Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread bruno patin
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 08:34:40PM -0800, Igor Furlan wrote:
 

--- Christopher Faylor wrote:
   

I don't know why every message I send on this subject requires such
intense clarification.
 

Bruno is showing willingness to help ...  That's all
   

I *understand* that.  I appreciate that.  I apologize for the tone
of my message.

 

no offence received.
Bruno


Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 08:34:40PM -0800, Igor Furlan wrote:
>--- Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>I don't know why every message I send on this subject requires such
>>intense clarification.
>
>Bruno is showing willingness to help ...  That's all

I *understand* that.  I appreciate that.  I apologize for the tone
of my message.


Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread Igor Furlan
--- Christopher Faylor wrote:

> 
> I don't know why every message I send on this
> subject requires such
> intense clarification.

Bruno is showing willingness to help ...  That's all



> 
> What difference does it make if you are or are not
> needed to run new
> tests?  Are you going to have to go through a 24
> hour fast before you
> could possibly think about doing tests?
> 
> Why don't you just relax and see what happens?  If
> someone wants tests
> they will ask for them.  If you don't want to
> provide them, then don't
> provide them.  If you do want to provide them, then
> the person who's
> doing the work (not me, as I've previously stated
> I'm not a setup
> developer) will probably gratefully accept them.
> 
> cgcgf> 


Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 09:50:34PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 04:19:50PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>>>(setup.log.full) xac
>>
>>I don't know if anyone is following the discussion in the cygwin-apps
>>mailing list but it looks like a few setup problems have been discovered
>>and a new setup.exe may be imminent.  The problem where setup.exe doesn't
>>close handles is going to be fixed.
>
>Good evening,
>
>will you need me to run new tests ?

I don't know why every message I send on this subject requires such
intense clarification.

What difference does it make if you are or are not needed to run new
tests?  Are you going to have to go through a 24 hour fast before you
could possibly think about doing tests?

Why don't you just relax and see what happens?  If someone wants tests
they will ask for them.  If you don't want to provide them, then don't
provide them.  If you do want to provide them, then the person who's
doing the work (not me, as I've previously stated I'm not a setup
developer) will probably gratefully accept them.

cgf


Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread bruno patin
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 04:19:50PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
 

(setup.log.full) xac
   

I don't know if anyone is following the discussion in the cygwin-apps
mailing list but it looks like a few setup problems have been discovered
and a new setup.exe may be imminent.  The problem where setup.exe doesn't
close handles is going to be fixed.
FYI,
cgf

 

Good evening,
will you need me to run new tests ?
bruno



Re: [Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 04:19:50PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>(setup.log.full) xac

I don't know if anyone is following the discussion in the cygwin-apps
mailing list but it looks like a few setup problems have been discovered
and a new setup.exe may be imminent.  The problem where setup.exe doesn't
close handles is going to be fixed.

FYI,
cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-14 Thread Roboco Sanchez
Christopher Faylor  cygwin.com> writes:

> 
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:31:53PM +, Roboco Sanchez wrote:
> >The setup.exe should do the installation job properly.
> >[snip]
> >As for what our two develpers said, I do respect them for what they do
> >for us but I wouldn't tell my users to shut up like that.  Being a
> >volunteer doing things for people for free doesn't give you the right
> >to do that.
> 
> Did you *read* what Bobby said about Alexander?  Why didn't you jump to
> Alexander's defense if you respect him so much?
> 
> Or does being a user of free software does give someone the right to
> insult a developer?  That seems pretty one-sided to me.
> 

Yes, I did read what Bobby said. His post wasn't meant for Alexander. He was 
responding to Daniel who previously "just wanted to add" something to the 
discussion. From my view it was meant for the users and for the Cygwin "team" 
or 
the "management" not a particular developer. Like I said I think what Bobby 
said 
was perfectly all right and reasonable. I was also adding something the the 
discussion just like Daniel did. I saw what he added as useful to both users 
and 
developers. To users it indicated that there was some problem with the 
installation so everyone should be aware of. To developers this problem should 
be investigated and fixed. Also to developers he referred to a previous 
developer who he thought did a better job. Now I can understand most people 
would be upset if anyone tell you they think someone did or can do a better job 
but if I was a developer here I would just listen to what Bobby said, be 
open-minded, and think, because he might be right. I have been installing/using 
Cygwin for years and this is the first time I have a problem. I thought Bobby 
might be thinking the same thing before suggested that.

> >You need the users and the users need you.
> 
> You somehow think that there is a flow of obligation going from me to
> you?  You're very wrong.  You are benefitting from my efforts and
> Alexander's efforts.  I am not benefitting from your efforts in any way.
> 
> That is not true of some users here who are capable of sending bug
> reports or providing constructive feedback without pontificating.  Since
> I care about cygwin, I do appreciate when people can provide feedback
> without whining and without insulting the people who have donated their
> time to help them.
> 
> You have no rights here.  Sorry.
> 

I was talking about users and developers in general. I didn't say that you 
needed me. I said that you needed the users. But since you have shown your 
typical developer attitude I should make this point clearer. Every user of your 
free software has contributed somehow to your project. They don't have to be 
here to show that they are contributing. Just if they download and install and 
use your software is enough. Why? These people although they don't come here to 
praise you or give their supports to you when they don't find bugs/problems in 
your software they are still helping you testing the software for you. Their 
absence here tells that the software works for them althouth some just don't 
bother to come here no matter they found a problem or they have fixed it 
themselves or maybe they are in some other places like IRC channels, forums, 
usenet, etc. As for those who come posting questions, they may not be "capable 
of sending bug reports or providing constructive feedback without 
pontificating" 
in your eyes but they are making contribution to your project. Not all of them 
really need help. Some are just reporting bugs/problems so that they can be 
fixed and everyone can be happy both users and developers. I was in this type 
of 
users when I was confirming this problem. You said that I'm benefitting from 
your efforts and Alexander's efforts, that is ture. But when you said you are 
not benefitting from my efforts in any way, that is not true. I spent time and 
efforts to download files and test the installation and I spent time to report 
that here. Should I have to go through all this had the setup.exe worked 
properly? No. I didn't really need those X components from Cygwin I only needed 
the C compiler and I usually do "install everything" when I install any 
software. I found the problem so I came here and found other users with the 
same 
problem then I did more tests in order to confirm the problem here. I don't 
mind 
you are not appreciating what I did but I want you not to forget that this type 
of users does exist and you will appreciate their efforts or not is up to you 
but you should never underestimate their efforts. They may well call that an 
insult to them.

> >It is simple, you either do it your best or you don't do it at all.
> 
> Sorry, but that is simple-minded pap.  How can you judge what someone's
> "best" is?  So, if I can't give cygwin 100% of my effort, I should just
> abandon it?  Ridiculous.
> 

Everyone knows what their best is. No one is judging. Best doesn't mean

Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-13 Thread bruno patin
(second time setup.log.full) xae


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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-13 Thread bruno patin
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[Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-13 Thread bruno patin

--- Begin Message ---
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[Fwd: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only]

2004-11-13 Thread bruno patin

--- Begin Message ---
cygcheck.out.after1

Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-13 Thread bruno patin
cygcheck.out.before

Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sat Nov 13 10:45:39 2004

Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Path:   c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16
C:\WINDOWS\system32
C:\WINDOWS
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

Path = `c:\program 
files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program
 Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno\Application Data'
CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs'
COMPUTERNAME = `BRUNOFONTENAY'
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:32:51PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
 

So my work is to begin a new complete install with the new packages.
Do I have to reload all of them ?  only xorg related packages ?
   

You have to do whatever it is that you do to cause the problem.
The mirror has been updated (I created the tar files in a way that made
them unreadable by setup earlier but that's fixed now) so you should be
able to install as normal.
cgf
 

OK, I reload all and do a new install (it will take a little time as I 
do not have a really fast connection). I'll let you know when it is 
finished.

Cheers
Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:32:51PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>So my work is to begin a new complete install with the new packages.
>Do I have to reload all of them ?  only xorg related packages ?

You have to do whatever it is that you do to cause the problem.

The mirror has been updated (I created the tar files in a way that made
them unreadable by setup earlier but that's fixed now) so you should be
able to install as normal.

cgf


RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Bobby McNulty

>
>ftp://mirrors.sunsite.dk/pub/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/

>WIW,
http://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/sourceware/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/
>hows that this file is now updated on the mirrors.rcn.net mirror.

>Bobby, do you want to try that one?

>cgf

Trying it now. Let me see here.



RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Bobby McNulty

> >hope that helps
>>
>> I'm noticing a bunch of XFree86 modules in this cygcheck, too.
>>
>> Where are they coming from?  I wouldn't have expected many XFree86
>> modules in a clean install.

>Installing everything should also grab all of the empty XFree86 upgrade
>elpers.
Igor, it was grabbing the wrong packages from Xfree.
It was grabbing full packages, xfree-bin comes to mind, as that was the only
one it picked up on.
Bobby
BTW it was straight out off the net, full, all users, unix.
I'll try again later. This time without the xorg.



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin

One question that should have been asked long before: is your disk full?
Do you perhaps have quotas enabled?
	Igor
 

Igor,
Ok, I verified, there are quotas on xp but on MY box they are deactivated.
Bruno



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:39:23PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:22:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>> >Good evening again,
>> >
>> >install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if
>> >there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?
>> >
>> >joined :
>> >an analysis of my system
>> >the cygcheck result
>> >
>> >hope that helps
>>
>> I'm noticing a bunch of XFree86 modules in this cygcheck, too.
>>
>> Where are they coming from?  I wouldn't have expected many XFree86
>> modules in a clean install.
>
>Installing everything should also grab all of the empty XFree86 upgrade
>helpers.

Ok.  I guess I've lost track of who's doing what.  I didn't realize
that this was an "absolutely everything" install.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin

Installing everything should also grab all of the empty XFree86 upgrade
helpers.
	Igor
 

I'll have to read closely the doc on setup as I do not understand what 
you mean by "empty XFreee86 upgrade".

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin

One question that should have been asked long before: is your disk full?
Do you perhaps have quotas enabled?
	Igor
 

For this one, it is easy, my box is a completely new one. I have plenty 
of room but for any quota mechanism (is there one on xp ?)

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:22:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
> >Good evening again,
> >
> >install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if
> >there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?
> >
> >joined :
> >an analysis of my system
> >the cygcheck result
> >
> >hope that helps
>
> I'm noticing a bunch of XFree86 modules in this cygcheck, too.
>
> Where are they coming from?  I wouldn't have expected many XFree86
> modules in a clean install.

