Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[superalex]

Well, I suppouse it may be better and it's more logical to execute the
command only when a call connects but I was doing some testing and found
that worked better setting the echo supression on every transition :)

> Guess we should make this configurable, FSO is using -6db, not -12db since 
> this sounds pretty harsh for many people.

That's a good idea, but I think the issue may be a bit different. With 
Qtopia people were reporting no echo for the first call, but echo on 
subsequent calls. Since we're using an undocumented feature of the modem 
we don't know under what conditions it might be disabled, even though we 
don't disable it explicitly. Currently we only set the echo suppression 
in init, while this patch sets it on every call state transition. It may 
be worth moving it down a few lines so it only happens when a call 
connects, but this way we can be certain that echo suppression is 
enabled for every call.

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Alastair Johnson]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 12:18:28 schrieb superalex:
>> Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous "echo bug" was
>> still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the
>> 2008.8 one.
>>
>> In file
>> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calyp
>> so/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox
>>
>> Where it says:
>> info = {}
>>
>> I have:
>> devchannel =
>> self._object.modem.communicationChannel("DeviceMediator")
>> devchannel.enqueue( "%N0187" )
>> info = {}
> 
> Guess we should make this configurable, FSO is using -6db, not -12db since 
> this sounds pretty harsh for many people.

That's a good idea, but I think the issue may be a bit different. With 
Qtopia people were reporting no echo for the first call, but echo on 
subsequent calls. Since we're using an undocumented feature of the modem 
we don't know under what conditions it might be disabled, even though we 
don't disable it explicitly. Currently we only set the echo suppression 
in init, while this patch sets it on every call state transition. It may 
be worth moving it down a few lines so it only happens when a call 
connects, but this way we can be certain that echo suppression is 
enabled for every call.

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 12:18:28 schrieb superalex:
> Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous "echo bug" was
> still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the
> 2008.8 one.
>
> In file
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calyp
>so/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox
>
> Where it says:
> info = {}
>
> I have:
> devchannel =
> self._object.modem.communicationChannel("DeviceMediator")
> devchannel.enqueue( "%N0187" )
> info = {}

Guess we should make this configurable, FSO is using -6db, not -12db since 
this sounds pretty harsh for many people.

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[superalex]

Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous "echo bug" was
still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the
2008.8 one.

In file
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py,
function percentCPI, line 210 aprox

Where it says:
info = {}   
   

I have:
devchannel =
self._object.modem.communicationChannel("DeviceMediator")   
  
devchannel.enqueue( "%N0187" )
info = {}   
   


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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Chris Samuel]

- "Cédric Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their
> maps.

Hmm, I'd not heard about that, the legal information on
the Google site is the usual unclear legalese that, if
taken literally, could mean that any browser that caches
the images could infringe them (depending on which countries
data you are looking at).

http://www.google.com/help/legalnotices_maps.html

They've tried to summarise it here, but it's still not that
clear to me:

http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

So probably the safest thing to do then is not use them.. :-(

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Olivier Migeot]

> Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps.

There's OpenStreetMap's, then :)

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Cédric Berger]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:23, Chris Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ahh, but if you have an Internet connection live it will fetch
> the tiles from Google Maps and plot you on there!
>
> To show this get your FR online and then run the Mapping Demo
> with the sample dataset (just an NMEA log file) and watch it
> follow the person on Google Maps.
>
> What it doesn't do is cache those images, which would be rather
> neat if you could pre-populate with them, but then it is just a
> demo and the source is there to be hacked with.. ;-)
>

Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps.

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[Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

[Chris Samuel]

- "kimaidou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo
> writing the current lat/lon)

Ahh, but if you have an Internet connection live it will fetch
the tiles from Google Maps and plot you on there!

To show this get your FR online and then run the Mapping Demo
with the sample dataset (just an NMEA log file) and watch it
follow the person on Google Maps.

What it doesn't do is cache those images, which would be rather
neat if you could pre-populate with them, but then it is just a
demo and the source is there to be hacked with.. ;-)

cheers,
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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[Andrew Chu]

Hi Christoph,

You could try the "Option 2" instructions found on the wiki: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner and see 
if that works.  If it does, other users could benefit if you update the 
wiki to reflect any changes to the procedure you had to make.

Cheers,
Andrew

Christoph Simolka wrote:
> Thanks, gps is not importent for me right now.
> 
> I'll try qtextended for now..
> 
> Is there a way to install it on the sd-card? I'd like to keep FSO to
> test it from time to time to give some feedback and maybe help improving
> fso.
> 
> As soon as it is stable enough to use it as a phone I think it should be
> used by as many people as possible.
> 
> Regards,
> Christoph Simolka
> 
> 
> 
> kimaidou wrote:
>> Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The
>> only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The
>> audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as
>> needed.
>>
>> What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo
>> writing the current lat/lon), and because no server x, there are few
>> applications for it now.
>>
>> 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>>
>> I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this
>> solved
>> already?
>>
>>
>> kimaidou wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended
>> > distribution.
>> >
>> > 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> > > >>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the
>> software
>> > status I just played around with different distros but
>> didn't use
>> > it as
>> > a phone.
>> >
>> > This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't
>> start anymore
>> > (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )
>> >
>> > So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.
>> >
>> > I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression
>> was good,
>> > zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2
>> > Germany)
>> >
>> > I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after
>> one day of
>> > usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.
>> >
>> > The most important for now:
>> >
>> > - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume
>> > with the
>> > power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck
>> step1. I
>> > have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
>> > - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
>> > feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it
>> doesn't react on
>> > the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it
>> doesn't
>> > react
>> > on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the
>> > phone to
>> > suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
>> > - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today
>> > morning,
>> > the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
>> > connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment
>> > keeped
>> > crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
>> > - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them
>> was almost
>> > unable to understand me because of the "echo"
>> >
>> > The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the
>> phone
>> > sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone
>> in the same
>> > room can listen to the call. How can I change this?
>> >
>> > Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Christoph Simolka
>> >
>> >
>> >
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[kimaidou]

I follow the guide on the wiki to install it on the sd card :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Option_2:_Dual-Booting_between_Qtopia_and_2007.2_.28Qtopia_boots_from_MicroSD_card.29

It worked pretty well for me !
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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[Christoph Simolka]

Thanks, gps is not importent for me right now.

