Re: Debian 6.0

2010-06-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Guten Tag Steffen,
Good Day Steffen,
Bonjour Steffen,
Merhaba Steffen,
Salam Steffen,
Salam Alaikum Steffen,
Anyang Steffen,

Am 2010-06-08 09:19:19, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>  * the release team http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam produces a
> series of status announcements, the last one I am aware of is here
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/05/msg0.html

I am very long time involved in Debian GNU/Linux...  exactly more then
11 years!  ;-)

>  * apparently you are technically involved, and you will find many
> individuals speaking German or French (so there is no language barrier
> for you) , who are contributing to the release - join and communicate
> with them, send bug fixes for the packages that you use.

Currently I try to get a TI Sitara AM3517 and  Marvel  MV78200/Armada300
running with Debian...  I have not enough time to to more  as  reporting
bugs...

Since Squeeze has screwed up my new VServer I had some hours touble with
it because one ov my websites was down...  no not apache2 but  IP-Tables
crap...

> My personal opinion is that I am using squeeze already and you can, too.

I use it too but since my (currently) 239 servers are in  production,  I
have to wait a little bit...

> Don't expect dramatic changes, in particular not for your field which is
> embedded computing. This way, you'll be ready for Squeeze as soon as
> Squeeze is.

For the ARMEL stuff I have to get the KERNEL running!

However I do not use KDE/GNOME but FVWM and there are some heavy changes
for me if I switch my Office and my customers to squeeze...  I  have  to
build a Custom CD and a Metapackage which violate the Debian  Policy  by
changing the configs of other packages...

Also I have to recode some tools because Debian has droped  XDialog  and
there is no (compatible) replacement for it!

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Re: Debian 6.0

2010-06-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Navid Alamati,

Am 2010-06-07 01:05:32, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Hi , 
>  
> When Debian 6.0 will be released ?

Maybe when it is ready?

> Best Regards , 
> Navid Alamati

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Re: vmlinuz / vmlinuz.old

2010-03-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Doktor,

Ich würde sagen, erst mal die 


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Am 2010-03-16 01:21:44, schrieb dr.broonskii:
> /*To whom it may concern , good morning !
> Most likely you  have never come across the "Hausordnung" of a
> regular  railway  station.Should you  ever  want to  see  a similar
> kind of  administrational  accomplishment,you only have to look at
> your own
> regulations in particular or ubuntu-regulations in general. -
> Everything is very well regulated - even questioning,e.g. if someone
> wants to ask a question,one is  expected to check a zillion of
> contributions ,to find out,if this very question has not been asked
> ,hence,answered  before. - Congratulations - This is
> brilliant,however,I am afraid,that by the time,I have made it
> through _all_ contributions,my hair will have grown white  or I will
> have forgotten  my name,if not my question,too.
> But - since I was born to decent parents,I have also inherited some
> of their decency.And in order for you to realize this personal
> quality of mine I hereby want to ask you as humble as I can be :  to
> whom could I direct a question,which refers to
> "vmlinuz"/"vmlinuz.old" ?
> With regards - and thanks for your attention - DR. BROONSKII .
> 
> */
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Re: selling distributions

2009-07-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-07-26 10:05:52, schrieb wes zemonek:
> HOW DO I BECOME A DEBIAN VENDOR IF MY SELLING SITE IS EBAY?

I think NEVER, because selling on eBay is not serious.

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Archive mirror + Snapshots

2009-07-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello DPL, DDs, DMs and *,

I am now back in Germany and afther Hansenet, M-Net and  NetCologne,  my
Enterprise ITSystems/TDWave is now the forth in the bundle which install
a regional 100 MBit FiberOptic Residential Network.  In the  Region  are
more then 1.6 million hausholds where more then the half has an Internet
Access of less then 1 MBit.  Now, this will change.

Also most of you know, that I am Debian User since more hen 10 years and
Linux Developer.

I am running my own Debian Mirrors and I had a very huge Archive  mirror
of 21 TByte which was gone down for some time...

Now I am ongoing to buy a new  "Sun Fire X4540 Server"  with  48  1TByte
Drives and I am asking now (I get already  a  special  price  from  SUN)
whether there are peoples like to co-sponsor such machine.

The Server will be located in our DataCanter  in  Kehl/Baden-Württemberg
(near or Strasbourg)

Also I hope, I can restore the  backups  from  my  old  archive  mirror,
because I have nearly all packages (src and bin) with all CDs from Slink
to Potato where the official archive/snapshot server strt with Woody.

And of course, our network will have a Full-Debian mirror.

Note:   Because the dimension of this new FiberOptic Network, ITSystems
will previously go online in  2009/11  and  TDWave  not  before
2010/03.

Our Partners are LSE (Darmstadt) and Riess Systems (Karlsbad),
Level3, Telefonica and some  others.  (Orange,  T-Systems  and
Verizone are weird)

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Re: snapshot.debian.net

2009-04-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Peter,

Am 2009-04-28 20:36:50, schrieb peter green:
> I have found snapshot.debian.net to be an invaluable resource when I  
> wanted to check a bug with a particular version of a package and i'm  
> sure others have too. Unfortunately the site seems to have been going  
> downhill for a while (the search doesn't find anything at all recent,  
> redirects to where the data is actually stored only half-work, there is  
> no listing in the top level archive directory and so on) and it seems  
> addition of new days to the archive stopped completely at the end of  
> last month.
>
> Ukai do you plan to fix snapshot.debian.net?

It seems he is not online, because he does not respond to my last  three
or four mails...

> If not does anyone fancy  
> setting up a similar service (I would do it myself if I had the  
> resources, unfortunately I don't)? Would it even make sense to make such  
> a service official?


As I have written on my  page  <http://releases.debian.tamay-dogan.net/>
I have accidently killed my /debian/dist/ folder and had no backup...

Now last year I have shutdown my Dual STM-4 in paris and  my  server  is
Off-Line (also I have a diskspace problem since Lenny because my  drives
are full)

Now I am  in  creation  of  a  new  enterprise  <http://www.tdwave.net/>
offering 100MBit Residential  FiberOptic  Internet  Access,  which  will
consume VERY much bandwidth and I will have multiple  10 GBit  upstreams
which mean, I try to re-activate my archive mirror again.

It is a question of the price for at  least  6 TByte  of  NEW  diskspace
using 300 GByte SCSI drives.  The whole server then would have  30 TByte
holding Binaries, Sources, CD and DVD images.

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Re: lenny release at epoche 1234567890 ?

2009-02-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-15 00:08:44, schrieb Martin Meredith:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:14:53PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > <49862854.1070...@googlemail.com>
> 
> I so need to write a function that'll let me search my mails in mutt based on 
> message id :D

???  --  You are using mutt!

~B 49862854.1070...@googlemail.com

Multipe folders can be searched from a macro...

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Re: PATCH for spamass-milter to solve Debian list spam->bounce issue (Was:- Spamming the World through Open Debian Mailinglists....)

2008-12-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Guten Abend Cord,

Am 2008-12-30 19:00:41, schrieb Cord Beermann:
> svn://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-listmaster

Hmmm, I can not connect...
It seems, Telefonica/O2 and Bougues Telecom are blocking something

> >(Wo bekommet man das Script oben rechts für die VORRATSDATENSPEICHERUNG?)
> 
> http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Online-Demo

Danke... installiert.  <http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/>

> >> I also understood that people want to have information about how many
> >> bounces we counted for them. I'm just thinking about how to implement
> >> that and will include that in the bounce-warning-message.
> 
> this is now implemented. I hope this helps.

WOW!!!  You are realy fast...

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Re: PATCH for spamass-milter to solve Debian list spam->bounce issue (Was:- Spamming the World through Open Debian Mailinglists....)

2008-12-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good evening Cord,
Guten Abend Cord,

Am 2008-12-29 14:20:10, schrieb Cord Beermann:
> Hallo! Du (Michelle Konzack) hast geschrieben:
> >Tried to educate "spamassassin" for this kind of languages?
> 
> yes. we do that already. see
> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-listmaster/ which represents our
> running Amavis/SA-setup.

For three seconds I was on the link above, but there is nothing visibel.
I was looking in the CVS...  Checked the Mailinglists...  :-/

However, I had to disabel the language checks in spamassassin  since  it
gaved me to many false-positive.

> I tried to describe the kick-policy at
> http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080126-001137

OK...

(Wo bekommet man das Script oben rechts für die VORRATSDATENSPEICHERUNG?)

> I also understood that people want to have information about how many
> bounces we counted for them. I'm just thinking about how to implement
> that and will include that in the bounce-warning-message.

Thanks for your efforts
Michelle

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Re: PATCH for spamass-milter to solve Debian list spam->bounce issue (Was:- Spamming the World through Open Debian Mailinglists....)

2008-12-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-12-27 16:55:58, schrieb Jeroen Massar:
> I already pointed this out the previous time I was complaining about
> getting unsubscribed. liszt.debian.org seems to run the same setup:
> postfix+spamassasin (though I dunno if you are using spamass-milter
> there, but you should otherwise); it seems also that my setup does know
> how to figure out that it is spam but yours doesn't.

In how many languages do you receive messages?

I get german, english, french, spanish, portugues, arabic,  turkish  and
persian messages

Some times I get korean and chinese to because I have business contacts
there.

Tried to educate "spamassassin" for this kind of languages?

You have to tune this pig as the hell.

> They are not set high enough apparently, otherwise I would not get
> unsubscribed. See your archives, then you can easily count the number of
> spams and the amount.

I think the threshold is at 5 bounces and then you  have  to  confirm  a
message that the message was rejected in accident...

> The biggest annoyance with the unsubscribes is that you don't even
> notice it because you don't get a notification of it (though on the side
> of the list, you are supposed to be dead then).

False, you get a message from the list system
I have a bunch of them...  But if you suppress  the  messages  from  the
mailer-daemon...  Oops!  (I have already written, that I had to whitlist
the E-Mail)

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Re: Spamming the World through Open Debian Mailinglists (Re: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you)

2008-12-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Don,

Am 2008-12-27 03:31:45, schrieb Don Armstrong:
> If you don't want to deal with the occasional spam that gets through,
> then feel free to unsubscribe. Furthemore, the thresholds for
> automatic unsubscription are set fairly high anyway; the warning
> messages we send out are for your information only, as they often
> indicate mail misconfigurations at your end (or rarely, at ours.)

Please, is it possibel to include "threshold" infos in the info messge
from the listsoftware?

And of course, how many message went bounced?

