Re: [Elecraft] Scanning With a K3s

2021-10-12 Thread K9ZTV
Direct Frequency Entry obviates the need to even touch the main dial, much less 
crank it. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> ... cranking VFO B to 29.700 takes forever ...
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning With a K3s

2021-10-12 Thread Dave

A > B on the front panel will transfer from A to B.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 10/12/21 6:01 AM, Richard wrote:

The manual says:

"Set VFO A to the starting frequency, and VFO B to the ending frequency."

This becomes tedious if I want to scan the entire 10-meter SSB segment; 
cranking VFO B to 29.700 takes forever.

Is there a way I can use FREQ ENT to put 29.700 in VFO A, then transfer or copy 
that to VFO B, then put 28.300 in VFO A? Can I use FREQ ENT to do the latter?

Thanks.

Richard Kunc – W4KBX
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[Elecraft] Scanning With a K3s

2021-10-12 Thread Richard
The manual says:

"Set VFO A to the starting frequency, and VFO B to the ending frequency."

This becomes tedious if I want to scan the entire 10-meter SSB segment; 
cranking VFO B to 29.700 takes forever.

Is there a way I can use FREQ ENT to put 29.700 in VFO A, then transfer or copy 
that to VFO B, then put 28.300 in VFO A? Can I use FREQ ENT to do the latter?

Thanks.

Richard Kunc – W4KBX
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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning

2020-02-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
No. Scanning proceeds from the VFO A frequency to the VFO B frequency, and is 
actually implemented only on the main receiver. This applies to the 
K3/K3S/KX2/KX3.

The K4 will likely have additional scanning options, e.g. scanning separately 
on the two receivers.

Wayne
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> On Feb 28, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in deducing that scanning requires the sub receiver?
> 
> Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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[Elecraft] Scanning

2020-02-28 Thread Richard
Am I correct in deducing that scanning requires the sub receiver?

Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning with K3

2015-01-29 Thread Matt VK2RQ
If you narrow your filter it may stop closer to that "sweet spot"? Or maybe it 
won't stop at all; you'll have to experiment.

73, Matt VK2RQ

> On 30 Jan 2015, at 2:23 am, KD7YZ  wrote:
> 
> Did  a  search  on  elecraft;  found  article; downloaded their Memory
> Editor;  solved  problem  and  now  handily  scanning,  quietly,  and
> stations pop-up when scanner passes them.
> 
> Gee,  now  if  I  could  make  that point to stop on CW mode inside my
> 'sweet-spot' to my ears 
> 
> thanks all who wrote off-list.
> 
> thanks mainly to Elecraft for the memory-editor
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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning with K3

2015-01-29 Thread KD7YZ
Did  a  search  on  elecraft;  found  article; downloaded their Memory
Editor;  solved  problem  and  now  handily  scanning,  quietly,  and
stations pop-up when scanner passes them.

Gee,  now  if  I  could  make  that point to stop on CW mode inside my
'sweet-spot' to my ears 

thanks all who wrote off-list.

thanks mainly to Elecraft for the memory-editor
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[Elecraft] Scanning with K3

2015-01-28 Thread KD7YZ
Howdy K3' people:

I  was  sittin'  here,  doing something else, and wanted to scan 10.120
down to 10.101 for CQ'ing on CW .. and then I'd call them.

So  I set one freq in memory 99 and the other in mem 98; pressed A->B;
the other mem back into A, then 'Scan".

I got the scan but it stopped at the bottom and never restarted.

Should it scan continually or just one time?

thanks.




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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-06 Thread WD4SDC

>There's actually a variable in the source code called "scanWorthy" that
accrues intel about the signal :)

Info at the speed of NOW - and from the guy who wrote the code, no less. 
And I agree w/ NT6Y - it is impressive.  

>As the guy who wrote the firmware, I'm happy to find that someone else
finds it useful, *and* is curious about how it >works. Thanks.

I think my curiosity has exceeded threshold and I'll have to become a
customer.   I'm looking forward to being a happy user of your scanWorthy
variable;)  

I think you guys have put the "art" back in state-of-the-art.

