mol

2003-06-21 Thread emorfin
Hi!

if i want to run mol as any user it tells me that the program most be 
suid, so:

$chmod u+s startmol (link and target) 

but steal said me the same. Any ideas?



Re: No mouse on console

2003-06-21 Thread emorfin

/etc/gpm.conf:

devvice /dev/input/mice

i'm not in my debian box right now.



On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

> Has anyone managed to get a USB mouse working on a Powerbook G4
> on the console?
> 
> If yes: How did you do it?
> 
> I have here a Logitech optical wheel mouse, and nothing so far
> seems to get it running on the console.
> 
> Output in /var/log/syslog says (as it seems for disconnecting and then
> reconnecting the mouse to the USB connector):
> 
> --
> Jun 21 18:48:51 debby kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2
> Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, 
> assigned device number 3
> Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: input4: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on 
> usb1:3.0
> ---
> 
> gpm 1.19.6-12 is installed
> 
> gpmconfig says:
> 
> Device: /dev/gpmdata
> Type: imps2
> Repeat_Type: raw
> 
> 
> I *think* I had it connected to /dev/psaux before, but I'm not sure of
> that ...
> So far, none of the settings I tried got the mouse up and running
> 
> Strange:
> 
> At the end of gpmconfig I'm told by this routine that the
> mouse interface server : gpm
> is first stopped, then started, but all this without any error message.
> 
> (Just once, IIRC, it said it could not see a gpm.pid (?) in some
> directory, or something like that)
> 
> But when I do a
> ps -C gpm
> 
> all I get is
> --
>   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> --
> 
> 
> Or, as another possibility to solve this:
> 
> Is the Debian-Version I'm running -- 3.0 r1, stable -- so broken,
> incomplete, or whatever, that it will make sense to upgrade to testing?
> 
> After all there are more things here that do not work.
> 
> Could be very well that all this and other mess here is due to my lack of
> experience with Debian ... but if the stuff is simply buggy then please
> someone let me know ...
> 
> Thanks in anticipation.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Wolfgang Pfeiffer
> 



Error when Gnome2 Starts

2003-06-21 Thread Mannequin*
Hi all,

I just upgraded to Gnome 2, and I was wondering how to go about fixing
this problem. I've erased all of my Gnome/Gnome 2 prefs, and I've
installed everything I can think of that would deal with this problem.

Anyway, here is the error message that pops up when Gnome 2 is starting:


There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.

Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work
correctly.

The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.

The last error message was:

Failed to activate 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon'

GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log
in.


I also have a problem with gkrellm2 showing up in my task bar when I
have it set specifically not to.

Before I forget, I'm running a Powerbook G3 Firewire under Debian
Testing. (With some Unstable packages...)

Thanks!
-Mannequin



Re: gnome2.2 broken?

2003-06-21 Thread Grzesiek Sedek
Hi,
I've solved this by installing metacity package... 
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 22:21, Giuseppe Sacco wrote:
> Sabato, 21 Giu 2003, alle 21:39 Europe/Rome, Grzesiek Sedek ha scritto:
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> > I wonder if anyone expierienced problems with nautulitus and evolution
> > recently?
> > After upgrade on thursday nothing happened, but when I've rebooted my
> > ibook gnome spit out some errors (nautlitius cant be startet) all
> > gnome-applets are gone, and evolution is dead as well (that's on sid)
> > is it a problem with gtk2?
> 
> I had some problem with evolution (see http://bugs.debian.org/198278) 
> from Sid but nothing related to gnome.
> 
> Bye,
> Giuseppe
-- 
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Re: updated kernel problem

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 08:45:57PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:10:13AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:18:31AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:04AM +0100, Joss Winn wrote:
> > > > Sven,
> > > > 
> > > > I just grabbed your 2.4.20-4 pmac build and I've rebooted and it's fine.
> > > 
> > > :)))
> > > 
> > 
> > Once you get that out of the way ...
> > 
> > As of over a year ago, the 2.2.x debian chrp powerpc kernel
> > was apparently unbootable from floppy:
> 
> Mmm, notice that i only maintain the sid packages, Dan still handles the
> older woody ones.
> 
> > In Re: "Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50"
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200204/msg01210.html
> 
> Ok, just curious, but you are clearly a chrp user, and i would like to
> know what kernel you are using, and from what source you take it (self
> compiled kernel, self built package, unofficial or official debian
> package).