I had to whitelist the sender of the bounces  since  my  courier  server
mailsystem has tried to bounce (!!!) it...  (my courier is  my  intranet
box which get the messages form the Internet using fetchmail and I think
that boincing is not realy what I want with some exceptions)

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Re: Spamming the World through Open Debian Mailinglists (Re: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you)

2008-12-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jeroen,

I am on 65 Debian Lists (or 147 in total) and from Debian I get per  day
less then 38 spams... and most are filtered by "spamassassin"  and  some
simple "procmail" rules...

Oh yes, the BTS (I am subscribed to any packages  installed  on  my  own
systems and those of my customers, hence 1586 in  total)  is  the  hell,
since some times I get over 700 per day.

However I am on those lists:

.ML_debian.68k
.ML_debian.alpha
.ML_debian.amd64
.ML_debian.arm
.ML_debian.cd
.ML_debian.changes
.ML_debian.curiosa
.ML_debian.custom
.ML_debian.debootloaders-yaboot
.ML_debian.debtags-devel
.ML_debian.desktop
.ML_debian.devel
.ML_debian.devel-announce
.ML_debian.devel-changes
.ML_debian.doc
.ML_debian.edu
.ML_debian.embedded
.ML_debian.events-eu
.ML_debian.firewall
.ML_debian.hppa
.ML_debian.i18n
.ML_debian.ia64
.ML_debian.initscripts-ng-devel
.ML_debian.isp
.ML_debian.jobs
.ML_debian.jr
.ML_debian.laptop
.ML_debian.legal
.ML_debian.libhid-discuss
.ML_debian.live
.ML_debian.mentors
.ML_debian.mips
.ML_debian.multimedia
.ML_debian.newmaint
.ML_debian.news
.ML_debian.news-french
.ML_debian.news-german
.ML_debian.perl
.ML_debian.pkg-mc-devel
.ML_debian.pkg-postgresql-public
.ML_debian.policy
.ML_debian.powerpc
.ML_debian.printing
.ML_debian.project
.ML_debian.qa
.ML_debian.release
.ML_debian.s390
.ML_debian.science
.ML_debian.security
.ML_debian.security-announce
.ML_debian.sparc
.ML_debian.ssh
.ML_debian.testing
.ML_debian.testing-changes
.ML_debian.user
.ML_debian.user-french
.ML_debian.user-german
.ML_debian.user-spanish
.ML_debian.user-turkish
.ML_debian.vote
.ML_debian.webapps
.ML_debian.women
.ML_debian.www
.ML_debian.x

It seems that there are 4 alioth list missing plus some very low traffic
lists where messages are already archived after 6 month...

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Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich

2008-12-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-12-06 01:58:59, schrieb Chris Bannister:
> > Note:  I employ only women (IT and Electronic)
> 
> And so is that! 
> 
> Both illegal in New Zealand and hopefully, nearly(?) all other
> countries.

Even if it is a project from the UNDP/UNESCO?

Men ARE discriminating women and kicking them off...

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Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich

2008-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Martin and *,

Am 2008-11-27 10:19:32, schrieb W. Martin Borgert:
> At least in Germany, this can lead to a "dissuasion"(?) -
> Abmahnung, i.e. the company has to pay a kind of fine/charge, on
> grounds of "Common Equalisation Law"(?) - AGG, Allgemeines
> Gleichstellungsgesetz. As always: IANAL and have no idea about
> Swiss legislation. I'm pretty sure in Germany it's just illegal.
> 
> (Btw. I'm not against any kind of discrimination in general, it
> depends on context. And I am not a fan of "political
> correctness", which is very often a nicer word for censorship.)

I have my enterprise in Kehl/Baden-Würtemberg/Germany and  I  have  only
female emplyee under 30 years...  I was sued several times  without  any
success.

Limiting an employment to a cerain sexe or age depend on the type of the
enterprise.

In Freiburg there are several enterprises which do not employ IT peoples
over30 years, since the enterprises are created  by  absolvents  of  the
University of Freiburg and the core-team is between 22 and 25 years.

Call this enterprise a Jump-Board or something like this...

I my self was 17 times sued for employing only women and of course, they
are origine iranien, turkish, morocaine or afghane...  They have studied
CS, electronic and similares and where discriminated  because  they  are
female and foreigner...

And last not least, I am working together with the UNDP and UNESCO  (not
in germany).

So, sueing my enterprise will be very costly for the person/organisation
who try it...  (I have already kicked of two advocats which where trying
to get an "Abmahnung" for several 1 Euro...)

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Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich

2008-11-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-11-25 20:17:22, schrieb W. Martin Borgert:
> I would very much appreciate, if Debian would not publish job
> offers that discriminate on the grounds of race, ethnic origin,
> disability, age, gender, sexual orientation or religion. Not
> only it is illegal in some countries, I find it highly
> inappropriate for our project. Thanks for your attention.

And if this is a young enterprise wher the founder/owner  are  young  as
23-25  years...  I  know  several  enterprises  created  by   university
absolvents and the  demands  to  be  younger  then  35 years  is  NOT  a
discrimination...

Note:  I employ only women (IT and Electronic)

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Re: Debian 2.0 Hamm

2008-10-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Joe,

Am 2008-09-26 22:41:53, schrieb Joe Smith:
> Unfortuneatly, archive is currently not maintained. Philip Hands, 
> redirected it to saens and added woody back in 2005 
> (http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/08/msg00173.html), but it has 
> not been touch since then. The big issue with it is disk space. However, I 

I have a private Debian Mirror since Slink and all releases since Buzz
1.1.

Unfortunateley some of my 300 GByte  SCSI  drives  crashed  and  I  have
Backuped the 22 TByte to  1 TByte  SATA  drives  which  are  now  laying
arround in Anti-Chock-Cases because currently I have no money to setup a
New Mirror since I am private persion and have  not  the  money  to  buy
SCSI/SAS drives for 18.000 Euro...  plus new Server and Cages

Whay I am  writing  here  is,  because  I  like  to  know  the  size  of
 and .

Maybe I can find a sponsor for a cage of fiveteen 300 GByte SCSI or  SAS
drives which would be 3.6 TByte in Raid-5 plus 2 HotFix.

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Question to donation from OnlineStore to Debian/SPI

2008-09-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I am ongoing to start a new OnlineStore  selling  Debian  DVDs  and  CDs
beside other things.  Sinde I want to donate a part of the  sales  price
to the Debian Project I am running into some troubles.

I need and organisation where peopled can get fiscal benefits in Germany
and maybe France...

Pleass can you name some organisations if SPI can not handel it?

Since there is no SPI-Germany, are there interests to create one?

Curently I have heavy problems to get osCommerce correctly running since
I have hit a couple of bugs in it...  and I am ongoing to  code  my  own
one since there is NO Devel/User Mailinglist for it and I can not access
this crapy forum.  (It produce 5 times more traffic as a Mailinglist and
I am on GSM which is quiet expensive)

The location of it is:  <http://onlinestore.tamy-dogan.net/>

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Re: bits/news from the users of Debian?

2008-06-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
t does Debian mean to you?

Mostly:  "Freedom total"

> In what ways do you or do you intend
> to contribute to Debian and free software in general?

1)  Coding Add-Ons/Plugins
2)  create enhancements to existing software.
3)  write documentations which fir the DFSG.  (e.g. bash-doc)

> How can we help
> you to contribute to Debian or free software in general?

Hmmm...

> In your replies, please indicate which parts are for debconf, d-d-a or
> d-p. Please also indicate if you would like to remain anonymous, want
> your comments attributed to you or don't care either way.

You can use my full name and e-Mail address freely and the whole
contents of the message...

> I'll read all
> public and private replies and make summaries for d-d-a and d-p.
> Depending on the number of replies and my "real life" situation, it
> might take a while to write up, so please be patient.
> 
> I'm unfortunately monolingual, so if you would like to translate this
> mail to your language and translate replies from users to English and
> send them to me, please feel free to post it to the non-English user
> lists/forums.

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Re: get off your ass

2008-04-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-24 21:45:56, schrieb Craig Witherspoon:
> If you do not start doing something realistic about the NVIDIA drivers 
> you are going to destroy your installed user base.
> 
> Craig Witherspoon author Linux for Dummies
> craig @scribblersbay.com
 END OF REPLIED MESSAGE 

Do you have a "Acer Aspire 7220" and can not get anything  running  like
my neighbour?  It has a nVidia GeForce 7000M and  maybe  you  kick  your
Lapi out of the window and buy a real one like a ThinkPad 60e which cost
in germany a little bit more as the half of the Acer but it IS a  laptop
and working with Etch.

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Re: [ANN] Debian-Grandfathers project

2008-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

Am 2008-04-01 08:59:10, schrieb Andreas Tille:
>  - at least 40 years old

This age is not realy cool...  28 days from now and I am in this...

>  - at least one grown up child to be a "potential grandfather"

Ufff!  only ...father!  --  not for me!  :-)

>  - forget your password once a month

Ufff! --  I was thinking I...

>  - pass the new grandfather queue

:-)

> Technically we try to implement the following changes:
> 
>  - slow down the mouse in X
>  - xmag is per default activated
>  - reduce number of windows on screen to one
>  - if sound enabled than maximum volume
> 
> Feel free to join the project and have fun with other aged Debian people
> 
> Andreas.

Hmmm,  --  I do not know whether I should join a project, which
was started on 1st April...  But the Idea is realy good.    :-)

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Re: Need of non-germany-tree in Debian?

2007-07-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-13 20:48:41, schrieb Malte Hahlbeck:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > The new german LAW is talking about Software which was build to hack
> > sites.  "Security Software like nmap, nessus etc." are not build to
> > do illegal hacking.  (Greetings from my Advocat from Offenburg)
> 
> But they could be used to prepare an attack. It talks about the software
> and not the intention. That's the point.

Example of more which can illegalized:  BaSH and wget

Last week a friend gaved me a link to a Website <http://www-net-art.com/>
where you can get FREE erotic pics by subscribing to a newsletter...  

OK I wrote a procmail recipe, a cronjob and BaSH script which

  1)  extract the 12 indes.html links from the incoming E-Mail
  2)  download each index.html with contents
  3)  spider the index.html and download the 20 big 140 kiB
  JPEG's per index.html
  4)  adapt the links in the index.html
  5)  create a main_index.html for all downloaded index.html.

OK, downloading the stuff (~30 MiB/E-Mail) from the script take 15
minutes (ADSL 8 MBit).  this can ce considered as a DoS on the Wen-
Server and so the LAW can be made to illegalize BaSH and wget.

