Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?
Don -- my apologies for not responding to this earlier; somehow I missed this message, and figured out I had missed it via reading Moray's resonse to it. On Thursday, March 28, 2013 18:35:40, Don Armstrong wrote: > This message appears to be more appropriate for -project, > non-candidate responses, please follow up there. Okay, I've just signed up for [debian-project]. I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment, but will respond tomorrow. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303292132.59426.chris.kna...@coredump.us
Poor BTS interactions (Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?)
On 2013-03-28 16:35, Don Armstrong wrote: ow...@bugs.debian.org is an appropriate place to report abusive behavior by anyone (maintainers, users, etc) on the BTS. But how broad a definition of abusive behaviour are you taking here? I would have thought of contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org in respect of, say, two people battling about a bug's status in control messages, but I wouldn't have assumed that you would want to deal with, e.g., unnecessarily dismissive responses to user feature requests, or maintainers who sound ruder than they intend to users who report a bug due to not having read the documentation. This probably should be better documented somewhere on the website, but as I've never had to look for it, I don't know where that would be. Someone who has searched for it and failed may have some better suggestions. If new bug reporters have followed our instructions and used a tool to report the bug, they won't necessarily look at the website at all. If we want to be sure of reaching them with this kind of advice, it probably has to come by email as well (at least as a clearly labelled URL). -- Moray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/59841be56f0e5b237e68d6b960d49...@www.morayallan.com
Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
Hi, El dv 29 de 03 de 2013 a les 17:41 +0100, en/na Stefano Zacchiroli va escriure: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:00:19PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > TL;DR: we've been invited to participate into GNOME Outreach Program for > > Women and I'd like to accept the invitation. To maximize impact, though, > > we need mentors and topics to complement the current GSoC tasks. > > OK, so, thanks everyone for the feedback thus far, in particular to > Karen and Marina for guidance and further thoughts on the synergies > between OPW and GSoC. > > To go forward we now need (quickly!) a couple of things: > > 1) a coordinator for Debian participation into OPW > 2) (optional) other internship topics to complement the GSoC idea list > > Francesca has proposed something for (2), but is waiting for feedback > from the publicity/press team. Please follow up there if you're > interested in those topics and/or if you are willing to volunteer as > mentor for related topics. > > We are stuck on (1). > > > > Given how often we discuss how cool it would be to have more mentoring > activities in Debian---and in particular more of such activities aimed > at increasing women participation---I was hoping (and still am!) in some > more feedback and volunteering. I volunteer for (1). I'm very motivated on this topic but I'm aware that I've never done a task like this inside Debian and, although it's not so much work, I'd prefer if someone else could join me. Another reason is that I'll be VAC for about 15 days during July but, above all, I think it's funnier not to work alone. So... who wants to join me? I promise to be a nice co-worker ;-) > Is anyone up to volunteer as coordinator for Debian participation into > OPW? The task looks relatively easy: set up some nice landing page on > the Debian wiki, similar to the GNOME one, with a pointer to the GSoC > idea list and to a separate page where we will collect non-GSoC > internship topic. It could be specific to this round of OPW, but I think > it would be way more interesting to take this chance to actually have a > more long-lasting list of such projects. Additionally, the coordinator > will have to coordinate (sorry) with GSoC admins the applications at the > border between the two initiatives. Ok, if anybody is against I take this responsibility, I can do it, but before, let me expose some thoughts & doubts: * I understand that GSoC projects are those that are technical and non-GSoc projects are the non-technical ones. But what happens if a woman wants to apply for a technical project and she is not a student? She could apply for OPW but not for GSoC, but all technical projects are in GSoC list... I think Debian should have women everywhere, not only in the non-techie side. How could we fix this? * I don't completely understand how GSoC and OPW are combined. Do you have more details about it? * 5000$ is a lot of money. If this kind of positive discrimination works, I think it's worth to do it but I would like to know if you feel most Debian contributors agree with this. Note: I have no idea about the current Debian finances status. > If noone else volunteers for that, I will *consider* doing it myself, > but I'd rather not --- mainly because the timeframe of this OPW round > coincides with the DPL change of guard and I'd rather devote my Debian > time to ensure a smooth transition than joining new activities. If noone else wants to join me, could I count on you if I feel lost in the way? :-) > So, if you're interested in kickstarting a very valuable mentoring > opportunity for Debian, please speak up, ... quickly :-), e.g. a couple > of days. Done! Cheers. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?
