Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> I'm working on a cronjob already which is able to read the data from the NM
>> database and will send out such mails to -project. It will rely on the fact 
>> that
>> new DDs should receive an account on merkel.
> 
> Why dont you just use ldap and not rely on something unstable like the
> assumption that nm.d.o is always on a host that has all users?

1. I'm too lazy to write my own code and wait for the rewrite of ud-ldap.
2. ldap was too often not available due to network problems. I really want to
avoid it as long as there is a chance that I have to investigate manually why it
failed again.


-- 
 Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
 GPG Fingerprints: 06C8 C9A2 EAAD E37E 5B2C BE93 067A AD04 C93B FF79
   ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Joerg Jaspert

> I'm working on a cronjob already which is able to read the data from the NM
> database and will send out such mails to -project. It will rely on the fact 
> that
> new DDs should receive an account on merkel.

Why dont you just use ldap and not rely on something unstable like the
assumption that nm.d.o is always on a host that has all users?

-- 
bye, Joerg
> I tried to make my own judgements all the time. And that involves
> reading the fscking graphviz license in full many times!


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Bernd Zeimetz said:
>> Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
 Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in
 these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks anyway...) that it
 doesn't register at all with me.
>>> Would it be enough to just have a special automated mail
>>> congratulating new developers on -newmaint (or modify the subject of
>>> this mail to congratulate them?)
>> I'd be happy to modify the cronjob to send such mails to -project, if the
>> interest is large enough. Does anybody want to come up with a proper wording?
> 
> When we (DSA) add an account with the ud-ldap tools, it already sends an
> automated email to the new DD.  It could also potentially mail -project
> or something with some simple template.  The downside of doing it that
> way is we have none of the NM process information available.

I'm working on a cronjob already which is able to read the data from the NM
database and will send out such mails to -project. It will rely on the fact that
new DDs should receive an account on merkel.

Cheers,

Bernd
-- 
 Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
 GPG Fingerprints: 06C8 C9A2 EAAD E37E 5B2C BE93 067A AD04 C93B FF79
   ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:00:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 02:04:34AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
> 
> > > Something is definitely wrong here, IMHO.
> 
> > Maybe it's your assumption or assertion that the only point of NEW is
> > checking the copyright file.
> 
> He's right that binary NEW is not the right time to be applying unrelated
> sourceful checks to packages.  If ftpmaster feels the need to spot-check
> packages, that's fine, but that shouldn't be coupled to package renames
> where the purpose of NEW is to keep control of the package namespace and set
> the archive overrides.

Well, one thing one might thing of: Auditing soname-changes.  However, I
guess the release-team would be the better group to evaluate those and I
do not have an immediate idea on how to do this without causing major
delays.


Michael


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:

> This one time, at band camp, Bernd Zeimetz said:
> > Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > >> Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in
> > >> these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks anyway...) that it
> > >> doesn't register at all with me.
> > > 
> > > Would it be enough to just have a special automated mail
> > > congratulating new developers on -newmaint (or modify the subject of
> > > this mail to congratulate them?)
> > 
> > I'd be happy to modify the cronjob to send such mails to -project, if the
> > interest is large enough. Does anybody want to come up with a proper 
> > wording?
> 
> When we (DSA) add an account with the ud-ldap tools, it already sends an
> automated email to the new DD.  It could also potentially mail -project
> or something with some simple template.  The downside of doing it that
> way is we have none of the NM process information available.

Yeah, that email is pretty useless for most people.  The only
interesting piece of information in 10+k of email would be the To-line.

weasel
-- 
   |  .''`.  ** Debian GNU/Linux **
  Peter Palfrader  | : :' :  The  universal
 http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `'  Operating System
   |   `-http://www.debian.org/


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Bernd Zeimetz said:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in
> >> these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks anyway...) that it
> >> doesn't register at all with me.
> > 
> > Would it be enough to just have a special automated mail
> > congratulating new developers on -newmaint (or modify the subject of
> > this mail to congratulate them?)
> 
> I'd be happy to modify the cronjob to send such mails to -project, if the
> interest is large enough. Does anybody want to come up with a proper wording?

When we (DSA) add an account with the ud-ldap tools, it already sends an
automated email to the new DD.  It could also potentially mail -project
or something with some simple template.  The downside of doing it that
way is we have none of the NM process information available.

Cheers,
-- 
 -
|   ,''`.Stephen Gran |
|  : :' :sg...@debian.org |
|  `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer |
|`- http://www.debian.org |
 -


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature