Sorry

Google and Yahoo? 2008, 2009 renewal done it seems.
I am carefully looking the board meeting text. but somehow omitted

----

Plus,
The problem is/was ...

I have 9000 1st at linked in now. At first, I sent an invitation
to all the apache folks (Some rejected "I don't know" -- I can
not believe it. READ THE THANKS PAGE!!).
and Gradually my 1st grew up.

When I do the business in Linkedin, I message to specific
area (recently, ASEAN). And not-intentionally, there are apache
folks there. (Can you judge whether XX is apache committers or
not when sending to 1500 ppl in ASEAN?)
And 1 or 2 said that "You invited me (as apache) bacause you
want to invite me to MLM business??" or some -- came as a message.

I carefully selecting (around 2004 committers' name I remember), however,
I can not do that at all. Those frustrations went to apa...@apache.org or
p...@apache.org and misunderstandings happened I might guess.


I think it would be loss for both.

Thank you for reading

And sorry, Jim

---

> Not sure
> 
> Anyway,
> 
> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
> 
> ----
> 
> ....
> 
> > <section>
> > <title>Platinum Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Platinum Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/google.jpg" alt="Google logo" title="Google logo" 
> > border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.google.com/";>Google</a>.</p><!-- 6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/yahoo.jpg" alt="Yahoo logo" title="Yahoo logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.yahoo.com/";>Yahoo!</a>.</p><!-- 10/4/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/microsoft.jpg" alt="Microsoft logo" title="Microsoft logo" 
> > border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/";>Microsoft</a>.</p><!-- 25/7/2008 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Gold Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Gold Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/hp.jpg" alt="HP logo" title="HP logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://opensource.hp.com/";>HP</a>.</p><!-- 6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Silver Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Silver Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/covalent.jpg" alt="Covalent logo" title="Covalent logo" 
> > border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.covalent.com/";>Covalent</a>.</p><!-- 6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/IONA-Logo.gif" alt="IONA logo" title="IONA logo" 
> > border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://open.iona.com/";>IONA</a>.</p><!-- 4/1/2008 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Bronze Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Bronze Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <p><a href="http://www.airplus.com/"; rel="nofollow">AirPlus 
> > International</a>.</p><!-- 12/1/2007 -->
> > <p><a href="http://ma.tt/"; rel="nofollow">Matt Mullenweg</a>.</p><!-- 
> > 1/29/2008 -->
> > <p><a href="http://people.apache.org/~tetsuya/";>Tetsuya 
> > Kitahata</a>.</p><!-- 6/1/2007 -->
> > <p><a href="http://www.twosigma.com/";>Two Sigma Investments</a>.</p><!-- 
> > 9/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Infrastructure support</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > organizations for providing infrastructure support:</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/osl.jpg" alt="OSUOSL logo" title="OSUOSL logo" border="0"/>
> > <p>Server hosting and bandwidth provided by <a 
> > href="http://www.osuosl.org/";>Oregon State University Open Source Lab</a> 
> > (USA) and <a
> > href="http://www.surfnet.nl/";>SURFnet</a> (EU).</p>
> > 
> > <p>Donation of servers: Sun and IBM.</p>
> > </section>
> 
> ---
> 
> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
> 
> (See the !-- part)
> 
> Why my bronze disappered by the commit by Jim (I memorized)
> and others exist. Further explainations please?
> 
> You guys are DISCRIMINATORS utterly.
> 
> hun
> 
> 
> bb
> 
> 
> Tetsuya
> 
> 
> ----
> 
> > <<
> > P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The action itself 
> > would
> > be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now exaggerating the 
> > brand
> > or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
> > >>
> > 
> > Hi Tetsuya,
> > 
> > With all due respect, but I think you are confusing "donations" with 
> > "investments". Donating does not give you any power to the donnor, it is 
> > just thanking and helping some work to be done. For instance, if you 
> > donnated to an NGO helping the poor people in Africa (or in Sri Lanka), you 
> > would delegate your money to the NGO and not expect to tell to the NGO what 
> > to do. You just rely on them. On the other side, if you bought shares for a 
> > company (which is not the case of the ASF), you would be able to have your 
> > say, at least for the percentage of actions that you own.
> > 
> > About the gaming sites, in the Western world such sites normally have a bad 
> > connotation and you normally don't want to mix something with a good name 
> > (e.g. Apache) with that kind of gambling activities. I think that in the 
> > Eastern world the perception of online gaming (or gaming in general) is 
> > different and more open in a sense - not associated to corruption. That is 
> > why people reacts so angrily with such proposals.
> > 
> > As for saying that the foundation is "poisoned". Well, that is a big word 
> > to use,
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bruno
> > 
> > 2009/9/28 Tetsuya Kitahata <tets...@apache.org>
> > The only one thing I found out utterly is that the apache software
> > >  foundation is poisoned by Jim Jagielski and there could be no
> > >  curable way.
> > > 
> > >  1. All the Sponsors who no pay should be deleted immediately from 
> > > thanks.html
> > >     even though "GOOGLE", "YAHOO", "MICROSOFT".
> > >  2. Jim Jagielski lied to me / us because "We will make thanks.html page 
> > > soon"
> > >     in the PDF which I first saw -- and for 6 months nothing happened. - 
> > > 3 years ago iirc.
> > > 
> > >  Anyways, board - (1) should be done first.
> > > 
> > >  ----
> > > 
> > >  Plus, those who can gather companies outside from the United States,
> > >  go http://jakarta.jp/en
> > >  and buy. I will take care of it and donate to apache for those companies'
> > >  names - for sure (If they tell me so).
> > > 
> > >  501(c) is for American Companies. Not Russian nor Chinese companies.
> > >  Tax Deductive - meaningless. Although there is this fact, I donated as 
> > > the
> > >  first individual sponsor from JAPAN. http://an.to/asf
> > >  DO YOU UNDERSTAND, MEN?
> > > 
> > >  Thanks
> > > 
> > >  Tetsuya.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The action 
> > > itself would
> > >  be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now exaggerating 
> > > the brand
> > >  or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  ----
> > > 
> > >  > Just one message.
> > >  >
> > >  > Do you think that "MONEY MONEY" person would
> > >  > do the PERSONAL SPONSORSHIP for poor Sri Lanka
> > >  > (Shinhala) apache committer?
> > >  >
> > >  > Whether Lahiru was a lier or not, I do not care. But the [TRUTH] was 
> > > [TRUTH].
> > >  > Please do not view all the things in prejudice.
> > >  >
> > >  > bb
> > >  >
> > >  > Tetsuya
> > >  >
> > >  > > Tetsuya,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > I have sent you a separate EMail. Please let me know if
> > >  > > you have not rec'd it or if you don't understand it.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Thx.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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