No, I'm not. It just bothered me ever since then that we have kernels 
in the archive that don't work.
 
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Re: No jokes on Linux writers? [was: Re: konsole]

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:43:44AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:

[ OT stuff ]

Sorry, I didn't mean that to be a list reply #-/

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Bingo! [was: Re: No mouse on console]

2003-06-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Brad

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Brad Boyer wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Has anyone managed to get a USB mouse working on a Powerbook G4
> > on the console?
>

   [  ]
>
> > gpmconfig says:
> > 
> > Device: /dev/gpmdata
> > Type: imps2
> > Repeat_Type: raw
> > 
>
> This is most likely your problem. Mine says this:
>
> Device: /dev/input/mice
> Type: autops2
> Repeat_Type: ms3
>

 Bingo! That was what I feeded now to gpmconfig, and it works ...
My console mouse is up now ... :)

Thanks a lot, Brad ...
It took me hours to find out absolutely nothing, perhaps next time I'll
ask a bit sooner here. :)

And you know what: I just realised, even the trackpad is working now!
(I don't remember it being working here on Debian ever before ..)

Thanks again. :)

Best Regards,
Wolfgang

[ ... ]
>
>   Brad Boyer
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

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Re: gnome2.2 broken?

2003-06-21 Thread Giuseppe Sacco


Sabato, 21 Giu 2003, alle 21:39 Europe/Rome, Grzesiek Sedek ha scritto:



Hi,
I wonder if anyone expierienced problems with nautulitus and evolution
recently?
After upgrade on thursday nothing happened, but when I've rebooted my
ibook gnome spit out some errors (nautlitius cant be startet) all
gnome-applets are gone, and evolution is dead as well (that's on sid)
is it a problem with gtk2?


I had some problem with evolution (see http://bugs.debian.org/198278) 
from Sid but nothing related to gnome.


Bye,
Giuseppe



Re: No mouse on console

2003-06-21 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get a USB mouse working on a Powerbook G4
> on the console?

It's not on a Powerbook, but I have a USB mouse working fine on
the console of my PowerMac G4 (AGP Graphics). It's pretty simple.

> Output in /var/log/syslog says (as it seems for disconnecting and then
> reconnecting the mouse to the USB connector):
> 
> --
> Jun 21 18:48:51 debby kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2
> Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, 
> assigned device number 3
> Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: input4: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on 
> usb1:3.0
> ---

This is just the kernel drivers finding the device. Here's mine:

Jun 21 13:23:59 nene kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus2/1/4, 
assigned device number 87
Jun 21 13:23:59 nene kernel: input1: Kensington Kensington USB/PS2 Trackball on 
usb2:87.0

I have a slightly more complicated USB setup, but it's the same basic stuff.

> gpm 1.19.6-12 is installed

I have gpm 1.19.6-12.1, so yours should be recent enough.

> gpmconfig says:
> 
> Device: /dev/gpmdata
> Type: imps2
> Repeat_Type: raw
> 

This is most likely your problem. Mine says this:

Device: /dev/input/mice
Type: autops2
Repeat_Type: ms3

> I *think* I had it connected to /dev/psaux before, but I'm not sure of
> that ...
> So far, none of the settings I tried got the mouse up and running

Try changing the device to /dev/input/mice, which is the output of
all mouse-like devices controlled by the generic input layer (includes
both USB and ADB in 2.4.x). The device /dev/gpmdata is almost certainly
wrong. That's usually used to feed mouse events from gpm to XFree86 in
a slightly old-fashioned way.

> Strange:
> 
> At the end of gpmconfig I'm told by this routine that the
> mouse interface server : gpm
> is first stopped, then started, but all this without any error message.

I suspect it's being stupid about not giving any errors when it
fails due to having the wrong device file.