Installing everything should also grab all of the empty XFree86 upgrade
helpers.
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, bruno patin wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> I'm not understanding really well what to do (you know my proficiency in
> english is not so perfect as to understand really everything). I understand
> that you think that to open for writing a name where the directory do no exist
> could provoke problems. It would explain the non blocking exception (am I
> right ?) that occurs and loops indefinitely (is it what you think ?). What of
> the fact that the error occurs only after being able to write a given number
> of file in this directory (around ten files where created) ? what of the fact
> that when you do not install only one file before (like cron) you are able to
> write one more file in this directory ? I'm not sufficiently proficient in the
> cygwin coding to answer these questions.
>
> So my work is to begin a new complete install with the new packages. Do I have
> to reload all of them ? only xorg related packages ?
>
> What I intend to do is begin again the first test described under with the
> reloaded x11 files. Is it what you want ?
>
> ---
> To summarize what I did when testing and the problems I saw (I do that not
> only for repeating but also to have all the datas on only one mail)
>
> 1/ complete test
>
> I have a local version of all the cygwin distro (got at mirrors.sunsite.dk)
> I begin by deleting my cygwin root on the disk but not the entries of the
> registry
> I launch setup selecting everything
>
> Arriving at the file:
>
> /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
>
> setup enters a loop delivering the log message one after the other indefintely
> (view through ollydbg)
>
> 
> LOG : 1 Installing file
> cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for writing
> LOG : 2  failed too open
> cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for writing
> .
>
> The second message is issued through an exception
>
> You can see two things increasing with the same speed, the memory consumed and
> the handlers.
> when cancelled, the message issued by setup is
>
> "cannot open log file c:\cygwin/var/log/setup.log for writing"
>
> another box opens but disappear too fast for me to give you the message
>
> With this test, no setup.log is created at all
>
> This test has been conducted with these different changes:
>
> I changed the rights of the /var directory with chmod a+w with no effect
> (because of the absence of setup)
> I changed the TEMP and TMP variables values (erasing blanks of the names)
>
> 2/ successive setup
>
> I conducted a first setup without X11 and a second with only X11 .It worked
> fine with setup.log created
>
> 3/ complete test with one file (cron) not installed
>
> The behaviour is exactly the same as in first test with only the file on which
> it stopped as a difference. That is t loops on the next file to write:
>
> xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0.README
> ---
>
> Well, perhaps I forgot something but no one is perfect :-)

One question that should have been asked long before: is your disk full?
Do you perhaps have quotas enabled?
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Christopher,
I'm not understanding really well what to do (you know my proficiency in 
english is not so perfect as to understand really everything). I 
understand that you think that to open for writing a name where the 
directory do no exist could provoke problems. It would explain the non 
blocking exception (am I right ?) that occurs and loops indefinitely (is 
it what you think ?). What of the fact that the error occurs only after 
being able to write a given number of file in this directory (around ten 
files where created) ? what of the fact that when you do not install 
only one file before (like cron) you are able to write one more file in 
this directory ? I'm not sufficiently proficient in the cygwin coding to 
answer these questions.

So my work is to begin a new complete install with the new packages. Do 
I have to reload all of them ? only xorg related packages ?

What I intend to do is begin again the first test described under with 
the reloaded x11 files. Is it what you want ?

---
To summarize what I did when testing and the problems I saw (I do that 
not only for repeating but also to have all the datas on only one mail)

1/ complete test
I have a local version of all the cygwin distro (got at mirrors.sunsite.dk)
I begin by deleting my cygwin root on the disk but not the entries of 
the registry
I launch setup selecting everything

Arriving at the file:
/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
setup enters a loop delivering the log message one after the other 
indefintely (view through ollydbg)


LOG : 1 Installing file 
cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for 
writing
LOG : 2  failed too open 
cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for 
writing
.

The second message is issued through an exception
You can see two things increasing with the same speed, the memory 
consumed and the handlers.
when cancelled, the message issued by setup is

"cannot open log file c:\cygwin/var/log/setup.log for writing"
another box opens but disappear too fast for me to give you the message
With this test, no setup.log is created at all
This test has been conducted with these different changes:
I changed the rights of the /var directory with chmod a+w with no effect 
(because of the absence of setup)
I changed the TEMP and TMP variables values (erasing blanks of the names)

2/ successive setup
I conducted a first setup without X11 and a second with only X11 .It 
worked fine with setup.log created

3/ complete test with one file (cron) not installed
The behaviour is exactly the same as in first test with only the file on 
which it stopped as a difference. That is t loops on the next file to write:

xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0.README
---
Well, perhaps I forgot something but no one is perfect :-)
Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:

> Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Carlo Florendo wrote:
> >
> > > [snip]
> > > In any case, here's setup.log.bz2.  (Compressed since it is greater than
> > > 100K) The WinXP SP2 machine is accessible to me off-line.  Thus, the
> > > delay in the sending of these files.
> [...]
> > Hmm, the fact that it attempts to reinstall packages, coupled with the
> > fact that it's not renaming postinstall scripts properly, makes me wonder
> > whether your Cygwin directory tree is writable by the user that performs
> > the install.  This would also be consistent with the "Cannot open
> > c:\cygwin\var\log\setup.log for writing" message that others reported.
>
> IIRC, Bruno said that he is in the Administrator group, should'nt this be
> sufficient?

Nope.  It's possible to create files that aren't readable/writeable by the
"Administrators" group.  Being in "Administrators" allows you to take
ownership of the files or change the mode on them, but AFAIK that's not
done in the course of a normal write.
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:27:32PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>>So, Bruno, could you periodically check:
>>
>>ftp://mirrors.sunsite.dk/pub/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/
>>
>>wait until the file xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2.tar.bz2 shows
>>today's date, and then try your test case again to see if it
>>hangs?  I think that setup.exe should do the right thing and
>>download the changed files but, if it doesn't, you'll have to
>>delete them from your disk.
>>
>>As far as handles are concerned, I don't think that there is any upper
>>limit on the number that can be allocated.  The only limitation is 32
>>bits and the amount of available memory.  It seems like people are
>>hitting this limit if they allow setup to run long enough.
>
>I'll do it but remember that I realize a test where nnn-fscl-nnn was not 
>anymore concerned only by removing one file of the setup llist.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:20:57PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>I have (I HOPE) regenerated all of the X11 files in the distribution
 ^^  

I was merely providing a reference point.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin

So, Bruno, could you periodically check:
ftp://mirrors.sunsite.dk/pub/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/
wait until the file xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2.tar.bz2 shows
today's date, and then try your test case again to see if it
hangs?  I think that setup.exe should do the right thing and
download the changed files but, if it doesn't, you'll have to
delete them from your disk.
As far as handles are concerned, I don't think that there is any upper
limit on the number that can be allocated.  The only limitation is 32
bits and the amount of available memory.  It seems like people are
hitting this limit if they allow setup to run long enough.
cgf

 

I'll do it but remember that I realize a test where nnn-fscl-nnn was not 
anymore concerned only by removing one file of the setup llist.

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:20:57PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>So, Bruno, could you periodically check:
>
>ftp://mirrors.sunsite.dk/pub/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/

FWIW, http://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/sourceware/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/
shows that this file is now updated on the mirrors.rcn.net mirror.

Bobby, do you want to try that one?

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 06:42:44PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
>
>>bruno patin wrote:
>>
>>>something I forgot, the number of handler increases at the same speed 
>>>as the memory. I suspect that this resource is not released when 
>>>exiting setup because when doing my experiments my computer is being 
>>>slower and slower.
>>
>>
>>What is the actual limit for NT?  I never was aware that there is a 
>>limit at all.
>>
>>
>>Gerrit
>
>In fact I'm a unix guy and I don't really know of what windows is 
>doing. My understanding is a 'black box' one seeing what happens with 
>the few win tools I have and the setup code. I can perhaps search a 
>little but I think the cygwin coder are far more better than me. That's 
>the reason why I'd like an advice fromm christopher Faylor that knows 
>certainly what could happen on nt.

I'm thinking that there is something odd about setup's handing of files
in directories which have not been explicitly created in the tar
archive.  That's why I was asking if c:/cygwin/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin
existed.  It didn't seem like the tar archive was creating it
specifically.

I don't know why this would affect some people but not others, though.
When I install cygwin from scratch in a base install + all X packages
selected, I don't see this.  So maybe this is a red herring.

Anyway, to the end of confirming my theory, I have (I HOPE) regenerated
all of the X11 files in the distribution and made sure that directory
creation precedes filename creation in every case.  I haven't bumped the
version numbers, though, since this is purely a cosmetic change.

This change will take a while to hit mirrors since many files were
affected but if you check that a mirror contains files with today's
date, then it is worth trying a full install to see if your problem
mysteriously goes away.

So, Bruno, could you periodically check:

ftp://mirrors.sunsite.dk/pub/cygwin/release/X11/xorg-x11-fscl/

wait until the file xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2.tar.bz2 shows
today's date, and then try your test case again to see if it
hangs?  I think that setup.exe should do the right thing and
download the changed files but, if it doesn't, you'll have to
delete them from your disk.

As far as handles are concerned, I don't think that there is any upper
limit on the number that can be allocated.  The only limitation is 32
bits and the amount of available memory.  It seems like people are
hitting this limit if they allow setup to run long enough.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
something I forgot, the number of handler increases at the same speed 
as the memory. I suspect that this resource is not released when 
exiting setup because when doing my experiments my computer is being 
slower and slower.

What is the actual limit for NT?  I never was aware that there is a 
limit at all.

Gerrit
In fact I'm a unix guy and I don't really know of what windows is 
doing. My understanding is a 'black box' one seeing what happens with 
the few win tools I have and the setup code. I can perhaps search a 
little but I think the cygwin coder are far more better than me. That's 
the reason why I'd like an advice fromm christopher Faylor that knows 
certainly what could happen on nt.

Bruno



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
bruno patin wrote:
something I forgot, the number of handler increases at the same speed as 
the memory. I suspect that this resource is not released when exiting 
setup because when doing my experiments my computer is being slower and 
slower.
What is the actual limit for NT?  I never was aware that there is a 
limit at all.

