Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 06:55:12AM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: >... > # "Evalgelion" -- The title of the famous Japanimation. ooh... I've heard great things about Evangelion. A buddy of mine has the DVDs... need to watch them some time... Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:40:21 -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > If you want to avoid offense, a much better term for your efforts (and > more recognizable in the western open-source world) is evangelism. > And those evangelism efforts from you, and many folks who champion > the foundation and the ApacheCon show, are always appreciated :-) Aha... Okeydokey, I've already known the term "evangelize" and it's common in japan, too. I did "not" know that this word can be used in the western open-source world. I imagined that "evangelize"/"evangelist" could be used only by me and Stefano ;-) # "Evalgelion" -- The title of the famous Japanimation. Thank you, Bill. Regards, - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ XML Consortium Member: http://www.xmlconsortium.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
At 12:02 PM 12/1/2003, Bill Stoddard wrote: >William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >>At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: >> >>>*Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) >> >>BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable >>organization. Some folks might not be comfortable with the phrase >>'marketing' although it certainly applies. >>If you want to avoid offense, a much better term for your efforts (and >>more recognizable in the western open-source world) is evangelism. > >How 'bout 'advocacy'? 'Evangelism' carries some baggage of its own here in the >U.S of A. You are right... Advocacy is a much better phrase to describe championing a project... Evangelism is better applied to the debate of GNU v.s. BSD licenses, since it sort of implies a faith in some underlying principal that folks may not see eyeball to eyeball on. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: *Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable organization. Some folks might not be comfortable with the phrase 'marketing' although it certainly applies. If you want to avoid offense, a much better term for your efforts (and more recognizable in the western open-source world) is evangelism. How 'bout 'advocacy'? 'Evangelism' carries some baggage of its own here in the U.S of A. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: >*Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable organization. Some folks might not be comfortable with the phrase 'marketing' although it certainly applies. If you want to avoid offense, a much better term for your efforts (and more recognizable in the western open-source world) is evangelism. And those evangelism efforts from you, and many folks who champion the foundation and the ApacheCon show, are always appreciated :-) Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: establish a trust relationship (Re: missing signatures)
According to Santiago Gala: > For those able to receive/send SMS (text messages), they can be used to > send or receive key fingerprints, in a very effective and safe back > channel for identity validation. Err, I wouldn't call SMS (or GSM) a 'safe' communication media. [...] > I'm beginning to sign all my mails, since security is becoming a key > issue for all Open Source, and signing of communications/releases seems > to be crucial. BTW, you may want to cross-sign your two PGP keys. The one you used to sign your message is not the one you gave to people at ApacheCon for signing. ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht - Confidence is the feeling you sometimes have [EMAIL PROTECTED]- before you fully understand the situation. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: establish a trust relationship (Re: missing signatures)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El viernes, 26 sept, 2003, a las 07:07 Europe/Madrid, Ask Bjoern Hansen escribió: Likewise for telephone numbers; figuring out a time to make two calls across the world should be feasible. For those able to receive/send SMS (text messages), they can be used to send or receive key fingerprints, in a very effective and safe back channel for identity validation. I have used SMS quite a few times to send passwords after the account setup information had been sent by email. You can sue the telephone provider if the password is leaked, at least in theory. :-P Some people include their key signature in all their mails. I'm beginning to sign all my mails, since security is becoming a key issue for all Open Source, and signing of communications/releases seems to be crucial. Regards, Santiago P.S.) I know it is a very late answer, I found the thread while making a search for stuff on Apache Trust chain. - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/y3DmZAeG2a2/nhoRAsa+AKCyZzjp63NyKcoDun84ZfTGTHP37QCgtqwz rztlV7U/oqbub75bLnSPM6I= =1Qf0 - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/y3EBMGY6e0B83Y0RAmgvAJ9JUFeHnssBH3MPlgtVeizoGJLU3ACgnIVU HakG4GuDFSS6K5ELyGT2xRo= =pRoN -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
Hi, Thanks to Ken Coar, now we can acquire nice statistics data of the transition of the number of subscribers to XX announcement lists. - (From 1st November to 1st December) announce.AT.apache.DOT.org Subscribers:8394 -> 8627 (+233) announce.AT.apachecon.DOT.com Subscribers:3872 -> 4164 (+292) announce.AT.httpd.DOT.apache.DOT.org Subscribers:17789 -> 17653 (-136) announcements.AT.jakarta.DOT.apache.DOT.org Subscribers:5174 -> 5384 (+210) announcements.AT.xml.DOT.apache.DOT.org Subscribers:2128 -> 2094 (-34) - *Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) # See here: http://jakarta.apache.org/ (bold lines) Just FYI (for fun). - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ XML Consortium Member: http://www.xmlconsortium.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newsletter - to be or not to be?
> Do people want the newsletter to continue? If so then I'm happy > to edit the Oct/Nov issue with no promises to tackle subsequent > issues - aiming to publish in a week or so. +1 and much thanks. > As much as voting with +1s would be appreciated, voting with content would > be better Tetsuya seemed to get good results by posting to all of the -dev lists. You might post to a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That way everyone is reached, and no one gets more than one. > as would someone setting up the dedicated newsletter@ mailing list. Please submit a request to apmail, and let us know what options are desired. Is this owner posts only? Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