Note: It is definitivly a DoD since my moroccan freind gaved me 27
E-Mails he has received in the last two month and I have downloaded
the stuff at once...

> The definition of the law is vague, so that it has to be judged to get
> a "real" usable definition. Your lawyer should read the latest juritstic
> comments on that law.

We know it already but since I am involved in some Juridical stuff
between France and Germany...  you can simple overload the Justice and
the Law will be very ridicoulous.  (Collect or create real examples how
to use standard tools to make illegal things and demonstrate it at the
right time -- maybe directly in a Juridical Procedure;
This is was a hint from two judges from Ofenburg and Freiburg)

> > The german Justice can not do anything if I use the tools to secure
> > my network.
> 
> The text of this new law does not make this clear.

Right, and my Lawyer told me the same but he told me so that even Judges
and Attorneys would stop using it since the the justice can be simply
DoS'ed with it.  Only some not realy fit Judges/Attornyes would try to
make the think "bigger" as it is.

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Re: Need of non-germany-tree in Debian?

2007-07-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-13 19:02:03, schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
> also a lot of lawyers neither know the difference between hacking and
> cracking nor know why you should need to use such 'evil' software for
> your own protection.

:-/

Like th CCC where are only bad guys...

Oh yes, they can forbid shell scripts and wget/curl since someone can
do scripts which suck "special" (jpeg) content from erotic sites which
are difficult/slow to access via Webbrowser...

Lawyers!!!

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Re: Need of non-germany-tree in Debian?

2007-07-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-13 20:25:09, schrieb Michael Meskes:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 07:02:03PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > > Interpretation of that law differs. Ask three lawyers, get five answers.
> > >   
> > also a lot of lawyers neither know the difference between hacking and
> > cracking nor know why you should need to use such 'evil' software for
> > your own protection.
> 
> Nor do they know about data protection at all. One lawyer once accused
> us of playing games with her because we refused to send sensible data in
> unencrypted email. And to top it all she told us her system was not
> compromised, so there was no need to send encrypted email. 

Thats heavy!

And then there is this proprietary OS which index your HDD
and send the collected data home whic is definitivly an
illegal access to MY sensible data but allowed by law...

Each day the world become more bizzar...

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Re: Need of non-germany-tree in Debian?

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-06 19:26:44, schrieb Malte Hahlbeck:
> Today the upper House of the German Parliament (Bundesrat)
> decided to declare Security Software like nmap, nessus etc.
> illegal in a way that the software itself and not it's
> criminal use is indictable. That is no Joke. This Law will
> be active when it is published. That should last a few
> weeks. 
> What would be the consequence? Will there be the need of a
> non-germany-tree in the Debian Repositories? This question
> is no joke.

Sorry, but this is NOT REALY RIGHT!

The new german LAW is talking about Software which was build to hack
sites.  "Security Software like nmap, nessus etc." are not build to
do illegal hacking.  (Greetings from my Advocat from Offenburg)

The german Justice can not do anything if I use the tools to secure
my network.  Since i have had over a longer time heavy DoS attacks
on my Server located in Offenburg/BW/Germany, I am already known to
the Justice and the Justice know, that I use such tools.

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Re: Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-06-18 13:26:08, schrieb Mike Hommey:
> Anyways, maybe the general problem is that there should be a way to
> generate locales at the user level (and store everything in ~/.locale,
> for example)

AFAIK does ~/locale already exist beside of ~/man.

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Re: Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Peter and *,

Am 2007-06-16 21:45:46, schrieb Peter Samuelson:
> I suggest a strategy of having locale.config (the script that prompts
> you to generate locales at install time) automatically select any
> locale which matches s/\..*/.UTF-8/ for the locales the user has
> selected.

For some times I was thinking this too and was in train to write
a bugreport for this but have droped it.

Let the user select only locales like  _ would be nice.

> Of course, some users may be annoyed by the additional disk space
> (what, another megabyte or so in /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive?) and
> the additional CPU usage at install/upgrade time.

:-/

Since Xdialog does not support UTF-8 I have written a small BaSH
Function which switch my BaSH APPS into NON-UTF-8 mode IF the
corresponding iso-8859-* locale is availlable. otherwise the $USER
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Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-04-24 19:05:47, schrieb Luis Matos:
> > My CD provides ALL packages for the installation of Office-Workstations
> > and required server (postgresql, apache, nfs, samba, cups, courier...)
> 
> humm ... would you like to share?

I create the CD's per customer and currently I am recreating the
CD's but it is now a little bit difficult since my Build-Computer
is broken and have to replace it.

But looking into the Skole-Linux CD I think, I will integrate some
features I do not have on my CD's (The scripts are rather old, -
over 3 years)

> > This would be definitivly a business clone of Skolelinux.
> yes.
> as i can see, skolelinux has many of this. Maybe some generalization of
> some features for both use and then special features for the business
> one would be nice.

Currentl I use my own very old scripts but switching now to debian-cd
to create my new installation CD's...

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Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Arjan and *,

Am 2007-04-18 15:24:36, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> I would like to start a new sub-project called Debian4Business or perhaps
> Debian-Office.I have a slight preference for the first name, but this is
> discussable of course.

I am open...

> I have a small company, that provides legal services. About 6 months ago (I 
> use
> linux for more than 8 years already) all desktops are running Linux now. The
> people using those desktops have no prior linux experience. I have tried 
> several
> distributions, but with every distribution I see problems appear with the 
> people
> that use it. These problem appear because no distribution is really focused on
> business use within small and mid-sized companies.

I am Debian GNU/Linux Consultant in Strasbourg/Frace and using my own
CDD for my cusomers which is a BUSINESS equivalent for Skolelinux
.

My CD provides ALL packages for the installation of Office-Workstations
and required server (postgresql, apache, nfs, samba, cups, courier...)

> Of course there are some distro's with exactly this goal, however they are
> usually commercial products/forks. Probably all very good distro's but also
> awfully expensive, and that makes them not very interesting for small- and
> mid-sized companies.

FullACK

> I believe there is definetely a 'market' for a business oriented linux based 
> on
> open source/GPL/Debian social-contract, maintained for and by it's users 
> instead
> of a commercial base. The open source/GPL/DSC concept works for individuals, 
> so
> why it wouldn't/couldn't work for businesses?

2800 installations in region Strasbourg(FR), Colmar(FR), Mulhouse(FR),
Kehl(DE) Offenburg(DE), Lahr(DE) and Freiburg(DE) give me a ...  :-)

> My goal with this project is to create a CDD that provides it's users with the
> tools they need to easily install and use the things a small and mid-sized
> business needs in their working environment. This goes for both server and
> desktop tasks. A small and mid-sized company often doesn't have a permanent
> system manager, that's exactly why things have to be simple. Of course it 
> should
> also include the common office tools, like an office package (openoffice), 
> email,
> groupware, etc etc.

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Re: Closing down obsolete lists

2007-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-21 20:28:07, schrieb Martin Schulze:
> Loïc Minier wrote:
> >  Maybe I'm the only one wondering but: why aren't uploads announced to
> >  the *-changes lists anymore?
> 
> Because it's -devel-changes?  the -changes ones were meant for stable.
> (these logs may be missing as well, though).

Right and I was thinking I get  dependant infos.

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Re: Closing down obsolete lists

2007-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-21 20:22:43, schrieb Loïc Minier:
>  Maybe I'm the only one wondering but: why aren't uploads announced to
>  the *-changes lists anymore?
> 
>  I can certainly imagine these lists could be of a providential help for
>  archives maintained outside of Debian or for scripts.

Since I am subscribed to seversl "debian--changes" lists
I was wondering too.  I was meaning, I get REALY infos about
changes on the requested architecture.  Can this be corrected?

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Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Nico and *,

Am 2007-04-10 14:41:03, schrieb Nico Golde:
> No especially not if I get:
> Configuration file `/etc/subversion/config'
>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
>What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
> Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
> N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
>   D : show the differences between the versions
>   Z : background this process to examine the situation
>  The default action is to keep your current version.
> *** config (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Y
> Installing new version of config file /etc/subversion/config ...
> dpkg: error processing subversion (--configure):
>  unable to install updated status of `subversion': No such file or directory
> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08135de8 ***
> Aborted

I had this error in the rcS.d script which do the fsck!

My Intranet server is working since over 2 Month under Etch without ANY
problems up to Sunday!

I am Off.Line and had updated it to the lates Etch-Packages and...

...was burned!

Nothing was working anymore...

nfs-kernel-server (could not export), courier (certs do not more worke)
apache (not found my 280 VServer configs), php5 permission probs...

On my Workststion I have found a Bug in /etc/X11/wdm/Xsession wher the
second line contain only a singel "!".  Change this to "! foo!" and
~/.xession will be read.

I was workin on Monday over 6 Hours on my FileServer and then I have
considered to REINSTALL from scratch (!!!)  wich was working perfectly!

> When updating to etch ;)

:-)


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Re: release update: security problems force "etch" delay of 4-6 weeks

2007-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
The one WHO had send this messages should DOWNWRITE 100 TIMES
the RFC since the "Message-ID:" header is invalid!

It show: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but it should:   Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

And then, I like Ice-Cream and the "From:" was jumping directly
into my eyes... :-)

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Am 2007-03-31 17:04:13, schrieb Debian release team:
> Hi,
> 
> We want to start off this mail by thanking everyone who has put
> effort into fixing our outstanding release-critical bugs, the
> maintainers who have respected the freeze upload policy, and
> everyone else who contributed to Debian "etch" so far.
> 
> That was the good news. Unfortunately, there is also the bad side:
> due to several grave security problems in some of the core packages,
> we cannot release "etch" as originally planned[0] on 2 Apr 2007. By
> rough calculation, we are looking at another 4-6 weeks of work to
> get our archive into a releasable state.
> 
> *** Note that Debian "sarge" is *not* affected by any of this. ***
> 
> Due to the critical nature of the problems found, we deem it
> appropriate to choose the path of responsible disclosure and thus
> cannot give further details at this moment. Please stay tuned for
> updates in the next few days.
> 
> We will continue to stay in deep freeze meaning that you must
> continue to observe the upload policies. You are most welcome to use
> the extra time to flesh out and make some love to the release notes.
> 
> We are sorry for any inconvenience, but we can assure you that you
> are not the only one screwed on this lovely April Sunday morning.
> 
> Your release team.
> 
> 0. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/03/msg00012.html
> 
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Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-10 20:57:43, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez:
> Unfortunately, I don't know of any places within the government, no
> matter how Linux-friendly, that use Debian unless it is "hidden" as the
> underpinnings of something purchased from a contractor or reseller or in
> an embedded device.

