Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-05-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Brian Ryans  wrote:
> Quoting Juan R. de Silva on 2011-04-21 16:36:
>> I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze
>> installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp -
>> a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.
>>
>> Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go trough
>> this mess manually one step at a time?
>
> See find(1) and chown(1). If you prefer info documents, the {core,find}utils
> files will be of much use.

Be *very* careful doing this, as well. It's often easier to designate
a much higher uid/gid space, such as 1000-11000, as a temporary
holding space to change the uid's to one at a time, then switch the
files owned by that uid to the target account. This helps avoid
problems with temporary files created by both the old and new uid's,
and the possibility of accidentally overlapping uid's.

For example, my uid on the old machine is 500. My uid on the new uid
is 520. My friend on the new machine has uid 500. I now alter all
backup files, mail files, /var/spool/crontab files, and relevant /tmp/
files to be uid 500. But wait! I'm overlapping my friend! Chaos
ensues.


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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-05-27 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting Juan R. de Silva on 2011-04-21 16:36:
> I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze 
> installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp -
> a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.
> 
> Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go trough 
> this mess manually one step at a time?

See find(1) and chown(1). If you prefer info documents, the {core,find}utils
files will be of much use.

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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:36:55 + (UTC), Juan wrote in message 
:

> I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed 
> squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and
> directories from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files
> from /etc needed to be restored.
> 
> I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze 
> installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp -
> a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.
> 
> Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go
> trough this mess manually one step at a time?
> 
> I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am 
> quite reluctant to go this way.

..read output of 'chown --help '. ;o)

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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-22 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 04. 2011 23:36:55 je Juan R. de Silva napisal(a):

I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed
squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and directories
from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files from /etc  
needed

to be restored.

I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze
installation but UID and GID are different.


How different? In Debian, the user numbers start at 1000 and go  
upwards. The user 1000 will be the first user you created (usually gets  
created during the installation of the OS). Then, once your OS is up  
and running, you can create new users with the GUI tool or with issuing  
the command 'adduser' (you must have root privileges to do that). The  
new users will start at 1001, then go to 1002, 1003 and so on. So just  
by creating them in a convenient order, you may get the UIDs you want  
(assuming that Ubuntu uses the same numbering schema, i.e. starting  
from 1000 up).


If Ubuntu uses another schema (say, from  down), the 'adduser --uid  
100x' form should help. If you've just created your Debian users, then  
nothing will be lost by deleting them by issuing 'deluser  
--remove-all-files', and creating them from scratch with either of the  
methods above. Once you get your uids straight, you can start copying  
over the contents of the Ubuntu home dirs to Debian. Personally, I  
wouldn't copy them in bulk -- there's bound to be some useless cruft  
and old leftovers there. I'd copy them subdir by subdir, as needed. For  
example,after installing Wine, I'd copy over their respective .wine  
subdirs; and so on.



So, by simply using 'cp -
a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.

Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go  
trough

this mess manually one step at a time?

I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am
quite reluctant to go this way.

Thank you.


HTH

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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-21 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:54:38 -0400, George Standish wrote:

> On 21/04/11 06:16 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> 
>> ..Debian uses the same values as Ubuntu does. Good.
> 
> I'm sure you mean, Ubuntu uses the same as values as Debian does ;)

You were reading my thoughts. :-)



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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-21 Thread George Standish

On 21/04/11 06:16 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote:


..Debian uses the same values as Ubuntu does. Good.


I'm sure you mean, Ubuntu uses the same as values as Debian does ;)


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Re: uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-21 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:36:55 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

> I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed
> squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and directories
> from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files from /etc needed
> to be restored.
> 
> I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze
> installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp - a'
> (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.
> 
> Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go trough
> this mess manually one step at a time?
> 
> I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am
> quite reluctant to go this way.
> 
> Thank you.

Looks that I've confused in my memory Debian UID's and GID's with Fedora 
ones. Just a quick glance resolved the "problem" - Debian uses the same 
values as Ubuntu does. Good.

Sorry, for an invalid question. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

Thank you.



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uid & gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-21 Thread Juan R. de Silva
I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed 
squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and directories 
from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files from /etc needed 
to be restored.

I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze 
installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp -
a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.

Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go trough 
this mess manually one step at a time?

I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am 
quite reluctant to go this way.

Thank you.



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