Gerrit
--
=^..^=


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:22:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
 

Good evening again,
install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if 
there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?

joined :
an analysis of my system
the cygcheck result
hope that helps
   

I'm noticing a bunch of XFree86 modules in this cygcheck, too.
Where are they coming from?  I wouldn't have expected many XFree86
modules in a clean install.
cgf
 

I don't know why but it is probably of no importance for the problem at 
hand. Could you say me if my mails joined are a bad analysis of this 
problem ?

BPatin
--- Begin Message ---
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
Gerrit,
I was thinking of something. I would be surprised that my test with 
different TMP variables could work because they work for all the 
packages before. Could it be more something like trying to open more 
than the permitted number of files ? when trying at this step to open 
one more handler, setup would fail go into a continuable exception not 
releasing the memory associated with this corrupted handler and trying 
again consuming memory ?

Is it ridiculous ?
Bruno

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
ok I've done it, it did not work. I'll try something else. I will remove 
one and only one unitary package in order to see if I block on the same 
file. If not I will assume my hypothesis based on the number of file 
opened could be a good one.

Bruno

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
I was right, deleting only one file of the list of file to install meant 
the ability to write one more file on the disk (in my case I'm now 
blocked on the xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0.README. I do nt hink that it is a 
problem specific to xorg. xorg unhappily was in the last packages to be 
installed. Ami I right ? It would mean that this thread is not well 
placed in the xfree list.

Bruno

--- End Message ---


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:22:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>Good evening again,
>
>install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if 
>there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?
>
>joined :
>an analysis of my system
>the cygcheck result
>
>hope that helps

I'm noticing a bunch of XFree86 modules in this cygcheck, too.

Where are they coming from?  I wouldn't have expected many XFree86
modules in a clean install.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:15:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
 

Last experiment,
I use the ollydbg tool in order to begin to see what is the problem 
inside setup. It traps also the debug messae of setup and one ofit 
consists of saying (as it is given by this tool) :

"failed too open 
cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for 
writing"
   

Does the path c:/cygwin/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin exist at this point?
cgf

 

yes, I followed it rather closely and the creation of the preceding 
n.README files. Wht do you think of my follwing mails ? do you think 
it could be the problem ?

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:15:16PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>Last experiment,
>
>I use the ollydbg tool in order to begin to see what is the problem 
>inside setup. It traps also the debug messae of setup and one ofit 
>consists of saying (as it is given by this tool) :
>
>"failed too open 
>cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for 
>writing"

Does the path c:/cygwin/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin exist at this point?

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
something I forgot, the number of handler increases at the same speed as 
the memory. I suspect that this resource is not released when exiting 
setup because when doing my experiments my computer is being slower and 
slower.

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
I was right, deleting only one file of the list of file to install meant 
the ability to write one more file on the disk (in my case I'm now 
blocked on the xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0.README. I do nt hink that it is a 
problem specific to xorg. xorg unhappily was in the last packages to be 
installed. Ami I right ? It would mean that this thread is not well 
placed in the xfree list.

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
ok I've done it, it did not work. I'll try something else. I will remove 
one and only one unitary package in order to see if I block on the same 
file. If not I will assume my hypothesis based on the number of file 
opened could be a good one.

Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
Gerrit,
I was thinking of something. I would be surprised that my test with 
different TMP variables could work because they work for all the 
packages before. Could it be more something like trying to open more 
than the permitted number of files ? when trying at this step to open 
one more handler, setup would fail go into a continuable exception not 
releasing the memory associated with this corrupted handler and trying 
again consuming memory ?

Is it ridiculous ?
Bruno


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)

This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to 
some PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
will do as asked but I'm inside the debug session of ollydbg on the 
problem point. As I do not know really well the tool I did not find at 
this point how to associate the src files so ... I'm using the assmbly 
code and beside the setup source code.

From this point I will do another run n ten to twenty mns using the new 
def of tmp and temp.

BPatin



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
following the work I can say there are two messages and that they are 
issued in the logFile.cc file of setup and thee messages are numbered :

first : "LOG : 1 Installing file cygfile"
second "LOG : 2 (see my last mail)"
hope that helps
BPatin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
bruno patin wrote:
Ok there the status
As already stated a loop somewhere that consume memory with time when 
installing /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.README
the joined files:
1 cygcheck.txt (this mail)
This is perhaps a problem:
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ericson\LOCALS~1\Temp'
Plese try setting TEMP and TMP in the Windows global environment to some 
PATH without spaces in it, eg.:
TEMP=c:\TEMP
TMP=/tmp

Gerrit
--
=^..^=


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Carlo Florendo wrote:
[snip]
In any case, here's setup.log.bz2.  (Compressed since it is greater than
100K) The WinXP SP2 machine is accessible to me off-line.  Thus, the
delay in the sending of these files.
[...]
Hmm, the fact that it attempts to reinstall packages, coupled with the
fact that it's not renaming postinstall scripts properly, makes me wonder
whether your Cygwin directory tree is writable by the user that performs
the install.  This would also be consistent with the "Cannot open
c:\cygwin\var\log\setup.log for writing" message that others reported.
IIRC, Bruno said that he is in the Administrator group, should'nt this 
be sufficient?

Gerrit
--
=^..^=


Re: [SOLVED - mysteriously...not quite] Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Carlo Florendo wrote:
Cygwin Rocks!
Yes.

I tried to reproduce the problem on the WinXP SP2 machine in question 
and I was unsuccessful in reproducing it...

Cygwin installed like a charm =)
Now, I don't  know why such is the case. 
Hmmm...To tell the truth, I was actually asking  someone to follow 
instructions from me, (i.e. press this button, select "Unix", click ok, 
etc.).  However, when I myself tried do a fresh uninstall and fresh 
install, all worked well.
Fresh install... how fresh is fresh?  Maybe there remains some registry 
key after an uninstall?

In any case, I'm now attaching cygcheck.out and setup.log (compressed) 
so the experts could point out what difference it had with my previous 
posting of cygcheck.out and setup.log,
I could see no significant difference there.
My suspicion is that the one whom I asked to install cygwin did 
something else that she didn't tell me(What I saw when she was 
installing cygwin was the "99% completed" on xorg that never stopped.  
This, I verified with my  eyes.   On her following my instructions,  I 
didn't see it with my own eyes.  She just said she did.)
Gerrit
--
=^..^=


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
Last experiment,
I use the ollydbg tool in order to begin to see what is the problem 
inside setup. It traps also the debug messae of setup and one ofit 
consists of saying (as it is given by this tool) :

"failed too open 
cygfile:///usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README for 
writing"

I'm examining the tool in order to know how to associate the src files 
to the debug tool. As it is a little long to do any experiment it will 
tae me a little time to gie more infos.

I also joined again the cygcheck. I verified it is exactly the same 
running the setup or not (only the time of it)

BPatin

Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Nov 11 13:10:10 2004

Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Path:   c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16
C:\WINDOWS\system32
C:\WINDOWS
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 400(bruno) GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 400(bruno) GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

Path = `c:\program 
files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program
 Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno\Application Data'
CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs'
COMPUTERNAME = `BRUNOFONTENAY'
ComSpec = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\bruno'
LOGONSERVER = `\\BRUNOFONTENAY'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
OS = `Windows_NT'
PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 13 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0d06'
ProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files'
PROMPT = `$P$G'
SESSIONNAME = `Console'
SystemDrive = `C:'
SystemRoot = `C:\WINDOWS'
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\bruno\LOCALS~1\Temp'
USERDOMAIN = `BRUNOFONTENAY'
USERNAME = `bruno'
USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno'
windir = `C:\WINDOWS'
POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
  (default) = `/cygdrive'
  cygdrive flags = 0x0022
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
  flags = 0x0002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
  (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
  flags = 0x0002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
  flags = 0x0002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options

c:  hd  NTFS   57231Mb  18% CP CS UN PA FC 
d:  cd   N/AN/A
y:  net NTFS   57857Mb  31% CP CSPAbruno
z:  net NTFS   57857Mb  31% CP CSPACommun

C:\cygwin  /  userbinmode
C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   userbinmode
C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   userbinmode
.  /cygdrive  userbinmode,cygdrive

Not Found: awk
Not Found: bash
Not Found: cat
Not Found: cp
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Not Found: find
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Not Found: grep
Not Found: ld
Not Found: ls
Not Found: make
Not Found: mv
Not Found: rm
Not Found: sed
Not Found: sh
Not Found: tar


Cygwin Package Information
No setup information found
Use -h to see help about each section


RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Bobby McNulty
It should be noted I'm using a Celeron 1.2 GB.
Windows Professional.
Service pack #2 has security features in it, and this could be one of them
(not allowing Xorg server run)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bobby McNulty
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only


Freezing back under SP2.
Here is the ps and cygcheck.



RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread Bobby McNulty
Freezing back under SP2.
Here is the ps and cygcheck.


cygcheck.out
Description: Binary data


ps.out
Description: Binary data


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
(As I had problems sending this mail, you'll receive it as the last one, 
excuse me, there is only the setup.log, before you have the three last 
compressed part of the setup full and after the first part)

Good morning this time,
Ok I'm here again.
The situation.
The problem occurs when I do a complete install of cygwin. It blocks 
every time on the same load (see before). Wen cancelling, no setup.log 
is created (I think it is normal as there is no post install made).
If after this first failed install I do a setup with only the X11 
package there, then it goes to the end of install and here is the 
setup.log  and  the first of four compressed part of a setup.log.full 
(because of the size as you know). Following, the last three part.

BPatin
2004/11/11 10:39:55 Starting cygwin install, version 2.427
2004/11/11 10:39:55 Current Directory: C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004
2004/11/11 10:39:55 Changing gid to Users
2004/11/11 10:39:55 Could not open service McShield for query, start and stop. 
McAfee may not be installed, or we don't have access.
2004/11/11 10:40:01 source: from cwd
2004/11/11 10:40:03 root: C:\cygwin binary user
2004/11/11 10:40:05 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004
2004/11/11 10:41:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/ash/ash-20040127-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/base-files/base-files-3.0-3.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/base-passwd/base-passwd-2.1-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/bash/bash-2.05b-16.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:13 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/bzip2/bzip2-1.0.2-6.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:14 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/cgoban/cgoban-1.9.14-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:15 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/cygipc/cygipc-2.03-2.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:16 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/cygutils/cygutils-1.2.5-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:19 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/cygwin/cygwin-1.5.11-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:23 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/cygwin-doc/cygwin-doc-1.3-7.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:28 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/cygwin-x-doc/cygwin-x-doc-1.0.4-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:30 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/ddd/ddd-3.3.9-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:31 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/diffutils/diffutils-2.8.7-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:34 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/editrights/editrights-1.01-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:34 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/expat/expat-1.95.8-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:34 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/fileutils/fileutils-4.1-2.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:36 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/findutils/findutils-4.1.7-4.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:37 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/fontconfig/fontconfig-2.2.2-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:39 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/freetype2/freetype2-2.1.5-1.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:39 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/X11/fvwm/fvwm-2.4.7-3.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:44 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/gawk/gawk-3.1.4-3.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:45 Installing file://C:\Documents and 
Settings\bruno\Bureau\08112004/http%3a%2f%2fmirrors.sunsite.dk%2fcygwin/release/gdbm/gdbm-1.8.3-7.tar.bz2
2004/11/11 10:41:4

Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-11 Thread bruno patin
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[SOLVED - mysteriously...not quite] Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Carlo Florendo
Carlo Florendo wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
It seems like you have a lot of XFree86 packages still installed.
I have a couple of these in my installation but certainly not the
number that I see above.

