¿why put an input with the hash?
It is a dump ass question. But why on django admin/auth/user put the input with hash of the password ?¿ this not make sense to me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-users/-/i6cR-LlvVNkJ. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Django open source cashflow management app
the app is back :) On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Derek wrote: > On Jul 25, 8:51 pm, zodman wrote: >> http://misgastos.zodman.com.mxits on spanish sorry. >> >> https://github.com/zodman/misgastos/ >> >> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM, mf wrote: >> > Does anyone knows about an open source cashflow management app like >> > this one[0], built with django?. >> >> > [0]http://pulseapp.com/ >> >> > Thanks for your help. >> > I get an error from that site: > > uWSGI Error > wsgi application not found > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Django open source cashflow management app
http://misgastos.zodman.com.mx its on spanish sorry. https://github.com/zodman/misgastos/ On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM, mf wrote: > Does anyone knows about an open source cashflow management app like > this one[0], built with django?. > > [0] http://pulseapp.com/ > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
how to integrate strace on mod_swgi
some know how can i integrate the http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Extracting_Python_Stack_Traces but using the WSIHandler of django .. for show output like debuggingtechnique ? -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Django based issue tracker
that use django-template* app .. can change it. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:30 AM, derek wrote: > The button on the first page of http://www.django-projector.org/ says > "Sing up for the demo project". Makes a refreshing change from the > usual getting started red-tape ;) > > On Dec 7, 6:59 am, zodman wrote: >> django-projector >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Toby Champion >> wrote: >> > I don't know of a Django-based issue tracker that's in active >> > development, but I'd suggest you first try using a web-based, hosted >> > tool. If your project is simple enough, something >> > likehttp://www.unfuddle.com/ >> > might meet your needs. Accounts are free for very small projects, and >> > include a SVN or Git repository. Otherwise Trac, which is of course >> > used for tracking issues in Dango itself athttp://code.djangoproject.com/, >> > so at least you know there's knowledge in the community. It's written >> > in Python, too, so if you enjoy working in Python even without Django, >> > you're onto a winner. >> >> > On Nov 10, 12:12 am, Joakim Hove wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> I am setting up a bug/issue tracker - the project is quite small and I >> >> do not have complex needs. As I enjoy working with Django I was >> >> looking for a Django based solution. Can someone reccomend a Django >> >> based issue tracker? >> >> >> In case I fail finding something based on Django I think I will use >> >> Trac which seems quite nice. >> >> >> Joakim >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Django users" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Andres Vargaswww.zodman.com.mx > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Django based issue tracker
django-projector On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Toby Champion wrote: > I don't know of a Django-based issue tracker that's in active > development, but I'd suggest you first try using a web-based, hosted > tool. If your project is simple enough, something like > http://www.unfuddle.com/ > might meet your needs. Accounts are free for very small projects, and > include a SVN or Git repository. Otherwise Trac, which is of course > used for tracking issues in Dango itself at http://code.djangoproject.com/, > so at least you know there's knowledge in the community. It's written > in Python, too, so if you enjoy working in Python even without Django, > you're onto a winner. > > On Nov 10, 12:12 am, Joakim Hove wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am setting up a bug/issue tracker - the project is quite small and I >> do not have complex needs. As I enjoy working with Django I was >> looking for a Django based solution. Can someone reccomend a Django >> based issue tracker? >> >> In case I fail finding something based on Django I think I will use >> Trac which seems quite nice. >> >> Joakim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Project management software
are you try django-projector ? http://www.django-projector.org/ On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM, tiemonster wrote: > Is that specifically for software development? For people looking for > time tracking, SCRUM, etc, that might be a good option. > > I was looking to specifically develop project management software that > business users can utilize to manage projects not necessarily related > to software development. I wanted to build something that is way > easier to use than Microsoft Project, and can be accessed over the > web. > > -Mark > > > > > On Dec 3, 11:28 pm, ydjango wrote: >> tryhttp://www.agilewrap.com >> >> written in Django. It is commercial tool but Free for open source and >> non profit. Also free for up to 5 users for commercial orgs. >> >> On Dec 3, 1:21 pm, tiemonster wrote:> I've done the >> initial checkin under LGPL license as agreed. Anyone >> > that is interested in contributing, let me know your Google Code login >> > and I'll give you commit access to the svn repo. Any further questions >> > or comments can probably be directed to me personally instead of on- >> > list. Thanks! >> >> >http://code.google.com/p/django-project-manager/ >> >> > -Mark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- Andres Vargas www.zodman.com.mx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Error message
