Bug#144067: Boot floppies

[David Kimdon]

Thanks for the notes Rolf.

FYI, boot-floppies is end-of-lifed now, so these fixes will never get
into cvs or into a Debian release.  All new development is on the new
debian-installer.  In any case I'm forwarding this to the BTS for the
record.


-David


On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:11:03AM +0100, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> Rolf Leggewie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >|  I just built new images (untested) that I believe fix this problem and
> >|  placed them on :
> >|
> >|  http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/3.0.24-pre/
> >|
> >|  The problem appears to only appear for people doing static (non-dhcp)
> >|  network configuration with pcmcia adapters.  Can you please test the
> >|  fix? If you report that the problem is fixed I will commit the change
> >|  and close Bug#156015
> 
> [...]
> 
> > While trying to troubleshoot my problem, I found a few other bugs which
> > were really just dupes of the above.  If you care to close them as well,
> > I think that a search on "/var/lib/misc/pcmcia-scheme no such file"
> > either on groups.google.com or in bugs.debian.org will certainly yield a
> > few others.  I had jotted their numbers down somewhere but for some
> > reason I cannot find them anymore.
> 
> I found those numbers, here they are: 156015, 67722, 144067.


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Re: brltty-udeb

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:23:40PM +0100 wrote:
> OK, Its done and in the archives.

great.

> 
> P.S.: To whom do I need to talk to, to get cvs access?

Your Debian account should allow you to access cvs.debian.org.

-David


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Re: Kernel Panic

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 11:48:19AM +0900 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Compaq Proliant ML 330 with an 18 GB SCSI hard-drive and another
> hot-plug able SCSI HDD of the same capacity.
> I want to install Debian Potato on this machine as in I would like to use it
> as a DNS, Mail, Proxy Server.

You probably want to use Woody, not Potato as Woody is the latest
stable release of Debian.  The installation has many bug fixes as well
(though I don't recall the problem you describe here.) 


> During boot up they system this error
> 
> 
> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
> 
> thus not allowing me to go further with the installation.

How are you booting?  From cdrom (I think so, since 01:00 looks to be
ram0)?  You could try booting from floppy.  I find it odd tha tyou are
getting this error though, it is as if the bootloader was unable to
load the ramdisk into memory?


-David


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Re: mklibs script problem...

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

Thanks for the report.

Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:06:20PM +0100 wrote:
> 2. The script wouldn't run properly on my system - the problem was
> basically it was looking for libc symbols in libcrypt I think (but this
> was some time ago, I've been without the internet for a few weeks). 
> This is due to the glob function in find_pic and find_pic_map having a
> wildcard in the glob.  I removed this and all was fine.  

> I didn't do a diff - 2 char's were changed.  I include the modified function for
? what not send a diff?  A diff really makes it easier for people to
see what is going on, something like:

$ diff -u file.orig file

would suffice.

> reference (glob.glob call).  I'm unfamiliar with python, but it seems
> simple enough, so I hope i've not misunderstood the code.

What was the wildcard in there doing before?  Was it trying to catch
something like libc6_pic.a ?  If so should we change it to a [0-9]*
match?

-David


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Re: Graphical installer

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:59:04AM -0400 wrote:
> Hi...I saw today that Debian is working on a new graphical installer,
> probably gtkfb based. How wedded are you to that? I'm a former Trolltech
> employee and one of the people who wrote Qt/Embedded; I might be interested
> in writing/helping to write a Qt/E-based installer, if there's sufficient
> interest in that.

Hi,

We aren't wedded to the toolkit at all, we'll be happy to have
multiple UIs and I personally think QT/E would look quite nice.
Everything in the UI goes through cdebconf (find it on cvs.debian.org
under debian-installer/tools/cdebconf).  That is where you want to
look to get started.

Thanks for the interest,

-David


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Re: help

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 07:53:16AM + wrote:
> i want to install debian ,but my notebook computer only has a pcmcia cdrom 
> and a floppy.can debian install on it?or does debian have a 
> pcmcia-supported boot floopy?thanks.

Hi,

Debian installs do support pcmcia.  You can boot off your floppy, install
drivers and kernel from floppy.  Once drivers are installed your
pcmcia cdrom should be configured, then you can use it to complete the
install.

David


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Re: 2.4.19 boot-floppies problem

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

try this:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.en.html#s-rescue-replace-kernel

-David

Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:54:32AM +0100 wrote:
> Could someone kindly lead me to where I might find documentation on how to use 
>boot-floppies to create a custom boot set of 2.4.19.
> 
> I've tried cvs, the included readme file and endless searches, but can't find 
>anything specific enough to help.
> 
> I've downloaded a 2.4.19 stock kernel and have the correctly edited .config file for 
>it to be compiled. I can't seem to find how to get boot-floppies to read  in the 
>correct .config file and thereby create the correct set.
> 
> Regards, David


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Re: I need help

[David Kimdon]

Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 12:26:43AM +0300 wrote:
> 
Hi,

I am redirecting this to debian-user where you will be able to get
better advice, but I will give it a shot:

> 
> Hello, I'm sorry to bother you but I need some expert advice. I had
> installed a couple of days ago the new debian os and since then i'm
> trying to install the x server. I've downloaded some nvidia drivers
> (by the way, I'm having problems with the nvdia kernel driver!) but
> none of them seem to work. One of them prints an error message like
> "can't locate ./linux/modversions.h". 

Install the kernel-headers- for the kernel you are running
and point the build at those headers (they will be somewhere like
/usr/src/kernel-headers-.

-David

> My video card is Tnt2 M64 with
> 32 MRam. If you can point some kind of driver or give me some sort
> of advice I would apreciate it. Thank you.
> 
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Re: Woody bf2.4 laptop network setup broken?

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

> Hi.  I'm trying to install Woody from the network on my laptop using
. . . 
> /var/log/messages contains after attempting to bring up eth0
. . . 

I just built new images (untested) that I believe fix this problem and
placed them on :

http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/3.0.24-pre/

The problem appears to only appear for people doing static (non-dhcp)
network configuration with pcmcia adapters.  Can you please test the
fix? If you report that the problem is fixed I will commit the change
and close Bug#156015 (the change I made is just what is proposed in
the bug report, FYI.)

Thanks for the report,

David


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Re: woody install problems

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 07:41:18PM -0500 wrote:
> I'm wondering why I've not received any responces. Am I on the right list?

it's the right list, I expect we just don't have any answers for you,
I'll give it a shot.

0. maybe a bad hard drive?  or at least buggy such that the linux
driver can't handle it but the Win2k driver has a work-around? 

1. try different kernel flavors, there are 4 for i386 (vanilla,
compact, idepci and bf2.4)  

2. examine boot messages looking for anything fishy.  From the
installation screen you should be able to create a file with a bunch
of log messages if you have a floppy drive, you could mail that file
ot this list.

3. if you have a floppy drive try booting off that with the cdrom
removed, in case the cdrom and harddrive are conflicting.

-David


> 
> Gary Seven wrote:
> 
> > I'm having a really tough time installing woody on a tyan tiger mp or 
> >mpx. No matter what what I do the install either:
> >- detects no hard drives at all
> >- finds the drives, but hangs during file system initialization
> >- gets to the point of writing files onto the file system, then hangs
> >part way thru.
> >
> >Oddly enough, I've had this same mother board, drives, drive 
> >controllers, etc running RH7.1; but now, neither RH7.3 or woody will 
> >install on the system (can't find the rh7.1 discs to re-try it).
> >
> >Win2K installs and runs just fine. Which sorta indicates that the 
> >hardware is fine.
> >
> >I've also tried different drive controllers. The system was originally 
> >running with two cd writers on the MB's primary and secondary ide 
> >channels and the drives on a 3ware ide raid card. However, I suspect 
> >that the file system performance was really poor and I want something 
> >to compare to; so I wanted to remove the ide raid card and test the 
> >file system with the one hard drive and cd writer on the MB's ide.
> >
> >For the installs with the pci ide cards I did use bf2.4.
> >
> >I've even changed MB's. The orginal MB was a tyan tiger MP purcahsed a 
> >year ago, second was a tiger MPX purchased recently. Am using DDR ECC 
> >memory.
> >
> >I've tried installing RH7.3 and woody under the following conditions, 
> >and both fail at one of the previously mentioned points:
> >- hard drive on MB's primary ide, cd writer on MB's secondary ide
> >- hard drives on promside pci ide controller (no raid)
> >- hard drives on 3ware pci ide raid card, configured JBOD
> >cd writes on MB's primary and secondary ide
> >
> >I've searched the mailing list archives high and low looking for 
> >problems that matched mine; but the only thing I've found was a post 
> >saying to use bf2.4 and one pointing to some other files to use:
> >
> >Peter, Try this one
> >http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies/cvs/boot-bf2.4-with-basedebs.iso 
> > 
> >
> >This works for me on every think I have tried it in.
> >
> >Can't figure out what to do with this one: doesn't boot and neither do 
> >any of the images on it.
> >
> >Wont work with this crap without additional modules. See
> >http://www.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ 
> >.
> >
> >This didn't help either; but it doesn't seem like I should need it if 
> >the hard drive is just on the MB's ide.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: LILO fails

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

> I half-remember having read sometime that the letters in LILO printed at start-up 
>show up after
> certain stages have been completed, but can?t seem to find it again.
> 

I pulled out hunks of the lilo manual for you.  It looks like you need to tweak
/etc/lilo.conf as described below and re-run.  You can boot off the install CD,
mount the already initialized filesystem, then execute a shell and 'chroot
/target'.  Then you can edit /etc/lilo.conf and hopefully get something that
works.

from /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz :

  . . .

LILO start message
- - - - - - - - -

When LILO loads itself, it displays the word "LILO". Each letter is printed
before or after performing some specific action. If LILO fails at some
point, the letters printed so far can be used to identify the problem. This
is described in more detail in the technical overview.

Note that some hex digits may be inserted after the first "L" if a
transient disk problem occurs. Unless LILO stops at that point, generating
an endless stream of error codes, such hex digits do not indicate a severe
problem.

   . . . 

   L  ...   The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started,
but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error
codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section "Disk error
codes".) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry
mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section "Disk geometry").

   . . . 

If the BIOS signals an error when LILO is trying to load a boot image, the
respective error code is displayed. The following BIOS error codes are
known: 

   0x07   "Invalid initialization". The BIOS failed to properly initialize
the disk controller. You should control the BIOS setup parameters. A
warm boot might help too.


   . . .  (scrolling back to section Disk geometry)

Disk geometry
-

For floppies and most hard disks, LILO can obtain the disk geometry
information from the kernel. Unfortunately, there are some exotic disks or
adapters which may either not supply this information or which may even 
return incorrect information.