Yes.  I did it after installing cygwin minus xorg.   Regarding the 
(version) numbers, I don't remember choosing other versions besides 
the ones indicated by default  at setup.

I guess I'm a little confused now as to who's seeing what problem.
I thought that you needed a clean install to duplicate this but the
above obviously didn't come from a clean install.

I'll be doing a clean uninstall and reinstall in a short while.
Thank you cygwin people for doing such a great job at cygwin!  I'm 
seeing this not as a problem (Really!!!) but another exciting episode 
of the wonders of open source software and open-source collaboration.  
Thank you!

Cygwin Rocks!
I tried to reproduce the problem on the WinXP SP2 machine in question 
and I was unsuccessful in reproducing it...

Cygwin installed like a charm =)
Now, I don't  know why such is the case.  

Hmmm...To tell the truth, I was actually asking  someone to follow 
instructions from me, (i.e. press this button, select "Unix", click ok, 
etc.).  However, when I myself tried do a fresh uninstall and fresh 
install, all worked well. 

In any case, I'm now attaching cygcheck.out and setup.log (compressed) 
so the experts could point out what difference it had with my previous 
posting of cygcheck.out and setup.log,

My suspicion is that the one whom I asked to install cygwin did 
something else that she didn't tell me(What I saw when she was 
installing cygwin was the "99% completed" on xorg that never stopped.  
This, I verified with my  eyes.   On her following my instructions,  I 
didn't see it with my own eyes.  She just said she did.)

Sheesh...sorry for all these noise for the past 3 days. 

Thank you to all you cygwin developers.
Cygwin Rocks!
Best Regards,
Carlo
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www.astra.ph


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Carlo Florendo
Christopher Faylor wrote:
It seems like you have a lot of XFree86 packages still installed.
I have a couple of these in my installation but certainly not the
number that I see above.
Yes.  I did it after installing cygwin minus xorg.   Regarding the 
(version) numbers, I don't remember choosing other versions besides the 
ones indicated by default  at setup.

I guess I'm a little confused now as to who's seeing what problem.
I thought that you needed a clean install to duplicate this but the
above obviously didn't come from a clean install.
I'll be doing a clean uninstall and reinstall in a short while. 

Thank you cygwin people for doing such a great job at cygwin!  I'm 
seeing this not as a problem (Really!!!) but another exciting episode of 
the wonders of open source software and open-source collaboration.  
Thank you!

Cygwin Rocks!
--
Carlo Florendo
Astra Philippines Inc.
www.astra.ph


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Carlo Florendo
Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
What did you do, exactly, on the last setup run?  The log file shows that
you installed the following packages:
startup-notification-0.7-1
transfig-3.2.4-2
xorg-x11-bin-dlls-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-devel-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-fcyr-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fenc-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-libs-data-6.7.0.0-3
xorg-x11-man-pages-html-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-nest-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-vfb-6.8.1.0-1
Hmmm. what I did was to install cygwin without any xorg.  After the 
successful installation, I installed the xorg packages (as specified in 
the xorg-base README) via setup once again.  IIRC,  I do not remember 
clicking the buttons that would change the install versions.   

(which means you've downgraded xorg-x11-lib-data).  It also shows that 
the
following postinstall scripts ran:

xorg-x11-devel.sh
xorg-x11-f100.sh
xorg-x11-fcyr.sh
xorg-x11-fenc.sh
xorg-x11-fnts.sh
xorg-x11-fscl.sh
xorg-x11-libs-data.sh
xorg-x11-xwin.sh
which is odd, since you didn't reinstall xorg-x11-xwin or 
xorg-x11-f100 or
xorg-x11-fnts.  The previous run clearly shows setup installing
xorg-x11-f100 and running the postinstall script for that package, so it
should have renamed it to .done and not re-run it.
I did install xorg *after* installing cygwin minus xorg.

Hmm, the fact that it attempts to reinstall packages, coupled with the
fact that it's not renaming postinstall scripts properly, makes me wonder
whether your Cygwin directory tree is writable by the user that performs
the install.  This would also be consistent with the "Cannot open
c:\cygwin\var\log\setup.log for writing" message that others reported.
Igor

I was logged as a user under the administrator's group when I did the install.
I've gotten hold of the WinXP SP2 Machine now, on line!  I'll uninstall everything and try to reproduce the error once more. 

I'll run ps and cygcheck at the point where it stalls and provide as much 
detail as possible.
Thanks!
Best Regards,
Carlo
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Astra Philippines Inc.
www.astra.ph




Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
bruno patin wrote:
Good evening again,
install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if 
there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?

joined :
an analysis of my system
the cygcheck result
Please add -r to the cygcheck options for the registry scan.
Gerrit
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 08:54:17AM +0800, Carlo Florendo wrote:
>XFree86-base4.3.0-11 
>XFree86-bin 4.3.0-21 
>XFree86-bin-icons   4.3.0-7  
>XFree86-doc 4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-etc 4.3.0-12 
>XFree86-f1004.3.0-2  
>XFree86-fcyr4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-fenc4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-fnts4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-fscl4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-fsrv4.3.0-9  
>XFree86-html4.3.0-10 
>XFree86-jdoc4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-lib 4.3.0-3  
>XFree86-lib-compat  4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-man 4.3.0-10 
>XFree86-nest4.3.0-8  
>XFree86-prog4.3.0-21 
>XFree86-prt 4.3.0-6  
>XFree86-ps  4.3.0-2  
>XFree86-startup-scripts 4.3.0-1  
>XFree86-vfb 4.3.0-8  
>XFree86-xserv   4.3.0-68 
>XFree86-xwinclip4.3.0-3  
>[snip]
>xorg-x11-base   6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-bin6.8.1.0-2
>xorg-x11-bin-dlls   6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-bin-lndir  6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-devel  6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-etc6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-f100   6.8.1.0-3
>xorg-x11-fcyr   6.8.1.0-2
>xorg-x11-fenc   6.8.1.0-2
>xorg-x11-fnts   6.8.1.0-3
>xorg-x11-fscl   6.8.1.0-2
>xorg-x11-fsrv   6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-libs-data  6.7.0.0-3
>xorg-x11-man-pages  6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-man-pages-html 6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-nest   6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-vfb6.8.1.0-1
>xorg-x11-xwin   6.8.1.0-5

It seems like you have a lot of XFree86 packages still installed.
I have a couple of these in my installation but certainly not the
number that I see above.

I guess I'm a little confused now as to who's seeing what problem.
I thought that you needed a clean install to duplicate this but the
above obviously didn't come from a clean install.

Igor, are you up to posting a summary of who's seen what problem and
who's provided the requested feedback (setup.log, ps -ef, cygcheck)?

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Carlo Florendo wrote:
[snip]
In any case, here's setup.log.bz2.  (Compressed since it is greater than
100K) The WinXP SP2 machine is accessible to me off-line.  Thus, the
delay in the sending of these files.
Carlo,
What did you do, exactly, on the last setup run?  The log file shows that
you installed the following packages:
startup-notification-0.7-1
transfig-3.2.4-2
xorg-x11-bin-dlls-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-devel-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-fcyr-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fenc-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
xorg-x11-fsrv-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-libs-data-6.7.0.0-3
xorg-x11-man-pages-html-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-nest-6.8.1.0-1
xorg-x11-vfb-6.8.1.0-1
(which means you've downgraded xorg-x11-lib-data).  It also shows that the
following postinstall scripts ran:
xorg-x11-devel.sh
xorg-x11-f100.sh
xorg-x11-fcyr.sh
xorg-x11-fenc.sh
xorg-x11-fnts.sh
xorg-x11-fscl.sh
xorg-x11-libs-data.sh
xorg-x11-xwin.sh
which is odd, since you didn't reinstall xorg-x11-xwin or xorg-x11-f100 or
xorg-x11-fnts.  The previous run clearly shows setup installing
xorg-x11-f100 and running the postinstall script for that package, so it
should have renamed it to .done and not re-run it.
Hmm, the fact that it attempts to reinstall packages, coupled with the
fact that it's not renaming postinstall scripts properly, makes me wonder
whether your Cygwin directory tree is writable by the user that performs
the install.  This would also be consistent with the "Cannot open
c:\cygwin\var\log\setup.log for writing" message that others reported.
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin
Igor,
I've tried to chmod directly the var directory thinking it could be the 
answer but it does not work. I block on the same file and that's all. I 
don't think sending you another cygcheck is really necessary. I'll find 
a way to follow what's going on in the setup app. Perhaps you have ideas ?

BPatin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin
Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, bruno patin wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Also, I believe that Gerrit suggested sending the contents of the 
setup
> log files.
>
> [snip]
>
> I appreciate that you're trying to think of solutions here but there
> have already been a couple of suggestions that no one seems to have
> bothered to follow through on.   Why not just humor us and provide the
> debugging info that we're asking for?


3 the setup.log file (this mail)
..
Hope that helps
BPatin

This setup.log doesn't show any install actions whatsoever.  All it shows
is that you've downloaded a bunch of packages.
I suspect this may have something to do with that "Cannot open setup.log
for writing" error message.  Try running "c:\cygwin\bin\chmod a+w
setup.log setup.log.full" from a CMD prompt in "c:\cygwin\var\log" and
then re-running setup.  Also, setup.log.full should contain more detailed
error messages after a failed setup run (beware -- that file is
overwritten on every run of setup).
Igor
Igor,
I've no setup.log created in /var/log in fact what I sent you was 
bullshit as it is only the result of my dowload as I see it (first time 
I'm really examining the internal of setup sorry, it works too well). 
Result is that there is no file in /var/log. Can be a real clue.