> Or, as another possibility to solve this:
> 
> Is the Debian-Version I'm running -- 3.0 r1, stable -- so broken,
> incomplete, or whatever, that it will make sense to upgrade to testing?
> 
> After all there are more things here that do not work.
> 
> Could be very well that all this and other mess here is due to my lack of
> experience with Debian ... but if the stuff is simply buggy then please
> someone let me know ...

I have testing on my G4, but stable should be fine for most stuff. In
fact, there are problems with testing. They're just different problems.

Brad Boyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



gnome2.2 broken?

2003-06-21 Thread Grzesiek Sedek

Hi,
I wonder if anyone expierienced problems with nautulitus and evolution
recently?
After upgrade on thursday nothing happened, but when I've rebooted my
ibook gnome spit out some errors (nautlitius cant be startet) all
gnome-applets are gone, and evolution is dead as well (that's on sid)
is it a problem with gtk2? 
Thanks for any help.
G.




Re: updated kernel problem

2003-06-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:10:13AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:18:31AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:04AM +0100, Joss Winn wrote:
> > > Sven,
> > > 
> > > I just grabbed your 2.4.20-4 pmac build and I've rebooted and it's fine.
> > 
> > :)))
> > 
> 
> Once you get that out of the way ...
> 
> As of over a year ago, the 2.2.x debian chrp powerpc kernel
> was apparently unbootable from floppy:

Mmm, notice that i only maintain the sid packages, Dan still handles the
older woody ones.

> In Re: "Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50"
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200204/msg01210.html

Ok, just curious, but you are clearly a chrp user, and i would like to
know what kernel you are using, and from what source you take it (self
compiled kernel, self built package, unofficial or official debian
package).

> Do you know if that image has been updated, and if possible
> could you substitute a better one?

I have no idea about this, but i could investigate. My chrp derivative
pegasos box has no floppy disk, so i cannot easily test it though.

But i will investigate, and later on, once i have familiarized me more
with the current status, i hope to build more kernel images that the
powerpc and powerpc-smp that are the ones built right now.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



No mouse on console

2003-06-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Has anyone managed to get a USB mouse working on a Powerbook G4
on the console?

If yes: How did you do it?

I have here a Logitech optical wheel mouse, and nothing so far
seems to get it running on the console.

Output in /var/log/syslog says (as it seems for disconnecting and then
reconnecting the mouse to the USB connector):

--
Jun 21 18:48:51 debby kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2
Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned 
device number 3
Jun 21 18:48:58 debby kernel: input4: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on 
usb1:3.0
---

gpm 1.19.6-12 is installed

gpmconfig says:

Device: /dev/gpmdata
Type: imps2
Repeat_Type: raw


I *think* I had it connected to /dev/psaux before, but I'm not sure of
that ...
So far, none of the settings I tried got the mouse up and running

Strange:

At the end of gpmconfig I'm told by this routine that the
mouse interface server : gpm
is first stopped, then started, but all this without any error message.

(Just once, IIRC, it said it could not see a gpm.pid (?) in some
directory, or something like that)

But when I do a
ps -C gpm

all I get is
--
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
--


Or, as another possibility to solve this:

Is the Debian-Version I'm running -- 3.0 r1, stable -- so broken,
incomplete, or whatever, that it will make sense to upgrade to testing?

After all there are more things here that do not work.

Could be very well that all this and other mess here is due to my lack of
experience with Debian ... but if the stuff is simply buggy then please
someone let me know ...

Thanks in anticipation.

Best Regards,
Wolfgang Pfeiffer
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Re: No jokes on Linux writers? [was: Re: konsole]

