Re: Login Problem
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:54:34PM -0500, joseph irvin wrote: > >After I login, the command line reads [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > >What do I do next? thanks! >Rev. Joseph H. Irvin Hello new user of Debian, to paraphrase an other OS, "what do you want to do today?". It seems you have installed the basic parts of the Debian Gnu/Linux operating system. This is a good start. You can add application to browse the web, compose email, and other fun and useful things. Some folks at this point also want to add X windows and some graphical user interface like KDE or GNOME. You have sent your message to the 'debian-project' mailing list which is to discuss things related to the Debian project and not to specific users requests such as yours. You should subscribe to the Debian-user list and ask your question there as that is the proper forum. If you provide that forum with more detailed specifications as to what you need to do, we shall attempt to assist you in that endevor. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Login Problem
After I login, the command line reads [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ What do I do next? thanks! Rev. Joseph H. Irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian in the Federal Government
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:09:05PM -0500, Karl R. Harger wrote: > I enjoy Debian. It's easy to work with, easy to install, easy to modify and is > suitable for most of my needs. > In Government contracting, Linux has seen greater use. More often, as an OS > "underneath" of Oracle, but for other purposes as well. > As a systems administrator, far away from the decision makers and their > utmost concern of the bottom line, I find that I am generally > removed from the process of selecting software. > In any event, I wish that I had more control, and was permitted to run > Debian on my cubicle desktop. > Based on my interactions with people who make or influence the decision of what software to buy for particular things, it is all about the "warm fuzzy feeling" for the higher-ups. That is, I have seen places in the government that are nearly all RHEL for servers *and* workstations. There is custom software used by the government that only runs on Linux. I once asked someone at one of these places why they don't use something like CentOS or Debian. The response that I got was something to do with having someone to hold accountable outside the organization, someone to call and yell at when things go wrong and with the idea being ingrained into everyone that software must be licensed. Of course, at most of these places you will find that everyone has the trial version of Winzip, a JRE and Adobe reader on their windows desktops. Then again, I have seen places where the admins were really sharp and managed to convince management that RHEL was a waste of money for them and they are all Fedora (not something I would do) and CentOS. Unfortunately, I don't know of any places within the government, no matter how Linux-friendly, that use Debian unless it is "hidden" as the underpinnings of something purchased from a contractor or reseller or in an embedded device. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Debian in the Federal Government
I enjoy Debian. It's easy to work with, easy to install, easy to modify and is suitable for most of my needs. In Government contracting, Linux has seen greater use. More often, as an OS "underneath" of Oracle, but for other purposes as well. As a systems administrator, far away from the decision makers and their utmost concern of the bottom line, I find that I am generally removed from the process of selecting software. In any event, I wish that I had more control, and was permitted to run Debian on my cubicle desktop. Regards, Karl Harger -- Karl R. Harger Systems Engineering (240) 426-9841 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help
On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 16:33 -0700, RJ Gillis wrote: > Hopefully you can forward this to the correct party; everyone I've tried gets > my message returned stating: "you are not subscribed to this list". Yet, I > cannot find a way to subscribe, nor do I wish to. Thanks- RJ > > > Hi, I am hoping you can help me. I recently had to use 'safe mode' and > when rebooting, was offer the choice of 'windows' or 'debian installer'. > I have never seen or heard of debian before and no one else uses my pc, > so the question is; how did this get on my pc? I cruised your site and I > know it's an OS, but not how it got here. The only hardware changes I've > made recently are a new monitor and graphics card; neither disc includes > debian on it. Any clues? It sure is a mystery to me. > Thanks- RJ > > Are you sure you don't have geeky friend's messing with you, trying to have you use Debian (Linux)? I can't say for sure how the Debian Installer got onto your computer, but it may have to do with the Debian Windows Installer project, check www.goodbye-windows.com, which basically loads the Debian OS installer from within MS Windows. It's neat... if you want it. As far as I know, no one has forced this on anyone unwilling. (Though there would be irony in forcing people to use a secure OS via a security hole in an insecure OS) To me this sounds like your opportunity to try out Debian GNU/Linux. If you're not interested, just select to load Windows. Check out here for how to fix your boot.ini file and go to Windows automatically when your PC boots up: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 If you've accidentally stumbled upon Linux, why not give it a shot? I'll tell you one thing: you won't not know when you've installed a second operating system! (I've CC-ed to what I think might be the correct mailing lists for such a topic. If you reply, keep please keep these addresses in the CC field) -- Matthew K Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What do (some of) our users await from us?
