Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-19 Thread Ka Hay

Dear Josselin Mouette,

You warmed my Winter and made my day!
Thank you so much!
I spent another night fighting some strange bugs here and there and I 
will maybe just go for Debian with Gnome!



On 19/09/12 16:15, Josselin Mouette wrote:

Le dimanche 16 septembre 2012 Г  13:51 +0300, Ka Hay a Г©crit :

Unfortunately, with Ubuntu again, I was unable to start that famous
fallback mode. I followed every step of every instruction that I found,
re-installing the linux in the mean time and no luck, Sir, it just did
not like me.  I am not so stupid for a girl but I had no luck at all.

Debian is not Ubuntu. In Debian the “GNOME Classic” mode is available
right from the login manager, and it is here in the default install.




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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 16 septembre 2012 à 13:51 +0300, Ka Hay a écrit : 
> Unfortunately, with Ubuntu again, I was unable to start that famous 
> fallback mode. I followed every step of every instruction that I found, 
> re-installing the linux in the mean time and no luck, Sir, it just did 
> not like me.  I am not so stupid for a girl but I had no luck at all.

Debian is not Ubuntu. In Debian the “GNOME Classic” mode is available
right from the login manager, and it is here in the default install.

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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Agamemnon Skepetaris

On 09/16/2012 07:38 PM, Agamemnon Skepetaris wrote:
gnome2 like environment the best is the MATE ... is a fork from gnome2 
and works perfectly ... check this 
http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download


Regards
Memos
 

How did i do this? Huh ...


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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Agamemnon Skepetaris

On 09/16/2012 02:01 PM, Ka Hay wrote:
Unfortunately, with Ubuntu again, I was unable to start that famous 
fallback mode. I followed every step of every instruction that I 
found, re-installing the Linux in the mean time and no luck, Sir, it 
just did not like me.  I am not so stupid for a girl but I had no luck 
at all. 
Try to completly uninstall the 'gnome-shell' package only (did the trick 
for me but still uses too much memory).


A very good alternative and very light solution is to install 'lightdm' 
with 'xfce4' but if you still want a gnome2 like environment the best is 
the MATE ... is a fork from gnome2 and works perfectly ... check this 
http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download


Regards
Memos



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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Ka Hay

On 09/16/2012 02:03 PM, Arno Töll wrote:

Hi,

On 16.09.2012 12:51, Ka Hay wrote:

You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/

Is it so bad ? I mean it is updated from the official repositories and
security updates are there and so on.. So I can live with not updating
it . . .  and who makes a dist-upgrade on a laptop all the time?

Security support is time limited. Roughly one year after Wheezy's
release (security) support for Squeeze will terminate. From then on, no
updates will be provided anymore. Ever.



yes. Thank you


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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 16.09.2012 12:51, Ka Hay wrote:
>>> You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:
>>>
>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/
> Is it so bad ? I mean it is updated from the official repositories and
> security updates are there and so on.. So I can live with not updating
> it . . .  and who makes a dist-upgrade on a laptop all the time?

Security support is time limited. Roughly one year after Wheezy's
release (security) support for Squeeze will terminate. From then on, no
updates will be provided anymore. Ever.


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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Ka Hay

Hello,

Thank you for your answer,
Please find my questions/comments inline:

On 09/16/2012 01:07 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:

[ CC'ing Kay Hay, as I'm not sure he is subscribed ]


No I WAS not subscribed then, I subscribed just now. Thank you!!!

On 16/09/2012 04:55, Paul Wise wrote:

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Ka Hay wrote:


Can I have Debian with the good old Gnome 2?


You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/
Is it so bad ? I mean it is updated from the official repositories and 
security updates are there and so on.. So I can live with not updating 
it . . .  and who makes a dist-upgrade on a laptop all the time?


If you want a GNOME 2 like experience, you will have to either switch
to Xfce or another desktop or get involved with the MATE or Cinammon
desktop projects and help package those for Debian.



I tried MATE and it is not my cup of tea. I had lots of problems with it 
on a ubuntu,.

From what I read the Cinnamon thing  is unfinished and is not Gnome 2.?

or maybe he should test Gnome Classic (the fallback mode)?


( i am female)
Unfortunately, with Ubuntu again, I was unable to start that famous 
fallback mode. I followed every step of every instruction that I found, 
re-installing the Linux in the mean time and no luck, Sir, it just did 
not like me.  I am not so stupid for a girl but I had no luck at all.



Thank you for your help!

Ka.


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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Ka Hay

Thank you for your answer,
Please find my questions/cmments inline:

On 09/16/2012 01:07 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:

[ CC'ing Kay Hay, as I'm not sure he is subscribed ]


No I WAS not subscribed then, I subscribed just now. Thank you!!!

On 16/09/2012 04:55, Paul Wise wrote:

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Ka Hay wrote:


Can I have Debian with the good old Gnome 2?


You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/
Is it so bad ? I mean it is updated from the official repositories and 
security updates are there and so on.. So I can live with not updating 
it . . .  and who makes a dist-upgrade on a laptop all the time?


If you want a GNOME 2 like experience, you will have to either switch
to Xfce or another desktop or get involved with the MATE or Cinammon
desktop projects and help package those for Debian.



I tried MATE and it is not my cup of tea. I had lots of problems with it 
on a ubuntu,.

From what I read the Cinammon thing  is unfinished and is not Gnome 2.?

or maybe he should test Gnome Classic (the fallback mode)?


( i am female)
Unfortunately, with Ubuntu again, I was unable to start that famous 
fallback mode. I followed every step of every instruction that I found, 
re-installing the linux in the mean time and no luck, Sir, it just did 
not like me.  I am not so stupid for a girl but I had no luck at all.



Thank you for your help!


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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-16 Thread Mehdi Dogguy

[ CC'ing Kay Hay, as I'm not sure he is subscribed ]

On 16/09/2012 04:55, Paul Wise wrote:

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Ka Hay wrote:


Can I have Debian with the good old Gnome 2?


You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/

If you want a GNOME 2 like experience, you will have to either switch
to Xfce or another desktop or get involved with the MATE or Cinammon
desktop projects and help package those for Debian.



or maybe he should test Gnome Classic (the fallback mode)?

Regards,

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Re: Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Ka Hay wrote:

> Can I have Debian with the good old Gnome 2?

You will need to install squeeze and never upgrade from it:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/

If you want a GNOME 2 like experience, you will have to either switch
to Xfce or another desktop or get involved with the MATE or Cinammon
desktop projects and help package those for Debian.

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Debian with Gnome 2 ?

2012-09-15 Thread Ka Hay

Hail to you, all,

Imagine that I go back from Mint and SolusOS to pure old Debian, which 
is, accoding to me, the best option,


Can I have Debian with the good old Gnome 2?

Thank you!

Ka.


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