Steve.


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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-06 Thread Bob
I have been a devoted reader of the Reflector and can say in one word my
thoughts on Wayne's explanation: IMPRESSIVE.  Makes me want to buy another
K rig.  The openness of explanation and willingness to hear the thoughts of
others like us (some profound and some not so) on the Reflector is
legendary.  Hope that this company stays around forever so my grandson can
have the chance to buy an Elecraft.

Bob, NT6Y

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> > "Scanning while muted (normal scanning mode)
> > allows the K3 to ignore stable carriers, unmuting
> > only when "interesting" signals are found."
>
> If the signal appears to be an unmodulated carrier, i.e. with little
> amplitude variation over a period of about 1 second, then it is skipped.
> Noise can fool the algorithm sometimes, of course.
>
> There's actually a variable in the source code called "scanWorthy" that
> accrues intel about the signal :)
>
>
> > ...from the K3 manual - which appears to be a close DSP cousin to the
> KX3,
> > and I've also found some scattered bits about the KX3 that refers to
> > stopping when a "modulated signal" is found.  So, what exactly triggers a
> > stop scan?
>
> It stops on any signal with a certain S+N/N ratio, then evaluates it as
> described above.
>
>
> > Is the scan signal detection
> > done after signal processing like noise blanking, noise reduction, notch,
> > etc?  That would make it REALLY good at scanning HF !
>
> Yes and yes. It's really useful for discovering signals on a "dead" band
> (they seldom are truly dead, you will discover).
>
>
> > After scan stops on a signal, does it pause until the signal stops, or
> does
> > it continue after some fixed time?
>
> The latter. If the signal is "interesting" it will unmute the receiver and
> pause a lot longer.
>
>
> > I see that in VFO scan you can make it
> > effectively slow or fast by changing the increment step - , but in
> channel
> > hop, the "increment" is one hop - just not clear on the hops per second.
>
> I believe it's two hops per second if you use "live scan" (continuous, and
> unmuted) and 5 hops per second with regular scanning/hopping (muted).
>
>
> > And finallyhow does the scanning stop/resume sequence work?
> > When a signal is detected, the scanning pauses for some interval, then
> > resumes when the signal stops? Or after a time interval if the signal is
> > still there it continues scanning until it hits the active channel again?
>
> All of the above. It's not using AI or anything -- just simple rules --
> and it will produce consistent results most of the time.
>
>
> > I've used (channel) scanning on HF quite a bit.  Very useful
> > now that VFOs are rock solid and tune in milliseconds.
>
> As the guy who wrote the firmware, I'm happy to find that someone else
> finds it useful, *and* is curious about how it works. Thanks.
>
> The K2 has the same scanning feature, by the way.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
> "Scanning while muted (normal scanning mode)
> allows the K3 to ignore stable carriers, unmuting
> only when "interesting" signals are found."

If the signal appears to be an unmodulated carrier, i.e. with little amplitude 
variation over a period of about 1 second, then it is skipped. Noise can fool 
the algorithm sometimes, of course.

There's actually a variable in the source code called "scanWorthy" that accrues 
intel about the signal :)


> ...from the K3 manual - which appears to be a close DSP cousin to the KX3,
> and I've also found some scattered bits about the KX3 that refers to
> stopping when a "modulated signal" is found.  So, what exactly triggers a
> stop scan?

It stops on any signal with a certain S+N/N ratio, then evaluates it as 
described above.


> Is the scan signal detection
> done after signal processing like noise blanking, noise reduction, notch,
> etc?  That would make it REALLY good at scanning HF !

Yes and yes. It's really useful for discovering signals on a "dead" band (they 
seldom are truly dead, you will discover). 


> After scan stops on a signal, does it pause until the signal stops, or does
> it continue after some fixed time?

The latter. If the signal is "interesting" it will unmute the receiver and 
pause a lot longer.


> I see that in VFO scan you can make it
> effectively slow or fast by changing the increment step - , but in channel
> hop, the "increment" is one hop - just not clear on the hops per second.