A few of us (indeed, the people responsible for the various sessions held last year in Extremadura in 2006) have attended the 3rd Free Software World Conference in Badajoz, Spain, from Feb. 7th to 9th.[1] Among the various sessions I personnally attended, one was dedicated to Spanish Linux distributions and turned out to be very interesting to listen. In that sesison, people responsible for various local Linux-based distributions came in and presented their distribution. This was indeed all about works funded by the various regional governments of the spanish regions: - Linex from the Region of Extremadura [2] - Max from the Autonomous community of Madrid council of education [3] - Lliurex from the region of Valencia (Generalitat valienciana) [4] - Guadalinux from the region of Andalucia [5] - Molinux from the region of Castilla-La Mancha [6] *All* of these distribution are indeed "Debian Inside" as all are Debian(4) or Ubuntu(1) based. This probably gives everybody a good idea of the user base we have in Spain (for instance, the region of Extremadura has now deployed about 80,000 workstations equipped with Linexeven though all others have a noticeably smaller user base). The most interesting part, and the one I wanted to share with you as soon as possible comes from a question I asked to the various people presenting their work, at then end of the session: "What do *you* think that *we*, Debian project, could do to make your work easier?" (the subliminal question could have also been "and not choose to base you work on something else than genuine Debian") The answers were particularly clear, indeed. Let's share: - Stability. Large-scale deployments in non-technical environments do not really expect bleeding-edge software and certainly not too quickly changing behaviour. Knut Yrvin, who was attendign too, rephrased this, from the Skolelinux experience, as "if you change the *location* of an icon on the desktop of a classroom machine, you'll get the teacher lost and lose his/her adhesion". - Release predictability All these projects are funded by public entities. The development of these derived works is based on the work of their employees and uses their budgets. Some of these budgets are related to political constraints. This gives time constraints As an informal poll, having an etch release announced in December 2006 and delayed until March 2007 seems fairly acceptable to most of them while the sarge release process has been a nightmare for some of them (which is *confirmed* by Linex developers) A 2-year release cycle is considered as pretty well adapted. - Updated kernels for the stable release The reason is pretty much obvious: support for the new hardware that pops up constantly. Most do not have big control on the nature of the hardware and basing the choice of suppliers for an entire region or country on the fact that the hardware is supported by the satble Debian release is anything but possible. Most of them use backported and more recent kernels but all of those doing this would highly prefer the well-known quality of Deian work. Having an update for stable, with a more recent kernel, happening every 9-10 months is what is judged as a good compromise. All this could help us all to discuss the release goals for lenny when the time for this will come, but I wanted to share it without forgetting. [1] http://www.freesoftwareworldconference.com/en/ [2] http://www.linex.org/ [3] http://www.educa.madrid.org/web/madrid_linux/ [4] http://www.lliurex.net/ [5] http://www.guadalinex.org/ [6] http://www.molinux.info/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 3.1r4
also sprach Wayne Tempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.02.10.1519 +]: > I was recently browsing on your website. I was interested in > trying out your product. I want to download the i386 version of > your software. My question is how many iso files do I need to > install the OS? I see that there are binary files numbered 1-10. > Do I need to download all 10 iso files? Thank You for your time. The first ISO should be enough. I suggest you don't install 3.1r4 but 4.0, which is not yet released, but it's already frozen. If you have a broadband connection, you can even just use netinst or businesscard images. Or you can get the first of the full ISOs: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc1/i386/iso-cd Do read the errata: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems obviously i was either onto something, or on something. -- larry wall on the creation of perl signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Debian 3.1r4
Hello, I was recently browsing on your website. I was interested in trying out your product. I want to download the i386 version of your software. My question is how many iso files do I need to install the OS? I see that there are binary files numbered 1-10. Do I need to download all 10 iso files? Thank You for your time.
Re: Debian logos and trademarks
* Bastian Venthur: > See what I mean? Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but isn't > that a contradiction? FWIW, I agree there is an apparent contradiction. In German legalese, it's called "venire contra factum proprium" and can it make it significantly harder (or even impossible) to successfully sue someone who disagrees with you how the conflict should be resolved. We shouldn't pamper over our internal conflict on this matter by adopting a highly ambiguous position. Ambiguity is a common mode of conflict resolution, but it comes back to haunt you sooner or later. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
