Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 01:49:32PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Simoes wrote: > > > > Do you have a pnp bios? > > Yes, I do > > Well, then, all you really need to do is compile the kernel with sound > support. It might be a little tough to figure out what parameters to > compile in (DMA channels, I/O regions, etc.) because generally one does > this by booting to Win95 and stealing the parameters from there. > > There's no need to use isapnptools, because your bios will handle setting > everything up ok. > Will Maybe this is true, maybe not. Sometimes the PnP Bios is sufficient, sometimes it only initializes a part of the adresses. In this case you have to use ISAPnPtools anyway. The best way to check is to try it. For the SB 16, there is a good chance that PnP Bios is enough, but for every soundcard that has more devices you have to use ISAPnPtools, otherwise you would be missing e.g. midi sound. Thank you, Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 12:57:05AM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what > > settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver? > > Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management > > on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes > > the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had > > been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards > > it may well change. > > Oops, sorry: > > I meant to imply that one doesn't need isapnptools to set up the card, if > one knows what the settings will be. As I pointed out in an earlier mail, > the simplest way to do this is to boot to windows or dos and steal the > settings from there. If you already know the settings, you don't need > isapnptools, you can just compile them into the kernel. Hmmm. My understanding was that 95 would set things up however it saw fit, rather than whatever the BIOS has given the card. This is possibly better because generally speaking 95 knows what hardware you have better than the BIOS (ie due to legacy ISA cards); although you can allocate IRQs for PNP devices in the BIOS. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 58% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what > settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver? > Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management > on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes > the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had > been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards > it may well change. Oops, sorry: I meant to imply that one doesn't need isapnptools to set up the card, if one knows what the settings will be. As I pointed out in an earlier mail, the simplest way to do this is to boot to windows or dos and steal the settings from there. If you already know the settings, you don't need isapnptools, you can just compile them into the kernel. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- | You say "Love is a temple. Love the higher law."| | You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl.| | And I can't be holding on to what you got | | When all you got is hurt. | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 01:49:32PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Simoes wrote: > > > Do you have a pnp bios? > > Yes, I do > > Well, then, all you really need to do is compile the kernel with sound > support. It might be a little tough to figure out what parameters to > compile in (DMA channels, I/O regions, etc.) because generally one does > this by booting to Win95 and stealing the parameters from there. > > There's no need to use isapnptools, because your bios will handle setting > everything up ok. That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver? Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards it may well change. I use isapnptools here and it works just fine. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 58% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Simoes wrote: > > Do you have a pnp bios? > Yes, I do Well, then, all you really need to do is compile the kernel with sound support. It might be a little tough to figure out what parameters to compile in (DMA channels, I/O regions, etc.) because generally one does this by booting to Win95 and stealing the parameters from there. There's no need to use isapnptools, because your bios will handle setting everything up ok. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- | You say "Love is a temple. Love the higher law."| | You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl.| | And I can't be holding on to what you got | | When all you got is hurt. | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Otavio de Moraes Simoes wrote: > > > How can I install a SB16 plug n' pray on Linux. Do I have to compile the > > Do you have a pnp bios? > Will > Yes, I do Bruno -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Otavio de Moraes Simoes wrote: > How can I install a SB16 plug n' pray on Linux. Do I have to compile the Do you have a pnp bios? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- | You say "Love is a temple. Love the higher law."| | You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl.| | And I can't be holding on to what you got | | When all you got is hurt. | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SB16 Pnp - help...
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Otavio de Moraes Simoes wrote: > Hi there; > How can I install a SB16 plug n' pray on Linux. Do I have to compile the > kernel? What about "isapnptools"? I tried to configure it but did not > work.. I don't want to use bootlin from DOS because I don't have a DOS > partition on my HD. > Thank you > Bruno Mmmmh. You have to recompile the kernel and install sound as a module. You have to configure isapnp. Make a # pnpdump and store it in /etc/isapnp.conf Read the Sound-HOWTO in /usr/doc Contact me if you have further problems. Marcus -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