I am Ex-Officier (France) and now I am working as PMC (only Research and
IT) vor the Ministry of Defense.  The French has sponsored for some time
Mandrake with 50 millon Euro to build a GOV-OS.

:-P

Mandrake was fucked!

I personaly use Debian since 03/1999 and after some month I told all
people that it will be the OS of the future and trashed ALL of my Win
installations using only Debian GNU/Linux.

OK, they have gaved me a little project...  Debian on Servers!
(Thinking: Let crazy Michelle do!)

NOW, the WHOLE French Army (including Gendarmerie Nationale) is using
Debian on all Servers and...  have forgotten me, which has started it
8 years ago!

In Strasbourg I maintain 23 Debian Servers for the Police Nationale,
4 Servers for the CUS (Communaute Urbain de Strasbourg) and 8 Servers
at the "Hotel de Departement".

All Debian,  --  WHICH IS MY OS OF CHOICE!

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Re: What do (some of) our users await from us?

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Christian and the Rest of the (GNU/Linux) World,

Thanks you for providing this informations...

Am 2007-02-10 17:38:33, schrieb Christian Perrier:
> - Linex from the Region of Extremadura [2]
> - Max from the Autonomous community of Madrid council of education [3]
> - Lliurex from the region of Valencia (Generalitat valienciana) [4]
> - Guadalinux from the region of Andalucia [5]
> - Molinux from the region of Castilla-La Mancha [6]

Realy nice List for Spain...

> "What do *you* think that *we*, Debian project, could do to make your
> work easier?"
> 
> (the subliminal question could have also been "and not choose to base
> you work on something else than genuine Debian")
> 
> The answers were particularly clear, indeed. Let's share:



Asking my customers for arround 2 years have gotten the same result.

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Re: Fw: Kurdish Linux debian

2006-09-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-17 21:20:06, schrieb Lior Kaplan:

> AFAIK. Erdal Ronahi is already did some translations of the debian
> installer to Kurdish [1].

"some translations"?  -

This guy is heavy...  I read his name and see his
translations over many Mailinglists and the BTS.

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Re: Recompilation of ALL Debian packages ...

2006-09-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Martin and *,

Am 2006-08-31 17:11:03, schrieb martin f krafft:

> I would like to know why we can't just discard those binaries and
> rebuild them on trusted machines. Then we get the best of all
> worlds.

I have tried to RECOMPILE some packages in Sarge but failed.
The Binaries are working.  It seems, thet the Maintainer had
used a machine where the Build was successfull, but no other
one can do it because it FTBFS

I am pro source-only uploads, which mean, it will build on a
clean system... 

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Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-08-16 11:08:04, schrieb Russ Allbery:

> I do not want my e-mail address munged or hidden on any of my bug reports
> and will get fairly upset if that happens.  My e-mail address is on my bug
> reports so that people can contact me about those bug reports if need be,
> and I do not want it obscured, hidden, forced through form submission
> pages, or otherwise taken away.

FullACK.  I do not know, why Peoples complaining about spam.  It is
known since many years and since my own E-Mail  is
40.000-80.000 times listet in Google I get per day 500-14.000 spams!

Fortunatly we have procmail and spamassassin and I have no wory about it.

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Re: Algemeine Frage

2006-08-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-06-26 00:14:19, schrieb Michael Banck:
> debian-project is an english list, forwarding to the german support
> list.
> 
> debian-project ist eine englischsprachige Liste, debian-user-de ist
   ^^
Das war eins bei Lehmans 

Besser währe:

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Re: ??themes

2006-04-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Fred,

better you ask this question on 

...and because I hate KDE (and Gnome) and do not use it I can
not help you.

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Am 2006-03-20 13:22:36, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Question, I am a newbie trying linux for the first time. I have
> installed a couple different linux flavors trying to find the
> best one for me. In the others e.g. xandros downloading themes
> was a nightmare. I am still trying to figure out the install
> thing, unlike the simplicity of Win XP. I dont really understand
> the Tar concept. I think that I can not just use any KED downloaded
> theme. What do I look for in a theme to download so it is usable?
> then how does linux or Debian differ from windows as far as opening
> (unpacking the Tar) and installing. other that that I have a handle
> and I will tinker with the rest. From what I have seen so far, I am
> liking linux. I you would please help with this I would be very
> grateful.
> Fred
> 
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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-04-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-21 14:57:07, schrieb MJ Ray:

> Not at all sure! It seems it was finally fixed in debian version
> 1.5.6-20040722+1 (CVS snapshot 20040722), closing Bug 49048.

This maybe the case for List-*, but under 1.2 (Potato)
I had allready listreply.  Cheched for some seconds and
it was allready under Slink with version 0.95.

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-04-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Sorry for the late answer, but I was in Turkey.

Am 2006-03-13 20:20:00, schrieb Benjamin Seidenberg:

> How many Joe/Jane users do you think can handle the complexity and 
> different paradigm required by mutt? These mailers are easy to use, and 

The question is:What is complex?

I have splited the muttrc in smaller logical files and coded a simpel
xdialog interface which can someone use to configure mutt basicly.

But where is the problem?

If you have a GUI, you must read, where to set options.
Same if you open your muttrc in your prefered editor.

So its only an excuise for braidamaged Windows-Users.

AND, -- how often do you change your setings?

I have changed my muttrc the last time for 2 or three years.
Only added some lists to my "subscribe" include

> are well integrated into the desktop environment. Most importantly, they 
> offer GUI/Point-and-Click interfaces so that they are easy to use.

Where is the different between "r", "L" and "g" and the mouse?

I read and write my Messages with my hands and these are laying
on my Keyboard.  If there are no Keybindings I need a Mouse, for
which I must leave my Keyboard...  This is non-productiv!

> (I want to set up mutt eventually, but I don't have the time to relearn 
> mail at the mmomment. Perhaps this summer).

What do you want to learn?

I was switchin in 03/1999 from WfW3.11/NT4.0 to Debian entirely,
one day to another after someone borke into my appartement and
had stolen my whole M$ Software for more then 80.000 US$.

Becasue M$ wont replace and I had no money, I had to switch to
GNU/Linux.  Now I am since 7 years M$-Free!

Oh the MUA...  It was Eudora Lite/Pro and the I have use mutt.
the defaults are allready suitable for working under Debian.

> Again, how many Joe users are going to install extensions or mess around 
> with their prefs.js to set up arbitrary headers ("headers? what are 
> those")? This sort of thing has to work out of the box for everyone.

Do they need such stuff?  What "arbitrary headers" should the set?
I do not knoe one, which must be set, to post/reply correctly to
Mailinglists.

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-04-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Sorry, for the late answer, but I was in Turkey...
(creating a new enterprise in Denizli/Ankara)

Am 2006-03-22 12:15:29, schrieb Sven Mueller:

> Huh? I do just that on a regular basis. And Thunderbird doesn't load
> external pics from mails in either online or offline mode unless you

I do not mean the external pics...  I meen the inline ones...  On the
Debian-List there are several subscribers, which use crapy WebMailer
which add publicity in form of Pics at the end.

> specifically ask it to do so. You probably didn't try TB for a long time.

Very right.

> If you are a developer, you can't also be a "normal user". You have
> higher skills than the normal user.

OK.

> I second urging devs to implement List-Reply stuff though. But I don't
> recommend implementing M-F-T (though I don't advise against it either).

Currently I am coding a KDE/Gnome-free IMAP-MUA, based
on the ideas of mutt but for X-Window, using GTK+ 2.0.

I collect many ideas to code my MUA.  ;-)

So this M-F-T/List-Reply Thread is realy interesting...

> >>Also, it's not like we are discussing about mailers for a propietary
> >>OS, but it's a free mailer that works inside Debian.
> > 
> > ...where some Developpers of MUA's thinking, they must make the
> > Linuxpedants compatibel with BS ware from a proprietary OS.
> 
> ?? I don't get what you mean here. Do you mean that Thunderbird devs try
> to make TB compatible with Outlook? They certainly don't. Do you mean

I was on teh Mozilla and Thunderbird Lists (some other MUA's too)
and the trend is going into the direction of Windows stuff...

To make OUR Linux suitable for Windows-Switchers...

> that TB is BS? It certainly isn't. I don't have any idea what else you
> could mean.

I think, copying those Windows stuff is the false way.  I like to
code more strict based on RFC's not on some ideas of a proprietary
software which could be nice features.

What I want to say is, some peoples know allready abourt my MUA (GUI
already coded with basic functions) but those $USERS are Winnies,
and they claim I should code things, against RCF and all...

Those are only Windows Gadgets I have never used and never missed.
OK, I have put it onto a wishlist, but...

...you know, we are "hobby" coders and coding for fun and freedom.
I must work hard for my money and if someone wants a professionel
program, why not, but I need money to live (6000 Euro per month).

So, Mozilla-Mail and Thunderbird are implementing one feature after
one, but nothing realy wise.  Oh, I have a big wishlist for Mozilla
and Sisters, but if I post them, the Developers send me some jobles
russian KGB killers.  Maybe CIA and MOSSAD.

> cu,
> sven

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-20 14:37:53, schrieb MJ Ray:

> You mean like mutt, which does not respect standards and
> implements the buggy non-standard Mail-Followup-To, while not

The "Mail-Followup-To:" works perfectly.

> implementing standards like List-* headers? I'm ill-placed to

???  -  It works perfectly too.  Since years!

> submit that bug report because I don't use it. Why don't you?

Which Bug?

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Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 14:45:25, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:

> > There were < 100 subscribers from uol.com.br and that ISPs challenge /
> > response mechanism is affecting (at least) > 5000 people.
> 
> First, the hurt of even one innocent person being kicked out is, again
> in my opinion, bigger than the pain from having to delete autoresponses.

I have gotten more then 1000 of them!

> Second, I doubt that there are over five thousand posters on the lists
> in question. I could be wrong, of course.

Two lists:  and 

> Thanks, I enjoy being compared to spammers.

1st)  I have not ask to get over 1000 CR's from someone I do not know.
2nd)  I have tried to click on the link several times but it continued
  to bother me every day with CR's.

> * The bounce test you sent in December did not seem to use VERP, that
> is, sending the test message so that the Return-Path and From headers
> are both specific to the recipient. Have you tried that? (I am guessing
> here that the bounce test didn't work because the automatic response
> didn't have any indication which message it was a response to. VERPs are
> one way of doing that.)