If no geometry information is available, LILO reports either the error
  geo_query_dev HDIO_GETGEO (dev 0x)  
 or 
  Device 0x: Got bad geometry // 

If incorrect information is returned, booting may fail in several ways, 
typically with a partial "LILO" banner message. In this document, that is
called a "geometry mismatch".

The next step should be to attempt setting the LBA32 or LINEAR 
configuration variable or the  -L  or  -l  command-line option. If this
doesn't help, the entire disk geometry has to be specified explicitly. Note
that LINEAR doesn't always work with floppy disks.

Another common use of disk sections is if an (E)IDE and a SCSI drive are
used in the same system and the BIOS is configured to use the SCSI drive as
the first drive. (Normally, the (E)IDE drive would be the first drive and
the SCSI drive would be the second one.) Since LILO doesn't know how the
BIOS is configured, it needs to be told explicitly about this arrangement.
(See the second example below.)


Obtaining the geometry
- - - - - - - - - - -

The disk geometry parameters can be obtained by booting MS-DOS and running
the program DPARAM.COM with the hexadecimal BIOS code of the drive as its
argument, e.g. dparam 0x80 for the first hard disk. It displays the number
of sectors per track, the number of heads per cylinder and the number of
cylinders. All three numbers are one-based.

Alternatively, the geometry may also be determined by reading the
information presented by the "setup" section of the ROM-BIOS or by using
certain disk utilities under operating systems accessing the disk through
the BIOS.


Specifying the geometry
- - - - - - - - - - - -

Disk geometry parameters are specified in the options section of the
configuration file. Each disk parameter section begins with
DISK=, similar to the way how boot images are specified. It is
suggested to group disk parameter sections together, preferably at the
beginning or the end of the options section.

For each disk, the following variables can be specified:

  BIOS=  Is the number the BIOS uses to refer to that
device. Normally, it's  0x80  for the first hard disk and  0x81  for
the second hard disk. Note that hexadecimal numbers have to begin with
"0x". If BIOS is omitted, LILO tries to "guess" that number.
  SECTORS=  and
  HEADS=  specify the number of sectors per track and the number of
heads, i.e. the number of tracks per cylinder. Both parameters have to
be either specified together or they have to be entirely omitted. If
omitted, LILO tries to obtain that geometry information from the
kernel.
  CYLINDERS=  Specifies the number of cylinders. This value is
only used for sanity checks. If CYLINDERS is omitted, LILO uses the
information obtained from the kernel if geometry information had to be
requested in order 

Bug#162429: modconf: No user interface for modconf

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I can't reproduce this.  Can you please change the first line of
/usr/sbin/modconf to:

#!/bin/sh -x

(that is, add a -x so we can see where it is failing). And mail the
output to this list. Something like:

# modconf > modconf.log 2>&1

Thanks,


-David


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Re: usb mouse

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:36:30AM +0200 wrote:
> hello!!,
> 
> I have installated debian 3.0, but the mouse does not work. It uses usb. How can 
>I configurate it?
>
Hi,

This question is better suited to debian-user, cc'ing.  Here is a
pretty good guide:
http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/c122.html

at least gives you a few things to try.  The above link indicates that
you may have better luck with a 2.4 kernel, if you installed the
default Debian kernel you have 2.2.

-David


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Re: New boot-floppies for 3.0r1?

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I'm in favor of doing a new boot-floppies release, hopefully we can
get it tested for 3.0.r1, seconds? Looking through the changelog it
looks like we have mostly doc fixes so I'm less worried about
significant breakage.

Remaining issues (maybe, please comment, please add your own) :

 - update modconf
   (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200208/msg00475.html)
   I'll do an upload in the near future.

 - #152152: boot-floppies: bf2.4 kernel may need an (security) update
   It looks like the solution to this may be to update to 2.4.19 from
   2.4.18 (see #146349 : kernel-image-2.4.18-*: Linux Netfilter
   NAT/ICMP code information leak).  What do you think Eduard?


-David

Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 03:07:28PM +0200 wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I've found several S/390-related problems in boot-floppies and will
> commit fixes for them in the next few days. Are we going to build
> new boot-floppies (3.0.24) for the Debian 3.0r1 point release?
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan Gybas
> 
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Re: Debian Testing Installation

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:58:53PM -0400 wrote:
> Hello.  I have been running Debian Potato and I am installing a new
> system and would like to install the Testing distribution over a
> network. 
Hi,

If you are upgrading from potato you probably want to use woody, which
is the ne wstable distribution.  If you want to run testing (sarge)
then you should install stable (woody) and then use apt to upgrade.


> I am used to downloading the boot floppies however the
> directories (disks-1.44) does not exist anymore in the dists/testing
> path.  I have read some information about debian-installer but I am
> confused.  Is this the new way of installing debian? 
it will be, but it is not yet complete.

> If so where can I
> download it?  What do I need?  Someone help?
> 
http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/

> Thank you for your time and patience.
>  
> Ciao
>  
> Roberto


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Re: [d-i] libd-i building

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:24:17PM +0200 wrote:
> I'm just curious, why is libd-i built as it is, every function in a
> separate .o?

The logic is that it allows us to provide a shared reduced version of
libd-i, or to statically link only the objects we need.

> 
> I will probably move some package file parsing into libd-i and I want to
> know how to do this. Still one file per function I add, or one file for
> all the package-related functions? Should I start a new .c file for
> this?

If it looks like a separate .c  files make sense, do that, it is up to
you.

-David


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Re: [d-i] Updating CVS changelogs

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:27:28PM -0300 wrote:
> * ddetect
> * lilo-installer
> * grub-installer
> 
> Should I add the initial changelog entry and mention something like
> "NOT RELEASED YET" ? Could someone do it as I'm not yet a Debian
> developer ?
I just did this.

In general, in the future you can feel free to do it and put the name
of the maintainer of the source package in the changlog.  If the soure
maintainer doesn't like the way you did it they can always fix it.
Sometimes it isn't easy to tell if that version has been released (you
can look for a tag, or look for a package sitting in incomming or on
the mirrors).

-David


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Re: boot and root disk assembly

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:58:43AM -0300 wrote:
> Hi all, I'd like to make my own boot and root disks.
> AFAIK, I can use mkrescue to make my boot disk using the working kernel.
> When I boot with this disk, after the kernel is loaded, it asks for a
> root disk. 
> 
> how do I make one ?
> I'd like to put some utilities to check reiser filesystems and other
> stuff !

Basically you need some entries in /dev/, some initialization scripts
or other logic, and then any libraries/programs you want.  There is a
pretty good overview here:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/

-David


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Re: shell not working

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:15:56PM -0700 wrote:
> Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> 
> >| and the postinst process?
> >
> >It won't work in make demo, but it works from a floppy.
> > 
> >
> 
> I was trying it from a floppy, and it didn't work.

FWIW it works from 'make demo' for me, I haven't tested the floppy.

-David


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Re: Boot floppy install issue

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:49:44AM -0700 wrote:
> Ok, i've tried two differnet Hard Drives and 5 floppies and still getting 
> the same errors, maybe i'm not using the correct image?
> what would be the best image for the IBMthinkpad 755c with no CDRom, well 
> i do have a backpack CDrom, but could never figure out how to use it to 
> install linux. I do have a pcmcia nic and a T1 ehternet network with 
> internet access.
> 
> So what do you think is my best chances for success??
off the top of my head:

- maybe try a different rawrite, or else 'dd' on a unix system to create
a not broken floppy.  (However, it may be the floppy drive that has
the problem rather than the floppy.)  

-You might try the bf2.4 kernel flavor as the floppy driver might
handle a flaky drive better.

-Once debian-installer is ready for prime time it will likely solve
this problem since it uses an initrd included in the initial rescue
disk.

-figure out how to boot off a cdrom, maybe look in the BIOS to enable
boot from the cdrom.

-David


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Re: Boot floppy install issue

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:41:36PM -0700 wrote:
> Ok, 
>so i booted on the rescue disk, and hit enter at the "boot:"
>  it starts loading linux.bin, then uncompresses.
> 
> i then get the message:
> 
> VFS: insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press enter
> 
> i insert the root floppy i created using ntrawrite and the root.bin and
> i get the following error:
> 
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0
> VFS: Insert root floppy and press Enter
> 
> i press enter and get
> 
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0
> VFS: cannot open root device "fd0" or 02:00
> please append a correct "root=" boot option
> kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root fs on 02:00
> 

looks like a bad floppy (either the disk [most likely] or the drive).
Find a different floppy.  Sometimes you can tell the floppy is bad
because you hear an extra grating sound when writing to it via
rawrite/dd.

-David


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Re: Boot floppy install issue

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 08:44:38AM -0700 wrote:
> Hello,
>I have an IBM Thinkpad 755c with no CDRom, but i do have a pcmcia nic. 
> I am trying to 
> do the floppy install from the internet. I down loaded the files,

> introduction screen with "boot:" at the bottom. At this prompt i typed 
> "rescue root=/dev/hda1"

If you are trying to install you shouldn't use the rescue boot
argument, nor should you specify the root device.

The rescue,root combination above will work if you already have a
linux system installed on /dev/hda1 and want to boot into it to repair
something.

> and hit enter. the laptop begins to boot up and lots of type gos by then 
> it stops with this error:
> 
> 
> VFS: Mounted root (vfat filesystem) readonly. 
> freeing unused kernel memory:280k freed 
> warning: unable to open an initial console. 
> kernel panic: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel" 

This is what it looks like if Linux gets random data and tries to
interpret it as a root filesystem. 

In short, just hit enter at the boot: prompt and insert root.bin when
prompted.


-David


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Bug#158426: DHCP support is broken on compact rescue disk

[David Kimdon]

severity 158426 important
quit

Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:03:01AM -0400 wrote:
> Package: boot-floppies
> Tags: woody
> 
> It appears that the kernel for the woody compact rescue disk does not
> have CONFIG_PACKET or CONFIG_FILTER included.  This is sad, because

Something else must be going on, IMO.

The kernel configuration is correct:
$ wget -q
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/compact/kernel-config
$ grep "CONFIG_PACKET" kernel-config ; grep CONFIG_FILTER
kernel-config
CONFIG_PACKET=m
CONFIG_FILTER=y
$

The module is present:
$ wget -q
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/compact/root.bin
-O - | zcat > root
$ sudo mount -o loop root /mnt/
$ find /mnt/ | grep af_packet
/mnt/lib/modules/misc/af_packet.o
$ 

And should be loaded when the system boots:
$ grep af_packet /mnt/etc/init.d/rcS 
insmod /lib/modules/af_packet.o >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo af_packet >>/etc/modules
insmod /lib/modules/misc/af_packet.o >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo af_packet >>/etc/modules
$

What is going on here?


> although this kernel has built-in ethernet drivers, dhclient-2.2.x does
> not work.  As well, it appears that dhclient wants /var/lib/dhcp/ which
> also does not exist. (Although I am not sure if it will gracefully fail
> in this case.)