This message appears to be more appropriate for -project, non-candidate responses, please follow up there. On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Chris Knadle wrote: > As a bug reporter dealing with a misbehaving maintainer, this is > what I would want: > > 1. A clear place to report the misbehavior ow...@bugs.debian.org is an appropriate place to report abusive behavior by anyone (maintainers, users, etc) on the BTS. Likewise, listmas...@lists.debian.org is an appropriate place to report abusive behavior by anyone in messages to lists. This probably should be better documented somewhere on the website, but as I've never had to look for it, I don't know where that would be. Someone who has searched for it and failed may have some better suggestions. > 2. A set of guidelines maintainers should follow I certainly wouldn't have a problem with adopting a set of guidelines for interactions on the BTS, but I'd prefer to have these guidelines discussed on -project first. [We already do have guidelines for the mailing list, too.] > 3. A public dialog about the misbehavior with some Debian > authority along with the misbehaving maintainer. > > Note on (3): In the cases I've dealt with, the misbehavior was in > public bug reports, so the discussion of the misbehavior should > likewise be public. Discussion of misbehavior is usually not public. If someone reports bad behavior, owner@ or listmaster@ typically talks to the individual concerned, and warns them about it specifically, and informs the reporter that their concern has been addressed. In the case where owner@ or listmaster@ have made a decision which can be overridden by GR (IE, banning someone from using control@ or similar), -private is notified so DDs are aware. Don Armstrong -- S: Make me a sandwich B: What? Make it yourself. S: sudo make me a sandwich B: Okay. -- xkcd http://xkcd.com/c149.html http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130328223540.gq5...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:00:19PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > TL;DR: we've been invited to participate into GNOME Outreach Program for > Women and I'd like to accept the invitation. To maximize impact, though, > we need mentors and topics to complement the current GSoC tasks. OK, so, thanks everyone for the feedback thus far, in particular to Karen and Marina for guidance and further thoughts on the synergies between OPW and GSoC. To go forward we now need (quickly!) a couple of things: 1) a coordinator for Debian participation into OPW 2) (optional) other internship topics to complement the GSoC idea list Francesca has proposed something for (2), but is waiting for feedback from the publicity/press team. Please follow up there if you're interested in those topics and/or if you are willing to volunteer as mentor for related topics. We are stuck on (1). Given how often we discuss how cool it would be to have more mentoring activities in Debian---and in particular more of such activities aimed at increasing women participation---I was hoping (and still am!) in some more feedback and volunteering. Is anyone up to volunteer as coordinator for Debian participation into OPW? The task looks relatively easy: set up some nice landing page on the Debian wiki, similar to the GNOME one, with a pointer to the GSoC idea list and to a separate page where we will collect non-GSoC internship topic. It could be specific to this round of OPW, but I think it would be way more interesting to take this chance to actually have a more long-lasting list of such projects. Additionally, the coordinator will have to coordinate (sorry) with GSoC admins the applications at the border between the two initiatives. If noone else volunteers for that, I will *consider* doing it myself, but I'd rather not --- mainly because the timeframe of this OPW round coincides with the DPL change of guard and I'd rather devote my Debian time to ensure a smooth transition than joining new activities. So, if you're interested in kickstarting a very valuable mentoring opportunity for Debian, please speak up, ... quickly :-), e.g. a couple of days. Thanks for considering. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tiny note about bits.debian.org
> Thanks for help. See attachment.
Or you could use:
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I am not sure that will look better.
Best wishes,
Boris
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Re: Tiny note about bits.debian.org
Hi, 2013-03-29 13:35, "Paul Tagliamonte" wrote: > CC'ing publicity and ana, since she did the technical work from what I > understand > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Boris Pek wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am not sure that this is the correct place for my message, but I found >> nothing more relevant. Feel free to redirect me if necessary. >> >> Recently I found web site http://bits.debian.org/ which intends to be an >> official Debian blog. It is quite beautiful and well designed site. But >> one little thing can be improved as I think. Currently all pages have >> title "Bits from Debian" and this is a bit inconvenient when you open >> multiple tabs. It would be better to use an article title there. > > You can prepare a patch for review against debbits @ > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debbits/debbits.git;a=summary -- > the theme bits you want are in > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debbits/debbits.git;a=blob;f=theme-bits/templates/base.html;hb=HEAD > if I grok my jinja2. > > Perhaps send that in for review by ana? Thanks for help. See attachment. Best wishes, Boris -- http://wiki.debian.org/BorisPek 0001-Add-article-title-to-main-title-of-page.patch Description: Binary data
Re: Tiny note about bits.debian.org
CC'ing publicity and ana, since she did the technical work from what I understand On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Boris Pek wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am not sure that this is the correct place for my message, but I found > nothing more relevant. Feel free to redirect me if necessary. > > Recently I found web site http://bits.debian.org/ which intends to be an > official Debian blog. It is quite beautiful and well designed site. But > one little thing can be improved as I think. Currently all pages have > title "Bits from Debian" and this is a bit inconvenient when you open > multiple tabs. It would be better to use an article title there. You can prepare a patch for review against debbits @ http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debbits/debbits.git;a=summary -- the theme bits you want are in http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debbits/debbits.git;a=blob;f=theme-bits/templates/base.html;hb=HEAD if I grok my jinja2. Perhaps send that in for review by ana? Cheers, T > > Best wishes, > Boris > > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/BorisPek > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/257031364546...@web2f.yandex.ru > -- :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cao6p2qrnjgzljtjlvjc3lvjwmap4srgykodkbbttywtn5-q...@mail.gmail.com
Tiny note about bits.debian.org
Hi everyone, I am not sure that this is the correct place for my message, but I found nothing more relevant. Feel free to redirect me if necessary. Recently I found web site http://bits.debian.org/ which intends to be an official Debian blog. It is quite beautiful and well designed site. But one little thing can be improved as I think. Currently all pages have title "Bits from Debian" and this is a bit inconvenient when you open multiple tabs. It would be better to use an article title there. Best wishes, Boris -- http://wiki.debian.org/BorisPek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/257031364546...@web2f.yandex.ru