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:35:01PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Chris Tillman wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:06:21PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:40:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > >
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > > > That's why I often say: Coders often are good coders; but some of them
> > > > > can't talk to humans ...
> > > > >
> > > > > If we're lucky, Clive, this will be read by a programmer out there. 
> > > > > Or,
> > > > > even better, by his girl-friend .. :)
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe even a documentation weinie.
> > >
> > > Being not quite sure what you mean with "documentation weinie".
> > >
> > > But if my guess is right that you think that in the Holy Grails of Linux
> > > no one is making jokes about BigChief Linux and his Servants:
> 
> No, my guess was completely wrong ... and no: there are no "Holy Grails of
> Linux", BigChiefs, "Servants" and other dark figures here on the list
> trying to torture us ... :)
> 
> All that actually happened was that I used my keyboard before using my
> brains.
> 
> And yes:
> And as it seems I should be the person in need of a friendly woman clever
> enough to take me away from this keyboard before damaging everything that
> one single person can damage in a single life ... :)
> 
> > >
> > > Simply let me know. I'm learning fast, sometimes even without
> > > documentation.
> >
> > Since I work on documentation, I just meant maybe somebody (me?)
> 
> I realized much too late you didn't write about me  Thanks for
> clearing things up here before I was able to do ...
> 
> My apologies, Chris ..

no worries, I didn't take it wrong, I don't think anyone else did
either. We all know we're a bunch of social misfits :)

... girlfriend? now there's an idea ... yeah, maybe I'll get one
of those :)

Actually, I subscribe to a 'double your dating' mailing list which is
quite incredible. This guy has really got women figured out and the
mailing list is free (he sells an e-book and CD/DVDs).

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Re: New Linux Install advice?

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:13:58AM -0500, Jeramy Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> Jacob Tennant wrote:
> >I am looking at installing Linux on my PPC 7200/90 machine with soon to 
> >be 64megs of ram, 500MB HD with a cable modem connection.
> > 
> >First, is there any reason I should not use this machine? Its the only 
> >computer I have other than the family machine (WinXP).
> 
> 
> The 7200 had issues. Just for the heck of it once; I installed a cache 
> chip, 2 256MB dimms, a voodoo3 card, a scsi card, and a 100tx network 
> card in one. I think there were power issues causing instability (the 
> builtin power supply is wimpy and wasn't made with all that stuff in mind).
> 
> The internal scsi on this machine is 5MB/s. The onboard network chip 
> should be fine for cable modem internet. The graphics will be slow as 
> moses. It has no cache chip and installing one will really help the 
> performance. One other thing is kernel support for the processor. I am 
> not sure if the current kernel is stable on 601 or not.
> 
> It should be fine if you want a machine to lynx from if you don't have a 
> lot of money to try to upgrade it with.

Still, many people have installed Debian on this machine. It's no
powerhouse by today's standards.

The powermac archive kernel (2.2 series) works fine; it is a 601, but
it is a PCI mac, I think Jeramy was thinking about a NuBus kernel.

Do you have a MacOS system CD or floppies? It's somewhat desirable to
leave a minimal MacOS partition, so you can use BootX to try different
kernels and boot arguments easily. If you have a System CD, that's
easy; use Drive Setup to partition into one small partition (50-75M)
and the rest free space, install MacOS on the small one, then boot the
Debian installer either from BootX or floppy.

quik will also work as a boot loader if you want a totally-free
machine. But you don't have video access to OpenFirmware, so it's a
bit of a hassle if it doesn't work the first time, to figure out what
needs to change.

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Re: iMac USB keyboard LEDs

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:24:01AM -0800, Torben Brosten wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:46:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > I have an iMac running unstable with kernel 2.4.18 (though I think 2.2.20
> > had the same problem) and the keyboard LEDs are all wacked out.
> >
> > The "num lock" light reflects the inverse of the caps lock state (off=on,
> > on=off).
> >
> > The "caps lock" light is always on.
> >
> > There is no "scroll lock" light or key, but when I use setleds to toggle
> > scroll lock, it toggles the state of both the "num lock" and "caps lock"
> > LEDs.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?  A few google searches didn't turn up anything
> > interesting; it doesn't interefere with any functionality, but I'm sure 
> I'm
> > not the only one affected.
> > ...
> 
> A ppc BW mac here with an "Apple Pro Keyboard" (running woody stable 
> 2.4.18-newpmac) is showing the same symptoms. Thankfully, the keys seem to 
> work as expected when ignoring the lights.  The symptoms appear after 
> capslock is pressed once. Until then, neither of the lights are on.

On my iMac, pushing the caps lock key doesn't set the led either way;
but I get a spewed console message: usbkbd.c: led urb status -32 received

It's really gotten to be annoying. Does anyone know how to turn it off?