Error message?  Can you do a :
$ cat /proc/modules

to verify that the module is not loaded.  Can you run dhclient
manually?

Thanks,

David


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Re: pcmcia-scheme - solved

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:59:00AM -0700 wrote:
> Janne,
> 
> This work-around did the trick.  I really appreciate your input.  Thanks you so
> much! Woody is up and running on my Dell Inspiron 8000.  Quite a relief after
> my unsuccessful conversion from progeny debian and subsequent problems
> installing Woody from scratch.

I'm glad to hear that.

> 
> David,
> 
> Is it fair to say this is a bug that should submitted at the debian site? 
> Atleast two of us have had this problem.
>

Yes, please file a bug (IMO if in doubt a bug should be filed).  I'm
going to go out on a limb and say the probablem is probably with all
statically configured pcmcia installs.  I have personally done many
dhcp pcmcia install so I know that works.  It doesn't sound like the
3c589 is at the root of the problem.  Anyone care to confirm?

-David



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Bug#158422: [fw: suggestions for ch1, Woody Install x86]

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Severity: wishlist

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Hello,

I have made some suggestions for the 1st chapter of the Woody x86 install
doc.  I did not get all the way through, before I got overwhelmed, and
already had the product installed.  My suggestions are presented here in the
order that they would appear in the document.  Although, I understand that
the translations are excellent, I have used some energy to try and consider
people that are not native English speakers in my word choose.

Also, could you please contact the appropriate ppl to have
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/
to identify the architecture near the top of the page.


Enjoy,
Lloyd D Budd


**title:

> Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86
Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 for Personal Computers (x86)


**Abstract:

> This document contains installation instructions for the
> Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 system, for the Intel x86 ("i386") architecture.
> It also contains pointers to more information and information on
> how to make the most of your new Debian system.
This document is intented for people new to installing the Debian GNU/Linux
Operating System. It covers Debian GNU/Linux version 3.0 on Personal
Computers compatable with the Intel x86 architecture.  The modular
organization of this document makes it useful to users of all experience
level.
Throughout this document we identify additional resources.  Near the end of
this document we assist you with next steps as a Debian user.
# or change next steps, and ch 9 title to "first activites"

The most recent revision of this document can be found at
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There you can also find this document translated into a large number of
languages.  If you are looking for Debian installation instructions for
another platform please see
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual .



> The procedures in this document are not to be used for users upgrading
> existing systems; if you are upgrading, see the Release Notes for Debian
> version 3.0 for personal computers
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/release-notes/).

This document does not cover upgrading existing systems; if you are
upgrading,
see the Release Notes for Debian version 3.0 on Personal Computers
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Re: modconf information lines

[David Kimdon]

Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:16:45PM -0700 wrote:
> "modconf" is neat but many entries come without explanation.
> 
> As I run "modinfo" on module, I quickly lean these modules comes without
> description.
> 
> tcic  - (No description available) 
> xircom_cb - (No description available)   
> yenta_socket  - (No description available)
>
some discussion of thisissue is here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=66578&repeatmerged=yes

> Is there any way to supply backup data to this nice menu program.
> User experience of initial boot shall improve this way.

IIRC that is what the files in modconf/templates/ do.

-David


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Re: I need a little help here...

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:17:51PM -0700 wrote:
> On this site (http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/),
> which ISOs do I need to get to install Woody?

You have a choice, please see:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-kernel-choice

Thanks for the question, I noticed that my link to the installation
manual hadn't been updated to reflect testing->stable, that is fixed
now.

-David


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Re: cvs commit to mklibs by dwhedon

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 12:12:46AM -0600 wrote:
> On Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 07:39:09PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote:
> > Repository: mklibs
> > who:dwhedon
> > time:   Thu Aug  8 19:39:09 PDT 2002
> > Log Message:
> >   +  * Ensure that the dynamic linker is installed along with the small
> >   +libs.  In the case of glibc, libc.so has calls into ld-linux.so
> >   +(glibc dynamic linker) so mklibs will always install ld-linux.so
> >   +when it resolves external references.  However, uClibc's libc
> >   +doesn't call it's dynamic linker (ld-uClibc.so).  In that case
> >   +we have to copy it in manually.
> 
> Our of curiosity, which version of uClibc are you working with?

0.9.12, IIRC

> uClibc does cause apps to link vs the dynamic linker these days.
> Are you using the 6 month old stuff from Woody?

hmm, I wonder if I missed something.  0.9.12 isn't 6 months old, more
like 2.

-David


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Re: Design information on D-I compared to dbootstrap ? and more.

[David Kimdon]

> As It now seems I will be using boot-floppies for 
> a while on, I'm curious to know a bit more of other 
> peoples earlier concerns with this installation 
> method.

>From a user's perspective boot-floppies offers a lot of options, this
is good and bad.  People with obscure hardware are pleased that they
can preload modules from a floppy to access their hard drive, but 99%
of users won't ever use that option, for example.  We do have a
verbose and a non-verbose mode that helps with some of this, though we
err on the side of caution (that is, asking questions if we can't be
completely sure we can guess the correct answer).  It has been said
that a chicken can install boot-floppies if you put a piece of corn on
the return key.  This is mostly true.  boot-floppies asks a lot of
questions but the default answer is for the most part what users
should choose.

>From a developer's point of view boot-floppies is large and has a fair
number of ugly files (choose_medium.c is perhaps the best example,
IMO).  The build system is complicated and uses a lot of different
languages, though nothing obscure.  The build takes a long time to
complete (20 minutes or so on a 2-year old i386, many hours on m68k).

> 
> Is there some gathered collection of intallaton 
> difficulties or design complaints over the years ?
> Where?
You can take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/boot-floppies
especally in the wishlist section.  

> 
> I would also like to see if there is any possibility 
> of me doing some smaller hacking into the old boot 
> floppies package to do some smaller workaround fixes.

sure.  No big changes or new features will likely be accepted into cvs
but bug fixes are encouraged.  If you have new features that are
obviously correct, tested and won't break anything they might be
accepted as well.  If you need to make bigger changes you can fork
development and keep your own tree.


> What language was woodys debootstrap developed in?
debootstrap is a shell script, it is used by both debian-installer and
boot-floppies to install the base system once a harddrive is
partitioned.

dbootstrap is the boot-floppies install program.  It is in C.

> 
> Are the debian bootfloppies still maintained ?
maintained but not with vigor.  The installer in Debian has typically
been a stumbling block, not gotten perhaps as much attention as it
deserves.  We're hoping that debian-installer will be more fun to work
on.  With limited resources we'd like most people to concentrate on
debian-installer.

> by whome ?

The people on this list for the most part.

-David


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Re: [d-i] Problems encountered while trying to build modules

[David Kimdon]

Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 10:31:47PM -0300 wrote:
> 2) partkit module :
> 
> partkit failed to build and generated errors while being compiled as
> follow :

partkit hasn't been touched in a while (since  2001/01/26).  I expect
libparted has changed since partit was last compiled.  It is entirely
possible that we don't want to use partkit (it isn't complete anyway)
and perhaps should remove it from cvs.

-David


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Re: Woody directly to ATA/100 drives?

[David Kimdon]

Hi all,

Let's keep our interaction with users civil and give them the respect
they deserve.  We are fortunate to get people here with lots of
different backgrounds.  Some people are Debian install guru's and
others aren't.  That's the way it should be.

Please don't feel like I am chastising you, Eduard.  Your work on
boot-floppies is greatly appreciated and we'd be lost without you. 

Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 02:31:48PM +0200 wrote:
> #include 
> Jamie Wood wrote on Sun Aug 04, 2002 um 11:27:48AM:
> 
> > Basically will the debian installation for woody pick up this drive (hde)
> > automatically and allow me to install to it without any cable switching
> > etc.?
> 
> Why do not you just RTFM and use the bf2.4 disks?
> 
> > Dr. A.J.Wood
> > Department of Theoretical Physics
> 
> I wonder about mentality of some academics...

This sort of comment isn't helping anyone.  It can only create
friction between us and a potential user.

Thanks,

-David


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Bug#155267: default login with no password possible

[David Kimdon]

> A recent security audit turned up the ability to login on a fresh
> install with the accounts bin, daemon, and games from a telnet session
> with out a password.

I just did a fresh woody install (idepci, serial console FWIW) and
installed telnetd.  I cannot reproduce this problem:

Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 meow
meow login: daemon
Password: 
Login incorrect


> A fix seemed to be making sure that the password in /etc/passwd (or
> /etc/shadow if configured) is set to "!" instead of "*".  Another issue
> might have been the existence of "nullok" in /etc/pam.d/login (and other
> files).

Were you able to login without a pasword after you had set the root
password?  IIRC before setting the root password one can log in as
root without a password.

> I've not been able to reproduce this on the only other Debian system I
> have access to, however, it is still Debian 2.2.
> 
>  
> 
> I am using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, kernel 2.4.18-686 and libc-2.2.5


If you can provide any more information so that we can reproduce this
problem it would be helpful.

Thanks,

-David


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Bug#153283: mklibs: python portability fix?

[David Kimdon]

Package: mklibs
Version: 0.1.2
Severity: minor
Tags: patch


I have a report of the += syntax not working on Redhat 7.2, erroring
like this:

File "scripts/mklibs", line 225
debuglevel += 1
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

The included patch fixes the problem, I don't know what python version
was failing, whatever came with redhat 7.2 (not my machine and that
particular version doesn't support -V).

-David


Index: mklibs.py
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/mklibs/mklibs.py,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1
diff -u -b -B -w -p -u -r1.1.1.1 mklibs.py
--- mklibs.py   2002/06/11 19:58:46 1.1.1.1
+++ mklibs.py   2002/07/17 14:49:50
@@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ script_pattern = re.compile("^#!\s*/")
 for opt, arg in optlist:
 if opt in ("-v", "--verbose"):
 if debuglevel < DEBUG_SPAM:
-debuglevel += 1
+debuglevel = debuglevel + 1
 elif opt == "-L":
 lib_path = string.split(arg, ":")
 elif opt in ("-d", "--dest-dir"):
 
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #31 Fri May 31 09:20:28 PDT 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages mklibs depends on:
ii  python2.1.3-3An interactive object-oriented scr

-- no debconf information



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Bug#153282: mklibs: Don't impose constraints on what my cross tools are called

[David Kimdon]

Package: mklibs
Version: 0.1.2
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

At present when using mklibs in a cross build setup my tools need to be
called something like /path/to/tool/bin/prefix-gcc.  Sometimes the tools I
want to use are /path/to/tool/bin/gcc.  mklibs shouldn't force me to
have a '-' in the tool name.  The included patch fixes it.

BTW, it might make more sense to have this option --prefix rather than
--target, though this is a minor issue.