its because you set DEBUG=False and on your templates dir not exist the file 500.html On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:34 PM, reactosguy wrote: > I get this message every time I go on http://localhost:8000/ with the > Django server running: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\core\servers > \basehttp.py", line 279, in run > self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\core\servers > \basehttp.py", line 651, in __call__ > return self.application(environ, start_response) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\core\handlers\wsgi.py", > line 241, in __call__ > response = self.get_response(request) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\core\handlers\base.py", > line 122, in get_response > return self.handle_uncaught_exception(request, resolver, > sys.exc_info()) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\core\handlers\base.py", > line 166, in handle_uncaught_exception > return callback(request, **param_dict) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\views\defaults.py", line > 23, in server_error > t = loader.get_template(template_name) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\template\loader.py", line > 81, in get_template > source, origin = find_template_source(template_name) > > File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\django\template\loader.py", line > 74, in find_template_source > raise TemplateDoesNotExist, name > > TemplateDoesNotExist: 500.html > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
problem with runserver
Im work fine, time ago and on one moment i have this error:
Exception happened during processing of request from ('127.0.0.1', 34110)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/SocketServer.py", line 222, in handle_request
self.process_request(request, client_address)
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/SocketServer.py", line 241, in process_request
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/SocketServer.py", line 254, in finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line
554, in __init__
BaseHTTPRequestHandler.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/SocketServer.py", line 521, in __init__
self.handle()
File
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line
595, in handle
if not self.parse_request(): # An error code has been sent, just exit
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/BaseHTTPServer.py", line 276, in parse_request
self.send_error(400, "Bad request syntax (%r)" % requestline)
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/BaseHTTPServer.py", line 340, in send_error
self.log_error("code %d, message %s", code, message)
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/BaseHTTPServer.py", line 411, in log_error
self.log_message(*args)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line
603, in log_message
if self.path.startswith(self.admin_media_prefix) or self.path ==
'/favicon.ico':
AttributeError: WSGIRequestHandler instance has no attribute 'path'
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Re: FckEditor vs TinyMCE
im use meteora http://meteora.astrata.com.mx and work excelente for my djangoadmin interface. http://meteora.astrata.com.mx/demo/editor Cull escribió: > Thanks Jay, > > That's a huge help. Do you know if there's any code for doing text > versioning? We don't need a full blow wiki or CMS, but we do want to > add some versioning for our "notes." Any leads on this? > > > > On Feb 1, 1:38 pm, Jay Klehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It's certainly possible to implement FCK as a JS based editor, no python >> code necessary. It'll simply act as a textarea replacement to the user, >> but will still post the source of the editor when the form is submitted. >> >> Here's the integration guide for doing it this way: >> >> http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide/Integration/... >> >> If you want to do it in your django code, here's the Python integration >> guide: >> >> http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide/Integration/... >> >> Jay >> >> Cull wrote: >> >>> We're just starting to consider text editing. >>> What is our easiest path here? TinyMce or FckEditor. The latter has >>> been our choice previously, but is there a post somewhere that >>> discusses who to do it? I haven't been about to find more than bits >>> and pieces. If not, what about Tiny? >>> >>> Tips appreciated. >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
posible bug
I have configure the flatpages with his html template on my template_dir/flatpages/default.html When run python manage.py runserver on my settings DEBUG=True the flatpage show right but change a DEBUG=False i get this output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line 277, in run self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line 631, in __call__ return self.application(environ, start_response) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/handlers/wsgi.py", line 205, in __call__ response = self.get_response(request) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 108, in get_response return callback(request, **param_dict) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/views/defaults.py", line 79, in page_not_found t = loader.get_template(template_name) # You need to create a 404.html template. File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 79, in get_template source, origin = find_template_source(template_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 72, in find_template_source raise TemplateDoesNotExist, name TemplateDoesNotExist: 404.html The template not exist???' its a bug ??? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
problem with the auth_message table
when a sumbit something on the admin interface of django haves this warning: http://dpaste.com/30234/ http://dpaste.com/30235/ ever as the same a column 'message' on auth_message table. im drop the database an gen again with syncdb ii python-mysqldb 1.2.1-p2-4 A Python interface to MySQL mysqld Ver 5.0.32-Debian_7etch4-log for pc-linux-gnu on i486 (Debian etch distribution) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: urlField Broken ever
im run a develop server ( python manage.py runserver ) on my deploy
server and the urlfield function good .. on mod_python with apache
not validate my url ?
im confused.
On Jan 6, 10:28 pm, zodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 0.97-pre-SVN-unknown rev 7003
>
> i have a proble with de urlfield broken link
>
> im make a model as app1 this model haves a UrlField
>
> urlflyer = models.URLField("Direccion de la imagen",verify_exists=False)
>
> in my develop local server (python manage.py runserver) function fine
>
> But on my production server (with mod_python) im introduce a urlField like
>
> http://s08.divshare.com/thumbs/2007/09/14/1973974/1973974-548_display...http://google.com
>
> and not pass de validation about Url link Broken.
>
> my server haves some problem resolv the url ??