Right, I have checked on of those mails I have gotten to.  The messges
does not look like a message coming from the Mailinglist, becasue it
was sliping throgh my filters and ended in my SPAM-Folder.

I would suggest to create a Message which is EXACTLY like the list
messages but with a modified Subject line like

"Question about filtering CR reponses with no $SERIAL"

Where $SERIAL is a numeric identifier of the subscribers of the list.


> * Ask someone in Brazil to call up the petsupermarket people on the
> phone and see who there is interested in Debian and if they could please
> not forward their Debian list subscriptions to uol.com.br?

Allready done...  no success!

> * Do a big "spring/fall cleanup" and unsubscribe *everyone*, with due
> advance notice of course. The linux-kernel list did that at least once,
> many years ago. This is different from kicking off only uol.com.br
> subscribers, since it will get rid of the offending address (and also
> any other people who are too lazy to unsubscribe, of course). Admittedly
> it is highly radical. (When people re-subscribe, keep time stamps of
> when they do that, to correlate with if the problem still comes back.)

No good idea...

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Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 15:33:28, schrieb Marc Haber:

> Looks like the CR system is quite selective in whom it bothers. I am a
> regular poster on the Debian mailing lists, and I never receive these
> CR messages.

Maybe your (excessiv) spamfilter has eaten it?  It seems, becasue I
have gotten more then 1000 from three different <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

> Greetings
> Marc

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Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
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* Keine Cc: am mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe *
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Hello Anand and all others.

I get no spam from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> anymore.

How it was done?

One time I have gotten a couple of those SPAM's from other ISP's and
considered to write a small script which forward those messages to
the whole staff of the ISP!

UOL:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For each CR I get I collect e-mails from ther ISP.

Now if a CR from an allready known ISP comes in, I create automagicaly
a forward and send them back.  But not as bulk.  I send singel messages
to track down, which are broken and because it goes automaticly, it
cost me no time.

Now imagine if only 100 List-Users install there procmail or maildrop
recipe.  The CR-ISP will get bombed every time ist Mailserver send a CR.

This cost resources on there end... I have checked my procmail log and
I have send more then 8000 messages to the UOL-Staff in arround 3 weeks.

Maybe we should think about it to spread this idea. which works for
me privately, even if I am currently Off-Line and must download 2500
messages per day in an Internet Cafe with my Laptop...

Forwarding of a CR cost my LiteLine (P2/266, 128 MB) arround 2 sec/msg.

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Am 2006-03-13 14:20:17, schrieb Anand Kumria:
> Hi,
> 
> As some of you may be aware it appears a subscriber at uol.com.br is
> receiving emails from various Debian mailing lists and then responding
> to the private address with a challenge / response email from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Unfortunately, despite repeated attempts to get in contact with someone
> appropriate at uol.com.br (via whois, standard abuse@ and postmaster@
> and hostmaster addresses) no one over there has bothered to respond.
> 
> That means that as of now, uol.com.br are now considered spam addresses
> and anyone with that address (uol.com.br) has now been unceremoniously
> unsubscribed[1].
> 
> Perhaps this action will prompt some kind of response from the powers
> that be at uol.com.br; but the listmasters are not holding their breath.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anand - on behalf of the listmasters.
> 
> [1]: They are also being BCC so that they are aware of the reason.
> 
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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-17 09:49:19, schrieb Matthias Julius:
> Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm still waiting for anyone to recommend a MUA which works on at least
> > Linux and Windows (yes, that evil OS), preferably also on MacOSX and
> > supports MFT.
> 
> Gnus.

Mutt

> Others might be available under Cygwin.

Hmmm, even this Eudora 3 which once used under
WfW 3.11 has done the job right.

Sorry, never used Win95, Win98, Win2000 or WinXP.
So I do not know about those OS.

> Matthias

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-16 21:33:18, schrieb Sven Mueller:

> I'm still waiting for anyone to recommend a MUA which works on at least
> Linux and Windows (yes, that evil OS), preferably also on MacOSX and
> supports MFT.

You should use "mutt", which works on linux, BeOS, MacOSX and
since some time now on Win32 without the need of Cygwin.

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-14 12:13:50, schrieb Manoj Srivastava:

> If these Jane/Joe users want a reliable copy of the message,
>  then they should subscribe to the mailing list -- or hope that an
>  explicit request for a CC is honored. Nothing actually guarantees a CC
>  anyway -- but setting MFT increases their chances of a reply from
>  people like me, whose MUA's are configures to honor an MFT.

Right and I think, all friendly $REPONDERS honor MFT.

I have "set Honor_Mail-Followup_to=yes" in mutt.

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 20:20:00, schrieb Benjamin Seidenberg:

> How many Joe/Jane users do you think can handle the complexity and 
> different paradigm required by mutt? These mailers are easy to use, and 
> are well integrated into the desktop environment. Most importantly, they 
> offer GUI/Point-and-Click interfaces so that they are easy to use.

Feel free and write bugreports against those MUA's which lakes
of features and do not respect standards...  This will make
the life of GUI/Point-and-Click $USERS much easier...

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 16:02:18, schrieb Margarita Manterola:

> Thunderbird is a very respected MUA.  There's a big group of people
> who don't feel comfortable writing mails from mutt (or the like), and
> I don't think it's such a good idea to take into account only people
> who can use a console-client to be able to receive a reply on a
> mailing-list.

Sorry Margarita, but now I am around 7 years on Debian lists (First
with Eudora 3 under WfW 3.11 and then Debian with mutt) and except
Copy-and-Past I miss nothing with mutt.

I have troied to use Mozilla-Mail as well as Thunderbird, but those
are crap, specialy if I try to read Mails offline and get HTML-Mails
which try to download tonns of pics...

> We are not talking about developers, we are talking about anyone who
> needs to send a mail to a mailing-list and get a reply.

I am developper and normal-user.  Encourage developers of MUA's to
code List-Reply stuff...

> Also, it's not like we are discussing about mailers for a propietary
> OS, but it's a free mailer that works inside Debian.

...where some Developpers of MUA's thinking, they must make the
Linuxpedants compatibel with BS ware from a proprietary OS.

> I think that we need to take a bit more consideration for people who
> are not so technically-able but that might still have something to
> say, or rather, something to get answers to.
> 
> Also, the list policy says that you don't send CCs by default, but
> that you'll send a CC if asked to, so I'd say it's pretty much our job
> to make sure that the mail goes where it should.

Right and never I have ask for Cc: because I am on 68 Debian Lists.

I get per day arround 20-40 Cc's which make my live hard to reply.
Specialy if $STUPIDUSER set me into Bcc: where I can not determiner
whether it is a Cc: or not.  Peoples sending unwanted Cc: to me
bother me and they can not expect an answer from me.

+---[ '/home/michelle.konzack/.procmail/FLT_cced' ]---
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| # FLT_cced
| # 
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| LOG=$TDPID"FLT_cced  : pass$NL"
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| {
|   :0
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Here I filter stuff from list where I know some stupid
peoples sending all the day tonns of Cc: to me...

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 11:11:18, schrieb Wouter Verhelst:

> Whoa, then you must not like many mail clients.

:-)

> Manoj, there are little mail clients who allow to add arbitrary headers
> to mails. Really. The only exceptions are console-based clients, like
> mutt and gnus. I don't even think Pine can do it.

Hey, even 'mc' can do it!  ;-)

xedit+ssmtp can do the job to, but it requires to steps ot writing
a short bash script, which handel de esit status of ssmtp.

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 11:05:50, schrieb Manoj Srivastava:

> > Thunderbird, as well as many other MUAs doesn't allow you to set
> > arbitrary headers, including M-F-T.
> 
> I guess it is time to move to a more capable MUA, no?

FullACK!

I am on the Debian mailinglists since 04/1999 and never had
problems  with the lists.  From 1999 to 2001 it was Eurora 3
(running under WfW 3.11) and then I was switching fully to
Debian and mutt.

I do not know, what we can do with such thread because some
MUA's are to stupid (mabe some $USERS to lazzy to configure
something correctly).

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-11 02:42:27, schrieb Matthias Julius:

> I am using Gnus.  I have it setup to send followups to the list only.
> When I do a followup it goes to the list, a reply goes to the sender
> and a "very wide reply" goes to both.  I wonder what the group-reply
> command in mutt does.

r   Reply-To poster

l   Reply-To list

g   Reply to all recipients
which are in "To:", "Cc:", "From:", "Reply-To:" and
"Mail-Followup-To:".  If someone set Explicit Reply-To: she/he
maybe get two messages, because mutt put them into To: and Cc:

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Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-03 19:28:50, schrieb Glenn Maynard:

> It's even worse with complex cross-posting, where several lists and several
> individuals are being copied.  Neither list-reply nor group-reply does the

Can you imagin, that peoples hate cros-postres?
Cross-Posting is DISCURAGED!!!

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Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-11 01:34:09, schrieb Glenn Maynard:
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:49:00AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
> > Anyway, since MFT is not a formal standard does your MUA not have an
> > easy way to CC the sender?
> 
> Mutt has a configuration var somewhere to tell it whether to CC or not
> by default on list followups.  I have it set not to, and I have to add
> the CC manually if I want it.  I'm sure Mutt is capable enough that it's
> possible to bind a key to "enable CC, start list followup, revert CC"
> or something, but I'm not inclined to spend that much time bending over
> backwards to implement other people's preferences, when there's a well-
> known way for them to make it happen automatically.

mutt can:

set followup_to=yes (default in Debian)
set honor_followup_to=yes   (default in Debian)
set ignore_list_reply_to=no (default in Debian)
set reply_to=ask-yes(default in Debian)

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Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi John,

Am 2006-03-01 09:48:45, schrieb John H. Robinson, IV:

> In the signature would probably be poor, as the lowlighting would hide
> it, and who really reads the signatures, anyway? The best place is
> probably right before the signature. A simple one line things: Please cc
> me, I am not subscribed to the list.

This what the "Mail-Followup-To:" is for!

IF the Sender want a Reply, she/he shoud set this Header.

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Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-02 04:25:27, schrieb Glenn Maynard:

> Just as a thought, I wonder if it's possible for the list software to
> automatically add an MFT header, if it's missing, indicating that only
> people not subscribed to the list, or explicitly in the CC list, should
> be CC'd.

The "Mail-Followup-To:" Header is FOR THEW SENDER
and not for the mailinglist!