-David


Index: mklibs.py
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/mklibs/mklibs.py,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1
diff -u -b -B -w -p -u -r1.1.1.1 mklibs.py
--- mklibs.py   2002/06/11 19:58:46 1.1.1.1
+++ mklibs.py   2002/07/17 14:36:26
@@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ for opt, arg in optlist:
 elif opt == "--libc-extras-dir":
 libc_extras_dir = arg
 elif opt == "--target":
-target = arg + "-"
+target = arg
 else:
 print "WARNING: unknown option: " + opt + "\targ: " + arg
 


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #31 Fri May 31 09:20:28 PDT 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages mklibs depends on:
ii  python2.1.3-3An interactive object-oriented scr

-- no debconf information



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Re: Boot Error

[David Kimdon]

Hi,


What version of boot-floppies?  What arch?  What kernel flavor?  We
need the exact version for the panic to be meaningful.


Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 09:59:37AM +0200 wrote:
> Hi,
> Im getting this error ever time I boot
> 
> Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 030 current 
>-> tss.cr3 = 001, %cr3 = 00101000
> *pde = 
> Oops:0002
> CPU : 0
> EIP: 0010:[]
> EFLAGS: 00010292

If you can easily get this on a serial line then you can easily get
the whole panic, including any previous boot messages.

Is this bad RAM?  Do you have any hardware (ISA/PCI boards) that you
can remove, perhaps a bad driver or bad hardware iscausing this.

-David


> "it carrys on for a while" then says
> Kernel Panic : Attempted to kill the idle task
> In swapper task - not syncing 
> 
> Any Help will be appreciated, (ps) this happens with everything mandrake, 
>redhat,slackware,debian, and fbsd
> 


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Re: hungarian translation isn't included on i386 bootfloppies

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:34:26AM +0200 wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I uploaded new dbootstrap and f keys hungarian translation to the cvs,
> but the hu language isn't included here:
> ifeq ($(architecture),i386)
> export langs_root := en pt de fr ja es
> else

That line is the line for translations on the floppy disks, only a few
can fit.  There has been much discussion as to the languages that
should be there.  Is there really room for one more?

Above that is:

langs   := C ca cs da de eo es fi fr gl hr hu it ja ko pl pt ru sk sv tr zh_TW

This is all the languages that will be available on the CD.  There are
no space problems on the CD.  If looks like hu is already there.

-David


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Re: problems with mklibs.sh

[David Kimdon]

Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 06:41:42PM -0700 wrote:
> when i run mklibs.sh it seems to make the smaller libraries 
> but when i boot the disk and run any of the 
> binaries i get this error:
AFAIK mklibs.sh is now unmaintained, new applications should use the
python version that can be found here:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/mklibs.html

> 
> i do not have debian but i am using slackware, i recompiled 
> glibc to get libc_pic.a file and i copied libc.map to libc_pic.map 
> (i hope this is correct)

Making mklibs more portable is a good goal.  Depending on what you are
trying to do, however, it may be easier for you to install debian,
perhaps even simply create a Debian chroot
(http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/debootstrap.html).

-David


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Re: installation of via-rhine doesnt work

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

IIRC those images have a choice of kernel at boot.  Which kernel did
you choose?  If the bf2.4 kernel fails to work with your via-rhine
dirver (it is 2.4.18) we should report this as a bug against that
kernel image.

-David

Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:27:13PM + wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've burned and tested the iso image from : 
> http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/
> 
> All the installation process was fine (i had serious problems with the 
> potato one) except for the via-rhine driver, when the install tried to 
> insmod it, it failed.
> 
> My network cards are DFI-530TX and they work fine with this driver on a 
> redhat 7.2 kernel 2.4.18. No more error message, everything was right 
> except it,
> 
> Hope it will help,
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> _
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> 
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Re: help creating a special set of boot floppies

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 04:34:37PM -0500 wrote:
> Hi.  I am a blind person who uses Debian.  I access the system with a hardware 
>device for
> speech output and a set of kernel patches called speakup to read the screen.  I am 
>trying
> to use the 2.4.18-bf2.4 version of the kernel.  Of course,
> when I patch the kernel, it becomes to big for the floppy disk.  I have moved enough 
>things
> to modules to make room, but now I have a problem creating driver disks.
> 
> I can build the kernel using the kernel-package, but can't figure out how to create 
>the
> pcmcia modules package to match my kernel.
> Would someone please tell me where to find documentation on creating a pcmcia modules
> package?

I believe the standard way to to use kernel package with a target of
modules_image.  For example, on my system when I got to build a kernel
I do:

# cd /usr/src/linux
# make-kpkg kernel_image modules_image

If pcmcia-source is installed and /usr/src/pcmcia-cs.tar.gz is
extracted (it extracts to /usr/src/modules/) then kernel-package will
find it and build the modules .deb.


> 
> I have the source for boot-floppies-3.0.23so I can build the official boot floppies.
> If I understand what is happening, I need my special kernel package, and the pcmcia 
>modules
> package to match it.
> Then, I would add my special package as a new flavor of kernel.
> 

That is one way to do it.  Perhaps a simpler way to do it is to just
replace the kernel on the rescue disk:

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.en.html#s-rescue-replace-kernel

You won't have working modules disks that way but you should still be
able to complete the install.

-David

> Is this all I need to do to create my special version of boot-floppies?  If not, 
>what other
> packages or modifications to the boot-floppies scripts will I need to do?
> 
> Thanks in advance for help.
>   Kenny
> 
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Re: After base install, which packages should I add?

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:10:33PM -0700 wrote:
> Hello,
> I just installed the potato base and I'm not sure which packages I 
> should start adding in order to have a "full featured" system. I know I 
> want X,gcc,emacs, etc. but I'm not sure what else.
debian-boot is for discussion and problems with installing the base
system.  I'm forwarding this to debian-user, a list that can better
help with this sort of question.

Try installing some of the task-* packages :
dwhedon@klecker:~$ apt-cache search task-
task-c++-dev - Development in C++
task-c-dev - Development in C
task-chinese-s - Simplified Chinese environment
task-chinese-t - Traditional Chinese environment
task-database-pg - PostgreSQL database
task-debian-devel - Debian package development
task-debug - Debugging of C, C++, Objective C and friends
 . . . . 

Then apt-get install the tasks you want.

-David


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Bug#149698: Dell 2650 & Debian boot

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:00:00PM +0200 wrote:
> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 3.0.23-2002-05-21
> 
> 
> flavor:3.0.23-2002-05-21
by flavor we mean the kernel flavor, vanilla, idepci, bf2.4 or
compact, which one doesn't work?  Have you tried the bf2.4 flavor?

> architecture:  i686
> model: Dell PowerEdge 2650 Xeon Bi-Pro
> memory:1 Go
> scsi:  Dell PERC 3/DC (Megaraid), RAID 1
> cd-rom:IDE CD-ROM
> network card:  Ether+100
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I tried to install Debian on the new PowerEdge 2650 from Dell. The boot stop
> just after the sym53c416.c driver. Hard is frozen. I need to remove power
> cord.
> 
> I tried with 2.2r6, rescue disks from disks 3.0.23 and last burn of the
> Woody CD-ROM. I've got the same problem each time.
> 
> I've build a Kernel-2.4.18 rescue disk without sym53c416 and the server
> boot. The same disk with kernel-2.2.20 stop at the Megaraid driver and crash
> (timeout).
> 
> Unfortunaly, my custom rescue disk do not work well with the rest of the
> install process. I've a loop with Configure device Driver Module.
> 
>

-David



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Re: BiDi and RTL

[David Kimdon]

I'm cc'ing debian-boot.

Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:29:31AM +0430 wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 11 June 2002 17:51, David Kimdon wrote:
> 
> > Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:20:35PM - wrote:
> > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The current fribidi library is about 64kb.  I guess the next
> > > > version with arabic shaping will be something about 75kb.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the data point!
> > > I'm not sure what this means for d-i though. Tolleg?
> >
> > It isn't too big, if that is what you are asking.
> >
> > For reference we'd like to be able to support installation of a 1.4Mb
> > floppy.  Such a floppy fills up pretty fast, but we also will support
> > CD installs.  With a CD you have lots mor espace.
> 
> Would there be "enough space" to fit in a concept for Bidi and RTL?
> 
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.  I don't believe space
will be an important issue, 65-75 k isn't a whole lot when we are
talking about making the installer available to more people.  The most
important part will be finding people with the skills and desire to
make it happen (like yourself perhaps?).

-David


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Re: BiDi and RTL

[David Kimdon]

Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:20:35PM - wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The current fribidi library is about 64kb.  I guess the next 
> > version with arabic shaping will be something about 75kb.
> 
> Thanks a lot for the data point!
> I'm not sure what this means for d-i though. Tolleg?
It isn't too big, if that is what you are asking.

For reference we'd like to be able to support installation of a 1.4Mb
floppy.  Such a floppy fills up pretty fast, but we also will support
CD installs.  With a CD you have lots mor espace.

-David


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Re: Bug#149281: Module selection "many different filesystems" broken

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:59:39PM -0700 wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 06:51:35PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > In the module installation submenu, the line item "drivers that 
> > > allow many different filesystems" returns a codepage selection menu 
> > > instead.  Shux, I wanted to be able to read files from an MSDOS 
> > 
> > Well, what is the problem? You enter the filesystems menu, there is nfs,
> > ntfs and minix among helper modules to use different charsets correctly.
> > 
> > > FAT-16 partition on this system.  At least that was what I thought 
> > > this was going to offer (amongst other filesystem options).
> > 
> > Why do you not just MOUNT the filesystem? AFAIK, the driver is already
> > built-in into the kernel and does not have to be loaded manually.
> 
> This kind of thing keeps coming up. How would I go about documenting
> what's already 'in there' for people? I know we have the dialog that
> says stuff might already be in there, but I mean producing a list of
> what people are used to seeing as modules which are built-in for each
> kernel we supply. Can I get this by grepping config files?

perhaps we should just include a note telling people to look in the
config files, they are available in th same dir as the disk images.
We could also hint what CONFIG_FOO=y|m means.  As a bonus that will
help people know if their ethernet driver, etc. is included.

-David


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Re: during boot, penguin's colors go wacko

[David Kimdon]

Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 03:35:20AM +0800 wrote:
> Booting woody, after the computer boots a bitmapped penguin appears
> above the "dmesg" messages.  But halfway through those messages the
> penguin's colors "go wacko".  Maybe this is on purpose, an art
> effect.  

I think it is a bug, a kernel bug.  I've looked into it myself and not
found a solution.  I don't know if it has a home in the BTS yet.

> Do others see this?

yup, not all the time though.

-David


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Re: Old rescue.bin i386 w/2.2.18pre21???