I believe it's two hops per second if you use "live scan" (continuous, and 
unmuted) and 5 hops per second with regular scanning/hopping (muted).


> And finallyhow does the scanning stop/resume sequence work?
> When a signal is detected, the scanning pauses for some interval, then
> resumes when the signal stops? Or after a time interval if the signal is
> still there it continues scanning until it hits the active channel again?

All of the above. It's not using AI or anything -- just simple rules -- and it 
will produce consistent results most of the time.


> I've used (channel) scanning on HF quite a bit.  Very useful
> now that VFOs are rock solid and tune in milliseconds. 

As the guy who wrote the firmware, I'm happy to find that someone else finds it 
useful, *and* is curious about how it works. Thanks.

The K2 has the same scanning feature, by the way.

Wayne
N6KR



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[Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-05 Thread WD4SDC
Hi All,

I've been gathering information on the scanning feature of the KX3 (not an
owner..yet - VERY tempting).
I have the basics - VFO scan, channel hopping, live scan, muted scan, the
rules for channel hopping.
I found this:

"Scanning while muted (normal scanning mode)
allows the K3 to ignore stable carriers, unmuting
only when "interesting" signals are found."

...from the K3 manual - which appears to be a close DSP cousin to the KX3,
and I've also found some scattered bits about the KX3 that refers to
stopping when a "modulated signal" is found.  So, what exactly triggers a
stop scan?  It seems to be a bit more sophisticated then just an S meter
threshold - maybe using the AFV measurement?.  Is the scan signal detection
done after signal processing like noise blanking, noise reduction, notch,
etc?  That would make it REALLY good at scanning HF !

After scan stops on a signal, does it pause until the signal stops, or does
it continue after some fixed time?

What is the scan (hopping) rate.  I see that in VFO scan you can make it
effectively slow or fast by changing the increment step - , but in channel
hop, the "increment" is one hop - just not clear on the hops per second.

And finallyhow does the scanning stop/resume sequence work?
When a signal is detected, the scanning pauses for some interval, then
resumes when the signal stops? Or after a time interval if the signal is
still there it continues scanning until it hits the active channel again?

I know these are very narrow questions about a radio that has a LOT of
capabilities, and maybe I'm the only guy that wants to know thisbut at
least if I ask it here, then the one other person that may be looking will
find it here;)  I've used (channel) scanning on HF quite a bit.  Very useful
now that VFOs are rock solid and tune in milliseconds. 

Thanks to all on the site for LOTS of other very useful
questions/answers/ideas.

Steve
WD4SDC



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[Elecraft] Scanning with the KX3

2013-08-30 Thread dixonsfamily
I think that a step is missing from the manual. To Scan one must first do
what the manual describes. Once you have held the SCAN button the display
shows your VFO A and VFO B settings, to start scanning you must hold the
SCAN button once more. From this point, the manual picks up again with the
choices AF ON or not. To resume scanning you hold SCAN again.

I love my KX3,
Denis WA5TYJ
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[Elecraft] Scanning / Channel Hopping

2011-12-26 Thread 4Z5TO
A few questions about scanning...

I would like to be able to scan and channel hop frequencies & segments that
span several bands. It seems this is not allowed by the K3 using just the
buttons, but is it possible to do this via programming a macro using /MC/?
If so what is the optimal way to do it?

Also, what effects the determination of what is defined as "interesting" to
the K3 when scanning muted and is it possible to adjust this determination.

Thanks in advance,
73
Douglas

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Re: [Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread Brett Howard
I find that using M1-M4 as band segment memories works quite well for
me...  I'll use M1 as a CW band segment, M2 as an SSB band segment, M3
as a data modes segment...  

Then I can quickly recall them and start scanning that segment.  They
also make for a quick way to get where I want to be...  Say I'm on 20
SSB and want to get to 40 CW...  

M>V, 4, M>V, M1 

4 button presses and I'm right where I want to be ready to go.