I'll try qtextended for now..

Is there a way to install it on the sd-card? I'd like to keep FSO to
test it from time to time to give some feedback and maybe help improving
fso.

As soon as it is stable enough to use it as a phone I think it should be
used by as many people as possible.

Regards,
Christoph Simolka



kimaidou wrote:
> Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The
> only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The
> audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as
> needed.
>
> What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo
> writing the current lat/lon), and because no server x, there are few
> applications for it now.
>
> 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this
> solved
> already?
>
>
> kimaidou wrote:
> > Hi
> > For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended
> > distribution.
> >
> > 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >  >>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the
> software
> > status I just played around with different distros but
> didn't use
> > it as
> > a phone.
> >
> > This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't
> start anymore
> > (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )
> >
> > So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.
> >
> > I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression
> was good,
> > zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2
> > Germany)
> >
> > I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after
> one day of
> > usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.
> >
> > The most important for now:
> >
> > - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume
> > with the
> > power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck
> step1. I
> > have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
> > - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
> > feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it
> doesn't react on
> > the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it
> doesn't
> > react
> > on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the
> > phone to
> > suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
> > - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today
> > morning,
> > the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
> > connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment
> > keeped
> > crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
> > - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them
> was almost
> > unable to understand me because of the "echo"
> >
> > The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the
> phone
> > sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone
> in the same
> > room can listen to the call. How can I change this?
> >
> > Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Christoph Simolka
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:20:40 +0100
kimaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The
> only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The
> audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as
> needed.

no echo issue? I just tried 4.4.2 again, and have some great echo's
over here. But maybe you're using FSO+qtextended?

Franky

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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[kimaidou]

Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The only
thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The audio settings
are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as needed.

What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo writing
the current lat/lon), and because no server x, there are few applications
for it now.

2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this solved
> already?
>
>
> kimaidou wrote:
> > Hi
> > For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended
> > distribution.
> >
> > 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software
> > status I just played around with different distros but didn't use
> > it as
> > a phone.
> >
> > This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start
> anymore
> > (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )
> >
> > So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.
> >
> > I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression was
> good,
> > zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2
> > Germany)
> >
> > I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after one day of
> > usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.
> >
> > The most important for now:
> >
> > - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume
> > with the
> > power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck step1. I
> > have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
> > - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
> > feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it doesn't react
> on
> > the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it doesn't
> > react
> > on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the
> > phone to
> > suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
> > - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today
> > morning,
> > the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
> > connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment
> > keeped
> > crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
> > - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them was almost
> > unable to understand me because of the "echo"
> >
> > The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the phone
> > sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone in the
> same
> > room can listen to the call. How can I change this?
> >
> > Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Christoph Simolka
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[Christoph Simolka]

I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this solved
already?


kimaidou wrote:
> Hi
> For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended
> distribution.
>
> 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software
> status I just played around with different distros but didn't use
> it as
> a phone.
>
> This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start anymore
> (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )
>
> So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.
>
> I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression was good,
> zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2
> Germany)
>
> I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after one day of
> usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.
>
> The most important for now:
>
> - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume
> with the
> power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck step1. I
> have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
> - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
> feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it doesn't react on
> the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it doesn't
> react
> on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the
> phone to
> suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
> - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today
> morning,
> the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
> connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment
> keeped
> crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
> - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them was almost
> unable to understand me because of the "echo"
>
> The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the phone
> sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone in the same
> room can listen to the call. How can I change this?
>
> Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?
>
> Regards,
> Christoph Simolka
>
>
>
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Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

[kimaidou]

Hi
For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended
distribution.

2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi,
>
> I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software
> status I just played around with different distros but didn't use it as
> a phone.
>
> This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start anymore
> (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )
>
> So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.
>
> I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression was good,
> zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2 Germany)
>
> I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after one day of
> usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.
>
> The most important for now:
>
> - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume with the
> power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck step1. I
> have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
> - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
> feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it doesn't react on
> the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it doesn't react
> on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the phone to
> suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
> - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today morning,
> the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
> connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment keeped
> crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
> - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them was almost
> unable to understand me because of the "echo"
>
> The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the phone
> sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone in the same
> room can listen to the call. How can I change this?
>
> Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?
>
> Regards,
> Christoph Simolka
>
>
>
>
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[FSO] Stability and other problems

[Christoph Simolka]

Hi,

I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software
status I just played around with different distros but didn't use it as
a phone.

This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start anymore
(yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) )

So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner.

I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression was good,
zone started, I entered my pin and registered to "Interkom" (O2 Germany)

I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after one day of
usage.. I've got a lot of small problems.

The most important for now:

- I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume with the
power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck step1. I
have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this.
- The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this
feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it doesn't react on
the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it doesn't react
on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. -> I can't send the phone to
suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls.
- I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today morning,
the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't
connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on "recover" enlightment keeped
crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner.
- Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them was almost
unable to understand me because of the "echo"

The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the phone
sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone in the same
room can listen to the call. How can I change this?

Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems?

Regards,
Christoph Simolka




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