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 07:05:05AM -0500 wrote:
> I have an old stable box that seems to have a whacked bios and will not
> boot from hdd after a power failure ... it's built with an old 2.2
> version that used 2.2.18pre21 as the kernel.  I don't seem to have
> rescue.bin for that version laying around ... yes I know i should, and
> know where it is, but I don't.
> 
> It will boot with a rescue disk but obviously I get lots of module
> errors and the best I can say is it'll boot, not really run.  So I'd
> like to find the correct rescue.bin version.
> 
> Anyone have one? ... Is there an archive of old versions (that google
> can't find:))?
> 
> This is an *old* box with no CD drive (or easy way to put one in, so
> lnx-bbc or other full featured CD rescue isn't really an option short of
> yanking the drive and putting it in another box ... I really need the
> right rescue.bin to do this the easy way.

I don't know of an anchive where a 2.2.18pre21 kernel can be found,
though a work-around is this:

   boot with the rescue.bin that gives you all the modules errors.
   You will then have access to the /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21 that you
   need.  Now replace the kernel on the rescue disk as described in :
   
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.en.html#s-rescue-replace-kernel
   Now you should be able to boot with that modified rescue.bin and the module
   symbols on your hard driver will be correct.


-David


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Re: Installing Debian Linux

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:13:41PM +0200 wrote:
> How can I install Debian Linux 2.2r5 on a Compaq Armada with parallel port
> external non-bootable CD ?
> 
> I searched for any info on your web page.

Hi,

Do you have a floppy drive?  If so:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-features-rescue

-David


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Re: thank you for last time here is another one

[David Kimdon]

Wed, May 29, 2002 at 03:48:57PM -0700 wrote:
> thank you for the last reply, now i got another
> question i just finished downloading the debian iso
> today. with jigdo is the current stable released iso
> does the kernel work with hpt370 raid device?
I don't know.

> i was 
> told  the hpt370 is handled by the hpt366 driver, and
> that is applied to the floppy flavor udma66 ver
> 2.2.16.
> 

The udma66 flavor uses the kernel-image-2.2.19-ide package.

Have a look at the kernel config:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/udma66/

Or the source package itself.
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.2.19-ide.html

-David


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Re: pcmcia_core module missing from woody installer ?

[David Kimdon]

Mon, May 27, 2002 at 02:35:52PM +0200 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Looks like the pcmcia_core module is missing from the woody installer ?
Can you be more specific, which version?  where did you get it, what
flavor (idepci, bf2.4 . . . ) what arch?

Thanks,

-David



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Re: Possible bug...

[David Kimdon]

Sat, May 25, 2002 at 10:41:18AM +0200 wrote:
> I hope im not the only one to experience this problem:
> 
> when booting from the current ATA66 boot floppies or the v2.2.5 iso,
That is potato, yes?

Please try woody boot-floppies.  There won't be another release of
potato boot-floppies.  We are very interested in bugs in woody
boot-floppies.

Thanks,

-David


> my computer freezes at "checking hlt instrucions...".
> 
> Is there a problem with Intel's 500mhz Mendozino Celerons?
> If not, perhaps with the other HW:
> 
> MB: PcChips (LX chipset)
> Gfx: Diamond Viper 550 (Nvidia TNT)
> Net: Realtek 8139
> HD: 4gb Quantum Fireball
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Change to the validator in the makefile of po dir

[David Kimdon]

reopen 138679
retitle 138679 newt can't handle long list boxes
reassign 138679 newt
quit

Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:17:31PM +0200 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Here is a patch to the makefile of dbootstrap/po dir, to check against too
> long messages. It relies on comments to the translators of the good format,
> and that could be improoved.

Cool :-) I think translator comments is the best we can do.  IMO, There
isn't a good way to automatically tell which messages are going into a
newtListBox(), someone really needs to read the code.  The culprit is
newt.

> 
> Can I commit it, or do you have any objections ?

It looks great.  Two things:

1. maybe a note indicating that if and when 138679 is fixed this test
can go away, as well as all the TRANS notes?  

2. if I read it correctly though the special handling of main_menu.c
isn't very maintainable when the file changes.  We're relying on line
numbers to stay the same, right?  Perhaps we just need a bunch of
'TRANS' messages in main_menu.c.

-David


> 
> Thanks, Mt.

> Index: Makefile
> ===
> RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po/Makefile,v
> retrieving revision 1.50
> diff -u -r1.50 Makefile
> --- Makefile  2002/03/16 15:04:39 1.50
> +++ Makefile  2002/05/22 13:17:28
> @@ -39,6 +39,20 @@
>  check-%: %.po
>   @echo -n "$<: "
>   @msgfmt -o /dev/null --statistics -c -v $<
> + @echo "Check for long messages..."
> + @pb=`grep -n --after-context=4 'keep this under one line' $< |\
> +  sed 's/./\0 -> /81' | grep ' -> [^"]'`; \
> +  if test "x$$pb" != "x"; then \
> +echo "  Some messages must be less than 63 chars.";\
> +   echo "$$pb;"; \
> +  fi;\
> +  pb=`grep -n --after-context=4 
>'^\#:.*main_menu.c:1[5-9][0-9]\|^\#:.*main_menu.c:2[0-2][0-9]' $< | \
> + grep '\"' | sed 's/./\0 -> /67' | grep ' -> [^"]'` ; \
> +  if test "x$$pb" != "x"; then \
> +echo "  Some messages seem to have to be less than 48 chars.";\
> +echo "  (see 
>lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200204/msg00375.html)";\
> +   echo "$$pb;"; \
> +  fi
>  
>  update-%: %.po $(PACKAGE).pot
>   cat=`basename $<`; \


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creating root.bin was: help

[David Kimdon]

Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:33:29AM -0500 wrote:
> When I turn the machine on the "Welcome to Debian" screen appears, and
> instructs me to press 'enter'.
>  
> Loading Linux.
> Uncompressing Linux..
> Then a bunch of information about the machine.
>  
> Then "VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press
> ENTER"
>  
> This is where I'm stuck.
> I have not been able to figure out how to make the root FD. And believe
> me I have spent many many many hours trying to figure it out on the
> Debian main page. This is my last hope before giving up, and using RH.
>  
> Can you tell me how to make a root FD, that is appropriate for this
> machine and kernel- image-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1? 

You should make the root floppy just like you made the rescue floppy
(the rescue floppy is the on that gave you the 'Welcome to Debian'
screen).  Can I assume that you created the rescue floppy by taking an
image with a name like resc1440.bin, a tool like rawrite or dd?  You
will also find root1440.bin in the same place that you found
resc1440.bin (most likely on your Debian CD under the disks-i386
directory.)


> And if I need another
> floppy after the root... please tell me how to make that also.
After the root floppy you should be able to use your Debian CD for the
rest of the install.

>  
> Or how to force the machine to boot from CD, 
that may or may not be possible.  Check in the BIOS to see if you need
to change the boot order and/or enable boot from CD.


-David


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Re: boot floppies debian

[David Kimdon]

Fri, May 17, 2002 at 07:24:50PM +0300 wrote:
> Hello dwhedon,
> 
> AFAIK I didn't find russian in a previous (1-2 month ago) versions of
> boot-floppies.

You are right, but I believe newer disks have Russian.  Specifically,
CDROM installs should have Russian translations now.

> Does You want russian to be supported ?
Definately.

Russian isn't completely up to date right now.
$ make check-ru
ru.po: 792 translated messages, 45 fuzzy translations, 17 untranslated messages.
$

It is too late to update translations for woody, however, updates to
translations now can make it into point releases of boot-floppies.

-David


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Bug#147232: boot-floppies: rootfs not unmounted cleanly

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: 3.0.23
Severity: normal

Hi,

I just installed with idepci.

I put rootfs on /dev/hdb2, I chose to make a boot-floppy, then chose
'reboot the system', when I reboot into my fresh Debian system I get a
message saying /dev/hdb2 was not unmounted cleanly, and fsck is run.

It looks like it is supposed to be init that unmounts for us (from
boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/prototype/inittab) :
null::shutdown:/bin/umount -a -r

Maybe the umount is failing.  How to fix this?

Anyway I just tried again (rescue disk, then immediately choose
'Reboot the System') and this time /dev/hdb2 was unmounted cleanly, no
fsck'ing problem.  That is, the problem isn't easily reproducable.

-David


-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #26 Thu May 9 20:37:58 PDT 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



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Re: coordinating b-f 3.0.23 release

[David Kimdon]

Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:23:59PM -0400 wrote:
> 
> If so, lets all show up on #debian-boot.  I'd prefer to David to build
> the i386 (and maybe source).  Anyhow, I'm around and I can tag, build
> source pkgs, and build the powerpc version

I'm building i386 binary now.

-David


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Re: Debian-installer : is there a leader or a plan ?

[David Kimdon]

Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:39:41PM +0200 wrote:
> * David Kimdon 
> 
> | Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:39:02PM +0200 wrote:
> | > * thomas poindessous 
> | > 
> | > Maintainer: David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is from libd-i's control
> | > file.  David, I assume you don't mind people hacking your code and NMU-ing?
> | 
> | hack away, and NMU, you have my blessing.
> | libd-i needs a new name, it got rejected by James Troup once because
> | of namespace pollution, I think libdebian-installer is probably a
> | better choice, albiet rather long.
> 
> I am sorry to interrupt ftp-master in their work to release woody, but
> would the above (libdebian-installer) be an ok name (and not likely to
> be rejected)?

IMO just upload with the new name, from what I remember he'll be okay
with that (assuming the library name is changed on disk as well.

-David


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Re: Debian-installer : is there a leader or a plan ?

[David Kimdon]

Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:39:02PM +0200 wrote:
> * thomas poindessous 
> 
> Maintainer: David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is from libd-i's control
> file.  David, I assume you don't mind people hacking your code and NMU-ing?



hack away, and NMU, you have my blessing.
libd-i needs a new name, it got rejected by James Troup once because
of namespace pollution, I think libdebian-installer is probably a
better choice, albiet rather long.

-David



msg19828/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature

testing b-f 3.0.23

[David Kimdon]

Hi all,

We are going to release 3.0.23 boot-floppies soon.  Some archs will
likely use this version for woody, depending on a variety of factors.

A test i386 set is available here:
http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/

changes here:
http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies_3.0.23_i386.changes

Please test and report back.

Thanks,

David


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Re: MCA/PCI-failure

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I'm cc'ing back to debian-boot, some more ideas may surface there.
I'm a bit confused about your present status (I've deleted our rather
lengthy conversation from this thread since it confuses me and I think
we should start fresh with some facts.)

1. You verified that bf24 version doesn't complain when initializing
PCI, correct?

2. At present your setup is failing to load root.bin, correct?

3. Have you found any combination or root.bin and rescue.bin that will
continue all the way to the installer?

4. What are you doing when the system hangs?  What is the last message
printed?

5. Do you have access to a cdrom?  ( If so, try
http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/bootbf2.4.iso , it isn't a full
cdrom, just enough to get the network up, but if your floppy drive is
broken this may be our only choice. )

I see you have tried multiple floppies, downloaded multiple times, so
it doesn't look like your problem is corrupt floppy images or bad
floppy disks.