~Brett (N7MG)

On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:39 -0600, Duncan Carter wrote:
> There is a macro in the down loadable Programmer's Reference called 
> SCANNOW that can make scanning simpler to use, especially for for 
> fequencies that you use infrequently.  You can also use the M-V and V-M 
> to enter frequencies in the K3 memory for VFO A and VFO that you wish to 
> recall more frequently.
> 
> Dunc, W5DC
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread Duncan Carter
There is a macro in the down loadable Programmer's Reference called 
SCANNOW that can make scanning simpler to use, especially for for 
fequencies that you use infrequently.  You can also use the M-V and V-M 
to enter frequencies in the K3 memory for VFO A and VFO that you wish to 
recall more frequently.

Dunc, W5DC

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Re: [Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread Brett Howard
You need to fully recall the memory into the VFO before hitting scan...

~Brett (N7MG)


On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:36 -0400, Jack Colson wrote:
> I am unable to enable the scan function.  I have stored two frequencies 
> in memory locations 90 and 91.  According to the manual(version D4 page 
> 40) simply depress M>V, hold scan button for 2 seconds and you will see 
> AF ON.  Well holding SCAN does nothing and  do not see the AF msg nor 
> SCAN.
> 
> This must be simple but it eludes me.  I am running the latest F/W 
> version 4.03.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thank you,
> 73
> Jack, W3TMZ 
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Re: [Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread Bob Cunnings
As of firmware MCU 3.25 / DSP 2.21 six meter scanning has been
available. From the release notes:

* 6 METER SCANNING NO LONGER PROHIBITED. Scanning is limited
to the 6-m U.S. ham band (50-54). Exception: In some countries the K3 won’t
operate on 6 m at all.

Bob NW8L

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, WILLIS COOKE  wrote:
> Jack, you are not trying to scan on six meters are you?  Six meter scanning 
> is blocked to comply with a FCC reg to keep people from eaves dropping on 
> cell phone conversations.  The possibility of getting this changed has been 
> beat to death several times in the last couple of years so I hope we don't 
> start that again.
>  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Jack Colson 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 3:36:44 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] scanning
>
> I am unable to enable the scan function.  I have stored two frequencies
> in memory locations 90 and 91.  According to the manual(version D4 page
> 40) simply depress M>V, hold scan button for 2 seconds and you will see
> AF ON.  Well holding SCAN does nothing and  do not see the AF msg nor
> SCAN.
>
> This must be simple but it eludes me.  I am running the latest F/W
> version 4.03.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thank you,
> 73
> Jack, W3TMZ
>
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Re: [Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Jack, you are not trying to scan on six meters are you?  Six meter scanning is 
blocked to comply with a FCC reg to keep people from eaves dropping on cell 
phone conversations.  The possibility of getting this changed has been beat to 
death several times in the last couple of years so I hope we don't start that 
again.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Jack Colson 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 3:36:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] scanning

I am unable to enable the scan function.  I have stored two frequencies 
in memory locations 90 and 91.  According to the manual(version D4 page 
40) simply depress M>V, hold scan button for 2 seconds and you will see 
AF ON.  Well holding SCAN does nothing and  do not see the AF msg nor 
SCAN.

This must be simple but it eludes me.  I am running the latest F/W 
version 4.03.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,
73
Jack, W3TMZ 

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[Elecraft] scanning

2010-07-03 Thread Jack Colson
I am unable to enable the scan function.  I have stored two frequencies 
in memory locations 90 and 91.  According to the manual(version D4 page 
40) simply depress M>V, hold scan button for 2 seconds and you will see 
AF ON.  Well holding SCAN does nothing and  do not see the AF msg nor 
SCAN.

This must be simple but it eludes me.  I am running the latest F/W 
version 4.03.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,
73
Jack, W3TMZ 

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[Elecraft] Scanning

2009-06-29 Thread Ralph Parker
>My interpretation is that my K3 is part of the equipment at an
>FCC licensed station, and is exempt from the regulation.

My 756ProIII and my IC-706 scan perfectly well on 6m right out of the box.

VE7XF

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[Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?

2009-05-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
I am operating in EI where the 6M band can be dead but then open for short
periods.   The ability to scan would be most welcome and I know of no
regulation disallowing it in EI land.   This would be a most welcome
addition to the radio.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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Subject: [Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?