My kernel is 2.4.20-powerpc from the debian archive.

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Re: updated kernel problem

2003-06-21 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:18:31AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:04AM +0100, Joss Winn wrote:
> > Sven,
> > 
> > I just grabbed your 2.4.20-4 pmac build and I've rebooted and it's fine.
> 
> :)))
> 

Once you get that out of the way ...

As of over a year ago, the 2.2.x debian chrp powerpc kernel
was apparently unbootable from floppy:

In Re: "Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50"
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200204/msg01210.html

Do you know if that image has been updated, and if possible
could you substitute a better one?

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RE: KDE problem on startup

2003-06-21 Thread Vaughan, Curtis
Christophe's solution did not work.
To be more exact in my wording, KDE boots to the point where it says
"Initializing System Services".
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Curtis

-Original Message-
From: Christophe Courtois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE problem on startup


Le Samedi 21 Juin 2003 14:38, Curtis Vaughan a déclamé :
> where it's starting system something or other it hangs for a long time,
> then the startup screen disappears leaving just a light blue background
> and nonething else.

 Create another user, and see if you obtain the same result ; or disable 
temporarily your .kde/ directory (KDE will recreate it). You'll at least 
know if the problem is system-wide or in your user's configuration (the 
erase-and-reconfigure may be the quickest way to have a functional system 
back...).

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ailleurs, et d'autre part, totalement incompatible avec les autres 
applications du domaine. 



Re: No jokes on Linux writers? [was: Re: konsole]

2003-06-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Chris Tillman wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:06:21PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Chris Tillman wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:40:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > > > That's why I often say: Coders often are good coders; but some of them
> > > > can't talk to humans ...
> > > >
> > > > If we're lucky, Clive, this will be read by a programmer out there. Or,
> > > > even better, by his girl-friend .. :)
> > >
> > > Or maybe even a documentation weinie.
> >
> > Being not quite sure what you mean with "documentation weinie".
> >
> > But if my guess is right that you think that in the Holy Grails of Linux
> > no one is making jokes about BigChief Linux and his Servants:

No, my guess was completely wrong ... and no: there are no "Holy Grails of
Linux", BigChiefs, "Servants" and other dark figures here on the list
trying to torture us ... :)

All that actually happened was that I used my keyboard before using my
brains.

And yes:
And as it seems I should be the person in need of a friendly woman clever
enough to take me away from this keyboard before damaging everything that
one single person can damage in a single life ... :)

> >
> > Simply let me know. I'm learning fast, sometimes even without
> > documentation.
>
> Since I work on documentation, I just meant maybe somebody (me?)

I realized much too late you didn't write about me  Thanks for
clearing things up here before I was able to do ...

My apologies, Chris ..

Best Regards
Wolfgang


> would incorporate the answer into some so the next person would
> have a way to find out :)
>
> Specifically, the installer uses console-data to configure the
> keyboard but it's probably not well covered how to re-configure it.
>
>

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Re: iMac USB keyboard LEDs

2003-06-21 Thread Torben Brosten

On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:46:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> I have an iMac running unstable with kernel 2.4.18 (though I think 2.2.20
> had the same problem) and the keyboard LEDs are all wacked out.
>
> The "num lock" light reflects the inverse of the caps lock state (off=on,
> on=off).
>
> The "caps lock" light is always on.
>
> There is no "scroll lock" light or key, but when I use setleds to toggle
> scroll lock, it toggles the state of both the "num lock" and "caps lock"
> LEDs.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?  A few google searches didn't turn up anything
> interesting; it doesn't interefere with any functionality, but I'm sure I'm
> not the only one affected.
> ...

A ppc BW mac here with an "Apple Pro Keyboard" (running woody stable 
2.4.18-newpmac) is showing the same symptoms. Thankfully, the keys seem to work 
as expected when ignoring the lights.  The symptoms appear after capslock is 
pressed once. Until then, neither of the lights are on.




Re: 2.5 kernel sources?