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Re: mirror size

2006-03-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-02-27 15:16:32, schrieb michael poeltl:
> Dear all,
> 
> I'd liked to mirror the debian ftp-site ...
> 
> I tried already to mirror the ftp.debian.at mirror ... but after ca
> 170G my 
> harddisk was full ...  :-(

I have allready 870 GByte of Debian-Mirror.  OK, inclueded
all older versions Pakages since Woody and is more complete
then <http://snapshoot.debian.net/>.

> so, right now I bought a 300G disk ... but does anybody know the exact
> size of 
> the whole debian-ftp-site? Is it mentioned somewhere on the web?

Please look at the Mailinglist archive for

 

> thanks for your help!
> 
> Michael

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Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Sven,

Sorry for the late reponse, but I am currently Off-Line.

Am 2006-02-13 15:54:23, schrieb Sven Luther:

> Like the mips binary which is part of the tg3 (or some other of those) driver
> and uploaded to to the mips core on the card in question ? 
> 
> Does that mean that we will also distribute binary only drivers for broadcom
> wifi chips in main ?

I think, between this two passages are very big differences.

The first one load a BLOB/Firmware into a Hardware which runs
ON the Hardware and not in the OS.

The later one, runs the BLOB/firmware inside the OS, where we
can have influence.

In the last years I have created some Hardware myself and I am
using CPU's 386EX und 486/5x86.  I am using SRAM/NVRAM to store
OS, which is written entirely in ASM.

Now this software ca not run in the hostsystem of the hardware I
have created.  So what now?

Why should I distribute the Sourcecode? - What are your interests?
If someone buy my hardware, he get a userspace tool to upload the
Firmare and run the hardware.  And now it is non-free?

Another hardware is the Maxim/Dallas One-Wire technologie.  I have
recently bought all sensores and put it into a serial line driven
network.  I have coded kernel modules (2.4/2.6) which write into
"/proc/driver/onewire/" and I controll the One-Wire Hardware
form the OS.  Here we have the influence, whether we provide the
sourcecode or not.  -  main or non-free.

I think, the discusion about Firmware which IS required on some
external hardware only (and does not run in the OS) is beside not
to call it ridiculous.

Note:   I have made Debian-Packages for the Firmware BLOBs of my
Hardware so $USER can upload it easyly to the Hardware.

And now again:  Why do you want the Source-Code of a perfectly
working Hardware which you can not modify?

> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther

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Re: Linux Forums

2006-01-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-01-25 14:28:29, schrieb Anders Breindahl:

> I might pitch in, here. Almost two years ago, I have been in the
> community for almost two years, and in my experience, web forums are
> useless. Generally, of course.
> 
> As a new GNU/Linux user, you have some rather recurring questions:
> - I have this crazy Windows habit -- how is that done in GNU/Linux?
> - I lack a replacement for this Windows program
> And, the less trivial:
> - I can't get this to compile
> 
> The way I see it, the first two bullets should be covered in some
> central document. Does Debian have a migrating-from-Windows guide?

Not directly in Debian, but there is a "Windows-To-Linux-HOWTO".

I think, it should entirely rewritten.

Maybe a 100% Debian-Rewrite on how-to let Debian do the same things
as Windows but better, without reboot-orgies and Bluescreen.  :-)

> The last bullet is the interesting one, as some community interaction is
> required. Rather often, I look back and think, that I would have been so
> much better off mailing a mailing list with my troubles. I searched the
> web, crawled forums, and my all-in-all trivial question could more
> easily be answered at d-u. My problem was, that I was afraid of mailing
> lists (that is, how the experienced community would react).
> Once that fear was overcome, I had no trouble using mailing lists. In
> fact, the superior degree of seriousness is very appreciated.

:-)

> So, IMHO, Debian needs to integrate new users more into the mailing
> lists -- at least, rather than forking the community.

Why not make a combination between ML and Forum?  Exactly, an advanced
List-Archive a la YahooGroups!  This would be a benefit for all.

> Also, some quick-start links from the download pages would be smart.
> Most of us use some 10m - 2h on downloading a disc, while sitting more
> or less idle in whatever working operating system. We could encourage
> people to jump across a few lightly-read guides?

FullACK!

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Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-01-18 10:31:42, schrieb Pascal Hakim:

> Heh. The 2005 list archives are 780 Mb (gziped)

  __( command 'ls -Al ~/public_html/lists.debian.org/debian-user/' )
 /
| insgesamt 43780
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2408540 25. Jul 2004  1999-04.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server  71268 25. Jul 2004  1999-06.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server 595121 25. Jul 2004  1999-07.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server 908968 25. Jul 2004  1999-08.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server1928313 25. Jul 2004  1999-09.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server 237141 25. Jul 2004  1999-10.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server1287671 25. Jul 2004  1999-11.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server1453907 25. Jul 2004  1999-12.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2332946 25. Jul 2004  2000-01.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server1500829 25. Jul 2004  2000-02.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server   4779 25. Jul 2004  2000-04.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2700914 25. Jul 2004  2002-11.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2853803 25. Jul 2004  2002-12.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2485608  8. Jan 17:57 2005-03.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server3087379  8. Jan 17:58 2005-04.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2662485  8. Jan 18:13 2005-05.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server3469826  8. Jan 18:13 2005-06.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server3164760  8. Jan 18:13 2005-07.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server3042428  8. Jan 18:14 2005-08.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2912035  8. Jan 18:24 2005-09.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2758830  8. Jan 18:24 2005-10.tar.gz
| -rw-rw-r--1 lists.de server2838355  8. Jan 18:25 2005-11.tar.gz
 \__

:-)

> Cheers,
> Pasc

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Re: [OT] Re: Deu no Jornal

2006-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-01-19 13:32:56, schrieb Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw):

>   Ok, it is a news (probably spam) about trucks that are
> going to do an experimental test with Mc'Donalds vegetal oil
> used to fry food, the "used oil" will serve as fuel. :-)

Will this stop the US-Oil-War in Irak and the aggresion of Iran?

>   Kind regards,

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Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-01-18 04:49:26, schrieb Madana Prathap:

> As my "from:" indicates, Gmail doesn't exactly suffer from a lack of space  
> as such. What I did mean by clogging, is visual - a few hundred list mails  
> a day, are enough to make your inbox look messy.

???  -  What about mailfiltering as the messages are coming in?

In procmail I have an INCLUDERC for Debian:

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Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-01-18 03:03:49, schrieb Madana Prathap:
> Hi,
> I've been subscribed to 12 debian mailing-lists. As you could imagine, my  

I am on 73

> mailbox is simply over-flowing now, with the number of mails & the  

Get between 1500 and 2700 messages per day.

> frequency. To avoid the struggle, I would like to subscribe to a "daily  
> digest" of mails on the lists.

;-P

Daily two digest of 1 MByte from  and ?

> digests as an option when subscribing from the web itself. What I want to  
> know is how to modify my existing subscription for all these lists, to  
> receive daily digests instead of individual mails.

There is no such option.

> I dont want to unsubscribe, so please dont point me in that direction.

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Re: unsubscription problems

2005-12-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Vera,

Unsubscribing does not require confirmation.

Try to send an EMPTY message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
with the subject

unsubscribe

and its done.

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> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying to unsubscribe Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from
> debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> 
> I used this page twice but it didn't work:
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe
> 
> This gmail a/c is setup to receive emails sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Every day this a/c puts over 200 "Mail Delivery System" / "Mail
> delivery failed" emails into the Spam folder.
> Is it possible that this filter affects the unsubscription?
> 
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Re: Programmieren mit Delphi

2005-10-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
He has Linux but like to program as with Delphi and is searching
for such IDE/Strukture.

Am 2005-10-15 10:02:07, schrieb Cristaino Ronaldo:
> Meine Damen und Herren,

Who, das ist ganz schön förmlich!

Hallo Cristaino,

> ich habe linux möchte aber wie mit Delphi
> Programmieren welche Programmier sprache ist genau so

Von Borland wird Kylix, die Linux Version von Delphi kostenlos
zur verfügung gestellt.  Da ich mein Delphi/VB/BC++ Development
vor 6 Jahren aufgegeben habe, kann ich nicht sagen wie der
derzeitoge stand mit Kylix ist.

> wie Delphi und kann sie bei Linux benutzen währe nett
> wenn ich eine antwort bekommen würde und wo bekomme
> ich das programm her und es sollte kostelos sein danke

Ich denke, Das in diesem sinne sowas wie Kdevelop (in Debian)
für sie was währe.  Da ich aber nicht mit KDE arbeite, kann ich
auch hier keine weiteren Auskünfte erteilen.

Mir persönlich reicht mein Texteditor mit Syntax Hilitening
auf der Console, wie ich es schon vor 21 Jahren unter Dos/Unix
gemacht habe

> mfg
> Justin

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Re: Debian 3.0 Bin. CDs, tried in vain to buy it on-line.

2005-07-31 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Cyril,

Am 2005-07-31 11:19:51, schrieb Cyril:
> Dear Sirs,
> 
> Could you help me to get those 7 CDs with Ix86 Binary Debian 3.0 Woody. 

Are you sure you want those old ones ?
The new version "Sarge" 3.1 is 13 CD's.

> I leave in Moscow and it seems that Moscow's vendors haven't got it 
> currently available. While those other vendors (USA 
> (http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#us), UK, Australia, Canada, South 
> Africa, Ireland, Malaysia, Singapore, further, sorry, I already don't 
> remember), as I have noticed, don't accept money from Russian Federation 
> or don't ship it to me to Moscow or price it more expensive than Windows 
> costs. (I am trying to get it maybe already for an entire year. And, 
> please, take into account that my native language is Russian and I also 
> can use English a little bit.)

Whay not trying in: <http://www.linuxland.de/>

They ship worldwide from germany which is less expensive as
from the USA or Australia and they accept Different payments.

> Thanking you in anticipation,
> Cyril, Esq.

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 17:11:15, schrieb Adam McKenna:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 01:00:28AM +0100, Rich Walker wrote:
> > Why should Debian *advertise* the services of someone who will not
> > return the favour?
> 
> Why should a consultant be *forced* to advertise for Debian in order to
> obtain listing in our directory?  To me, this smacks of the kind of additional
> restriction that we would call 'non-free' if it were placed on a piece of
> code.

The problem is, they are some of them which not more support Debian :-/

So if there is a Customer which need a Debian (!!!) Consultant,
he/she will be frustrated about such contacts.

For two years I had the need for Help from another Debian-Consultant
and I have had to call 14 of them in my region (Alsace/France and
Baden-Würtemberg/Germany).

