Re: wiki.debian.org: Who's maintaining it
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/21/2006 08:45 AM, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 20 April 2006 08:29, Martin Schulze wrote: > >>Technically the wiki is operated by debian-admin. For serious >>problems, please drop debian-admin a note. Patches in coordination >>with the python moin wiki maintainer are welcome. Patches that will be >>overwritten when a new version gets installed are problematic, though. > > Thanks, but who is coordinating the wiki as a whole? > Someone should take responsibility for dealing with questions/issues with > the wiki in general, not only its technical side. Frans, -project, IMHO, choosing #2 (create a pseudo package) sounds like the way to go. But I believe we should join web efforts, along with the suggestion of Kevin Mark: "they are 2 different web sites, have different software running on them, they should have distinct pseudo package name aka #2. Would it make sense to create a single list of WWW, wiki and any other possible websites that are officially part of debian? if so, then I guess maybe call it 'debian-websites' and have any www and wiki bugs go there?" -- Kevin Mark IMHO, having some kind of web team to get all the web related stuff would be the way to go. We could have different pseudo-packages but we have only one "umbrella" list to take care of very related subjects. I don't know which is the best move: - Consider the -www the official web maillist * Have to check with actual subscribers if they want that - Create a new list (-web or -websites) * Need to check how to interact with -www and possible future web related stuff. I would like to see the first choice, expanding the audience of - -www to take care of all web stuff, creating pseudo-packages and creating some information to know whom to contact according to the situation. A lot of people contact -www when packages.d.o has problems, we could also integrate bugs.d.o and other Debian websites. :) Hope it helps, kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) "Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEWrmnCjAO0JDlykYRAmKfAJ42jocgDwJyFkOK0prjJ8RqW1HtWQCeOeIo e1SO8JGOv+Rb2yJHIbRgrGg= =hJRp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 10:38:11PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 03:42:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:15AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:06:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > btw, it seems you violated your `one mail per thread' policy, at least > as far as this thread being on -project is concerned. Indeed. My one-email-per-day-per-thread ipolicy is suspended until this issue is solved, at least for question concerning this issue :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 03:42:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:15AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:06:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: btw, it seems you violated your `one mail per thread' policy, at least as far as this thread being on -project is concerned. Michael -- for example, there is only one correct way to blank a screen, and look at the number of screensavers people think it's cool, but apparently they have not seen reservoir dogs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:15AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:06:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:45:46PM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: > > > Sven Luther wrote on 01/05/2006 08:21: > > > > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:20:09AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > > > > > >>The reason that I did not inform you was because things were already > > > >>very > > > >>heated at the moment and because you were at that time still very > > > >>concerned about the welfare of your mother. I thought it was better not > > > >>to add to that. > > > > > > > > And what have you gained ? What did you expect would happen once i > > > > noticed ? > > > > > > He thought he would gain not adding more pressure to you. He was wrong > > > and he apologized for that. Stop picking on him, please. > > > > My believe is that their intentions was to get ride of me, and by > > doing so in one of the worst possible moment of my live, ... > > Please, Sven. > > The first step in getting along with people is 'assume they have the > best intentions, until proven otherwise.' In this case, actions speak louder than words. So, i await the restoration of the svn commit rights, but until then, it is clear that they want to get ride of me. The excuses they have put (that i would abuse the svn commit rights) are bordering on the insulting, and the fact they did it while i was at the sickbed of my dying mother show a complete lack of human decency. So, they may say many things, but it is actions that count. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and professional certifications
(No need to CC me =)) Em Ter, 2006-05-02 às 11:10 +0200, Wouter Verhelst escreveu: > > I don't see it this way, and I personally do not support Professional > > Certification, be it LPI or any other. I would not like to see Debian > > supporting them either. > > Why? > > Personally, I'm not convinced of the use of certifications either, and > much prefer to go by references. However, they have their use, as they > allow for some guarantee that a given person at least has an > understanding of how the system works -- although I'll agree that people Not really. It guarantees, most of the time, that someone has spent some time reading a manual and knows some stuff by heart. I know lots of "certified" people to which I'd hate to trust even the administration of my mom's computer. Certification is simply not able to guarantee a person is good enough on working with the system, just that she is good enough on "recording" stuff on her brain. > with references but no certifications are usually preferable over people > with certifications but no references. Yep. See you! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://people.debian.org/~kov/ signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente
Debian I18N from a Transdict POV [was: Re: Google summer of code]
On 5/3/06, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:36:52PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Reviewing the discussions that happened on the debian-i18n list > recently would certainly be a good idea. Specially the paper that we wrote for Debconf6, which details the current infrastructure. It's currently available at http://people.debian.org/~jfs/debconf6/ I added that project to the wiki and the main idea I had is to work on developing (and implementing?) something that would tie up many of the loose ends we currently have in Debian's i18n/l10n. Such as translation statistics (of different elements, from program's PO to debconf note to the d-i), and translation robots (some teams have those in place now). I will reparse this from a transdict POV. Currently my tests regarding it (installation, usability) are on halt, but it has proven its viablity for quite some time within the Croatian translation team. I will restart these tests uring this weekend. We would like to be able to tie that up with some generic interface already available (like Pootle) but someone needs to assess if: - it would be viable for Debian i18n/l10n work (since not all the i18n/l10n sources are PO-based and I believe those frameworks rely heavily on it) Transdict supports other formats than PO. OO, Mozilla and others were translated with it. - it could be improved to have web and e-mail based interfaces useful for both translators and reviewers Web inteface avialable, mail interface would have to be implemented - it could be improved to have translation memories that could be shared through the different things that are translated in Debian (from documentation to PO files to package descriptions) Has translation memory and supports reviewers. As Christian said, we don't have the slightest idea what would fit our needs and how it could be engineered. If you want to tackle that idea and turn it into substance you are welcome aboard! I will keep everybody informed on this matter while I am working on it. Currently: - I have installed all the necessary dependencies (one was missing from Debian, but dh-make-perl came to the rescue ;-) - I have kept notes of the changes needed from a Debian POV - I am trying to set up the needed configurations. This has costed me about 3 days until now. I expect that I will manage to have it running and set up after 2 or three more days of actual work. I will be working on the debianization after I have tested a installation by hand. Will keep you posted. -- Regards, EddyP = "Imagination is more important than knowledge" A.Einstein
Re: usable console jabber-clients? (was: irc.debian.org)
On Wed, 03 May 2006 17:02:40 +0200, Cord Beermann wrote: > Name them please, maybe i missed them. I use every day emacs-jabber (superb, but unfo not in Debian), also I like very much imcom (unfo, removed recently from Debian). Others like freetalk and cabber have still a long way to go. Some console IM clients such as centericq also have Jabber support, although I haven't tried them. Among the GUI clients the best in respect to GC is Gajim, IMO. -- Yavor Doganov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