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Re: How do I connect to development server with my browser?
python manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:8000 give someone your ip on port 8000 :) Jeff Anderson escribió: > Keith wrote: >> Is there a way to >> connect with the development server remotely > Absolutely! > By default the development server --only-- runs on localhost. If you > want to make it accessible via another interface (like the internet) run > it like this: > > python manage.py runserver xxx.xxx.xx.x:8000 > > where the xxx.xxx.xx.x is the external ip address. > > Good luck! > > Jeff Anderson > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: CSS Issues
define as /srv/ your documentroot on apache virtualhost. change 755 permission to your /srv/abc/media dir put a symbolic link on /srv/media --> /srv/abc/media/ rember when the navegator search on django.abc.com/media/ search /media dir for /media/ location on your documentroot William Siegrist escribió: > bah, nevermind, I should try reading more carefully, as you're not using > the test server. :) > > Sorry. > > Might be a conflict with using /media/ for both admin and static files? > > -Bill > > > On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:12 PM, pacman wrote: > >> >> Hi, I have a strange issue with my css not loading. CSS and Images >> seem to work fine for the admin portion of the site but when I try to >> add my own CSS it can't seem to find it. >> >> my variables look as such: >> >> MEDIA_ROOT = '/srv/abc/media/' >> MEDIA_URL = 'http://www.abc.net/media/' >> ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX = 'http://www.abc.net/media/' >> >> I have a CSS link in a template file that looks like so but will not >> load: >> >> > href="Http://www.abc.net/media/ >> css/styling.css" /> >> I point my browser to the link and it seems to show the default admin >> stuff suchas the css, js, and image files but it doesn't show the >> stuff that I have tossed into that directory such as the styling.css. >> >> my apache config looks like this: >> >> >>ServerName django.abc.net >>ServerAlias django >>ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>SetHandler python-program >>PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython >>SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE abc.settings >>PythonPath "['/srv','/srv/django-0.96-current','/srv/abc'] + >> sys.path" >>PythonDebug On >> >> >>SetHandler None >> >> >> >> >> for some reason I have to use the www.abc.com/media/ to get to where >> my media content is stored rather than what I assume should be like >> this django.abc.com/media/ since I set the handler to none within the >> virtual host tag. Anyone know why I have to use the first url as >> apposed to using the second one? >> >> >> Does anyone know why my css is not loading correctly but the admin css >> works fine? >> >> > > > > > > William Siegrist > Software Support Engineer > Mac OS Forge > http://macosforge.org/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 408 862 7337 > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: CSS Issues
define as /srv/ your documentroot on apache virtualhost. change 755 permission to your /srv/abc/media dir put a symbolic link on /srv/media --> /srv/abc/media/ rember when the navegator search on django.abc.com/media/ search /media dir for /media/ location on your documentroot William Siegrist escribió: > bah, nevermind, I should try reading more carefully, as you're not using > the test server. :) > > Sorry. > > Might be a conflict with using /media/ for both admin and static files? > > -Bill > > > On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:12 PM, pacman wrote: > >> >> Hi, I have a strange issue with my css not loading. CSS and Images >> seem to work fine for the admin portion of the site but when I try to >> add my own CSS it can't seem to find it. >> >> my variables look as such: >> >> MEDIA_ROOT = '/srv/abc/media/' >> MEDIA_URL = 'http://www.abc.net/media/' >> ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX = 'http://www.abc.net/media/' >> >> I have a CSS link in a template file that looks like so but will not >> load: >> >> > href="Http://www.abc.net/media/ >> css/styling.css" /> >> I point my browser to the link and it seems to show the default admin >> stuff suchas the css, js, and image files but it doesn't show the >> stuff that I have tossed into that directory such as the styling.css. >> >> my apache config looks like this: >> >> >>ServerName django.abc.net >>ServerAlias django >>ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>SetHandler python-program >>PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython >>SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE abc.settings >>PythonPath "['/srv','/srv/django-0.96-current','/srv/abc'] + >> sys.path" >>PythonDebug On >> >> >>SetHandler None >> >> >> >> >> for some reason I have to use the www.abc.com/media/ to get to where >> my media content is stored rather than what I assume should be like >> this django.abc.com/media/ since I set the handler to none within the >> virtual host tag. Anyone know why I have to use the first url as >> apposed to using the second one? >> >> >> Does anyone know why my css is not loading correctly but the admin css >> works fine? >> >> > > > > > > William Siegrist > Software Support Engineer > Mac OS Forge > http://macosforge.org/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 408 862 7337 > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
urlField Broken ever
0.97-pre-SVN-unknown rev 7003
i have a proble with de urlfield broken link
im make a model as app1 this model haves a UrlField
urlflyer = models.URLField("Direccion de la imagen",verify_exists=False)
in my develop local server (python manage.py runserver) function fine
But on my production server (with mod_python) im introduce a urlField like
http://s08.divshare.com/thumbs/2007/09/14/1973974/1973974-548_display.jpg
http://google.com
and not pass de validation about Url link Broken.
my server haves some problem resolv the url ??
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Re: design for static/dynamic website
Im make a static site with flatpages and a custom templatetag to generate a menu for the list of flatpages :) its all!! MrJogo escribió: > I'd like to migrate a currently static website to Django to add some > dynamic features to it and I have some questions about how best to do > that. > > The public site has mainly informational pages that can be static, but > a few, like a members list, work better dynamic. The Django docs say > that Django leaves serving static pages to the web server, but that > seems to have some drawbacks. 1) the django pages don't have file > extensions and the static pages do. 2) The static pages can't use > Django's templating system. > > I started looking at flatpages for the static pages, but won't that > add the unecessary overhead of a db lookup? Thoughts or suggestions? > Thanks. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