Belive me, - it IS frustrating!

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-16 01:00:28, schrieb Rich Walker:

> > That's your opinion. I beg to differ. For example, you might have a
> > consultancy company that does, as a policy, not link to any products
> > they sell and support. Why should Debian demand to be listed there?
> 
> Why should Debian *advertise* the services of someone who will not
> return the favour?

ACK

> In fact, it may be counter-productive - if you *need* a Debian
> consultant, pick a couple of random consultants from a long list and
> find they don't mention Debian on their website, then you are inclined
> to reject the *whole* list as useless.

It was my experience, because some new Customers had ask
me about the List (some Debian-Consultants do not more
exist or do not respond to E-Mails or phone calls.

> As the kind of person who uses the Debian Consultant list as part of the
> company risk-management strategy, I *need* them to say "Debian" on the
> web page. After all, the risk I'm managing is the one where I won't be
> able to explain this kind of thing to everyone else :-<
> 
> cheers, Rich.

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 17:16:14, schrieb Luk Claes:

> Hi

> > I is like Joey and debian/security.
> 
> I don't think you know the details about his situation, nor is it a good
> idea to attack persons in public without a little bit of research...

Why, it seems that he is th only person working on security
and parallel managing the Linuxtag 2005 in Karlsruhe.

I have very well read, what he has done...
And I know some of the Security-Team Members are inactiv curently.

> > Debian need to increase the Team :-)
> 
> As before, please first take the time to investigate a problem before
> suggesting solutions!

So what do you need exactly ?

I am already helping 4 DM Co-Maintaining some packages.
Parallel I am in creeation of my "CyberCenter Network"
in Morocco which is entirly based on Debian.

Do you need help on the Debian Project ?
Feel free to ask me.

> Cheers
> 
> Luk

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 16:15:00, schrieb Luk Claes:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Hello Thomas,
> 
> Hi (though Thomas is not the only reader of [EMAIL PROTECTED])

:-)
But it seems, because how it is possibel to have an endless backlog?

:-/
I is like Joey and debian/security.

> I don't know what happened with your first message, but only your
> message of 9 days ago has arrived and will be acted on if we come to it
> in FIFO order.

Are this "the pings" or NEW consultants ?
If the first one, it should be handled seperatly.

> Please, come back when it is so much and keep in mind that it was far
> more worse due to a huge backlog that is now at about 100 messages.

Debian need to increase the Team :-)

> Cheers
> 
> Luk

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Re: A new banner for Sarge

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 16:34:59, schrieb Remi Vanicat:

> "aptitude purge" does the trick

But there is no equivalent option for /etc/apt/apt.conf

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Re: A new banner for Sarge

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 16:28:10, schrieb René van Bevern:
> On 15.07.05, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> Hi Michelle,
> 
> > To accept aptitude fully, it should suppoert the
> > "--purge" option of apt-get because I do not like
> > tonns of old configs laying around...
> 
> It does. As "aptitude help" might have shown you, there is "aptitude
> purge package-name".

But no config option like

  __( '/etc/apt/apt.conf' )_
 /

| APT::Get::Purge "true";
^^^
| Aptitude::Delete-Unused "true";

This removes packages but leave configs.

| Aptitude::UI::New-Package-Commands "true";
| Aptitude::UI::Pause-After-Download "true";
| Aptitude::Description-Visible-By-Default "false";
| Aptitude::Prompt-On-Exit "false";
| Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade "true";
| Aptitude::Suggests-Important "false";
| Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";
| Aptitude::Auto-Fix-Broken "true";
| Aptitude::Auto-Install "true";
 \__

An "Aptitude::Purge "true" does not work.
It should be included in the Config

> René

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 16:30:56, schrieb Nico Golde:
> Hi,
> * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 16:12]:
> > I have already send two Messages to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in a delay
> > of two month and like to know, how long does it take to be included ?
> > 
> > Over two month to wait is definitiv to much.
> 
> How do we handle consultants who don't say anything about
> debian and their services related to debian on their
> website? Is this legal?

Realy good question...

I was thinking about this too, because some of my clients had ask me
about Mandiva, Redhat (stoped in 06/1999) and SuSE which I do not know.

I have installed the above three distris but I have the hell with it.
Better the above manufacturere of the Distris offer ther service, but
not me.

Debian works several times better then the above ones. I am using the
OpenLogo of Debian which makes clear with which Distribution I work

And the effect:

I have gotten the clients, because they WHERE searching for a Debian-
Consultant.  Those clients had exactky the same negativ experienxe
with other Distributions like me.

Oh yes, they have found me via several mailinglists, and my always
present signature.

> Regards Nico

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 16:28:18, schrieb Thomas Huriaux:
> Hi Michelle,
> 
> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (15/07/2005):
> > I have already send two Messages to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in a delay
> > of two month and like to know, how long does it take to be included ?
> 
> As written on http://www.debian.org/consultants/
>   Please note that we are currently processing a backlog of requests
>   (roughly 100), so you'll need a bit of patience before your entry
>   will appear on this page.

:-/
 
> I can only say that the backlog is decreasing, and that you will have to
> wait a little bit more.
> 
> > Over two month to wait is definitiv to much.
> 
> I fully agree with you, this delay won't exist anymore in a few months.
> Just give us the time to finish the update and to deal with the backlog.

And if all is working fine for me I have a new delay.  :-)
Because I will migrate to Morocco!  :-D

Hey, then I will be without concurence there :-)

> Regards,

Greetings
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Re: A new banner for Sarge

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 14:06:52, schrieb Florian Weimer:
> * René van Bevern:
> 
> > The "apt-get into it" is hard to read because the space between each
> > letter is almost as much as the space between each word.
> 
> It's also a bit unfortunate because we recommend to use aptitude.

To accept aptitude fully, it should suppoert the
"--purge" option of apt-get because I do not like
tonns of old configs laying around...

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Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Thomas,

I have already send two Messages to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in a delay
of two month and like to know, how long does it take to be included ?

Over two month to wait is definitiv to much.

Greetings
Michelle


Am 2005-07-06 11:00:06, schrieb Thomas Huriaux:
> Hi,
> 
> According to the policy for the consultants page [1], the consultant
> must answer e-mails within four weeks. All the not recently
> updated/added consultants have been pinged, and we are still waiting for
> an answer from the 245 consultants in the attached list.
> 
> They will receive a last chance e-mail in the next few days, and will be
> removed one week after this mail if they don't answer.
> 
> [1] http://www.nl.debian.org/consultants/#policy
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: debian logo used by some foundation...

2005-07-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-15 00:41:37, schrieb Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 12:30:38AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > > I have found this page, where the debian logo it's being used as part of 
> > > their logo: http://www.fundacionpacifica.com/
> > 
> > Hmmm, I have seen the Swirl on many places over the Internet,
> > I think, it was a template or something like this, which you
> > can find on cheap CD roms flying around in the internet.
> 
> So Debian logo has been stolen from some templates?

Not directly stolen, but...
 
> That would imply that the most visible part of our project is non-free.
> Where did you see those CDs?

...those CD's are Cliparts Galleries and it was some years ago.

Most of this Cliparts can used freely.

And I think it was on d-legal where last year (???) someone
already written about this.  Maybe it is only a similar Logo
but I think, I have seen something on the Corel Draw Suite
version 5 which I had bought in 1995.

> regards
> fEnIo

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Re: debian logo used by some foundation...

2005-07-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-07-14 13:16:30, schrieb Carlos Torres Almonte:
> Hi,
> 
> I have found this page, where the debian logo it's being used as part of 
> their logo: http://www.fundacionpacifica.com/

Hmmm, I have seen the Swirl on many places over the Internet,
I think, it was a template or something like this, which you
can find on cheap CD roms flying around in the internet.

> I also think that the webdesigners have something to do with this. They 
> are http://www.goldendesign.com/

But those Website does not more exist.
 
> They have been already contacted for this.
> 
> Thanks for your time.

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Re: The archive.debian.org situation

2005-06-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-06-06 22:56:46, schrieb Joey Hess:

> snapshot.d.net already has most of the files in archive, at least for
> newer distributions, and AFAIK plans to keep them indefinitely. Maybe

I know, since Woody.

I have a full debian-archive from Buzz to Potato (CD's only partialy).
<ftp://ftp.freenet.de/debian-archive/> is fortunatly complete too.
I have gotten my Mirror there.

> something smart could be done to leverage that and base archive.d.o on
> the same machine?

I was thinking about this too and it will be the best idea.
 
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Re: The archive.debian.org situation

2005-05-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-05-30 12:28:06, schrieb Anonymous:

> Actually potato is still in the main archive as old-stable.

No, it is not. There is no Server which hold ols-stable.

The Only Server I know, which is hosting buzz, rezz, bo, hamm, slink
and potato completly is <ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/> and in the next
days will try to mirror the whole POTATO tree (without i386) which
is missing on my local 430 GByte Debian wirror.

> Debian-archive contains old-old-stable and previous.
> However potato will need to be moved to debian-archive when sarge goes 
> stable, so I fear that revival of debian-archive is sarge rc.

Potato had to remove because SARGE is already to big !!!

I think, I need around 900 GByte to store all from buzz via sarge
and etch to sid.  Need at least 4 new SCSI (SATA) 147 GByte Drives.

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Re: Way you not support DLink 650+

2005-05-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-05-18 10:48:18, schrieb M.Schweizer:
> Debian its a good Product , about wats Missing its Real or Helix Player 
> and Skipe or a nother IP Free Client (XTEN) All important Freeware its 

Freeware != OpenSourceSoftware.

> not integrate. Wireless support only US Products. Noting install 
> automatic if its a Wireless Card for a Laptop 0 Chance to fund. Not 
> exist, its comment if you tray to install by Menue.

Why not contribute to the Debian Project ?
You are free to join us.

> I hope caming better !
> 
> Martin Schweizer,Switzerland

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Re: Fehlende ISO?

2005-05-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Reinhard,

Wenn man Dir hier auf der Liste helfen soll,
solltest Du in englisch schreiben, aber:

Am 2005-05-17 13:38:49, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hallo,
> 
> ich lade mir seit kurzem das Debian Sarge für die Alphaplattform herunter.
> (http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/alpha/)
> Allerdings kommt nach CD 9 schon CD 11. Wurde die CD 10 vergessen oder
> gibt es sie einfach nicht?

Versuch es einfach mit:

debian-testing-alhpha-binary-10.iso

was das gleiche wie 

sarge-alpha-10.iso

ist.

