Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?
* Brian Gupta [2013-04-22 16:04]: > What do people feel about proceeding with this registration? I'm strongly in favour. As pointed out in my other email, there's no conflict between having a DFSG-free logo and having a registered trademark. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130428161412.gj3...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?
* Brian Gupta [2013-04-22 16:58]: > 1) Gnome foot is licensed under LGPL/GPL and is a registered > Trademark: (Pretty much all artwork including the foot is licensed > under Copyright law under LGPL/GPL). GNOME actually has a good example of why it makes sense to license your logo freely and yet claim trademark rights. As Brian pointed out, copyright and trademark do different things: copyright is about modification (in this case) whereas trademark is about brand identity. While we can use a DFSG free license for the logo, we can use our trademark rights to make sure there is no confusion as to our brand. In reality (as you point out, Paul), this limits the ability to make changes to the logo as it would likely cause confusions around the brand. However, there are situations where this is not the case. GNOME has a really good example: someone took the GNOME logo and replaced the foot with a fish in order to use it for a fish-pedicure company. This is a valid use of copyright (their license allows modification) _and_ of trademark (there is no confusion between a piece of software and a fish-pedicure company, even if they use similar logos). See this LWN article for more information: LFCS 2012: Trademarks for free software projects https://lwn.net/Articles/491639/ It contains a copy of the GNOME-derived fish-pedicure logo. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130428161217.gi3...@jirafa.cyrius.com
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Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
Hi, On 22/04/13 at 22:42 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 21:26:18 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2013-03-26, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > TL;DR: we've been invited to participate into GNOME Outreach Program for > > > Women and I'd like to accept the invitation. To maximize impact, though, > > > we need mentors and topics to complement the current GSoC tasks. > > > > I'm very much against spending debian money on paying for contributors > > time. > > I'm very much against this too. I'm very much against this too. Actually, in https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/02/msg01267.html, I wrote: | I think that GSOC is a great opportunity to get fresh blood inside | Debian, and that we should use it for that, not to get funding for usual | Debian work. However, OPW aims at attracting new contributors, not at funding current contributors. Clearly, I would favor a situation where Debian budget would not be used for funding this participation (thanks to specific donations, for example), but that was not an option for this OPW's round given that we got on the train quite late. Let's use this round as an experiment, with one stipend funded by Debian, to get a better idea of what we want to do for future rounds. Now, there's the question of the GSOC mentoring organization money (http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._How_do_payments_work). Debian will get $500 per GSoC student. As a total, it is likely to amount to almost as much as the OPW stipend, and maybe to more. So one can read this as GSoC funding Debian's experimental participation in OPW for this round. Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130428090922.ga20...@xanadu.blop.info
