Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On Tue, 06 Aug 2019, Zlatan Todorić wrote:
> Honestly, sadly I think it is mistake letting you back into Project 

What about reading debian-private and the discussion concerning other
groups involved in the hiccup you could see that obviously it has not been
settled completely.

That was all I said. If you read something else, fine with me.
Welcome to my killfile.

Norbert

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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-06 Thread Zlatan Todorić



On August 5, 2019 4:55:31 PM GMT+02:00, Norbert Preining 
 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> In one of these cases there was some >>overreaction and it has at least
>> partially (possibly even mostly) been dealt >>with.
>
>Very partially IMNSHO.
>
>Norbert
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You are really, really trying to be vocal about it lately and considering all, 
I would say it is yet again going to backfire on you (as it should in my 
opinion) and you will pretend again to be victim and act as you don't 
understand why.

I would say chill but your history shows just this passive aggressive behavior 
for years already and no sight of true remorse or accepting your acts and 
trying to improve.

Honestly, sadly I think it is mistake letting you back into Project and while I 
never liked your blog posts nor behavior I was of opinion that you should be 
let back but now you have firmly changed my position on that.

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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-06 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi



On 5 Aug 2019 20:17, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:

On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:

Did anyone actually bother to click on the link?
How much of debian-private (from when to when) was leaked?
If no one even bothered to look, well, that's fine too.

Several initial (?) emails from 1996 or so.


Right, and such mail should have been already declassified, if in past 
we had found volunteers to screen out personal details.


Still a leak, because it was not made on the official way.

ciao
cate



Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Did anyone actually bother to click on the link?
> How much of debian-private (from when to when) was leaked?
> If no one even bothered to look, well, that's fine too.
Several initial (?) emails from 1996 or so.

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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Sam Hartman
Did anyone actually bother to click on the link?
How much of debian-private (from when to when) was leaked?
If no one even bothered to look, well, that's fine too.



Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi,

> In one of these cases there was some overreaction and it has at least
> partially (possibly even mostly) been dealt with.

Very partially IMNSHO.

Norbert

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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/08/05 14:52, Debi Leaks wrote:
> You and your band of thugs try to humiliate and blackmail two long standing 
> volunteers to make forced confessions at christmas and now you complain that 
> you are the victim?

If you're referring to the two cases that I think you're trying to refer
to then...

In one of these cases there was some overreaction and it has at least
partially (possibly even mostly) been dealt with.

In the other case, the person was kicked out of the project due to their
bad behaviour, and their appalling behaviour since then have proved
beyond a shaddow of a doubt to everyone in the project that they should
never be allowed back.

-Jonathan

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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Troll Feeder
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:52:20PM +, Debi Leaks wrote:
> On Monday, August 5, 2019 12:07 PM, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:50:27PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
> >
> > > And I think he worries more about Debian then the majority of us.
> > > That is something that does worry me.
> >
> > I this this is more obsession[1] than worry: when one worries about
> > someone or something, one doesn't go on stalking and harassing them.
> >
> 
> You and your band of thugs try to humiliate and blackmail two long
> standing volunteers to make forced confessions at christmas and now
> you complain that you are the victim?
> 
> get real

Yes please.
Just show us the way.
Lead by example  ...



Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Debi Leaks


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, August 5, 2019 12:07 PM, Enrico Zini  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:50:27PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
>
> > And I think he worries more about Debian then the majority of us.
> > That is something that does worry me.
>
> I this this is more obsession[1] than worry: when one worries about
> someone or something, one doesn't go on stalking and harassing them.
>

You and your band of thugs try to humiliate and blackmail two long standing 
volunteers to make forced confessions at christmas and now you complain that 
you are the victim?

get real



Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:50:27PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:

> And I think he worries more about Debian then the majority of us.
> That is something that does worry me.

I this this is more obsession[1] than worry: when one worries about
someone or something, one doesn't go on stalking and harassing them.


Enrico

[1] 
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-being-obsessed-with-someone-and-being-in-love-with-them
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Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)


> On Aug 5, 2019, at 18:50, Geert Stappers  wrote:
> 
> Advice how to cope with it, is welcome.

I don't know if fading out debian-private could be one way to go.

I have this idea in mind for the following reasons:

1. To eliminate the "this should be in public list" confusion.
2. To prevent unwanted person monitoring and disclosing the "private" 
discussion.  This is especially true when people available to subscribe to 
debian-private is expanding.
3. Private discussions should be really private between small team of targeted 
people anyways.

Yao Wei


Re: debian-private leaked on pastebin, worried

2019-08-05 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:31:44PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/08/05 12:25, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> >> https://pastebin.com/S0meBait
> > 
> > It's basically just you throwing rocks at us, Daniel.
> 
> He probably has more protonmail accounts by now than anyone else in Debian.

And I think he worries more about Debian then the majority of us.
That is something that does worry me.

Advice how to cope with it, is welcome.


Regards
Geert Stappers
DD


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