2003-06-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 23:30, Matt Price wrote:
> 
> anyone know of a kernel source branch of 2.5 that currently compiles
> and mostly runs on powerpc?  I'm trying to figure out whether the
> newest ieee sources will work with my b&w, but can't get the
> linuxppc-2.5 sources (I rsync'ed them from source.mvista.com) to
> compile for me.

linuxppc-2.5 is the PPC 2.5 tree, I doubt you'll find anything better.
It usually built fine for me when I tried a while ago, maybe you need to
tweak your configuration a bit or fix some minor bugs. Post problems to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .


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Software libre enthusiast  \ http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer



Re: X aceleration

2003-06-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 19:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 21:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On 19 Jun 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 06:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a tibook 15" with ati9000m, i instaled 
> > > > > ~$ apt-get install x-window-system-core x-window-system
> > > > > ~$ apt-get install drm-trunk-module-src xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk 
> > > > > xlibmesa3-dri-trunk
> > > > > 
> > > > > ~$ dpkg -i drm-trunk-module-*.deb
> > > > > 
> > > > > and in /etc/modutils/drm
> > > > > 
> > > > > pre-install radeon modprobe agpgart
> > > > > 
> > > > > but if i try to play tuxracer it is realy slow.
> > > > 
> > > > If /var/log/XFree86.0.log show direct rendering to be disabled, it
> > > > should show the reason as well. Otherwise,
> > > > 
> > > > LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
> > > > 
> > > > may give a hint.
> > > > 
> > > You were right, just can't load radeon module, i do it by hand (insmod 
> > > radeon) and it work fine.
> > 
> > Look into what's wrong with modprobe radeon then, as that's what the X
> > server uses.
> > 
> $modprobe radeon
> modprobe: Can't locate module agpart
> modprobe: pre-install radeon failed
> modprobe: insmod radeon failed

Enable CONFIG_AGP and CONFIG_AGP_UNINORTH in your kernel configuration
(and rebuild the DRM as well) or remove the offending line in
/etc/modutils/drm .


> > > Now tuxracer runs great, the problem now is billard-gl :-)
> > 
> > What's the problem with it? There's also foobillard, only as of sarge
> > though.
> > 
> It's very slow.

The lack of AGP GART might explain that.


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Re: updated kernel problem

2003-06-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:04AM +0100, Joss Winn wrote:
> Sven,
> 
> I just grabbed your 2.4.20-4 pmac build and I've rebooted and it's fine.

:)))

> Two things that seem different from previous kernel upgrades (I
> could just have missed these before):
> 
> It didn't automatically create the symbolic link from /vmlinux ->
> /boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-powerpc

Because you changed the symlink by hand, and then dpkg noticed that and
didn't do it ?

Try purging the package, downgrading to the -2 package, and then
upgrading to -4, and tell me what happened to the symlink then, ideally
you could also use script to send me a full log of what happened. just
type script /tmp/powerpc.log before and exit afterward, and send me the
/tmp/powerpc.log file.

> It left my old link as it was and I made the changes by hand.
> 
> and I've also found this in /boot/ for the first time:
> 
> vmlinux.coff-2.4.20-powerpc
>
> What is it?

Pre-yaboot stuff needed coff kernels. coff is i think the executable
format of older macs or something such, i don't really know, but will
investigate.

> Anyway, thanks for correcting the problem so quickly.

No problem, i created the mess for others, so i should fix it.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: updated kernel problem

2003-06-21 Thread Joss Winn
Sven,

I just grabbed your 2.4.20-4 pmac build and I've rebooted and it's fine.

Two things that seem different from previous kernel upgrades (I
could just have missed these before):

It didn't automatically create the symbolic link from /vmlinux ->
/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-powerpc

It left my old link as it was and I made the changes by hand.

and I've also found this in /boot/ for the first time:

vmlinux.coff-2.4.20-powerpc

What is it?

Anyway, thanks for correcting the problem so quickly.

