Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

2012-11-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:38:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including
> all my book reviews and software release announcements?

I saw this post after I saw your subsequent blog post but FWIW I welcome your
non-technical content on p.d.o, thanks!


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Re: Planned changes to Debian Maintainer uploads

2012-06-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 04:40:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Could we have an expiration date associated with the grants?  I might
> grant somebody rights to a package, but want it to expire within $period
> (or at least be subject to more aggressive QA/MIA checks than a normal
> DD), since I'll be tied to them in a way.

That seems like a good idea, if we're in agreement that the point of DM is to
be a bridge status whilst someone works through NM.  I think that was the
intention and presume it still is.  There's a risk that someone will get DM
status and then only care about a small handful of packages and so not bother
to progress with NM. I think I've seen that a few times.


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Re: Planned changes to Debian Maintainer uploads

2012-06-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:57:49PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (Please send followup messages to -project.)
> 
> The ftp team wants to change how allowing Debian Maintainers to upload
> packages works.  The current approach with the DM-Upload-Allowed field
> has a few issues we would like to address:

Have any of these issues been a problem practically, yet? Or are they
just potential problems for the future?


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Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-10 Thread Jon Dowland
Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Why so complicated? Isn't it easier to divide the content
> of planet into something like "personal" and "technical"

Some people think pdo needs adjusting, some don't. The
solution Lars proposed leaves pdo as it is (which satisfies
the latter camp, which includes me).


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Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Jon Dowland
Lars Wirzenius  liw.iki.fi> writes:
> It strikes me, though, that if there's interest, setting up an
> "pure.debian.net" with feeds strictly restricted to those that discuss
> Debian matters only, should be pretty easy. Anybody interested in
> subscribing to it?

I think that is a great idea. I wouldn't subscribe to it, under the assumption
that p.d.o would be effectively a superset of the content, but it would at least
satisfy those who are not interested in non-technical postings.


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Re: Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-18 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1155730971 past the epoch, Magnus Berg wrote:
> Now I suggest that that a script change all e-mail
> addresses, in all incoming bugreports, to links that hide
> the e-mail address.

I would appose this being the default action. I would not
appose it being an option, but I would prefer if it was made
clear to those who chose to use such an option that bug
reports or other information may not be acted upon if the
submitter could not be contacted.

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Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1146403978 past the epoch, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Why not move it to Jabber?  More people use and know what Jabber is
> these days than IRC.

Really? I'd love to see some figures.

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Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-10 Thread Jon Dowland
One thing that is obvious from reading that transcript is that you are
not familiar with IRC. #debian is a very high-traffic channel and as
such, it has to be tightly monitored for on-topic discussion, lest the
off-topic stuff drown out cries for help.

Not only did you get some helpful answers to your queries, but you
didn't take up other opportunities to continue the discussion with a
willing participant: namely, messaging det privately. Not knowing how do
to so is not much of an excuse[1]. Additionally, your comments to don
regarding escalating the matter are most certainly off-topic too. What
other course of action do you think would have been reasonable at that
point, to keep the channel useful to the majority of people?

I don't doubt your sincerity, but someone presented with the irclog but
not the comments in your mail could quite easily come to the conclusion
that you were a troll specifically setting out to cause disruption.

Regarding deadrat, one of the things it's important to learn about IRC
is the /ignore command, and when to use it.

[1] there are IRC channels setup specifically for beginners. I could be
wrong but I think there are some for debian newbies, too.

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Re: licence for wiki material (or lack thereof): a desperate plea

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:52:41PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:39:19 +0100 Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am happy to work on how to do this with moin moin but I need to
> > know that others agree this is necessary.
> 
> ...and I'd be happy to work with upstream to incorporate such
> improvement.
> 
> But perhaps it is already there - are you aware of the config options
> config_license_enabled and config_license_page ?

Hi - thank you for your support. I have written up the situation at
<http://wiki.debian.org/WikiLicencingTerms>. I am basically awaiting a
response from someone in a position to either go ahead with the
suggestion or tell me where to stick it :)

Regarding the *_licence_* options: I was not aware, thank you. I did
some investigation and I believe the terms are actually
page_licence_enabled and page_licence_page. However, I have not managed
to get these to work myself (although I am no MoinMoin expert). Have you
any experience using these options yourself? (I found some discussion
about the arch wiki having similar licencing thoughts, although they do
not appear to have these variables active either).

[With apologies for any duplication.. I am currently facing mail problems.]

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Re: Debian Women Software Freedom Day activities

2005-09-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 03:07:31AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Shall we switch to usertags too for claiming bugs, then?

[I'm convinced I already sent this but it hasn't showed up after >24
hours]

usertags would make things quicker and more convenient for non-DDs.

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licence for wiki material (or lack thereof): a desperate plea

2005-09-06 Thread Jon Dowland
Hello,

We're catching the tail-end of discussions about Debian's up-coming
official wiki at <http://wiki.debian.org/>, specifically, the migration
of material from the unofficial wiki at <http://wiki.debian.net/>.

I'd like to raise the issue of wiki material licencing before it gets
too late to do anything about it.

Currently, most wikis do not express any licence regarding the material
they provide: there is no clear indication how the material might be
re-used (e.g. incorporating into debian's official documents) or what
terms people can contribute under.

wiki.debian.net has a retro-fitted copyright statement at
<http://wiki.debian.net/copyright.html> which states only that the
copyright is held by 'each author'. There is also a condition of
publishing (namely, re-use, Fair Use). This isn't linked to from the
edit form (can't confirm whilst it's read-only) so you are only likely
to find this if you look for it.

A piece of software which was released without any indication of licence
would never be considered as a package for debian. I would not like to
see anything produced by the wiki to be discounted in a similar way: it
might be that the wiki proves to be a very useful tool for writing
replacements for GFDL documents for example.

It is possible with some wiki technologies to incorporate both a
human-aimed indication of licence (all contributions must be made
according to these terms...) and a machine-readable indication in the
form of licence metadata. I've hacked GPLv2 metadata into mediawiki, for
example (proof of concept at <http://wiki.debianflame.org/>).

I am happy to work on how to do this with moin moin but I need to know
that others agree this is necessary. Is the current statement on
wiki.debian.net sufficient? In which case we need to add it to the .org
one too.

It would really need to be done before any material starts getting added
(i.e., before the private discussions about content migration from .net
to .org were started).  We'd also need to decide on a licence for
material. I'd suggest GPLv2, in order to be compatible with e.g. the new
maintainer's guide, the developer's reference, etc.

[With apologies for the length]

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