BPatin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, bruno patin wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Also, I believe that Gerrit suggested sending the contents of the setup
> log files.
>
> [snip]
>
> I appreciate that you're trying to think of solutions here but there
> have already been a couple of suggestions that no one seems to have
> bothered to follow through on.   Why not just humor us and provide the
> debugging info that we're asking for?

3 the setup.log file (this mail)
..
Hope that helps
BPatin
This setup.log doesn't show any install actions whatsoever.  All it shows
is that you've downloaded a bunch of packages.
I suspect this may have something to do with that "Cannot open setup.log
for writing" error message.  Try running "c:\cygwin\bin\chmod a+w
setup.log setup.log.full" from a CMD prompt in "c:\cygwin\var\log" and
then re-running setup.  Also, setup.log.full should contain more detailed
error messages after a failed setup run (beware -- that file is
overwritten on every run of setup).
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Darryl wrote:

> Hi!
>
> 1) Cygwin is not a commercial set up , we do not pay support fees, we do
> not even pay for Cygwin.
>
> 2) We accept red hat owns the IP
>
> 3) The "developers & supporters" are volunteers, they do not HAVE to be
> nice and have the "customer is always right" approach as opposed to some
> of us in the commercial world.
>
> 4) They receive many many calls, they answer then briefly even abruptly,
> but they answer them.
>
> 5) Any developer knows that maintaining any product requires careful
> diligent thoughts and processes AND TIME
>
> So just be patient and appreciative.
>
> Having said that 
>
> Maybe the site needs a code of conduct for the non contributors, a down
> load that will lay out a procedure to use, because when you are new it
> is easy not to know the rules. If one exists - sorry, it needs to be
> more prominent, a sort of download - now sign in blood approach.

What's wrong with ?  It's the first link
("Reporting Problems") in the "Community" section of the sidebar on most
Cygwin pages, and the 5th overall link in that sidebar.  How much more
prominent should it be?

There's also a section on the main Cygwin webpage that describes this code
of conduct you mention ().  It's where the
"Help, contact, web page, other info..." link at the top of the main page
points to.
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Darryl
Hi!
1) Cygwin is not a commercial set up , we do not pay support fees, we do 
not even pay for Cygwin.

2) We accept red hat owns the IP
3) The "developers & supporters" are volunteers, they do not HAVE to be 
nice and have the "customer is always right" approach as opposed to some of 
us in the commercial world.

4) They receive many many calls, they answer then briefly even abruptly, 
but they answer them.

5) Any developer knows that maintaining any product requires careful 
diligent thoughts and processes AND TIME

So just be patient and appreciative.
Having said that 
Maybe the site needs a code of conduct for the non contributors, a down 
load that will lay out a procedure to use, because when you are new it is 
easy not to know the rules. If one exists - sorry, it needs to be more 
prominent, a sort of download - now sign in blood approach.

Keep up the good work guys.
Darryl



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin

I appreciate that you're trying to think of solutions here but there
have already been a couple of suggestions that no one seems to have
bothered to follow through on.   Why not just humor us and provide the
debugging info that we're asking for?
cgf
 

I'm on it  really :-)
I'll give you what needed as fast as possible but ... I'm on the way of 
compiling mico and this is a bit long. I'll do as said just after.

BPatin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:50:58PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>>Is there some reason why you won't just run cygcheck.exe while setup is
>>hung?  Have you tried it?  AFAIK, cygcheck should be operational by the
>>time setup has gotten to installing X.  It really has to be operational
>>since cygcheck.exe comes along with the Cygwin DLL.
>>
>>Also, you could even run, oh I don't know, it's just a pretty drastic
>>suggestion, but you *could* run "ps -ef".
>>
>>
>In fact I did not use ps -ef (and cygcheck by the the way) for two
>reasons: 1/ I was following what happened with the windows task manager
>tool (where I followed the memory consumption) 2/ At this step of the
>install, you do not have the .bat or .sh command

Just run the programs directly from the cygwin directory:

c:\cygwin\bin\cygcheck -r -s -v > blah1

c:\cygwin\bin\ps -ef > blah2

Also, I believe that Gerrit suggested sending the contents of the setup
log files.

>I was wondering, if I launch setup.exe from my first installed cygwin on 
>another directory using strace, will there be interactions between the 
>old and new install ? Is it possible to have two completely different 
>cywin install ? If yes I would know what is the loop in the program.
>
>yes or no ?

strace is for cygwin programs.  setup.exe is not a cygwin program.  It
can't be.  Requiring cygwin1.dll to install cygwin1.dll would never work.

I appreciate that you're trying to think of solutions here but there
have already been a couple of suggestions that no one seems to have
bothered to follow through on.   Why not just humor us and provide the
debugging info that we're asking for?

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin

Is there some reason why you won't just run cygcheck.exe while setup is
hung?  Have you tried it?  AFAIK, cygcheck should be operational by the
time setup has gotten to installing X.  It really has to be operational
since cygcheck.exe comes along with the Cygwin DLL.
Also, you could even run, oh I don't know, it's just a pretty drastic
suggestion, but you *could* run "ps -ef".
 

In fact I did not use ps -ef (and cygcheck by the the way) for two reasons:
1/ I was following what happened with the windows task manager tool 
(where I followed the memory consumption)
2/ At this step of the install, you do not have the .bat or .sh command

I was wondering, if I launch setup.exe from my first installed cygwin on 
another directory using strace, will there be interactions between the 
old and new install ? Is it possible to have two completely different 
cywin install ? If yes I would know what is the loop in the program.

yes or no ?
B.Patin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 08:43:02PM +0100, bruno patin wrote:
>Good evening from france,
>
>I bought a new box some days ago and decided to install cygwin. I had 
>exactly the same install problem than the other people of the list. My 
>computer is a win xp family edition sp2. I have the administrator rights 
>and installed using the "just me" and "unix" options. What I saw is that 
>the process was not blocked but reserved more and more memory (I stopped 
>at 1Go). when cancelled, setup gave me the message indicated on a post 
>before. I will try in some mns to install again (a fresh install, I 
>removed all by hand after my  attempts) without the xorg package in 
>order to obtain a cygcheck command to give you new informations plus I 
>will reinstall these xorg packages.

Is there some reason why you won't just run cygcheck.exe while setup is
hung?  Have you tried it?  AFAIK, cygcheck should be operational by the
time setup has gotten to installing X.  It really has to be operational
since cygcheck.exe comes along with the Cygwin DLL.

Also, you could even run, oh I don't know, it's just a pretty drastic
suggestion, but you *could* run "ps -ef".

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin
Good evening again,
install in two phases worked well. I can deinstall again and verify if 
there is the problem again ? could it be useful ?

joined :
an analysis of my system
the cygcheck result
hope that helps

Bobby McNulty wrote:
Look, I love Cygwin, xorg, and KDE.
I set up webpage so I can contribute to the progect.
And I will. I have to find some soundfonts small enough to distribute with
Timidity.
I wanted to also contribute Rosegarden. It requires KDE and Xorg.
I will try again in a minute here, without xorg, and then install xorg.
Sorry. I'm used to installing it all at once, not in pieces.
Alex, you are doing a great job with it. I was just perturbed that I could
not get it installed.
See you in two hours.
I'll be back then.
Bobby
http://www.geocities.com/bobbymcn2004
Home page


 


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c:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 1006(bruno) GID: 513(Aucun)
513(Aucun)

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 1006(bruno) GID: 513(Aucun)
0(root)   513(Aucun)
544(Administrateurs)  545(Utilisateurs)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\bruno'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/home/bruno'
USER = `bruno'

Use `-r' to scan registry

c:  hd  NTFS   57231Mb  16% CP CS UN PA FC 
d:  cd   N/AN/A
y:  net NTFS   57857Mb  31% CP CSPAbruno
z:  net NTFS   57857Mb  31% CP CSPACommun

C:\cygwin  /  userbinmode
C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   userbinmode
C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   userbinmode
.  /cygdrive  userbinmode,cygdrive

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\awk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\tar.exe

  120k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_client-1-0.dll
   25k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_delta-1-0.dll
   22k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_diff-1-0.dll
   11k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_fs-1-0.dll
  108k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_fs_base-1-0.dll
   75k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_fs_fs-1-0.dll
7k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_ra-1-0.dll
   69k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_ra_dav-1-0.dll
   14k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_ra_local-1-0.dll
   49k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_ra_svn-1-0.dll
   79k 2004/10/26 C:\cygwin\lib\subversion\bin\cygsvn_repos-1-0.dll
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RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Bobby McNulty
Look, I love Cygwin, xorg, and KDE.
I set up webpage so I can contribute to the progect.
And I will. I have to find some soundfonts small enough to distribute with
Timidity.
I wanted to also contribute Rosegarden. It requires KDE and Xorg.
I will try again in a minute here, without xorg, and then install xorg.
Sorry. I'm used to installing it all at once, not in pieces.
Alex, you are doing a great job with it. I was just perturbed that I could
not get it installed.
See you in two hours.
I'll be back then.
Bobby
http://www.geocities.com/bobbymcn2004
Home page




Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread bruno patin
Good evening from france,
I bought a new box some days ago and decided to install cygwin. I had 
exactly the same install problem than the other people of the list. My 
computer is a win xp family edition sp2. I have the administrator rights 
and installed using the "just me" and "unix" options. What I saw is that 
the process was not blocked but reserved more and more memory (I stopped 
at 1Go). when cancelled, setup gave me the message indicated on a post 
before. I will try in some mns to install again (a fresh install, I 
removed all by hand after my  attempts) without the xorg package in 
order to obtain a cygcheck command to give you new informations plus I 
will reinstall these xorg packages.

By the way, I do not understand the debate (?). Your work is great, 
really. I use cygwin and cygwin-xfree since beta 15. Whatever the 
problems, unavoidable on such projects, your accomplishments are totally 
extraordinary. For my part, I consider that whatever you ask me to do to 
help I have only one choice but to do it.

Thank you again
B.Patin


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander Gottwald
Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> Bobby McNulty wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the insult, but under Harolld, he would have everything tested
> > on different machines and configurations. I'm running Windows XP
> > professional with Service Pack #2. Find out what the others are using.
>
> I don't expect people to send me flowers
> for my work. But I expect them not to insult me in complete disregard of
> the amount of time I invest in the project.

