Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Huge +1. Wow. Really positive thread. We need more of these.

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On May 3, 2014 5:56 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli"  wrote:

> On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:43:07AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Given that:
> [snip]
> > I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.
> > Comments?
>
> +1
>
> In addition to the good reasons above, I'd also like to add that Tails
> is also being *exemplar* in how to be a good derivative citizen, see for
> example:
>
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg01186.html
>   https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/
>
> Keep up the good work,
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Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:43:07AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Given that:
[snip]
> I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.
> Comments?

+1

In addition to the good reasons above, I'd also like to add that Tails
is also being *exemplar* in how to be a good derivative citizen, see for
example:

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg01186.html
  https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/

Keep up the good work,
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Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o
Former Debian Project Leader  . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o .
« the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »


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Re: Trusted Organisation status for DebConf15's legal entity

2014-05-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi,

On 03/05/14 at 10:54 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum  wrote:
> 
> > As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
> > ,
> > I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
> > period started on 2014-04-26 (and thus ends on 2014-05-11).
> 
> Works for me. Just to make sure: This means that unless someone raises
> objections, we can expect you to rubberstamp our status (and tell us
> what, if anything, else we need to do at that time?)

Yes

> From the docs, the last step is not entirely clear to me, but it
> really seems to be as simple as you saying "they are TO, please add to
> your list" and sending to auditor@

The last step was never used so far AFAIK.
But it could probably be implemented as a d-d-a email providing the updated
list of TOs, and a page on the Debian website listing TOs and referencing
the d-d-a email.
(Similar to delegations and https://www.debian.org/intro/organization)
 
Lucas


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Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Lucas Nussbaum  wrote:
> I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.
> Comments?

Tails FTW. +1.

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Re: Trusted Organisation status for DebConf15's legal entity

2014-05-03 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Lucas Nussbaum  wrote:

> The last step was never used so far AFAIK.
> But it could probably be implemented as a d-d-a email providing the updated
> list of TOs, and a page on the Debian website listing TOs and referencing
> the d-d-a email.
> (Similar to delegations and https://www.debian.org/intro/organization)

Re-reading everything, I think the "proper" way is for you to ask
auditor@ to update the list of TOs.

It would make sense for auditor@ (or you) to follow delegation templates.


Richard

PS: FWIW, they are maintaining TOs in the wiki, but a real page may be
even better.


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Re: Trusted Organisation status for DebConf15's legal entity

2014-05-03 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum  wrote:

> As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
> ,
> I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
> period started on 2014-04-26 (and thus ends on 2014-05-11).

Works for me. Just to make sure: This means that unless someone raises
objections, we can expect you to rubberstamp our status (and tell us
what, if anything, else we need to do at that time?)

>From the docs, the last step is not entirely clear to me, but it
really seems to be as simple as you saying "they are TO, please add to
your list" and sending to auditor@


Thanks,
Richard


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Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 03 May 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.

Totally agreed upon!

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Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Banck
Hi,

On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:43:07AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Tails project is a Debian-based live system focusing on privacy and
> anonymity. For more information about Tails and their relationship with
> Debian, see:
> https://tails.boum.org/
> https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Tails
> https://tails.boum.org/contribute/relationship_with_upstream/
> https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/
> http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/
> 
> Tails is organizing a two-day hackfest and a contributors summit in
> July. They are requesting sponsorship from Debian for the events, in
> order to cover travel costs for contributors. Their overall budget is
> between 10kEUR and 20kEUR.
> 
> Given that:
> - they are a derivative working closely with Debian (and being a live
>   system, having their own public identity makes sense)
> - they are doing a lot of their work in Debian -- the hackfest could be
>   seen as a Debian sprint
> - they are addressing important issues, and clearly contribute to Debian
>   having something to say about such issues
> 
> I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.
> 
> Comments?

+1

Michael


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Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi,

The Tails project is a Debian-based live system focusing on privacy and
anonymity. For more information about Tails and their relationship with
Debian, see:
https://tails.boum.org/
https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Tails
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/relationship_with_upstream/
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/
http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/

Tails is organizing a two-day hackfest and a contributors summit in
July. They are requesting sponsorship from Debian for the events, in
order to cover travel costs for contributors. Their overall budget is
between 10kEUR and 20kEUR.

Given that:
- they are a derivative working closely with Debian (and being a live
  system, having their own public identity makes sense)
- they are doing a lot of their work in Debian -- the hackfest could be
  seen as a Debian sprint
- they are addressing important issues, and clearly contribute to Debian
  having something to say about such issues

I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.

Comments?

Lucas


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Re: Trusted Organisation status for DebConf15's legal entity

2014-05-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/05/14 at 19:47 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> as announced some time ago, we will incorporate DebConfDeutschland
> e.V. tomorrow.
> 
> All founding members will be DDs with the full list being sent as a
> reply to this email after the fact.
> 
> 
> Given that:
> 
> * We will not be using the name "Debian"
> * We are not planning to run for more than necessary for DC15
> 
> We would like to know:
> 
> * If we need TO status
> * Assuming yes, what the next steps are

Hi,

Given that DebConfDeutchscland e.V. will still hold Debian funds, I
think that it should become a TO. After all, the process is quite
simple, and I don't expect any problems.

As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
,
I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
period started on 2014-04-26 (and thus ends on 2014-05-11).

Lucas


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