Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
On July 7, 2016 4:48:19 PM GMT+02:00, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >Point is; only "Developers" (the term our constitution uses) are >supposed to ever have been subscribed to d-private. JFTR: the Constitution uses both "developers" and "members", interchangeably. -- Sent from my mobile phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
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Nicolas Dandrimont writes ("Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private
list will remain private"):
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> Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private.
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> 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private
>list archives" is repealed.
> 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian
>Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing
>list only for discussions that should not be disclosed.
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> === END GR TEXT ===
Seconded.
Ian.
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Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 03:37:08PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > In 2005, the body of Debian Developers passed a General Resolution[1] > requiring the creation of a declassification team for the > debian-private mailing list. For the past ten years, the > implementation of this GR has never materialized, despite an explicit > call for volunteers[2] by the DPL in 2010. > > [1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_002 > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/05/msg00105.html > > Over the years, several important discussions have happened on the > debian-private mailing list that needed to stay private. Oftentimes, when a > discussion has carried on for a while, some participants have reminded others > that the discussion should be summarized in a public thread on either the > debian-devel or the debian-project mailing lists. > > While we agree with the intentions behind the original GR, we believe it is > now > time to acknowledge that the declassification of debian-private will never > happen, and that we should instead strongly encourage developers to move > discussions to public channels as soon as the sensitivity of the discussion > subsides. > > We therefore propose the following General Resolution: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian >Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing >list only for discussions that should not be disclosed. > > === END GR TEXT === > > Thanks for your consideration, Seconded. J. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
Le jeudi, 7 juillet 2016, 14.39:21 Holger Levsen a écrit : > (should the text be reworded, I'd like to propose s#Debian > Developers#Debian members#g.) Point is; only "Developers" (the term our constitution uses) are supposed to ever have been subscribed to d-private. That said, we could amend the constitution in a separate GR. -- Cheers, OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 03:37:08PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian >Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing >list only for discussions that should not be disclosed. > > === END GR TEXT === seconded & thank you for this! (should the text be reworded, I'd like to propose s#Debian Developers#Debian members#g.) -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
Hi, On 07/07/2016 15:37, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian >Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing >list only for discussions that should not be disclosed. > > === END GR TEXT === > Thank you Nicolas for working on this and bringing it up! And… seconded. -- Mehdi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 03:37:08PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > In 2005, the body of Debian Developers passed a General Resolution[1] > requiring > the creation of a declassification team for the debian-private mailing list. > For the past ten years, the implementation of this GR has never materialized, > despite an explicit call for volunteers[2] by the DPL in 2010. > > [1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_002 > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/05/msg00105.html > > Over the years, several important discussions have happened on the > debian-private mailing list that needed to stay private. Oftentimes, when a > discussion has carried on for a while, some participants have reminded others > that the discussion should be summarized in a public thread on either the > debian-devel or the debian-project mailing lists. > > While we agree with the intentions behind the original GR, we believe it is > now > time to acknowledge that the declassification of debian-private will never > happen, and that we should instead strongly encourage developers to move > discussions to public channels as soon as the sensitivity of the discussion > subsides. > > We therefore propose the following General Resolution: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian >Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing >list only for discussions that should not be disclosed. > > === END GR TEXT === Seconded. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private
In 2005, the body of Debian Developers passed a General Resolution[1] requiring the creation of a declassification team for the debian-private mailing list. For the past ten years, the implementation of this GR has never materialized, despite an explicit call for volunteers[2] by the DPL in 2010. [1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_002 [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/05/msg00105.html Over the years, several important discussions have happened on the debian-private mailing list that needed to stay private. Oftentimes, when a discussion has carried on for a while, some participants have reminded others that the discussion should be summarized in a public thread on either the debian-devel or the debian-project mailing lists. While we agree with the intentions behind the original GR, we believe it is now time to acknowledge that the declassification of debian-private will never happen, and that we should instead strongly encourage developers to move discussions to public channels as soon as the sensitivity of the discussion subsides. We therefore propose the following General Resolution: === BEGIN GR TEXT === Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private list archives" is repealed. 2. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing list only for discussions that should not be disclosed. === END GR TEXT === Thanks for your consideration, -- Nicolas Dandrimont (with thanks to all who helped writing this) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