Bobby, the former posting was not a rant against you. It was more a general
statement. You apologized and I don't want to keep fire burning.

bye
ago
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
Maybe you need to turn off the firewall?  

Firewall is enabled (default settings)
Is it a difference what permissions a user has or in which groups she 
is?  I am in the Administrators group everywhere.

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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:41:02AM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
>Bobby McNulty wrote:
>>Sorry for the insult, but under Harolld, he would have everything
>>tested on different machines and configurations.  I'm running Windows
>>XP professional with Service Pack #2.  Find out what the others are
>>using.
>
>I don't expect people to send me flowers for my work.  But I expect
>them not to insult me in complete disregard of the amount of time I
>invest in the project.

It's not an unreasonable expectation especially given the lunacy of
insulting someone whose help you are soliciting.

Hang in there, Alexander.  You are appreciated.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 07:38:41PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> >
> >> Gerrit, I will try once more.
> >> This time, though, all my software was in place, no service pack, nothing,
> >> just Office.
> >> Same spot, same readme file.
> >> the mirror I was using was mirrors.rcn.net, which is the fastest one I 
> >> found
> >> have been using for two years now.
> >
> >... and which has a setup.ini dated 11/09/2003 (!).
>
> The timestamp on setup.ini is fine.  Either you are misinterpreting it
> or there is something wrong with your software.

So it is.  Sorry for the noise.
Igor
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander Gottwald
Bobby McNulty wrote:

> Sorry for the insult, but under Harolld, he would have everything tested
> on different machines and configurations. I'm running Windows XP
> professional with Service Pack #2. Find out what the others are using.

I have currently two machines for testing:
Win2k SP4
WinXP SP2 running on VmWare

Both are at work. The compilation and release building is done on the
Win2k host. At home I have no decent machine to test the xserver. Only
a 500MHz linux box where I can cross compile and test the xserver in a
pain slow VmWare win2k. I'd like to add a machine dedicated for windows
to make debugging less painful. But where should I take the money from?
I spend a lot of time for the project. Should I also spend the money
I saved? I don't think so. And everytime someone speaks up and tells
me I'm not doing the work right I even think spending the time may be
wrong.

Even a simple bugfix is a lot of work. For example the Lucida font were
missing because of a regression in the makefiles. Identifying the error
took me about 2 or 3 hours. This I could do at home. For building the
packages I had to go to the office. Just building the package, verifying
it worked, uploading it and writing the announcement took about 90 minutes.
And if you check the sending time of the announcement you'll notice it was
sent Friday night, around 23:00. I don't expect people to send me flowers
for my work. But I expect them not to insult me in complete disregard of
the amount of time I invest in the project.

It was also mentioned I (and other regulars) could answer mails more polite
and tell the user which information I need to track the error down.

There was a time when the xserver just quit on error and left a log file.
Users just told us the xserver did not work. We told them there was an error
and asked them to send the logfile.
After all we added a message box which told the user there was an error and
the logfile may contain more information. Now there are still users who
send mails telling us there was a message box popping up and XWin does not
work. No information what the logfile told. The standard (and maybe rough)
answer is "send the logfile".
There are many examples where I'm just tired of telling the same thing over
and over again.

bye
ago, heading to bed now
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 07:38:41PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
>
>> Gerrit, I will try once more.
>> This time, though, all my software was in place, no service pack, nothing,
>> just Office.
>> Same spot, same readme file.
>> the mirror I was using was mirrors.rcn.net, which is the fastest one I found
>> have been using for two years now.
>
>... and which has a setup.ini dated 11/09/2003 (!).

The timestamp on setup.ini is fine.  Either you are misinterpreting it
or there is something wrong with your software.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:

> Roboco Sanchez wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure what different posting you're referring to. Maybe they
>  > all provide correct information and maybe they are two or more
>  > different problems?
> 
> One was from Hannu which was about a completely different issue which I 
> replied in lenght, the other was from Bobby today, I saw nothing else, 
> sorry.
> 
> >>I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4 
> >>AND it works fine on XP/SP2.
> >>
> >>$ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
> >>Cygwin Package Information
> >>Package  VersionStatus
> >>xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK
> > 
> > Did you use setup.exe? Did you reinstall to and existing package? 
>  > This problem (the one by Bobby which you replied to above) occurs
>  > when you install Cygwin on a fresh XP using setup.exe .
> 
> Of course, I use always setup.exe.  It was a reinstallation which 
> indicates that it works well before at least one time.  I cannot install 
> a fresh XP. 

I've installed it on a test machine in VMWare with WinXP SP2 (nearly fresh
system: Installed as XP, upgraded to SP1, upgraded to SP2. No installed 
software except for drivers) and had no problems

Selected install from net (user/global, unix/dos left as defaults).
Mirror: local mirror from mirrors.kernel.org
Default package selection + all xorg-x11-*

> Maybe you need to turn off the firewall?  

Firewall is enabled (default settings)

Not being able to reproduce a problem makes it a pain to solve it.

bye
ago
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RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:

> Gerrit, I will try once more.
> This time, though, all my software was in place, no service pack, nothing,
> just Office.
> Same spot, same readme file.
> the mirror I was using was mirrors.rcn.net, which is the fastest one I found
> have been using for two years now.

... and which has a setup.ini dated 11/09/2003 (!).

Hmm, come to think of it, so does ftp://cygwin.com...  Could that be
what's throwing setup off?
Igor

Oh, and <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  Thanks.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerrit P. Haase
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only
>
> Bobby McNulty wrote:
>
> > OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file
> > that it is hanging at.
> > Cygwin setup is at 97%
> > it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
> > /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
> >
> > its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.
>
> In a different posting it was said that it is the fontserver package,
> this is a different package.  How should we debug this problem without
> correct information?
>
> This is the first posting I see about this issue where I read a detailed
> description, all the others I read (maybe I have not seen all of them)
> were about some readme file, fontserver..., nothing useful.
>
> I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4
> AND it works fine on XP/SP2.
>
> $ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
> Cygwin Package Information
> Package  VersionStatus
> xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK
>
> Why don't you send the output of cygcheck -srv as an attachment?
>
> Maybe your mount table is broken?  Maybe your XP/SP2 is broken?
>
> Why are you not providing more information?  You cannot expect that we
> can fix a problem which we don't have, I cannot help debugging it
> without even seeing the problem.
>
> Gerrit
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Roboco Sanchez wrote:
I'm not sure what different posting you're referring to. Maybe they
> all provide correct information and maybe they are two or more
> different problems?
One was from Hannu which was about a completely different issue which I 
replied in lenght, the other was from Bobby today, I saw nothing else, 
sorry.

I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4 
AND it works fine on XP/SP2.

$ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK
Did you use setup.exe? Did you reinstall to and existing package? 
> This problem (the one by Bobby which you replied to above) occurs
> when you install Cygwin on a fresh XP using setup.exe .
Of course, I use always setup.exe.  It was a reinstallation which 
indicates that it works well before at least one time.  I cannot install 
a fresh XP.  Maybe you need to turn off the firewall?  I don't know, I 
have deactivated every new feature which comes with SP2 because I'm an 
adminstrator, I don't need a dummy user software firewall which does 
nothing else but prevent me fromn accessing my network.  We use hardware 
firewalls.


Please read all these posts. They are exactly the same problem (but 
> maybe with different warning/error msgs and/or different
> posting styles):
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00081.html [Bobby's, 03/11]
"Its freezing while set up fsrv", no cygcheck.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00166.html [Ling's, 04/11]
"x11-fsrv font server at README" , no cygcheck output.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00167.html [Bobby's, 04/11]
"Me too..." no cygcheck output.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00246.html [Ling's, 06/11]
"Cygwin setup seems to freezes at xorg-x11-fenc-6.8.1.0.README", no 
cygcheck output.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00253.html [Mine, 06/11]
"freezing at xorg-x11-nest-6.8.1.0-1" and "now at 
xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2" and no cygcheck output.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00335.html [Carlo's, 09/11]
"Cannot open log file C:\cygwin/var/log/setup.log for writing"
Hmmm, another problem?  Anyway, no cygcheck output.
There are some useful bits, at least in your posting where is clearly 
stated that it is not a specific package.

However there was no cygcheck output, all reports about nearly the same 
issue.  I cannot reproduce it.  I have a different problem now myself, 
but at first some historical notes. At my first setup.exe run with 
XP/SP2 it  crashed, I tracked it down myself after nobody was able to 
help, it was some dubious M$ software installed, I removed it, cleaned 
the registry and now it works.  Well, now I get an error when a 
preremove/postinstall script should be executed: ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED, 
which indicates that XP refuses setup.exe to access parts of the 
filesystem, ie. it was a problem with cron.sh, running from the command 
line works well.  It is simply a problem with the ACL on this system (I 
have XP Pro).  I have not figured out what the problem is now.  Funny 
thing is that I always have another new problem when running setup on XP 
and I have never problems when running on W2K or NT4.

I suggest we should all go to the local XP dealer and complain!
Get the money back. Your local dealer will not be that friendly as he 
was the day when you bought the system, but maybe he has an old copy of 
W2K lying around, pay the same price, no problem, W2K is better.

Why don't you send the output of cygcheck -srv as an attachment?
I wish we could do that before or while running setup.exe .
Nope, it is completely sufficient when you install a cygwin base system 
and run `cygcheck -svr > cygcheck.out` and send it as an attachment.

What is in the Eventlog?  Do you have XP Home or XP Pro, is there an 
Eventlog at all at XP Home?  We really need more information and you 
have the error and should help to collect this informations.

At least for the archives, when we figure out what the problem is we can 
introduce features in cygcheck to check for these issues, but we need to 
know the reason of the problem.


Maybe your mount table is broken?  Maybe your XP/SP2 is broken?
3-4 people have been reporting this problem. Maybe their XP all are broken.
XP has many new features, figure out what they have published about SP2, 
turn off all the useless security fuzz.


Why are you not providing more information?
Problem is users don't know what "more information" develpers want. Developers 
got to ask (or demand, whatever) from users.
http://cygwin.com/problems.html
This is the fifth hyperlink at the left hand side of the main website, 
read it and try to provide some useful information, please.

