Re: Debian mentioned on Ethiscore
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:17:21 -, "Lindsay Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Dear Debian, I am pleased to inform you that the Debian website was > recently included as a link in a report on Computers on our new > Ethiscore website, which can be found at www.ethiscore.org We would be > keen for you to tell your supporters about Ethical Consumer, and > include a reciprocal link on your site to www.ethiscore.org For those interested, a direct link to the article is: http://www.ethiscore.org/info.aspx?info=reports/full/computers (surely a publication that is dedicated to ethics, and talks about Free software, isn't going to mind deep linking...) and Debian is mentioned in the sidebar "Co-operation versus capitalism - an introduction to Free software." Nice to see that they use Free instead of Open Source (and define it as "pertain[ing] to freedom, not price"). The downside, though, is that their site uses ASP.NET, and requires cookies to work properly. And as MJ points out, isn't very accessible. -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is volatile dead?
Hi MJ, you might have seen my post[1] on debian-www this afternoon. This a first draft how the new debian-volatile web page could look like. I know that not all information is yet included, but i think moving debian-volatile webpages to gluck makes it easier for other persons to help with webpages. As i am really not a good web page writer i would appreciate help here very much. Greetings Martin [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2005/11/msg00226.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian mentioned on Ethiscore
[copy to debian-project to let everyone see what I'm doing.] "Lindsay Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am pleased to inform you that the Debian website was recently included as a > link in a > report on Computers on our new Ethiscore website, which can be found at > www.ethiscore.org > We would be keen for you to tell your supporters about Ethical Consumer, and > include > a reciprocal link on your site [...] I'll cc this to the keeper of http://www.debian.org/News/press/ I hope he will consider adding a link to your article. Thank you for including Debian. However, I can't see the article on your site. I have emailed ecis about access problems with corporatecritic in the past, but no-one answered if I recall correctly. Does ecis plan to follow the W3C's web content accessibility guidelines soon? I'm sure you remember that concern for community is a cooperative principle - ignoring accessibility locks out a section of our community. Thank you for your attention. I await your reply with interest. Sincerely, -- MJ Ray - personal email, see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Work: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ irc.oftc.net/slef Jabber/SIP ask -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian mentioned on Ethiscore
Dear Debian, I am pleased to inform you that the Debian website was recently included as a link in a report on Computers on our new Ethiscore website, which can be found at www.ethiscore.org We would be keen for you to tell your supporters about Ethical Consumer, and include a reciprocal link on your site to www.ethiscore.org Ethical Consumer is an independent lifestyle magazine, with a readership of 20,000, that informs consumers about everything from the social and environmental impacts of a product to the ethical records of the companies that make it. Complex issues are simplified with easy-to-use tables that show important facts at-a-glance. I look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes, Lindsay Whalen, Ethical Consumer magazine, 0161 226 2929. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is volatile dead?
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How about joining the team? debian-volatile would surely do better, if > more persons would be involved in the team process. Why does it allways > need Andi or me to answer a mail on the mailing lists? Possibly because http://volatile.debian.net/ doesn't suggest help is wanted or needed and doesn't make it easy to join in. A key need for online writing is to make it really clear if you want something, because people skim-read a lot. As someone coming to volatile cold, my first questions are: 1. what is it? 2. how do I use it? 3. how is it run? The first question can be dealt with by a summary and the announcement. There is a summary on the page, but it's not very direct. It took me two reads to feel I understood. I suggest editing it to: The volatile archive is a place for fast-changing packages like spam filtering and virus scanning, and even updated virus patterns, which can't really last for the full life of a stable release. The main aim is to allow sysadmins to update their systems in a nice, consistent way without getting the drawbacks of using unstable, even for a few selected packages. I vaguely remember an announcement of volatile: that would be an obvious next thing to link from there. I searched and found two at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/01/msg00012.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00016.html but there's no link from volatile's own page (or list archive to the first one?) as far as I can see. Interestingly, neither announcement looks like the project start and neither invites help beyond comments. Is there another earlier one? I also found talk slides at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/linuxtag2005debianday/martin_zobelhelas-the_volatile_archive.pdf that and any related paper would be helpful links too. The second question (how do I use it) is answered in the mirror list for users - that link could be clearer. The answer for mirror owners is done well. I'm not sure how to use it as a developer, though. Where's that answered? Link it in, please. How much use is it getting? How are most users learning how to use it? Are some questions asked frequently? Some of the mechanics of how it is run (my third question) are on that page, but the people aren't named, nor is what help is wanted - that's where we came in... Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray - personal email, see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Work: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ irc.oftc.net/slef Jabber/SIP ask -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is volatile dead?
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 13.15, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: [long delays in volatile] > How about joining the team? debian-volatile would surely do better, if > more persons would be involved in the team process. Why does it allways > need Andi or me to answer a mail on the mailing lists? As stated, I'm not overly interested in volatile - I think there'd be a high risk of me silently disappearing after a few weeks if I'd offer help on this project, sorry. I just saw that it was discussed quite a bit when it was introduced, and evlolved far enough to get mentioned in the release notes, so I got the impression that it was a well-established project. So I was surprised to see that people have had to wait for several weeks for a reply. Ok, after having complained about the work that doesn't get done promptly enough: thanks for the work you (== the whole volatile team - is there really only you and aba?) *do*. volatile certainly is a good idea and deserves more attention. cheers -- vbi -- Could this mail be a fake? (Answer: No! - http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro) pgp4aKrtIm6v9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is volatile dead?
Hi Adrian, On Monday, 21 Nov 2005, you wrote: > On Monday 21 November 2005 10.15, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Adrian von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051121 08:32]: > > > * I've not received an answer to my announcement on the d-v mailing > > > list in a week, and investigation of the last three messages in the > > > list archive (re: spamassassin and f-prot-installer) indicate that > > > receiving no comments is nothing unusual. > > > You mean, if there is a week where people are only available for > > emergency services, an service is "officially dead"? Sorry, I disagree. > > yes, I have only waited a week, and I agree with you that people can be very > busy for one week and not able to answer mail. But a week is not the > impression I get: [...] > > As I said, I'm not involved with volatile at all, and getting no answer for > a week and, on investigating, finding that the relevant mailing list is > very low-traffic with the latest messages being two other people > complaining about delays of a month, does not give me a good impression. > > If this is a temporary situation, all the better. How about joining the team? debian-volatile would surely do better, if more persons would be involved in the team process. Why does it allways need Andi or me to answer a mail on the mailing lists? Greetings Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
