Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
On 2019-06-12, Sam Hartman wrote: > Well, in general, people are trying to share these reports in email, so > I'm not quite sure how that would work. I was just thinking of taking the ledger snippet and presenting it differently. Maybe I should see what I can do in a couple of hours during next-ish week with hardcoded data and if that is promising, extend it to work with input data from the clipboard. /Sune
future of the Debian Party Line mumble server?
Hi folks, The Debian Party Line was a mumble server run by Joey Hess and an associated ikiwiki page with details about how to connect to it. It was used for voice communication for events like Debian release parties. https://debian-party-line.branchable.com/ Due to the coming release of Debian buster I noticed that it was no longer operational and I learnt from Joey that he shut down the server in 2017 as he was no longer using it and no longer administering it. https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBuster?action=recall&rev=3#Debian_Party_Line https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBuster?action=diff&rev1=3&rev2=4 Is anyone else interesting in setting up a new mumble server for Debian, ensuring that is used appropriately and advertising that it is available for Debian related purposes? I've vacated the mumble.debian.net for whoever wants to run it. I'd suggest that the ikiwiki page be moved to wiki.debian.org and the branchable page be redirected to the Debian wiki. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian Helping Scammer Websites to Cheat its Readers?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:01 PM Jeff Licquia wrote: > That link on Debian Junior for shoes should probably be removed now. The link is pulled directly from the package metadata from (now-obsolete) Debian releases. The junior-programming metapackage still suggests it. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 03:36:09PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Well, in general, people are trying to share these reports in email, so > I'm not quite sure how that would work. > > But yes, GUIs or web UIs do work fairly well for this. Can you check if Fava (a web UI for beancount) works well for you? There is a demo link on the project homepage: https://beancount.github.io/fava/ I'm asking because together with Martin we have a very effective bridge from ledger to beancount, so that might be another viable option to access Debian-reported ledger reports. (It's, in fact, also my preferred solution for browsing my family ledger books.) Cheers PS if, OTOH, you want to give it a try locally: apt install ledger2beancount python3-fava -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader & OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
> "Sune" == Sune Vuorela writes: Sune> On 2019-06-10, Sam Hartman wrote: >> Unfortunately, I find that its reports are not very accessible at >> least by default. The issue I'm most running into is that the >> reports use internal indentation within a line. That is, to draw >> an account tree ledger indents the column containing the account >> name depending on its level in the tree. Sune> Would a GUI with a file manager like tree interface help in Sune> any way? Well, in general, people are trying to share these reports in email, so I'm not quite sure how that would work. But yes, GUIs or web UIs do work fairly well for this. As an example the odoo web apps analytic chart of accounts and chart of accounts work similar to what you're talking about and work fairly well from an accessibility standpoint. Similarly their analytic balance sheet and balance sheet are layed out in a manner that is reasonably easy to follow.
Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
On 2019-06-10, Sam Hartman wrote: > Unfortunately, I find that its reports are not very accessible at least > by default. > The issue I'm most running into is that the reports use internal > indentation within a line. That is, to draw an account tree ledger > indents the column containing the account name depending on its level in > the tree. Would a GUI with a file manager like tree interface help in any way? I'm sure someone could do a PoC of that if it might help. /Sune - who might go look in the mirror to find such a someone for a Qt proof of concept
Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
* Sam Hartman [2019-06-10 10:44]: > The issue I'm most running into is that the reports use internal > indentation within a line. That is, to draw an account tree ledger > indents the column containing the account name depending on its > level in the tree. ... > i'm also told that there is a --flat option that displays the entire > account tree. I suspect that's really annoying for others. I think --flat is probably the best option. The downside of --flat is that it doesn't add up the sub-totals, as a regular balance report does (although some people find that misleading). beancount has a 'treeify' command which uses arrows for the tree. I'm not sure if that's more readable for you? (Running treeify on ledger output doesn't work, though.) The output of treeify looks like this: |-- Expenses | |-- Banking | | |-- AccountFee -0.10 USD | | |-- CPFee 957.21 USD | | |-- ForeignTransactionFee | | |-- PayPalFee 2266.61 USD | | |-- PaysimpleFee 239.75 USD | | `-- TransactionFee 38.23 USD | |-- Development345.48 USD -- Martin Michlmayr https://www.cyrius.com/
Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports
* Sam Hartman [2019-06-10 14:06]: > Is there any way to have the account name as the first column? > That would probably also work well. That's not a built in feature. You can change the format via --balance-format but the format string is quite long. -- Martin Michlmayr https://www.cyrius.com/
