Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:18:15PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> I like the planet-kde approach to microblogging.
> It is in a seperate box on planet and not part of the main rss feed.

Sounds like the most reasonable approach.

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Rafal Czlonka
Paul Wise wrote:
> Or pluto.debian.org, not quite a planet, not quite a moon.

Good one ;^) I like it!

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, John H. Robinson, IV  wrote:
> Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in
>> microplanet.debian.org ?
>
> moon.debian.org
>
> Or, perhaps, dwarfplanet.debian.org

Or pluto.debian.org, not quite a planet, not quite a moon.

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in
> microplanet.debian.org ?

moon.debian.org

Or, perhaps, dwarfplanet.debian.org

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07-04-2009 20:03, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 07 avril 2009 à 21:58 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit :
>> I think having a very limited amount of tweets from people that do not
>> write long blog posts is ok, though if it's not appreciated I'll remove
>> my feed.
> 
> Conceptually it’s not a bother, but it’s clear to me that Planet is not
> meant to handle such feeds correctly.
> 
> Either Planet should be made to display them better, or another
> aggregation channel could be setup for microblogging.

There is already debianproject both in identi.ca and twitter
that would work as something like a "microblogging planet"
and of course there is twitter.debian.net (which seems to not
be proper feeding identi.ca for a few days now).

I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in
microplanet.debian.org ?

:-)

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> > These messages have already started to annoy me as
> > a) there are relatively a lot of them
>
> There are only a few per day maximum from me. If there were more that
> reached you today it's probably because it contained the whole feed up
> to now.

I ignored the initial dump due to the addition of the feed of course.
I'm mainly talking about the two you posted after you added the feed: 
19:51 and 19:53. If that's the kind of thing we can expect, I really 
think it's inappropriate.

Planet would very soon become totally unreadable if everyone (or even just 
a few active people) would start microblogging for e.g. ever package 
upload or he does. And that _is_ the level at which you are doing your 
microblogging.

I suggest you remove the feed until there is some kind of proper support 
specifically for microblogging as suggested in other replies.

TIA,
FJP


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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 07 avril 2009 à 21:58 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit :
> I think having a very limited amount of tweets from people that do not
> write long blog posts is ok, though if it's not appreciated I'll remove
> my feed.

Conceptually it’s not a bother, but it’s clear to me that Planet is not
meant to handle such feeds correctly.

Either Planet should be made to display them better, or another
aggregation channel could be setup for microblogging.

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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> Well I don't intend to tweet extensively, but only as a replacement for
> real blogging as I'm not up to writing long blog posts.
> 
> > Luk: what do you think yourself?
> 
> I think having a very limited amount of tweets from people that do not
> write long blog posts is ok, though if it's not appreciated I'll remove
> my feed.

Maybe it makes sense to enhance planet to collapse microblogging feeds
into at most one item per day via some special-handling?


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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-07, Frans Pop  wrote:
[microblogging on planet]
> What do others think?


I like the planet-kde approach to microblogging.
It is in a seperate box on planet and not part of the main rss feed.

/Sune

> Cheers,
>=46JP
>
> Some examples:
> http://identi.ca/notice/3281464
> http://identi.ca/notice/3281436
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Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Luk Claes
Frans Pop wrote:
> (Luk BCCed to make sure he sees the thread.)

No need, I read -project.

> It appears that today either Luk himself or someone else added a "Status" 
> feed to planet.d.o with one-liner info messages about what Luk's up to.

I did that.

> These messages have already started to annoy me as
> a) there are relatively a lot of them

There are only a few per day maximum from me. If there were more that
reached you today it's probably because it contained the whole feed up
to now.

> b) they don't really provide any information, or at least no context
> c) they are very simply not blog posts

They are indeed no genuine blog posts, it are microblogging posts.

> Although sending out such messages may be interesting to some, I also do 
> not think they can be a replacement for proper announcements of changes 
> in services or whatever. We have proper, official communication channels 
> for that. (But that may not be the intention anyway.)

They are not meant as proper announcements as there should not be any
proper announcement on a blog (unless it's a copy of something on the
lists) IMHO.

> Although I don't use Twitter myself, I understand that's a service that 
> has been set up for such messages.

I don't use Twitter btw as that is closed and the company behind it
decides whatever it wants, I use an open variant called identi.ca

> Personally I'd like to see planet.d.o remain a pure blog aggregator. If 
> people want to start a Debian twit service/channel/whatever, that's of 
> course fine, but let's not mix dissimilar things in one service.

Well I don't intend to tweet extensively, but only as a replacement for
real blogging as I'm not up to writing long blog posts.

> Luk: what do you think yourself?

I think having a very limited amount of tweets from people that do not
write long blog posts is ok, though if it's not appreciated I'll remove
my feed.

Cheers

Luk


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Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
(Luk BCCed to make sure he sees the thread.)

It appears that today either Luk himself or someone else added a "Status" 
feed to planet.d.o with one-liner info messages about what Luk's up to.

These messages have already started to annoy me as
a) there are relatively a lot of them
b) they don't really provide any information, or at least no context
c) they are very simply not blog posts

Although sending out such messages may be interesting to some, I also do 
not think they can be a replacement for proper announcements of changes 
in services or whatever. We have proper, official communication channels 
for that. (But that may not be the intention anyway.)

Although I don't use Twitter myself, I understand that's a service that 
has been set up for such messages.
Personally I'd like to see planet.d.o remain a pure blog aggregator. If 
people want to start a Debian twit service/channel/whatever, that's of 
course fine, but let's not mix dissimilar things in one service.

Luk: what do you think yourself?

What do others think?

Cheers,
FJP

Some examples:
http://identi.ca/notice/3281464
http://identi.ca/notice/3281436


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