Joss

On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 05:44:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 07:23:06PM +0100, Joss Winn wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Has anyone else noticed that an upgrade of apt sources on 19/06/03
> > introduced a new kernel vmlinuz-2.4.20-powerpc.  This doesn't boot
> > on my ppc sid system and the only way I could think of to make my
> > iMac bootable was to start from the install CDs and install the
> > 2.4.18 kernel.
> > 
> > The new kernel looks a lot smaller than the default woody one, too:
> > 
> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 3490 Jun 20 18:32 
> > vmlinux-2.4.18-newpmac
> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 1221 Jun 19 12:14 
> > vmlinuz-2.4.20-powerpc
> > 
> > I've looked in the uk debain ftp repository and I can't see a 2.4.20
> > ppc kernel image there at all.
> > 
> > Can anyone explain this?
> 
> Fixed packages can be fount at :
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~luther/powerpc
> 
> or at the apt source, once i have finished uploading and created the
> packages file :
> 
> deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/powerpc ./
> 
> Could someone with pmac hardware test them and confirm that they work
> before i upload ?
> 
> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther
> 
> 
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Re: New Linux Install advice?

2003-06-21 Thread Jeramy Smith



Jacob Tennant wrote:
I am looking at installing Linux on my PPC 7200/90 machine with soon to 
be 64megs of ram, 500MB HD with a cable modem connection.
 
First, is there any reason I should not use this machine? Its the only 
computer I have other than the family machine (WinXP).



The 7200 had issues. Just for the heck of it once; I installed a cache 
chip, 2 256MB dimms, a voodoo3 card, a scsi card, and a 100tx network 
card in one. I think there were power issues causing instability (the 
builtin power supply is wimpy and wasn't made with all that stuff in mind).


The internal scsi on this machine is 5MB/s. The onboard network chip 
should be fine for cable modem internet. The graphics will be slow as 
moses. It has no cache chip and installing one will really help the 
performance. One other thing is kernel support for the processor. I am 
not sure if the current kernel is stable on 601 or not.


It should be fine if you want a machine to lynx from if you don't have a 
lot of money to try to upgrade it with.




New Linux Install advice?

2003-06-21 Thread Jacob Tennant



I am looking at installing Linux on my PPC 7200/90 
machine with soon to be 64megs of ram, 500MB HD with a cable modem 
connection.
 
First, is there any reason I should not use this 
machine? Its the only computer I have other than the family machine 
(WinXP).
 
Second, before I start can anyone tell me of any 
good books on running Linux on a Mac system? NO MAC OS installed.
 
Third, any other advice would be greatly 
appreciated
 
Thank you in advance for any help you may 
offer...
 
Jacob Tennant  K8JWT (Ham Radio 
Operator)


KDE problem on startup

2003-06-21 Thread Curtis Vaughan
When KDE is starting, it goes through like 5 stages represented by 
icons. Unfortunately, I can't remember them all but on the second one, 
where it's starting system something or other it hangs for a long time, 
then the startup screen disappears leaving just a light blue background 
and nonething else.


What could be wrong?

I'm using Debian stable on a PowerPC.  It's been working fine for almost 
a year now.


Curtis



Re: X aceleration

2003-06-21 Thread emorfin
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, David Röhr wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 [12:43],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > On 20 Jun 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > 
> > > Look into what's wrong with modprobe radeon then, as that's what the X
> > > server uses.
> >  
> > $modprobe radeon
> > modprobe: Can't locate module agpart
> > modprobe: pre-install radeon failed
> > modprobe: insmod radeon failed
> 
> The module is agpgart not agpart.
>
There are no agpgart src module in 2.4.20-benh10

all i have about agpgart:

/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/.agpgart_be.o.flags
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/.agpgart_fe.o.flags
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_be.c
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_be.o
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_fe.c
/usr/src/benh-kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_fe.o
/usr/src/benh-kernel/include/linux/agpgart.h
/usr/src/benh-kernel/include/linux/modules/agpgart_be.stamp
/usr/src/benh-kernel/include/linux/modules/agpgart_be.ver
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.20/include/linux/agpgart.h

 and 

/usr/src/benh-kern10/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_be.c
/usr/src/benh-kern10/drivers/char/agp/agpgart_fe.c
/usr/src/benh-kern10/include/linux/agpgart.h

how can i get agpgart.o? what option i need to turn on in .config file in 
benh10? or is no longer needed?