Really need scanning now when 6m is allowed in Sweden.
Anyone who knows when it will be possible?
In Sweden there is no problem with scanning above 30 MHz!

73 de Jan SM5FQQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?

2009-05-19 Thread wayne burdick
I'll send you the instructions, Jan.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

SM5FQQ wrote:

>
> Really need scanning now when 6m is allowed in Sweden.
> Anyone who knows when it will be possible?
> In Sweden there is no problem with scanning above 30 MHz!
>

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[Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?

2009-05-19 Thread SM5FQQ

Really need scanning now when 6m is allowed in Sweden.
Anyone who knows when it will be possible?
In Sweden there is no problem with scanning above 30 MHz!

73 de Jan SM5FQQ
K3 #2054 
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[Elecraft] scanning with the K2

2006-06-01 Thread n3drk
When scanning cw or ssb, when the scan encounters a signal is it up to the 
operator to tune in the ssb signal when the scan pauses? Can it be 
programmed to stop the scan exactly on a readable ssb signal?


73
john-n3drk 


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[Elecraft] SCANning

2006-01-21 Thread Nick Waterman
On the K2, is it possible to SCAN without filling a memory? It's neat
being able to hold RCL and hold 4 to scan 40m or whatever, but on
occasions when I've wanted to scan a different section of a band, it
seems a shame to fill a memory, especially when there's only 10 of them
  :-)

If we're still sending suggestions from the peanut gallery...

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RE: [Elecraft] Scanning without end, amen.

2005-04-25 Thread Lloyd Lachow

--- Sverre Holm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The latest firmware has two scan modes. The old one
> which scans silently and
> stops on each strong station, and the latest one
> which scans with the
> squelch open and does not stop on anything.
> 
> I believe the last mode is entered by pressing the
> scan command for a longer
> time. Maybe that's the mode you are using?


   AHA! The manual didn't spell it out enough for
rtfm-impaired me, but that's just what was going on.
D'oh!


  Thanks to all!


  LL/K3ESE

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RE: [Elecraft] Scanning without end, amen.

2005-04-25 Thread Sverre Holm
-Original Message-
   When I'm using my scan function on 40M, it just scans past stations that
are S8-9, and keeps going.
I've tried different filter settings, etc. What have I missed?
--


The latest firmware has two scan modes. The old one which scans silently and
stops on each strong station, and the latest one which scans with the
squelch open and does not stop on anything.

I believe the last mode is entered by pressing the scan command for a longer
time. Maybe that's the mode you are using?

73

Sverre
LA3ZA
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[Elecraft] Scanning without end, amen.

2005-04-25 Thread Lloyd Lachow
   When I'm using my scan function on 40M, it just
scans past stations that are S8-9, and keeps going.
I've tried different filter settings, etc. What have I
missed?

   LL/K3ESE

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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning

2004-06-10 Thread wayne burdick

Kevin,

You've discovered a bug in the firmware that I fixed in the most recent 
version (2.04P). This version has been shipping for several months. 
Full details can be found on our web page.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:15 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:



I was going to set my K2 up to scan again when I noticed the scan 
resume feature notes on page 97.  It states: "The frequency will jump 
up 0.5 kHz to avoid having scan re-lock on the same frequency."  How 
do I get mine to do this?  I've never had it jump 0.5 kHz


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[Elecraft] Scanning

2004-06-10 Thread Kevin Rock


I was going to set my K2 up to scan again when I noticed the scan resume 
feature notes on page 97.  It states: "The frequency will jump up 0.5 kHz 
to avoid having scan re-lock on the same frequency."  How do I get mine to 
do this?  I've never had it jump 0.5 kHz.  Is there something I am missing 
in the scan setup procedure?  It scans just fine and then when I hit PF2 
it starts at the very same frequency.  I normally restart the scan by 
turning the tuning knob if the thousands place decimal point is blinking.  
Otherwise I start the scan again and manually tune upward to avoid 
relocking.  How do I get it to work like in the manual?  That would be 
convenient.

   Kevin.  KD5ONS
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