Re: Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> janI wrote:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ ...
>>
>> So my first question is
>> - what does a MAC page have to do here. MAC is a supported platform, not
>> third party ?
>> - why does the porting page not have a link to the mac page ?
>
>
> The Mac version used to be a port (you can still find outdated information
> around, with the name "Aqua Port"), but it has been a fully supported
> version since 3.0.0 or around.
>
> So the porting page does not link to it since it's not a port. And the URL
> is... well, historical, but I wouldn't oppose to move it outside porting/ if
> we can setup redirects that won't break search engines.
>

Exactly.  The URL here is important since it has many 3rd party back
links and is the most prominent page in search indexes when searching
for info about OpenOffice on the Mac.

However, if we wanted we could put a new page somewhere else and do a
redirect.  But that is all icing on the cake.  The main issue is the
content of that page is rather poor.  If we fix the content then the
other tasks are easy.

Regards,

-Rob

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>   Andrea.
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Re: Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[janI]

On 8 October 2013 22:33, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> janI wrote:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ ...
>>
>> So my first question is
>> - what does a MAC page have to do here. MAC is a supported platform, not
>> third party ?
>> - why does the porting page not have a link to the mac page ?
>
>
> The Mac version used to be a port (you can still find outdated information
> around, with the name "Aqua Port"), but it has been a fully supported
> version since 3.0.0 or around.
>
> So the porting page does not link to it since it's not a port. And the URL
> is... well, historical, but I wouldn't oppose to move it outside porting/ if
> we can setup redirects that won't break search engines.

Always nice to learn some history. I agree with not moving it, but I
suggest to put a text like
"MAC is a fully supported platform, and can be downloaded from the
main download site "

so nobody (like me) starts to wonder.

rgds
jan I.

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>   Andrea.
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Re: Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[Andrea Pescetti]

janI wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ ...
So my first question is
- what does a MAC page have to do here. MAC is a supported platform, not
third party ?
- why does the porting page not have a link to the mac page ?


The Mac version used to be a port (you can still find outdated 
information around, with the name "Aqua Port"), but it has been a fully 
supported version since 3.0.0 or around.


So the porting page does not link to it since it's not a port. And the 
URL is... well, historical, but I wouldn't oppose to move it outside 
porting/ if we can setup redirects that won't break search engines.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[Tal Daniel]

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> [...]
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/
> This page has many problems:
>
> ...
>
> This is a good opportunity for a volunteer, new or old, to help
> improve a high profile web page.   I know nothing about the Mac, but I
> can help review and check in a new page.
>

[Tal:] Trying to fix problems on the Mac version, but if you won't find
anyone, send me a note.


>
>
> 1) Am I in the right place?  (This is the implicit first question
> whenever anyone has when following a link from Google search results.)
>  The incongruous stock image does not help here.  One user wrote in a
> while ago that this automatically made them think this was a spam
> site.
>

[Tal:] I entered openoffice.org from google, pressed download, and offered
this page, with the correct Mac version:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/


>
> 2) Does OpenOffice support the Mac?  If so, what versions?  Prerequisites?
>

[Tal:] I used 3.4, 4.01, on Mac 10.6.8. I think there's support since
10.4/5, but read a few posts suggesting to drop these old versions.

>
> 3) Where can download it?
>
> [Tal:] See 2.

4) Where can I go for more information?  Support?
>

[Tal:] Here's a nice page, linked from the downloads page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html


> ...
> -Rob
>

Re: Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[janI]

On 8 October 2013 21:38, Tal Daniel  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/
> > This page has many problems:
>

I am not a mac specialist, but I just read the
http://www.openoffice.org/porting
page, title is
"third part ports and distributions".

So my first question is
- what does a MAC page have to do here. MAC is a supported platform, not
third party ?
- why does the porting page not have a link to the mac page ?

This of course has less to do with the content of the page, but I dont like
signalling the mac is a third party port.

rgds
jan I.



> >
> > ...
> >
> > This is a good opportunity for a volunteer, new or old, to help
> > improve a high profile web page.   I know nothing about the Mac, but I
> > can help review and check in a new page.
> >
>
> [Tal:] Trying to fix problems on the Mac version, but if you won't find
> anyone, send me a note.
>
>
> >
> >
> > 1) Am I in the right place?  (This is the implicit first question
> > whenever anyone has when following a link from Google search results.)
> >  The incongruous stock image does not help here.  One user wrote in a
> > while ago that this automatically made them think this was a spam
> > site.
> >
>
> [Tal:] I entered openoffice.org from google, pressed download, and offered
> this page, with the correct Mac version:
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>
>
> >
> > 2) Does OpenOffice support the Mac?  If so, what versions?
>  Prerequisites?
> >
>
> [Tal:] I used 3.4, 4.01, on Mac 10.6.8. I think there's support since
> 10.4/5, but read a few posts suggesting to drop these old versions.
>
> >
> > 3) Where can download it?
> >
> > [Tal:] See 2.
>
> 4) Where can I go for more information?  Support?
> >
>
> [Tal:] Here's a nice page, linked from the downloads page:
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>
>
> > ...
> > -Rob
> >
>

Help Needed: Redo the /porting/mac page

[Rob Weir]

We currently have this page which is visited over 4000 times *per
day*.  It has high visibility since it is the top search result when
querying for "openoffice mac" and similar queries:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/

This page has many problems:

1) The stock image is dated and out of character with the rest of the website

2) The menu is not rendering properly and does not conform to the look
and feel of the website.

3) The content is our of date.

This is a good opportunity for a volunteer, new or old, to help
improve a high profile web page.   I know nothing about the Mac, but I
can help review and check in a new page.

In creating a new page, consider the context:  This page is mainly
visited by those looking for OpenOffice for the Mac.  So we don't need
to sell them on the idea of using OpenOffice.  They are already
looking for it.  We mainly need to answer their likely question:

1) Am I in the right place?  (This is the implicit first question
whenever anyone has when following a link from Google search results.)
 The incongruous stock image does not help here.  One user wrote in a
while ago that this automatically made them think this was a spam
site.

2) Does OpenOffice support the Mac?  If so, what versions?  Prerequisites?

3) Where can download it?

4) Where can I go for more information?  Support?

>From a technical perspective I'd recommend starting with a fresh HTML
page.  Nothing fancy, keep it simple and inherit the site styles and
template.  , , , ,  is all you need.

Regards,

-Rob

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