Re: How to view/run first app?
> > Russell Keith-Magee writes: > I will gladly try and give feedback about the docs.. just wanted to know > what is the best place to send the feedback to. This list or the > developers > list? there is a space for comments on the docs at the foot of each doc - that is the recommended place kg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
Joseph Heck writes: > I've had very good luck with the tickets when they're explicit - most got > added very quickly, and the ones that didn't had a quick note to let me > know why. Thanks for the pointer. I get to do most of my learning/hacking on weekends.. so look forward to going over the docs again.. and read them first before trying to follow along. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
I've had very good luck with the tickets when they're explicit - most got added very quickly, and the ones that didn't had a quick note to let me know why.-joeOn 3/21/06, Russell Keith-Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/22/06, Francisco Reyes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Russell Keith-Magee writes:I will gladly try and give feedback about the docs.. just wanted to knowwhat is the best place to send the feedback to. This list or the developerslist? The user list would be preferable to the developer list, but if you want to make sure your comments don't get lost and forgotten, I would open an enhancement ticket at code.djangoproject.com/newticket . Put your comments in with the ticket. Try to keep the tickets atomic - if you have lots of suggestionts, open a ticket for each specific enhancement you would like to see.Russ Magee %-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
On 3/22/06, Francisco Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Russell Keith-Magee writes:I will gladly try and give feedback about the docs.. just wanted to knowwhat is the best place to send the feedback to. This list or the developerslist? The user list would be preferable to the developer list, but if you want to make sure your comments don't get lost and forgotten, I would open an enhancement ticket at code.djangoproject.com/newticket . Put your comments in with the ticket. Try to keep the tickets atomic - if you have lots of suggestionts, open a ticket for each specific enhancement you would like to see.Russ Magee %-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
Russell Keith-Magee writes: Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do you have any specific suggestions? We're always keen to make > improvements, but it is difficult to improve if people say "it sucks" > without giving suggestions. That's why I asked if there was a particular place to send feedback. I will go over Malcolm Tredinnick's email in detail and then perhaps read the whole lot of docs. Was trying to "go along", but it seems perhaps the documents are best to be read.. then try to do the work. I will gladly try and give feedback about the docs.. just wanted to know what is the best place to send the feedback to. This list or the developers list? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 19:28 -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> Following the tutorial I completed up to "python manage.py install polls".
> The tutorial doesn't explain how to actually see what one has done so far
> and moves to playing with the API.
>
> How do I view the poll?
At the point that you have just run 'manage.py install polls', there is
nothing to view yet. This is explained in the tutorial immediately after
the command itself:
"Behind the scenes, all that command does is take the output of
``python manage.py sqlall polls`` and execute it in the database
pointed-to by your Django settings file."
but it may not be clear that that there should be no expectation of a
website existing at this point. You have created the model and database
tables, only.
The next section in the tutorial then explains how to use what you have
so far from the Python prompt. Part 2 of the tutorial explains how to
set up the admin application (which is an optional component in Django,
and has to be enabled) so that you can use a web interface to add poll
items, etc.
Read ahead a little bit from where you are now if you want to get a
feeling for the bigger picture. It is exceedingly difficult to write
tutorials or user manuals so that they work both as something that can
be followed immediately at the computer without looking ahead a
paragraph or two *and* so that audiences of a wide variety of experience
levels are accommodated.
> Any better tutorials anyone would recommend? I find the installation and
> tutorials in the django site leave much to be desired. :-(
Although the documentation is continually being worked on (and somewhat
secondary to some of the current development work at the moment, since
otherwise we would be documenting a highly moving target), the tutorials
are usually found to be quite useful.
That being said, if you find some things are unclear that might be
improved with concrete suggestions ("leaves much to be desired" does not
give us any pointers about what could be clarified or where you are
having difficulties). And patches are accepted. If you think it might be
useful to have a "here is where we are going", write up a few paragraphs
that could be added in and make a ticket (via the django website) so
that your patch can be incorporated. Somebody coming to Django for the
first time is in a better position to write this stuff than people who
have been using the framework for months, since the latter group are too
familiar with it to remember where the early learning curve is a bit too
steep (and because things have changed a bit since the very early
adopters started)
Regards,
Malcolm
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Re: How to view/run first app?
On 3/22/06, Francisco Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Following the tutorial I completed up to "python manage.py install polls". > The tutorial doesn't explain how to actually see what one has done so far > and moves to playing with the API. > > How do I view the poll? Its later in the tutorial. Part 2 looks at your model using the admin view, Part 3 and 4 looks at making your own views. > Any better tutorials anyone would recommend? I find the installation and > tutorials in the django site leave much to be desired. :-( Do you have any specific suggestions? We're always keen to make improvements, but it is difficult to improve if people say "it sucks" without giving suggestions. Russ Magee %-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to view/run first app?
I'd suggest moving on through the tutorial, and, as the end of Tutorial 2 states, "When you're comfortable with the admin site, read part 3 of this tutorial to start working on public poll views." That's where you can start seeing the poll app's public view. "Playing with the API" actually = "learning how to use Django." On 3/21/06, Francisco Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Following the tutorial I completed up to "python manage.py install polls". > The tutorial doesn't explain how to actually see what one has done so far > and moves to playing with the API. > > How do I view the poll? > > Any better tutorials anyone would recommend? I find the installation and > tutorials in the django site leave much to be desired. :-( > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How to view/run first app?
Following the tutorial I completed up to "python manage.py install polls". The tutorial doesn't explain how to actually see what one has done so far and moves to playing with the API. How do I view the poll? Any better tutorials anyone would recommend? I find the installation and tutorials in the django site leave much to be desired. :-( --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