-David


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Re: cvs commit to boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/messages/fr by mquinson

[David Kimdon]

Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:26:21PM +0200 wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 12:20:56AM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote:
> > Repository: boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/messages/fr
> > who:mquinson
> > time:   Fri May  3 00:20:56 PDT 2002
> > Log Message:
> >   Sync to EN [Pierre Machard]
> > 
> > Files:
> > changed:release_notes
> 
> Where am I supposed to log the changes (ie which changelog file is good for
> this part) ?

boot-floppies/debian/changelog

-David
> 
> Thanks, Mt.
> 
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Re: patch for debian-boot/boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/messages/C/release_notes

[David Kimdon]

Looks good to me.

-David

Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 10:02:42PM -0400 wrote:
> I didn't want to step on anyone's toes by committing the following
> change without bringing it up here.
> 
> There was a discussion on #debian-devel complaining about the use of the
> word 'unpaid' when referring to the debian developers. Below is
> a suggested change. I will commit it in a few days if there are no
> objections.
> 
> In debian-boot/boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/messages/C/release_notes:
> 
> - Debian's developers are unpaid volunteers from all around the world,
> + Debian is created by a worldwide team of over 900 volunteers
>   collaborating via the Internet. We have formed the non-profit
> 
> The main objection I can see is that all 21 translations would need to
> be updated.
> 
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Re: 3.0.23 for mips/i386 Was: boot-floppies manual

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 02:36:29AM +0200 wrote:
> I have just
> tried to use the 3.0.22 floppys on i386 (The normal ones) which are
> broken too - The DOS gfx/line characters i
is that the same bugs as:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=142305&repeatmerged=yes
?

> are not displayed and in some
> occasions the screen gets garbled completely which requires some
> experience on how to continue (Either by knowing ctrl-l works or by
> knowing how many steps with cursor keys to do to continue)
>
Can you be more specific?  Has a bug been filed?

Thanks,
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Re: Boot Floppys

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

debian-boot only deals with problems getting a basic Debian system up,
that doesn't include X.  I'm forwarding this to debian-user where
there are more knowledgable people for this type of problem.

-David

Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:39:39PM -0400 wrote:
> Gentlemen/Ladies,
> 
> Have in the past run both Woody and Sid by installing Potato and 
> dist-upgrading my way to completion.
> 
> I d/l and tested both net-install boot floppies, bf2.4 and standard 
> (2.2.20).
> 
> In both cases I, ended up with an installed system with no video. Running 
> XF86config and re-setting the paramaters, had no effect.
> 
> The bf2.4 attempt recognized the problem, and referred me to a screen 
> depicting the vid card, monitor, mouse, etc, but I was unable to change any 
> settings in that layout.
> 
> Monitor= KDS 17, Mbr= Asus K7vt (slotA Athlon900), VIdcard=Gforceddr, 
> memory=512,
> 
> The above combo, has successfully used Most commercial Debian dists. 
> (Libranet, (currently). Also Progeny, Storm, Slack, Mandrake,
> Conectiva, Redhat(briefly) etc. (I consider it a Linux-Box.)
> 
> The drive (And computer for the most part.) has been running Libranet, 
> woody, and sid for quite some time with no difficulty.
> 
> I d/l the net-install images, wiped the partitions, and tried both iso disk 
> (bf2.4 and 2.2.20) with the above results.
> 
> I am suspecting the 4.10 XF86 packages but at this point it is just a gut 
> feeling.
> 
> Sorry that I could not offer more hard data as to what is going on.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
>  
> Daniel Burns
> 
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Re: Compaq cciss

[David Kimdon]

> maybe you remember: some weeks (or months) I've emailed you... I 
> wanted to help out with Debian and cciss support for the Installer
> 
> too sad... my time is spare at the moment (I will marrie in may and 
> there is A LOT to prepare)
congratulations :-)

>  and I wasn't able to finish my work. On DWN 
> I've read that you've uploaded a new release and this will be the 
> release that will be used for woody. Seems that I was too slow :-(
> 

Have no fear, I think cciss support has been added (from
boot-floppies/debian/changelog 3.0.20):

  * Dirk Lipinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- provided patch to support CCISS devices. In conjunction with bf2.4, we
  should go fine with it. Will close #134233, #132864 when MAKEDEV support
  is ready and we can create the devices. Same applies for
  debootstrap.

Am I missing something?  Is it not working (in which case a bug should
be filed)?


> ok, but I guess that my work could do into a later release. So, I just 
> wanted to ask one question.   If I create the devices under 
> /dev/cciss on the 1.44 MB boot floppy (no matter what flavour), I get 
> an out-of-space error. What would you prefer:
> 
> 
> o no compaq cciss support for the 1.44 MB Images (so only for the 2.88 
> MB - I guess these are the images that are used for the El Torito 
> bootable CD's)
> 
> o or just create a new flavour of the boot-floppies ("-compaq" for 
> example)
>

I'm forwarding to the list, I'm not sure what the current state of
cciss support is.

-David


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Bug#142305: i386 - borders gone on vanilla flavor

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: 3.0.22
Severity: minor

I observed this as well today.  I tested the vanilla kernel, there
were no borders on the first few boxes (I didn't progress as far as
the driver config, so I can't confirm problems there.)


-David


Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:37:11AM -0400 wrote:
> Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> > 
> > > > I can't believe I'm the first one to see this, but I couldn't
> > > > find anything in the bugtracking syste or e-mail archives.
> > > > 
> > > > When doing a Woody install from floppies, the borders on the
> > > > newt dialog windows are broken.  They're either missing
> > > > entirely (most of the installer) or garbage characters that
> > > > cause layout errors (module loading sub-system).
> 
> Please file a bug.
> 
> Problems that are not filed as bugs will likely not get fixed.
> 
> > > > I've seen this on two systems so far.
> > 
> > Might this be a problem with the vanilla flavor not using
> > framebuffer/bogl?
> 
> It's possible but it used to work before and I think it works for
> arches which don't use framebuffer or i18n stuff.
> 
> The person reporting the error did not report exactly what
> version/arch/flavor they were using.  Obviously this should be part of
> any bug report.
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borders gone on vanilla flavor

[David Kimdon]

Paskage: boot-floppies
Version: 3.0.22
Severity: minor

I observed this as well today.  I tested the vanilla kernel, there
were no borders on the first few boxes (I didn't progress as far as
the driver config, so I can't confirm problems there.)


-David


Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:37:11AM -0400 wrote:
> Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> > 
> > > > I can't believe I'm the first one to see this, but I couldn't
> > > > find anything in the bugtracking syste or e-mail archives.
> > > > 
> > > > When doing a Woody install from floppies, the borders on the
> > > > newt dialog windows are broken.  They're either missing
> > > > entirely (most of the installer) or garbage characters that
> > > > cause layout errors (module loading sub-system).
> 
> Please file a bug.
> 
> Problems that are not filed as bugs will likely not get fixed.
> 
> > > > I've seen this on two systems so far.
> > 
> > Might this be a problem with the vanilla flavor not using
> > framebuffer/bogl?
> 
> It's possible but it used to work before and I think it works for
> arches which don't use framebuffer or i18n stuff.
> 
> The person reporting the error did not report exactly what
> version/arch/flavor they were using.  Obviously this should be part of
> any bug report.
> 
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Re: parted.txt build problem

[David Kimdon]

Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:03:46AM +0200 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> % make parted.txt
> ./man2text /archive/debian parted 8 parted > parted.txt
> ./man2text: /usr/lib/debootstrap/functions: No such file or directory
> No manual entry for parted
> W: parted(8) ASCII man page cannot be generated, stubbing
boot-floppies needs debootstrap to build.

> 
> Is it possible to just ship the right thing outright?
>
You mean keep a local copy of the man page?  I'd rather not.
Duplication like that can lead to excess work and/or out of date docs.

-David


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Re: newt boxes displaying problems (translation problem)

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I recently added more TRANS messages saying to keep these under 63
characters.  If you see a string that is too long and doesn't have an
appropriate TRANS message, please add it.  So far all the strings I
have seen us talking about have such a TRANS message (as of a few days
ago).

-David

Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:04:49PM +0100 wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 03:04:59PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:41:45PM +0200, thomas poindessous wrote:
> > > If it is that, can you contact french translator please ?
> > 
> > That's me :)
> 
> I think the descripion of /var when prompting for mountpoints needs to
> be shortened too - it is much longer than the other menu entries,
> resulting in a very wide menu with no borders for me (hppa).
> 
> Richard
> 
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frame-buffer on vanilla? (was: Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??)

[David Kimdon]

Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:17:57AM +0200 wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:06:19AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > > > > cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla
> > > I got a second, any opposed?
> > After considering this, I'm opposed.
> > If the decision is that the default boot floppies for woody i386 are
> > 2.2 ones (that don't do languages properly), I don't see that it is
> > within the aegis of debian-cd to make a unilateral decision to
> > override that for the CDs.
> 
> Note that the proposal was to use idepci by default, not bf2.4. The only
> change (besides the ide patches, and maybe something else) is that
> idepci has language chooser enabled.

Another big change that I had not considered is vanilla has many more
drivers as modules than idepci.  Hardware such as sound cards are not
supported in idepci.  In my eyes that kills the idea, though I really
wanted to see the language chooser . . . all 18 languages . . .  on
the first CD.  Is enabling frame-buffer an option on the vanilla
flavor?  (Herbert, I cc'd you to get your opinion on that, I don't
know all that is involved.)

Thanks,

David


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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:00:45PM -0800 wrote:
> > cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla
>   
>   SCSI???  is there such a devil ?
>   Its not in bf 3.0.22-2002-04-03  ;-/
s/scsi/compact/

I got a second, any opposed?

-David


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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

[David Kimdon]

Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:59:05PM +0100 wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote:
> > Before you lam-bast me with a nastygram, please grab
> > or create a copy of the woody CD's, and try an installation with 
> > CD#1 as the disk you innitially boot from,  then try the
> > CD#3 with the bf24 kernel.   The first thing you will notice
> > is that the bf24 flavor first asks you for your language, where
> > the "default" does not.
> 
> A more conservative way to get the language chooser going would be to
> put compact or idepci on the first disk.  It doesn't require 2.4 as
> such.

aph and I were just talking on irc, how about :

cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla

That gives us language chooser on the first CD, a big plus, while
still giving us 2.2 as 'default'.  IMO leaving the language chooser
off the first CD would be a real shame.

Any seconds?

-David


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Bug#140980: boot-floppies: confusing message box

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:29:30AM +0200 wrote:
> message, IMHO. Patch attached, untested.

Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for.   Obviously someone needs
to test it, but it fixes this bug.


