RE: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
> I am doing some sandboxing. I can allow a developer/admin in > one department administer their own CF Instance for that department. > Especially during their development. Well, in that case just try it out and let us know how it works! I don't know anyone who's done this before. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
>> Well, sure, but again, what would you gain? If any one of your CF applications failed, the whole thing would fail. For some apps, I am willing to accept this mostly because I am dealing with a system that has limited resources and I don't konw when we will be purchasing more RAM. >>I guess I just don't see the point. If the applications don't need a separate JRun server, why would they need a separate CF server? I am doing some sandboxing. I can allow a developer/admin in one department administer their own CF Instance for that department. Especially during their development. Thanks for your comments. Troy Dave Watts wrote: > > Would resources (memory, cpu, etc) be saved by clumping them > > into one JRun server? > > Well, sure, but again, what would you gain? If any one of your CF > applications failed, the whole thing would fail. > > > ColdFusion application of any significate size and importance > > would probably get their own JRun Server instance. > > I guess I just don't see the point. If the applications don't need a > separate JRun server, why would they need a separate CF server? > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > phone: 202-797-5496 > fax: 202-797-5444 > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
I am considering giving a department their own ColdFusion instance. Each department can create all their CF apps in one instance. For example: \WebApps \WebApps\deptA-ear \WebApps\deptA-ear\cfapp1-war \WebApps\deptA-ear\cfapp2-war \WebApps\deptB-ear \WebApps\deptB-ear\cfusion-war etc. I was under the impression that ColdFusion MX was a certified J2EE application. So I would presume that so long as each *.war has a unique context root, this would work fine, right? I do not understand the J2EE framework well enough. So far, it appears that I can run two ColdFusion *.ear under one JRun 4 instance. I am able to access the CF Administrator for each ColdFusion *.ear. I wonder how this will work with Flash Remote? Thanks, Troy Douglas Knudsen wrote: > why would small apps need their own CFAdmin and such? Seems to me > just leave them under the default cfusion server, put the big ones > under their own server instance. > > Doug > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:38:34 -0400, Troy Simpson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would resources (memory, cpu, etc) be saved by clumping them into one > > JRun server? > > Plus, I am talking about grouping very simple and small coldfusion > > applications together. > > ColdFusion application of any significate size and importance would > > probably get their own JRun Server instance. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Thanks, > > Troy > > > > > > > > Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > > Anyone understand much about the J2EE Framework like *.ear > > > > files, *.war files, etc. and how it all relates to one another? > > > > > > > > I was considering deploying multiple ColdFusion Applications > > > > under one JRun Server. For example: > > > > > > > > \WebApps > > > > \WebApps\app1-ear > > > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion1-war > > > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion2-war > > > > \WebApps\app2-ear > > > > \WebApps\app2-ear\cfusion-war > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > I would presume that all these coldfusion applications would > > > > remain autonomous and would have individual CFAdministrators. > > > > > > > > Do I have this correct? > > > > > > I'm not sure whether you can do this. Theoretically, I don't see > why you > > > couldn't, except that you'd have to manually edit configuration > files > > > to get > > > each CF application to listen on different ports. > > > > > > However, I'm not sure why you'd want to do this. If you did, > they'd all > > > compete for the same JVM resources, and wouldn't be isolated in > case of > > > failure at the JRun server itself. Why not just create multiple JRun > > > servers, one for each CF instance? > > > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > > phone: 202-797-5496 > > > fax: 202-797-5444 > > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
why would small apps need their own CFAdmin and such? Seems to me just leave them under the default cfusion server, put the big ones under their own server instance. Doug On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:38:34 -0400, Troy Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would resources (memory, cpu, etc) be saved by clumping them into one > JRun server? > Plus, I am talking about grouping very simple and small coldfusion > applications together. > ColdFusion application of any significate size and importance would > probably get their own JRun Server instance. > > What do you think? > > Thanks, > Troy > > > > Dave Watts wrote: > > > > Anyone understand much about the J2EE Framework like *.ear > > > files, *.war files, etc. and how it all relates to one another? > > > > > > I was considering deploying multiple ColdFusion Applications > > > under one JRun Server. For example: > > > > > > \WebApps > > > \WebApps\app1-ear > > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion1-war > > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion2-war > > > \WebApps\app2-ear > > > \WebApps\app2-ear\cfusion-war > > > etc. > > > > > > I would presume that all these coldfusion applications would > > > remain autonomous and would have individual CFAdministrators. > > > > > > Do I have this correct? > > > > I'm not sure whether you can do this. Theoretically, I don't see why you > > couldn't, except that you'd have to manually edit configuration files > > to get > > each CF application to listen on different ports. > > > > However, I'm not sure why you'd want to do this. If you did, they'd all > > compete for the same JVM resources, and wouldn't be isolated in case of > > failure at the JRun server itself. Why not just create multiple JRun > > servers, one for each CF instance? > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > phone: 202-797-5496 > > fax: 202-797-5444 > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
> Would resources (memory, cpu, etc) be saved by clumping them > into one JRun server? Well, sure, but again, what would you gain? If any one of your CF applications failed, the whole thing would fail. > ColdFusion application of any significate size and importance > would probably get their own JRun Server instance. I guess I just don't see the point. If the applications don't need a separate JRun server, why would they need a separate CF server? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
Would resources (memory, cpu, etc) be saved by clumping them into one JRun server? Plus, I am talking about grouping very simple and small coldfusion applications together. ColdFusion application of any significate size and importance would probably get their own JRun Server instance. What do you think? Thanks, Troy Dave Watts wrote: > > Anyone understand much about the J2EE Framework like *.ear > > files, *.war files, etc. and how it all relates to one another? > > > > I was considering deploying multiple ColdFusion Applications > > under one JRun Server. For example: > > > > \WebApps > > \WebApps\app1-ear > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion1-war > > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion2-war > > \WebApps\app2-ear > > \WebApps\app2-ear\cfusion-war > > etc. > > > > I would presume that all these coldfusion applications would > > remain autonomous and would have individual CFAdministrators. > > > > Do I have this correct? > > I'm not sure whether you can do this. Theoretically, I don't see why you > couldn't, except that you'd have to manually edit configuration files > to get > each CF application to listen on different ports. > > However, I'm not sure why you'd want to do this. If you did, they'd all > compete for the same JVM resources, and wouldn't be isolated in case of > failure at the JRun server itself. Why not just create multiple JRun > servers, one for each CF instance? > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > phone: 202-797-5496 > fax: 202-797-5444 > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ColdFusion and J2EE Framework...
> Anyone understand much about the J2EE Framework like *.ear > files, *.war files, etc. and how it all relates to one another? > > I was considering deploying multiple ColdFusion Applications > under one JRun Server. For example: > > \WebApps > \WebApps\app1-ear > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion1-war > \WebApps\app1-ear\cfusion2-war > \WebApps\app2-ear > \WebApps\app2-ear\cfusion-war > etc. > > I would presume that all these coldfusion applications would > remain autonomous and would have individual CFAdministrators. > > Do I have this correct? I'm not sure whether you can do this. Theoretically, I don't see why you couldn't, except that you'd have to manually edit configuration files to get each CF application to listen on different ports. However, I'm not sure why you'd want to do this. If you did, they'd all compete for the same JVM resources, and wouldn't be isolated in case of failure at the JRun server itself. Why not just create multiple JRun servers, one for each CF instance? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