You cannot expect that we can fix a problem which we don't have, 
>>I cannot help debugging it without even seeing the problem.
Again, 3-4 people having the same problem should be enough to confirm that there 
really is a problem.
I have problems too, but I don't complain, I try

Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Roboco Sanchez
Gerrit P. Haase  familiehaase.de> writes:

> 
> Bobby McNulty wrote:
> 
> > OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file 
> > that it is hanging at.
> > Cygwin setup is at 97%
> > it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
> > /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
> > 
> > its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.
> 
> In a different posting it was said that it is the fontserver package, 
> this is a different package.  How should we debug this problem without 
> correct information?

I'm not sure what different posting you're referring to. Maybe they all provide 
correct information and maybe they are two or more different problems?

> 
> This is the first posting I see about this issue where I read a detailed 
> description, all the others I read (maybe I have not seen all of them) 
> were about some readme file, fontserver..., nothing useful.
> 
> I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4 
> AND it works fine on XP/SP2.
> 
> $ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
> Cygwin Package Information
> Package  VersionStatus
> xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK
> 

Did you use setup.exe? Did you reinstall to and existing package? This problem 
(the one by Bobby which you replied to above) occurs when you install Cygwin on 
a fresh XP using setup.exe .

Please read all these posts. They are exactly the same problem (but maybe with 
different warning/error msgs and/or different posting styles):

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00081.html [Bobby's, 03/11]
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00166.html [Ling's, 04/11]
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00167.html [Bobby's, 04/11]
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00246.html [Ling's, 06/11]
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00253.html [Mine, 06/11]
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00335.html [Carlo's, 09/11]

> 
> Why don't you send the output of cygcheck -srv as an attachment?
> 

I wish we could do that before or while running setup.exe .

> Maybe your mount table is broken?  Maybe your XP/SP2 is broken?
> 

3-4 people have been reporting this problem. Maybe their XP all are broken.

> Why are you not providing more information?

Problem is users don't know what "more information" develpers want. Developers 
got to ask (or demand, whatever) from users.

> You cannot expect that we 
> can fix a problem which we don't have, I cannot help debugging it 
> without even seeing the problem.
> 

Again, 3-4 people having the same problem should be enough to confirm that 
there 
really is a problem.

> Gerrit

Is there any way users can turn on debugging mode when running setup.exe? 
Things 
would be a lot easier if users could do so.




RE: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Bobby McNulty
Gerrit, I will try once more.
This time, though, all my software was in place, no service pack, nothing,
just Office.
Same spot, same readme file.
the mirror I was using was mirrors.rcn.net, which is the fastest one I found
have been using for two years now.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerrit P. Haase
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only


Bobby McNulty wrote:

> OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file
> that it is hanging at.
> Cygwin setup is at 97%
> it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
> /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
>
> its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.

In a different posting it was said that it is the fontserver package,
this is a different package.  How should we debug this problem without
correct information?

This is the first posting I see about this issue where I read a detailed
description, all the others I read (maybe I have not seen all of them)
were about some readme file, fontserver..., nothing useful.

I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4
AND it works fine on XP/SP2.

$ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK


Why don't you send the output of cygcheck -srv as an attachment?

Maybe your mount table is broken?  Maybe your XP/SP2 is broken?

Why are you not providing more information?  You cannot expect that we
can fix a problem which we don't have, I cannot help debugging it
without even seeing the problem.


Gerrit
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Bobby McNulty wrote:
OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file 
that it is hanging at.
Cygwin setup is at 97%
it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README

its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.
In a different posting it was said that it is the fontserver package, 
this is a different package.  How should we debug this problem without 
correct information?

This is the first posting I see about this issue where I read a detailed 
description, all the others I read (maybe I have not seen all of them) 
were about some readme file, fontserver..., nothing useful.

I just reinstalled this xorg-x11-fscl package now, it works fine on NT4 
AND it works fine on XP/SP2.

$ cygcheck -c xorg-x11-fscl
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
xorg-x11-fscl6.8.1.0-2  OK
Why don't you send the output of cygcheck -srv as an attachment?
Maybe your mount table is broken?  Maybe your XP/SP2 is broken?
Why are you not providing more information?  You cannot expect that we 
can fix a problem which we don't have, I cannot help debugging it 
without even seeing the problem.

Gerrit
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:31:53PM +, Roboco Sanchez wrote:
>The setup.exe should do the installation job properly.
>[snip]
>As for what our two develpers said, I do respect them for what they do
>for us but I wouldn't tell my users to shut up like that.  Being a
>volunteer doing things for people for free doesn't give you the right
>to do that.

Did you *read* what Bobby said about Alexander?  Why didn't you jump to
Alexander's defense if you respect him so much?

Or does being a user of free software does give someone the right to
insult a developer?  That seems pretty one-sided to me.

>You need the users and the users need you.

You somehow think that there is a flow of obligation going from me to
you?  You're very wrong.  You are benefitting from my efforts and
Alexander's efforts.  I am not benefitting from your efforts in any way.

That is not true of some users here who are capable of sending bug
reports or providing constructive feedback without pontificating.  Since
I care about cygwin, I do appreciate when people can provide feedback
without whining and without insulting the people who have donated their
time to help them.

You have no rights here.  Sorry.

>It is simple, you either do it your best or you don't do it at all.

Sorry, but that is simple-minded pap.  How can you judge what someone's
"best" is?  So, if I can't give cygwin 100% of my effort, I should just
abandon it?  Ridiculous.

>There are people who can do better or have done better as Bobby
>implied.  You should listen to what users have to say.  Not just praise
>you also have to listen to criticism.

Whining about how no one is helping you and suggesting that the old regime
did it better is not criticism.  It is complaining.  The difference should
be pretty obvious.


>All can be constructive depends on how you look at it and how
>open-minded you are.  You shouldn't tell your users to come do what
>you're doing if they think they can do better.

And, you shouldn't invent scenarios to make your point.  No one said
anything about telling users to "do what (I'm) doing".

>That reminds me of politicians in some third-world countries.  You
>should have done better in this case.

Funny, but your email reminds me a lot of a campaign speech, short on
specifics, long on emotion.

>They are not as genius as you otherwise they wouldn't be here asking
>for help.

I think you may have missed the fact that I was responding mainly
to Bobby's insult.  My message was specifically targetted to someone
with whom I've interacted for years.  I have no idea who you are or
why you take insult at a message which was not directed to you.

>In fact I even gave more information.  Like, the error points were
>different between archives from different mirror sites.

Again, you seem to be missing the fact that I was responding to Bobby,
not you.  However, since you raise the point, let me say that this
probably isn't very useful data either.  Neither setup.exe nor X are my
responsibility but I can't imagine how the fact that something dies
differently given different mirror sites would be useful data unless
you rigorously tested each mirror site and verified that this isn't
just something random.  But, that's probably just my genius talking.

Anyway, I think that's about as much as I care to respond to.

Just as an observation, no matter how right you think you are, it's hard
to see how any logical person would expect quality help from people who
they have maligned.

"You're a slimy politician who won't listen to criticism and who should
either be doing a better job or resign."

"Please help me."

Pretty funny.

Again, for the record, neither setup problems nor X problems are my
responsibility.  I just step in when I see people being personally
insulting towards one of the people who have donated their time to help
them.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-09 Thread Roboco Sanchez
Bobby McNulty  bellsouth.net> writes:

> 
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> I'm not installing cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is
> resolved.  One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.  Which
> I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port
> won't work,.  The KDE port won't work either.  Get Harold Hunt back
> here to fix this.  The current maintainers have no idea what they are
> doing.
> 
> 
> >>>Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look.
> >>>
> >>>As I've said it was working for me until last week.  I've not received
> >>>any useful data which may help tracking this down.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good.  If not then stop
> >>>insulting me or do it better.
> >>>
> >>>bye ago, enraged
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Alex, I think the problem is with setup.  Because when setup gets to
> >>the fontserver, where 4 people are complaining so far, it stalls on a
> >>readme file.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It works fine for me.  Just tried it.
> >
> >You've been reading the cygwin mailing list long enough to know that you
> >have not provided the slightest shred of useful data
> >
> >Bobby, either provide useful information or just shut up.  Telling
> >everyone what you are going to do or not going to do and insulting
> >people is totally unproductive.
> >
> >Do me a favor and don't even respond to this email.  Either provide some
> >details or just be quiet.  Useful details might be, for example, "ps -ef"
> >output.
> >
> >cgf
> >
> >  
> >
> OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file 
> that it is hanging at.
> Cygwin setup is at 97%
> it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
> /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
> 
> its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.
> 
> 

I'm about to say something that surely is going to upset some people here. Try 
not to get mad at me anyway. Warning: if you are not open-minded kind of 
person, 
you're advised to skip everyting below.

This issue was first reported by Bobby McNulty on 03/11. Then on 04/11 Ling F. 
Zhang reported the same problem and said he was the third one to report the 
problem although I still can't find that second one. Ling asked the same 
question again on 06/11 providing some more information. I posted the same 
question on 06/11 confirming the issue and providing quite detailed information 
(I think). All these were in cygwin section. Now you can count how many people 
had been having this problem. Nobody was interested in the issue until Bobby 
spoke up yesterday. I think what he said was perfectly all right and 
reasonable. 
I myself have also been waiting for this setup issue to be resolved before I 
install Cygwin on this new computer. I last installed Cygwin in Dec 2003 and 
I've just got a new computer and installed a fresh clean Windows XP and want to 
install the latest Cygwin in full. I don't want to skip the X part and install 
it manually afterwards as I have no idea if that would do exactly the same 
thing. The setup.exe should do the installation job properly.

As for what our two develpers said, I do respect them for what they do for us 
but I wouldn't tell my users to shut up like that. Being a volunteer doing 
things for people for free doesn't give you the right to do that. You need the 
users and the users need you. It is simple, you either do it your best or you 
don't do it at all. There are people who can do better or have done better as 
Bobby implied. You should listen to what users have to say. Not just praise you 
also have to listen to criticism. All can be constructive depends on how you 
look at it and how open-minded you are. You shouldn't tell your users to come 
do 
what you're doing if they think they can do better. That reminds me of 
politicians in some third-world countries. You should have done better in this 
case. You should ask for more information from users instead of assuming 
everyone knows what information they should provide or telling them to shut up 
when they don't do what you think they should do. They are not as genius as you 
otherwise they wouldn't be here asking for help. What Bobby and Carlo reported 
yesterday and today are the same thing I already reported 3 days ago. In fact I 
even gave more information. Like, the error points were different between 
archives from different mirror sites. That post of mine was cited in yesterday 
posts did anyone take a look at it before asking Bobby for more information? He 
also mentioned 4 people had been complaining did anyone check those posts by 
those 4 people? Also I had no idea you could do "ps -ef" while installing 
Cygwin.

