Re: Encouraging packaging questions on local debian-devel-* lists?

2013-08-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 08/08/13 at 12:19 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> TL;DR: Question: direct packaging questions to
> debian-devel-{austrian,french,italian,portuguese,spanish}@ ?

Quick follow-up on this:
I filed #719925 (packaging-tutorial) and #719926 (maint-guide) to
document that, since nobody disagreed. I'll provide patches if nobody is
faster than me (hint, hint).

Lucas


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Re: Encouraging packaging questions on local debian-devel-* lists?

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Gevers
[ I hope this mail has the appropriate in-reply-to set, sorry if it has
not. I started via the web link in the archive. ]

> Some made the very good point that english is the lingua franca in 
> Debian, and that you need to be able to interact in english if you 
> want to participate in Debian. However, asking possibly complex 
> packaging questions is more difficult than most interactions we 
> expect from package maintainers.
> 
> I think that a possible compromise would be to update the new 
> maintainer's guide and the debian packaging tutorial to mention 
> debian-devel-{austrian,french,italian,portuguese,spanish}@ as 
> possible lists where it's OK to ask questions about Debian 
> packaging.

I personally would not mind if the debian-user-dutch would be added as
well. There is not so much traffic in the "Dutch" world that would
warrant a separate list.

Please CC me on reply if you drop debian-user-dutch.

Paul



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Encouraging packaging questions on local debian-devel-* lists?

2013-08-08 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
TL;DR: Question: direct packaging questions to
debian-devel-{austrian,french,italian,portuguese,spanish}@ ?


Hi,

On 07/08/13 at 21:52 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> e) do localized versions of debian-mentors (French, German, Spanish, ...),
>where new contributors can ask questions about packaging
>[4] very useful  [8] quite useful  [14] quite useless  [6] totally useless

This was discussed a bit at DebCamp.
According to the comments provided with the answers, I feel that:
- many answered that it would have been 'useless for them' because
  they are native english speakers or sufficiently fluent in english.
- a few understood it as 'duplicate mentors.debian.net and/or
  debian-mentors@ into each language' and remarked (rightfully) that it
  would probably be a lot of work.

Some made the very good point that english is the lingua franca in
Debian, and that you need to be able to interact in english if you want
to participate in Debian.
However, asking possibly complex packaging questions is more difficult
than most interactions we expect from package maintainers.

I think that a possible compromise would be to update the new
maintainer's guide and the debian packaging tutorial to mention
debian-devel-{austrian,french,italian,portuguese,spanish}@ as possible
lists where it's OK to ask questions about Debian packaging.

I've looked at the archives of all those lists, and they are all
relatively quiet, so I don't think that the added traffic would be an
issue.

I will submit patches in a few days, unless there's consensus that it's
not a good idea to direct people there.

Lucas


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