Thanks,

David


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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

[David Kimdon]

Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800 wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: MD5
> 
> Hi,
> - -- 
> Question:
> 
> Would there be any objections to setting the default
> boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? 
> 

Yes, the bf2.4 kernel is described in the woody release notes as "an
experimental flavor".  The default kernel for woody on i386 is 2.2.
Putting an experimental non-default kernel on the first CD is probably
not a good idea.

However, debian-boot doesn't decide what the default kernel is on
i386 (who does?).   If someone wants to revisit the question of what
the default kernel should be perhaps such a discussion is appropriate
on debian-devel.  In any case, I doubt such a change so close to
release is possible.

-David


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Bug#140980: boot-floppies: confusing message box

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:39:00PM +0200 wrote:
> severity 140980 minor
> thanks
> 
> > Am I viewing the list of bootable partitions, or am I choosing which
> > partitions I want in the boot menu?  I think I am choosing, so the above
> > 'View : Show' menu should probably be change to read 'Choose'.
> 
> Means new functionality, we should not do this in the current phase.

No, I'm not asking for new functionality.  I'm asking for
clarification of the message, it is confusing.  Someone needs to read
through dbootstrap source and figure out what is really going on, the
messages/choices are inconsistent at present.  BTW, I have no problem
with the severity adjustment.

-David


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Re: Solved: sparc tftpboot failure

[David Kimdon]

Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:45:30PM -0500 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:17:59PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> > On an Ultra1, 384MB boot-floppies 3.0.20-2002-03-07:
> > 
> > 2b3000 TILO
> > Selecting sun4u kernel...
> > Memory Address not Aligned
> 
> I built my own tftpboot.img using boot-floppies 3.0.21 source, and
> everything works.  I do not know whether this was a bug in 3.0.20 that is
> now fixed, or if something went wrong when the 3.0.20 images were built.
> 
> Anyway, since there is no official 3.0.21 sparc boot-floppies build, should
> I do one and upload it?

How about 3.0.22? You may want to coordinate with BenC so there is no
repeated work.

-David


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Re: Unidentified subject!

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:23:39AM +0530 wrote:
> dear users,
> 
>  where can i find the latest source for the boot-floppies package. 
> where  can i get a change log 
http://cvs.debian.org/

> a todo list
http://bugs.debian.org/boot-floppies

Though you may also want to look into the debian-installer project.
boot-floppies is end-of-lifed.

-David


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Fixed in NMU of modconf 0.2.43

[David Kimdon]

tag 137547 + fixed

quit

This message was generated automatically in response to a
non-maintainer upload.  The .changes file follows.

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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:25:38 +0100
Source: modconf
Binary: modconf
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.2.43
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Boot Floppies Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 modconf- Device Driver Configuration
Closes: 137547
Changes: 
 modconf (0.2.43) unstable; urgency=low
 .
- clear screen properly when running in bterm, otherwise
  messages when loading modules on i18n boot-floppies are corrupted
  (closes: #137547)
Files: 
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Bug#140980: boot-floppies: confusing message box

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: 3.0.22
Severity: normal

Hi,

In the 'other bootable partitions' dialog I choose:

View: Show the list of bootable partitions

Then I get:

The following partitions are bootable:
/dev/hda1: WinNT



Am I viewing the list of bootable partitions, or am I choosing which
partitions I want in the boot menu?  I think I am choosing, so the above
'View : Show' menu should probably be change to read 'Choose'.

-David

-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #1 Thu Mar 14 20:07:41 PST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



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Bug#140579: boot-floppies: [i386] boot-floppies 3.0.21 fail to load root.bin via tftp

[David Kimdon]

> If not, the easiest thing is to simply disable TFTP on i386...

IIRC we had a bug saying someone wanted tftp support on i386.  We
enabled it but later the submitter said he wasn't able to test to
see if the images we produce actually worked.  I don't know if the
i386 tftpboot images have ever been tested.

-David


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Re: 3.0.22 tagged, please build your arch

[David Kimdon]

> 
> So -- can you re-upload it?  Or should I do another i386 3.0.22 build?
I'm re-uploading to ftp-master now, it will take a few hours.

-David


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3.0.22 tagged, please build your arch

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I'm currently uploading 3.0.22 source and i386 binary, it should be
finished in an hour or so. cvs is tagged, please build 3.0.22 for
your arch.

You may want to use the new and improved modconf 0.2.43, it has a
screen clearing fix for i18n flavors, I uploaded it to samosa this
evening.  Or grab it here:
http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/modconf_0.2.43_all.deb

Other than that just make sure you are building on an up to date
testing system.

Thanks,

-David


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Re: [fw: 3.0.22 plan, translations (b-f bugs dropping like flies.)]

[David Kimdon]

It is late Sunday Pacific Time, I'm releasing 3.0.22, FYI.
I'm on #debian-boot

-David

Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 04:05:25PM -0500 wrote:
> David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'd like to see a release of boot-floppies 3.0.22 on or around the
> > weekend of April 6.  I'm hoping to organize some extensive testing of
> > this release (probably the weekend of April 13).
> 
> I'm happy to help do the work to even release it this weekend.
> Releasing the pkg is the best way to get testers, IMHO.  That way, if
> we need to make more changes, we still have a week or so for 3.0.23...
> 
> Anyhow, I'll try to be on #debian-boot if anyone wants me real-time.
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Re: pending issues for boot-floppies

[David Kimdon]

> I've heard several reports that modconf/whiptail crashes on some
> kind of framebuffer. I've heard of some bad framebuffer problem,
> and I've heard of other causes.
> 
> At least, I have fixed a possible cause of the problem,
> in whiptail, with 0.50.17-9.6
> It will be a while until it will hit testing.

Sounds important, perhaps we want to add something like i(is
whiptail-utf8 affected) ? :


Index: EXTRACT_LIST_non-i18n
===
RCS file:
/cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/EXTRACT_LIST_non-i18n,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 EXTRACT_LIST_non-i18n
--- EXTRACT_LIST_non-i18n   2002/02/25 18:32:53 1.4
+++ EXTRACT_LIST_non-i18n   2002/04/01 04:21:07
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 libnewt0 0.50.17-9
 slang1
 nano-tiny
-whiptail 0.50.17-9
+whiptail 0.50.17-9.6


-David


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Re: Still some problems with CLEAR in bterm and dbootstrap

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:32:39AM +0100 wrote:
> These are only about the CLEAR problem (ie, not a translation error).
> 
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/08-choix_clavier_error.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/09-partition.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/10-partition_choix.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/11-avertissement-lilo.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/23-swap_cluster.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/24-swap_format.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/25-initialiser-linux.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/26-linux-badblocks.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/27-linux-format.html
> > > http://diablero.free.fr/debian/37-progress-download.html


I believe these will all be fixed in the next release, I just did an
install with the new bogl-bterm and didn't notice any of the above
oddities.

-David


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Bug#140493: reassign to whiptail? (the program "modconf" crash when i go to

[David Kimdon]

reading the log it looks like this bug is pending and should be
reassigned to whiptail, any seconds?

-David


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3.0.22 plan, translations (b-f bugs dropping like flies.)

[David Kimdon]

Hi all,

I'd like to see a release of boot-floppies 3.0.22 on or around the
weekend of April 6.  I'm hoping to organize some extensive testing of
this release (probably the weekend of April 13).

In addition I'd like to coordinate cdimages (both full, net-inst maybe
dvd too?) built in a semi-official way so we can point testers to them
as well.

Therefore next week the following should happen:

translations: some po files need updating [1]
finnish.src : needs to be created ( see 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2002/debian-i18n-200203/msg00026.html)
b-f bugs : 139595, more bugs should be fixed, no more bugs should be
 introduced 
modconf: 137547 is fixed in cvs, we need that uploaded, along with any
 other bugs that can be fixed.
debian-cd: there are a couple of pending bugs, including one that will
 allow for all languages to be available on the CD, that will be
 great to see.
net-inst: do net-inst/mini-iso cds have the extra language packs, can they?
debian-dvd: do we want to make official debian dvd's?  what is
 involved?

Anything else?

-David


[1] current statistics :
cs.po: 440 translated messages, 170 fuzzy translations, 243 untranslated messages.
eo.po: 824 translated messages, 21 fuzzy translations, 8 untranslated messages.
es.po: 793 translated messages, 28 fuzzy translations, 32 untranslated messages.
fi.po: 556 translated messages, 57 fuzzy translations, 240 untranslated messages.
hr.po: 650 translated messages, 28 fuzzy translations, 175 untranslated messages.
hu.po: 714 translated messages, 51 fuzzy translations, 88 untranslated messages.
ko.po: 738 translated messages, 30 fuzzy translations, 85 untranslated messages.
ja.po: 786 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation, 66 untranslated messages.
pl.po: 707 translated messages, 51 fuzzy translations, 95 untranslated messages.
ru.po: 838 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations, 11 untranslated messages.
sk.po: 206 translated messages, 255 fuzzy translations, 392 untranslated messages.
sv.po: 841 translated messages, 14 fuzzy translations, 2 untranslated messages.
tr.po: 452 translated messages, 181 fuzzy translations, 220 untranslated messages.
zh_CN.po: 540 translated messages, 93 fuzzy translations, 222 untranslated messages.
zh_TW.po: 842 translated messages, 9 fuzzy translations, 2 untranslated messages.


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Bug#136328: boot-floppies message needs transating

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

We have 4 languages left that need translations of :

Choose this and press Enter to proceed in English.

(substituting 'English' for the appropriate language, less that 64
characters, please).

The files in question are here:

boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/langs/
chinese_s.src
czech.src
hungarian.src
turkish.src

If you can, please either make the change yourself, or reply to the
BTS with an appropriate message and it will be applied.

Thanks,

David


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Bug#140215: i386 serial console support

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Severity: wishlist

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From: Burján Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing 
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Hello,

It would be nice to see following line in syslinux.cfg on rescue
floppy:

   SERIAL 0 9600

(According to syslinux documentation it must be the first directive.)

With this, syslinux gives prompt on the first serial console *too*.
Installation may done without video card and keyboard at all, user can
pass options like console=ttyS0,9600 parameter to kernel.

Gabor


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Re: [kautz@kcservice.net: Out of place text?]

[David Kimdon]

Thanks, 

This is fixed in cvs.

-David

Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:22:12PM +0100 wrote:
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> Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 02:09:11 +0100
> From: "Adam Kautz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Out of place text?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> In section 4.2 of the Debian installation instructions 
>(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html#s-planning-use) 
>it reads, "Link to a page dynamically generated using current tasksel to list tasks 
>with associated sizes. Delete following outdated list." Perhaps this is a message 
>meant for the webmaster?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Adam Kautz
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Re: Booting Problem: LILO 22.1Loading LinuxEBDA too big....

