[Dx-packages] [Bug 1263786] Re: Nonsense behavior of scrollwheel over Launcher
The harm is not in having clickless app switching, it's in having an action triggered by a scroll-up that's not undone by a scroll-down; there's no obvious way to undo this and if you don't know that it's intentional it's a bit surprising when it happens. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1263786 Title: Nonsense behavior of scrollwheel over Launcher Status in Unity: Fix Committed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Steps to reproduce: - move the mouse cursor over the launcher - move it over the icon of an application that has one and only one window open that is not on front - move the scrollwheel of the mouse in any direction Expected behavior: NOTHING. Ovserved behavior: the window, corresponding to the icon over which the mouse cursor is, is brought to front; and this cannot be reversed easily. Trying it with an icon of an application that has two or more windows open reveals "why" this happens: - move the mouse cursor over the Launcher over an icon of an application that has two or more windows open - move the scrollwheel This will switch between windows of that application, so scrolling up or down will bring one or another window (of that same application) to front. This is already annoying, like many other abuses of the scrollwheel that unfortunately have become widespread (such as: moving the scrollwheel while keeping the cursor over a tab will switch among tabs in applications that use tabs). But even if we accept the annoying use-the-scrollwheel-for-everything-at-all-costs fashion, only two behaviors would make sense in this case: Option A: - similar to current behavior (switch between windows of an application) but ONLY IF there are more than one window of that application open AND one of those window is already focused. Or option B: - whenever the scrollwheel is on the launcher, scrolling would switch among ALL existing windows Both option A and B would be consistent with the widespread scrollwheel abuse, but would at least make sense, and an unintentional movement of the scrollwheel causing an undesired window switching could always be reverted by a countermovement of the scrollwheel in the opposite direction. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.04 Package: unity 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.8.0-34.49-generic 3.8.13.12 Uname: Linux 3.8.0-34-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.9.2-0ubuntu8.5 Architecture: amd64 CompizPlugins: No value set for `/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins' Date: Mon Dec 23 22:45:54 2013 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (73 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: unity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1263786/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 1243240] Re: It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated
A workaround is to use Empathy rather than Pidgin (which is now the default anyway) and to not autohide the thingy on the left with the icons in it. I then get an icon for each messaging app there, along with a number of unread emails. That does cost more screen than the top bar does, though, and since I can't have the top one hiding I'd much rather put stuff there than give away more screen space to different bars. Assuming, though, that the 'proper' way to do this is to have the bar at the top containing things that look like indicators but that are actually buttons for menus, and the bar on the left containing icons that are also indicators, I'm guessing this workaround from your perspective is less a bodge and more how i'm expected to be using this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to indicator-messages in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1243240 Title: It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated Status in “indicator-messages” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: The envelope in my top bar thingy is grey when I have no unread messages and blue when I have some unread messages. There's no apparent way to discern between unread email messages and unread jabber messages without clicking on it and looking at the drop-down. There is also no apparent way to split these up into more than one indicator. Even if we assume that this must also work on incredibly narrow monitors, there are surely enough monitors wide enough to accept more than one of these indicators that it would be worth having the option of doing so? This is true of at least 13.04 and 13.10. Attached is a screenshot, showing either unread emails, unread IMs or both. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: indicator-messages 13.10.1+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Oct 22 15:34:47 2013 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: indicator-messages UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1243240/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 1243240] Re: It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated
Thanks; I don't think separate indicators are necessarily the right solution, but having one icon for all sorts of messages is unworkable for me; I respond differently to IMs than I do emails. I'm also not advocating this be a default, but it might be nice to configure it to have one icon per member of the menu, for example. While noting that bug #906043 is similar, I don't think these share solutions - the bulk of the problem I have is that I need to open the menu to find out what the icon means, which I don't think should be necessary. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to indicator-messages in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1243240 Title: It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated Status in “indicator-messages” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: The envelope in my top bar thingy is grey when I have no unread messages and blue when I have some unread messages. There's no apparent way to discern between unread email messages and unread jabber messages without clicking on it and looking at the drop-down. There is also no apparent way to split these up into more than one indicator. Even if we assume that this must also work on incredibly narrow monitors, there are surely enough monitors wide enough to accept more than one of these indicators that it would be worth having the option of doing so? This is true of at least 13.04 and 13.10. Attached is a screenshot, showing either unread emails, unread IMs or both. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: indicator-messages 13.10.1+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Oct 22 15:34:47 2013 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: indicator-messages UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1243240/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 1243240] [NEW] It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated
Public bug reported: The envelope in my top bar thingy is grey when I have no unread messages and blue when I have some unread messages. There's no apparent way to discern between unread email messages and unread jabber messages without clicking on it and looking at the drop-down. There is also no apparent way to split these up into more than one indicator. Even if we assume that this must also work on incredibly narrow monitors, there are surely enough monitors wide enough to accept more than one of these indicators that it would be worth having the option of doing so? This is true of at least 13.04 and 13.10. Attached is a screenshot, showing either unread emails, unread IMs or both. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: indicator-messages 13.10.1+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Oct 22 15:34:47 2013 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: indicator-messages UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) ** Affects: indicator-messages (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug saucy ** Attachment added: "Are those emails or IMs?" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1243240/+attachment/3887452/+files/Screenshot%20from%202013-10-22%2015%3A28%3A59.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to indicator-messages in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1243240 Title: It is unclear what sort of unread message is being indicated Status in “indicator-messages” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: The envelope in my top bar thingy is grey when I have no unread messages and blue when I have some unread messages. There's no apparent way to discern between unread email messages and unread jabber messages without clicking on it and looking at the drop-down. There is also no apparent way to split these up into more than one indicator. Even if we assume that this must also work on incredibly narrow monitors, there are surely enough monitors wide enough to accept more than one of these indicators that it would be worth having the option of doing so? This is true of at least 13.04 and 13.10. Attached is a screenshot, showing either unread emails, unread IMs or both. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: indicator-messages 13.10.1+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Oct 22 15:34:47 2013 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: indicator-messages UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-10-21 (1 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1243240/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
