I just downloaded one from blackberry.com) that I can test this with, since I personally don't have one? Kevin Bridges wrote: > Start with the document structure below (strict xhtml compliance) and > use the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ as you develop. If you > make a change and validate immediately after you will be able to see > useful messages from the w3c explaining how you need to alter your design. > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> > > > > Untitled > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Champagne wrote: > > >>any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? >> >>Paul Vernon wrote: >> >> >> >>>XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now >>>access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device >>>should be no problems... >>> >>>Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212853 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Blackberry 101 for developers
Also look at http://www.tinkertech.net/tutor/xhtml/ Ray Champagne wrote: >any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? > >Paul Vernon wrote: > > >>XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now >>access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device >>should be no problems... >> >>Paul >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212852 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Blackberry 101 for developers
Start with the document structure below (strict xhtml compliance) and use the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ as you develop. If you make a change and validate immediately after you will be able to see useful messages from the w3c explaining how you need to alter your design. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> Untitled Ray Champagne wrote: >any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? > >Paul Vernon wrote: > > >>XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now >>access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device >>should be no problems... >> >>Paul >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212850 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Blackberry 101 for developers
There is a good article I just read that mentions how to do this (at a high level only) with some new features in CF7. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4430 Lorne -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 26, 2005 09:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blackberry 101 for developers any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? Paul Vernon wrote: > XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now > access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry > device should be no problems... > > Paul > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212849 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Blackberry 101 for developers
any online resouces that you use that you'd recommend to get me started? Paul Vernon wrote: > XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now > access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device > should be no problems... > > Paul > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212847 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Blackberry 101 for developers
XHTML + CSS is the way to go... I've done this on sites that I can now access on my mobile phone and that has a tiny screen... A Blackberry device should be no problems... Paul ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212843 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
SOT: Blackberry 101 for developers
Hey all: So, here's a question for some of you more savvy developers out there: how to I program a corporate web site to be viewable by a Blackberry? We have a client who's salesforce just got issued Blackberrys. They already have a web site with a form that they'd like to access via the Blackberry on the road. All I really need to do is to make the form work with a Blackberry display. Can someone out there that has done this before explain in brief how I'd tackle this seemingly easy project? I've never even touched a Blackberry before, so I'm not even sure where I'd start. I'm currently perusing the Blackberry web site, but figured I'd give the list a shout to maybe shorten my "catch up" time. Thanks... Ray ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212842 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