> Grüße
> Reinhard Eigner

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Re: what is debian

2005-04-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-04-19 19:29:46, schrieb benkaci tarik:
> good morning
> what is debian site

The feedom and heaven for computer users

AND THE HELL FOR MICROSOFT AND SCO.  :-)

Debian is a GNU/Linux Distribution based on Open Source Software (OSS).
GNU/Linux can replace the proprietary Operation System Windows(TM).

Please have a look at:

In french:  <http://www.debian.org/index.fr.html>

or in english:  <http://www.debian.org/>

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Re: Popularity of Debian/Download of packages

2005-01-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-01-22 14:05:00, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hi,

> Possible sources of inaccuracy with this technique:

> +Machines which download the Packages file from unofficial mirrors.

How do you want to solve this ?

I have a full Debian Mirror from BUZZ to SID
and installed more then 1200 Machines.

> It might be possible to improve the estimates by checking how much the
> downloads go up when the Packages file is updated.  But I leave that
> to statisticians.

How many Debian-Mirrors are there ?

It is impossibel to control that.  I think, it is only possibel
for ftp.*.debian.org mirrors but not the others.

> William Hay

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Re: Debian sponsoring Chinese companies?

2005-01-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-01-08 12:13:43, schrieb Santiago Vila:

> Actually, the BTS and the lists are handled very differently.
> The crap is usually removed from the BTS as soon as it's detected.
> I wish we did the same for the lists archives.

I am subscribed to more then 70 Mailinglists since 2000 and
gotten more then 140.000 Spams via Debian in this time...

Per day around 1.1 SPAM and list

I think a real-clenup will be nice...

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Re: Hey!

2005-01-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-01-01 21:40:01, schrieb KEG:

> What URL? I click through the pages and get to.? How about an
> ISO? Just a thought!
> Also, I don't feel certain I understand what Image I should even be
> getting the URL for.

You find the Downloadlink on <http://www.debian.org/> directly
on the left side "Getting Debian => CD ISO Images".

To complicate for Windows $USER ?

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Re: Limiting number of post from a poster per day per list

2004-12-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-27 12:50:50, schrieb Andrew Suffield:
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 01:34:44PM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > Debian is essentially a direct democracy, so let us work as such 
> > when needed.
> 
> Yurgh, no it is not. Debian is essentially an eclectic anarchy. We do
> not practise the tyranny of the masses around here.

:-)

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Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-13 21:30:02, schrieb martin f krafft:

> http://www.google.de/search?as_q=debian%20linux
> 
> the first link is the "bring out the facts" lie-page by m$.

OK, but you have used the normal GOOGLE search and
not tried the Linux-Search-Page from GOOGLE.

This makes the difference...

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Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-13 21:22:31, schrieb Florian Weimer:

> I think it's disappointing.  If this development continues, the only
> ad-free space on the web will be Microsoft's web site, a few obscure
> government sites, and lots of orphaned web pages which haven't been
> updated for years.  (For most users, web ads are much more annoying
> than for us who can apply all kinds of filters to get a relatively
> ad-free (and popup-free!) browsing experience.)

Please make a difference between "graphical" Adds which are trying
to jump into your eyes and this one from Google which are only Text. 

I consider this Google-Adds as very discret and not offensive.

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Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-13 21:09:07, schrieb martin f krafft:

> what am I doing wrong? If I search for Debian Linux, I get no ads
> whatsoever.

...because you use "mozilla" with the "adblock" extension :-)

I have deactivated the blocking of this adds
because I get realy good stuff...

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Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-13 21:01:09, schrieb Florian Weimer:

> If I search for "Debian Linux" on Google, a Microsoft ad is displayed
> next to the results.  Maybe this is useful, but I don't think we want
> that on Debian's web pages.

I never have gotten M$-Adds.

Normaly if you use <http://www.google.com/linux> you will get only
Linux-Related stuff plus Hardware-Sellers and Hosting-Providers...


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Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good evening Martin and *,

If I go to <http://www.google.com/linux> there was many times I have
found one of the adds after my search results are very useful and it
was a 100% hit !

I have found Distributors of Specialhardware supported by linux an
many things else. I use Google-Adds which search function on some of
my Web-Pages and I have already tried it myself. 

I do not know "HOW" Google do this, but it works perfectly.

Greetings
Michelle


Am 2004-12-13 17:27:15, schrieb Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader:
> * Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-13 
> 17:08]:
> > Normally, I reply to advertising requests on debian.org with a polite
> > "no".  However, given that google ads are widely considered different
> > to normal ads, and might even enhance a web site, I thought I'd ask on
> > -project to see what other people think.
> 
> Michael Banck pointed out on IRC that I should explain what google ads
> actually are.  The basic idea behind google ads is that you don't
> simply show random ads, but ads which fit in very well with the
> contents of the page - therefore, the likehood that the ad is of
> relevance to the view ofer the page is quite high.
> 
> More information can be found at https://www.google.com/adsense/
> 
> Let me quote one paragraph which summarizes it fairly well:
> 
>  | When your content changes, so do your ads.
> 
>  | Google AdSense technology goes beyond simple keyword or category
>  | matching. We work hard to understand your content and deliver ads that
>  | are precisely targeted to specific pages, automatically, no matter how
>  | many thousands of pages your site may have, or how specialised or
>  | broad your content. As your content changes, Google's ads change to
>  | match.
> 
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Re: http://www.debian.org/consultants/ policy

2004-11-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-11-01 21:28:26, schrieb martin f krafft:
> also sprach Noèl Köthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.01.2120 +0100]:
> > > I don't operate a website and do not plan on doing so. Please do
> > 
> > Why?
> 
> Why should I? I work locally and my clients refer each other to me.
> That has worked for me for years.

You are not alone...
I had my first client in end of 1999 in Strasbourg and the I have gotten
more then 100 between Colmar (FR), Mulhouse (FR), Strasbourg (FR) ,
Offenburg (DE), Lahr  (DE)and Freiburg (DE). never had to pay for 
publicity  :-)

But now I run my Website on a ADSL 1024/128kBit Enough for it.

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Re: Common Criteria Certification

2004-11-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-29 10:45:26, schrieb Joe Covert:
> We are considering using Debian as our OS of choice.
> 
> Is Debian "Common Criteria Certified" and if not are there plans to get 
> certification.

I am working for the french governement and I tell you, Debian as
distribution can not be under CC-EAL1. 

We, in France have Certified around 270 Packages to EAL4 but the
problem is that the Upstream-Authors must follow strict guidlines
to keep this Status.

Exactly, it is impossibel with Debian to get more then EAL2. 

I think Debian itself not, but a enterprise or suborganization of
Debian CAN do this with selected packages for Intranet or Workstations.

> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7692
> 
> Thanks ahead,
> 
> Joe Covert
> 
> Information System Security Manager
> Fleet Numerical METOC Detachment
> Asheville, NC 28801
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (828) 271-4232


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Re: Hyrican Informationssysteme AG

2004-11-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-27 12:15:32, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Sehr geehrtes Debian-Team,

:-)

> wir benötigen bitte Info, wie wir Ihr Produkt "Debian Distribution
> Linux" in einer öffentlich Ausschreibung anbieten können. Gibt es

"öffentliche Ausschreibung" ?
Dann müßen sie Doch wissen as sie tun...

> in Deutschland eine Art "Vertriebspartner"? Wenn ja, können Sie uns
> bitte einen Konatkt herstellen?

Bieten Sie Linux-Services an oder suchen sie Firmen,
die Linux-Services (auf Basis von Debian) anbieten ?

Also firmen die Linux-Services anbeiten finden sie auf
debian-consultants und auf der Webseite. 

Ich persönlich bediene nur Strasbourg und Baden-
Würtembergische Umgebung.

> Vielen Dank!
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Heiko Nahm


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Re: just wondering

2004-06-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Shannon, 

Here you are not on the right list...

Am 2004-06-11 03:19:45, schrieb shannon simms:
>
>hi i have been trying to get another os for months now.. I would like to use
>somehing besides windows...I have neve seen any other though. what is linux
>like. I have tryed to install every one that is out there for free and have
>failed.. don't know enough about it i guess. i did buy a red hat and it would

This is a Mailinglist for the Debian Distribution and not RedHat

However, you can go to the Website <http://www.debian.org/> and 
download the first CD-Image from release 3.0 called WOODY. 

I asume, you are using newer Hardware so if you boot with the CD, 
type at the prompt "bf24" to get the newer Kernel installed.

Paralel you will find on teh Website of Debian the Installation 
guide which is higly recommendes before you install Debian GNU/Linux
onto your Computer.

>not install either ...is there a place to get a system that will install  it
>self .. and does it work the same as windows I mean will it operate all of my
>hardware like scanners cameras stuff that we use all the time..word
>processers.. thanks for your time s simms

In general 95% of the Hardware will work with Linux, for the last 
5% you must ask the manufactur to provide Linux-Drivers ore the 
Specification for it. 

if you have more questions, please subscribe to a "USER" mailinglist
like:

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here you will find many friendly people which can help you to get 
Linux running on your Computer.

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Re: How do I use dpkg without superuser privileges?

2003-11-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2003-11-17 11:02:27, schrieb Debs Spammagnet:
>I've been trying to de-deb a .deb file without root
>permission. I just want to unwrap the file like a tar
>file. I DO NOT WANT TO INSTALL IT. I just want to
>UNPACK it like i might a TAR file.
>
>Unfortunately, dpkg --unpack complains about root
>access just as --install does. BOO!
>
>I just want the thing unrolled, that's it.
>
>How do I do this? Help page turns up nothing.

Open mc (MidnightCommander), select the file and Hit . 
And you are "in". 

>Thanks!
>
>-mark
>
>PS Spammers...just because I post a question to a
>mailing list doesn't mean that I want my p*e*n*i*s
>enlarged. But if you want to bomb me with such offers,
>knock yourself out...hopefully I'll be able to read
>the actual responses between the offers :)

Now Spammer read this...

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Re: bootable-cd

2003-11-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2003-11-07 14:19:32, schrieb daniel:
>hello,
>
>I've downloaded the fist 6 debian-iso-cds, but I
>can't boot form one of the cd's.

??? - All CD's ae bootable !!!

>where can I get a bootable fist debian-cd?
>(I use a notebook without a floppy-disk).

I think, 

1.  your Mainboard is realy old and can not boot from CD's
or
2.  You have forgotten to allow your Mainboard to boot from CD

>greetings,
>daniel

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