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

Is this a new install?  (Debian potato or woody?) Did you recently
change kernels?  If you change kernels did you keep a copy of the old
kernel?  Does the old copy boot?

-David

Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 07:31:53PM -0500 wrote:
> Hi,
> I am having rebooting my server machine, it comes to loading the kernel 
> and gives the following error
> LILO 22.1 Loading LinuxEBDA too big
> and hangs.
> Please help me, because this is one of our server that people work on.
> Thankingyou,
> Sincerly,
> Gova
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Re: Still some problems with CLEAR in bterm and dbootstrap

[David Kimdon]

reassign 138679 boot-floppies
quit

Hi,

Martin I cc'ed you to comment on (and apply if you like) the patch
below. 


> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/08-choix_clavier_error.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/09-partition.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/10-partition_choix.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/11-avertissement-lilo.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/23-swap_cluster.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/24-swap_format.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/25-initialiser-linux.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/26-linux-badblocks.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/27-linux-format.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/37-progress-download.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/43-progress-install.html
> 

I looked through most of these, they all look like the same
problem, bad clearing, a hack might be to throw in some extra clears.
We need a new bug openned.

> Here are problems caused by texts too long:
> 
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/36-choix-mirror.html
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/42-choix-serveur.html
these two are fixed in cvs.

> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/44-choix-lilo.html
>
I had assigned this one to newt, but I just reassigned it back to
boot-floppies. We should just make these messages shorter.  There is
really enough information in the main part of the dialog box that we
don't need to put so much in the choices.  

Maybe the following (I just added a TRANS note so this change can be
propogated to other po files):

Index: fr.po
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po/fr.po,v
retrieving revision 1.82
diff -u -r1.82 fr.po
--- fr.po   2002/03/19 10:45:36 1.82
+++ fr.po   2002/03/25 05:31:14
@@ -1164,13 +1164,12 @@
 #: bootconfig.c:2505
 msgid "Install LILO in the MBR (use this if unsure)."
 msgstr ""
-"Installer LILO dans le secteur d'amorçage principal (MBR) (utiliser ceci en "
-"cas de doute)"
+"Installer dans le MBR (utiliser ceci en cas de doute)"
 
 #: bootconfig.c:2507
 msgid "Install LILO in the boot partition's boot sector."
 msgstr ""
-"Installer LILO sur dans la partition de démarrage du secteur de démarrage."
+"Installer dans la partition de démarrage du secteur de démarrage."
 
 #: bootconfig.c:2509
 msgid "Install LILO in the root partition's boot sector."

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Re: Still some problems with CLEAR in bterm and dbootstrap

[David Kimdon]

Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:59:41PM +0100 wrote:
> le dim 24-03-2002 à 15:27, Junichi Uekawa a écrit :
> > Thomas Poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> > 
> > > There is also a CLEAR problem when you insert a module, screen is not
> > > cleared.
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm.. did we fix it in modconf ?
> > The problem being something about missing, or extra "2" that
> > bogl cannot parse but xterm can.
> 
> I'm not sure that is a modconf's problem.
> The message output by modconf is a normal one, but it's printed on the
> previous dbootstrap menu.
> 
> I will take a screenshot to show you.
> 
> here :
> http://diablero.free.fr/debian/error_insmod.png

yes, that is modconf problem, thanks for reproducing it and for the
previous screen shots as well.  I haven't looked through them all, I
don't think we yet have a bug filed for these no-as-awful dbootstrap
screen not cleared problems, at least we can read everything, it does
look bad to have the extra text in the background though.

-David

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Re: Still some problems with CLEAR in bterm and dbootstrap

[David Kimdon]

Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 11:27:53PM +0900 wrote:
> Thomas Poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> 
> > There is also a CLEAR problem when you insert a module, screen is not
> > cleared.
> 
> 
> Hmm.. did we fix it in modconf ?
> The problem being something about missing, or extra "2" that
> bogl cannot parse but xterm can.

#137547, the patch that I posted with the report worked but wasn very
pretty, then blade posted a patch that he reports doesn't work.  We
basically need to automatically detect when running under a bterm, and
then redefine clear.  Actually I just looked at bogl and we should be
able to key off TERM=bterm, a new patch coming soon.

-David

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Bug#138716: [b-f sparc] enable fs other than ext2

[David Kimdon]

reassign 139418 kernel-image-sparc-2.4
quit

Hi,

I looked through dbootstrap a bit and it does look like (as rgh pointed out) if
the kernel supports ext3 the ext3 option will be available at install time.

that is:

CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y

should do the trick.

I bet one (or maybe both?) of the boot-floppy flavors corresponds to
the kernel-image-sparc-2.4, i fnot, please reassign as appropriate.

The sun4cdm
(http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/sun4cdm/kernel-config)
doesn't have EXT3.

The sun4u config
(http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/sun4u/kernel-config)
has CONFIG_EXT3_FS=m, that should be y to get ext3 on boot-floppies.

-David


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Bug#138849: boot-floppies: syslinux screen on boot-floppies created boot-floppy has messed chars

[David Kimdon]

Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:10:48AM +0100 wrote:
> #include 
> David Kimdon wrote on Mon Mar 18, 2002 um 10:38:29PM:
> 
> > > Same for german. The message is hardcoded in dbootstrap translation and
> > 
> > 
> > While we are at it, are there messages used?  Perhaps they are cruft
> > and can be removed?
> 
> They give the general hints about how to use boot prompt. The
> boot-floppy created by dbootstrap presents the message. IMO may be
> useful for clueless people.

What I meant to say is it looks like we have two copies of the same
message. I haven't found where the second one is used, and I'm
suggesting it should be removed.

utilities/dbootstrap/po/C.po line 170
#. TRANS: The next message has to be DOS formatted for syslinux.
#: bootconfig.c:312
#, c-format
msgid ""
"\n"
"Linux will be started automatically using the kernel on this floppy
disk.\n"
"The root filesystem will be mounted from %s .\n"
"\n"
"When you start to type a command at the \"boot:\" prompt, the
automatic\n"
"bootstrap process will stop. You may then type the name of the kernel
to\n"
"use followed by any kernel options in the form option=value.\n"
"\n"
"The kernel must be on the floppy disk in the first floppy drive. A
kernel\n"
"file called \"linux.bin\" was installed on this floppy when it was
created. "
"If you\n"
"wish to use a kernel on the hard disk, remove the floppy and press
RESET\n"
"\n"
msgstr ""

bash-2.05a$ cat scripts/rootdisk/messages/C/boot_message 

Linux will be started automatically using the kernel on this floppy disk.
The root filesystem will be mounted from %s.

When you start to type a command at the "boot:" prompt, the automatic
bootstrap process will stop.  You may then type the name of the kernel to
use followed by any kernel options in the form option=value.

The kernel must be on the floppy disk in the first floppy drive.  A kernel
file called "linux.bin" was installed on this floppy when it was created.  If you
wish to use a kernel on the hard disk, remove the floppy and press
RESET

bash-2.05a$ 

> 
> Gruss/Regards,
> Eduard.
> -- 
> Alpträumer!
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> Apfelschorle-Besteller!
> Pannenhilfe-Anrufer!
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Bug#138849: boot-floppies: syslinux screen on boot-floppies created boot-floppy has messed chars

[David Kimdon]

Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:04:32AM +0100 wrote:
> #include 
> David Kimdon wrote on Sun Mar 17, 2002 um 09:41:59PM:
> 
> > I installed in french and made a boot-floppy.  When I boot off that
> > floppy the message from syslinux is nicely in french for me.  However
> > every accented character is garbled, it looks very bad.  
> 
> Same for german. The message is hardcoded in dbootstrap translation and


While we are at it, are there messages used?  Perhaps they are cruft
and can be removed?
boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk/messages/[ca|cs|da|de ... ]/boot_message

-David


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Re: boot-floppies 3.0.21 releasing

[David Kimdon]

> m68k built fine. I did not see any disks-* for 3.0.21 on auric, has this
> version been accepted yet?

I was curious about this as well.  I asked on #debian-devel.  byhand
installs are stalled for the moment, but in one or two days 3.0.21
should make it in, I'm told.

> 
> Do I have to build 3.0.20 as well or can I save some time and skip it? (the

IMO skip it and spend your time elsewhere.

-David


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Bug#138849: boot-floppies: syslinux screen on boot-floppies created boot-floppy has messed chars

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-17
Severity: minor

Hi,

I installed in french and made a boot-floppy.  When I boot off that
floppy the message from syslinux is nicely in french for me.  However
every accented character is garbled, it looks very bad.  

This is probably a bug in syslinux.  If the bug isn't easy to fix in
syslinux though, perhaps we should put in non-accented equivalents so
the text is easier to read? As it is I can make it out, but it would
definately be clearer if the garbled characters were removed.  Would
we want to do that for every language?  I see that ko and ja are in
English, presumably because syslinux has no chance of making anything
like those characters.

-David

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Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #1 Thu Mar 14 20:07:41 PST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



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Bug#105621: #105621: boot-floppies: Woody installer failes when pre-loading modules from a floppy

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

I took a look at the current b-f source wrt this bug.

If the the /tmp/mod-save-dir exists (the deleted dir in the bug
report) that indicates that the _("Preload essential modules from a
floppy") step was chosen. 

_("This step is only required if the hard disk controller, on which
you want to install Debian GNU/Linux, is not recognized. In most
cases, you can safely skip this.\n"

If it is the case that the modules were 'required', then deleting
/tmp/mod-save-dir will cause the initrd to not be created.  With no
initrd I would have expected the system to not mount the root
filesystem upon rebooting.  Am I missing something?

Even if the modules weren't actually required there is still the
question of 'not enough space in the mounted initrd'.  What leads you
to believe there was not enough space?  

FWIW, space is calculated in get_ramdisk_size().  Do we need to
increase the 30k fudge factor?:

  size += 30; /* trust no one */

I don't see anything obviously wrong with the code.  Did the machine
run out of RAM?

Thanks,

-David


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Re: cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/langs by cklin

[David Kimdon]

Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 06:19:57PM -0500 wrote:
> 
> > Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/langs
> > who:cklin
> > time:   Sun Mar 17 00:31:36 PST 2002
> > Log Message:
> >   Fixes #136328.
> 
> Please add changelog entries 
agreed

> and the 'closes: #136328' entry in
> debian/changelog

actually, AFAIK these all still need fixing before the bugs should be
closed:

chinese_s.src   date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56;
croatian.srcdate: 2001/09/08 23:11:15;
czech.src   date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56;
hungarian.src   date: 2002/02/28 18:59:25;
japanese.srcdate: 2002/03/02 00:36:26;
portuguese.src  date: 2001/12/26 16:04:27;
russian.src date: 2002/03/10 20:52:34;
spanish.src date: 2002/02/28 15:49:25;
swedish.src date: 2002/02/28 15:49:25;
turkish.src date: 2002/02/28 18:59:25;

-David
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