Now, I think that's more than enough to get myself flamed for today. Feel free 
t

Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Carlo Florendo
Thank you all for the replies.  I'm sorry but it seems that I wasn't 
cc'd for all messages (I mentioned I'm not part of the Cygwin/XFree ML).
So, I just replied to my original message.  (Sorry if this breaks the 
thread.)

So, I've just checked the ML website and read up to the one of Bobby Mc 
Nulty's message on 09 Nov 2004:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-11/msg00031.html

In any case, I am not able to replicate the problem now since I'm on 
Win2K SP4.  The problem only appears to be on WinXP SP2.  I'm sorry I'm 
not providing anything useful (e.g. No ps -ef nor cygcheck output) since 
I won't be able to get hold of the WinXP SP2 machine now.  I'll probably
be able to do it, but off-line.

The post last 04 Nov 2004, 
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00167.html,
says that xorg stalled via setup on a WinXP SP2.  I don't know if 
there's a correlation.

In any case, the issue with setup is that it doesn't install the 
dependencies of xorg-base.  I installed cygwin without the X and
afterwards, installed xorg-base (since that is what the Cygwin/XFree 
site says).
However, only the script files get installed.  (I'll post a message to
the cygwin-list).  I got everything working after installing (via setup) 
the dependencies listed on the xorg README file.

Thanks!
Best Regards,
Carlo

Carlo Florendo wrote:
Hello Cygwin/XFree gurus,
I've installed cygwin on a WinXP SP2 machine and setup looped forever up 
to the point when it was post-installing the xorg applications.   I got 
99% done.

This issue has been discussed last week only as started by these 2 
separate threads of messages:

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00214.html
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00253.html
However, the issue has not been resolved.
Then, I uninstalled everything and re-installed cygwin any *without* 
selecting anything from the X11 category.  All went well!

Then, I just thought of installing the X apps manually.
The front page of the cygwin/xfree website says that:
"Cygwin/X is installed via Cygwin's setup.exe and the installation 
process is documented in the Cygwin/X User's Guide. Whether or not you 
already have Cygwin installed, you can add Cygwin/X to your installation 
by downloading the latest setup.exe, running setup, and selecting the 
'xorg-x11-base' package from the 'X11' category."

However, selecting only the xorg-x11-base package would install only:
  /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-6.8.1.0.README
  /etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.csh
  /etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.sh
Thus, it would probably be better to update the main page such that it 
wouldn't be misleading.  (Other users might think only xorg-X11-base 
should be installed since that is what the website says.)

The README file contains the needed package dependencies so once could 
follow from that.  However, not everyone reads the README.

You may want to add something like this after the paragraph quoted above:
"Once you have installed the 'xorg-x11-base' package, open your 
/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-.README
file and install (via setup) the package dependencies listed there."

In any case, any hints on why installing xorg fails?
Please include me on the cc since I do not subscribe to the cygwin/xfree 
list.  Thanks!

Thanks!
Best Regards,
Carlo
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Bobby McNulty
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
 

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
   

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
 

I'm not installing cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is
resolved.  One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.  Which
I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port
won't work,.  The KDE port won't work either.  Get Harold Hunt back
here to fix this.  The current maintainers have no idea what they are
doing.
   

Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look.
As I've said it was working for me until last week.  I've not received
any useful data which may help tracking this down.
Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good.  If not then stop
insulting me or do it better.
bye ago, enraged
 

Alex, I think the problem is with setup.  Because when setup gets to
the fontserver, where 4 people are complaining so far, it stalls on a
readme file.
   

It works fine for me.  Just tried it.
You've been reading the cygwin mailing list long enough to know that you
have not provided the slightest shred of useful data
Bobby, either provide useful information or just shut up.  Telling
everyone what you are going to do or not going to do and insulting
people is totally unproductive.
Do me a favor and don't even respond to this email.  Either provide some
details or just be quiet.  Useful details might be, for example, "ps -ef"
output.
cgf
 

OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file 
that it is hanging at.
Cygwin setup is at 97%
it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README

its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
>Alexander Gottwald wrote:
>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
>>>I'm not installing cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is
>>>resolved.  One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.  Which
>>>I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port
>>>won't work,.  The KDE port won't work either.  Get Harold Hunt back
>>>here to fix this.  The current maintainers have no idea what they are
>>>doing.
>>
>>Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look.
>>
>>As I've said it was working for me until last week.  I've not received
>>any useful data which may help tracking this down.
>>
>>Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good.  If not then stop
>>insulting me or do it better.
>>
>>bye ago, enraged
>
>Alex, I think the problem is with setup.  Because when setup gets to
>the fontserver, where 4 people are complaining so far, it stalls on a
>readme file.

It works fine for me.  Just tried it.

You've been reading the cygwin mailing list long enough to know that you
have not provided the slightest shred of useful data

Bobby, either provide useful information or just shut up.  Telling
everyone what you are going to do or not going to do and insulting
people is totally unproductive.

Do me a favor and don't even respond to this email.  Either provide some
details or just be quiet.  Useful details might be, for example, "ps -ef"
output.

cgf


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Bobby McNulty
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
 

I'm not installing  cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is resolved.
One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.
Which I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port 
won't work,.
The KDE port won't work either. Get Harold Hunt back here to fix this. 
The current maintainers have no idea what they are doing.
   

Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look. 

As I've said it was working for me until last week. I've not
received any useful data which may help tracking this down. 

Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good. If not then stop
insulting me or do it better.
bye
	ago, enraged
 

Alex, I think the problem is with setup.
Because when setup gets to the fontserver, where 4 people are 
complaining so far, it stalls on a readme file.
I'll try it again.
Wish me luck.
And I will take you up on your offer, once Cygwin is installed with 
xorg, to help you improve it.
Sorry for the insult, but under Harolld, he would have everything tested 
on different machines and configurations. I'm running Windows XP 
professional with Service Pack #2. Find out what the others are using.



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:

> I'm not installing  cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is resolved.
> One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.
> Which I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port 
> won't work,.
> The KDE port won't work either. Get Harold Hunt back here to fix this. 
> The current maintainers have no idea what they are doing.

Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look. 

As I've said it was working for me until last week. I've not
received any useful data which may help tracking this down. 

Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good. If not then stop
insulting me or do it better.

bye
ago, enraged
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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Bobby McNulty
Daniel Newhouse wrote:
--- Alexander Gottwald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
   

 

Did he also tell why? If the xorg packages are the
problem then 
it should be solved instead of avoided.

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I just wanted to add that I am having the exact same
installation packages.  For me, without the X11
packages cygwin is useless.

		
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I'm not installing  cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is resolved.
One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.
Which I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port 
won't work,.
The KDE port won't work either. Get Harold Hunt back here to fix this. 
The current maintainers have no idea what they are doing.
Bobby


Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Daniel Newhouse

--- Alexander Gottwald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> 

> 
> Did he also tell why? If the xorg packages are the
> problem then 
> it should be solved instead of avoided.
> 
> bye
>   ago
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I just wanted to add that I am having the exact same
installation packages.  For me, without the X11
packages cygwin is useless.




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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:

> Carlo Florendo wrote:
> Don't install Xorg. that is what Hanu told me.

Did he also tell why? If the xorg packages are the problem then 
it should be solved instead of avoided.

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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Bobby McNulty
Carlo Florendo wrote:
Hello Cygwin/XFree gurus,
I've installed cygwin on a WinXP SP2 machine and setup looped forever 
up to the point when it was post-installing the xorg applications.   I 
got 99% done.

This issue has been discussed last week only as started by these 2 
separate threads of messages:

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00214.html
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00253.html
However, the issue has not been resolved.
Then, I uninstalled everything and re-installed cygwin any *without* 
selecting anything from the X11 category.  All went well!

Then, I just thought of installing the X apps manually.
The front page of the cygwin/xfree website says that:
"Cygwin/X is installed via Cygwin's setup.exe and the installation 
process is documented in the Cygwin/X User's Guide. Whether or not you 
already have Cygwin installed, you can add Cygwin/X to your 
installation by downloading the latest setup.exe, running setup, and 
selecting the 'xorg-x11-base' package from the 'X11' category."

However, selecting only the xorg-x11-base package would install only:
  /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-6.8.1.0.README
  /etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.csh
  /etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.sh
Thus, it would probably be better to update the main page such that it 
wouldn't be misleading.  (Other users might think only xorg-X11-base 
should be installed since that is what the website says.)

The README file contains the needed package dependencies so once could 
follow from that.  However, not everyone reads the README.

You may want to add something like this after the paragraph quoted above:
"Once you have installed the 'xorg-x11-base' package, open your 
/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-.README
file and install (via setup) the package dependencies listed there."

In any case, any hints on why installing xorg fails?
Please include me on the cc since I do not subscribe to the 
cygwin/xfree list.  Thanks!

Thanks!
Best Regards,
Carlo
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Astra Philippines Inc.
www.astra.ph
Don't install Xorg. that is what Hanu told me.



Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only

2004-11-08 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Carlo Florendo wrote:

> The front page of the cygwin/xfree website says that:
> 
> "Cygwin/X is installed via Cygwin's setup.exe and the installation 
> process is documented in the Cygwin/X User's Guide. Whether or not you 
> already have Cygwin installed, you can add Cygwin/X to your installation 
> by downloading the latest setup.exe, running setup, and selecting the 
> 'xorg-x11-base' package from the 'X11' category."
> 
> However, selecting only the xorg-x11-base package would install only:

selecting the xorg-x11-base package would select all other required x11 
packages too and install them.

>/usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-6.8.1.0.README
>/etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.csh
>/etc/profile.d/00xorg-x11-base.sh
> 
> You may want to add something like this after the paragraph quoted above:
> 
> "Once you have installed the 'xorg-x11-base' package, open your 
> /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-base-.README
> file and install (via setup) the package dependencies listed there."

If selecting of dependencies is not working then it's a problem with the 
cygwin installer and should be reported to the cygwin mailing list. 

> In any case, any hints on why installing xorg fails?

I've not seen this before. All packages I've uploaded are tested including
a simple install test on a clean host. Everything was fine. 

The messages from the cygwin mailinglist indicate a problem with setup.exe
and not with the packages.

bye
ago
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