Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Lester, Thank you for the suggestions. This is my first two column big job so far. I have not started feathering yet, but I found later today a suggestion lurking somewhere in my old posts (when ordered to delete out of my mail box) a suggestion that changing the widow/orphan to three lines. They are set to two lines. I cannot see that this behavior has any connection to keep with next/previous unless there are some headings etc. farther down the file that stopped the flowing. I did not check that. I will certainly bear that in mind now when I will be going over this again. As to rehyphenation, this happened when going through hyphenation by hand. Language being Icelandic, which is unsupported by Adobe, I had run the Dashes Pro Demo on the RTF files which were then imported to to FrameMaker 7.2. The Dashes Pro proved to be very inaccurate in hyphenation, the best thing was to do a find \- and either delete or keep and some times even add new. And to complicate things further, the eth and thorn and even an accented y (which are all parts of the extended ASCII) seem to FrameMaker just as some space character when it comes to hyphenating. Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar On 8/28/07, Lester C. Smalley wrote: > Bodvar - > > I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer > much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively, > although they do use side heads. > > As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with > element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and > widow/orphan settings. And because settings are inherited, it may be > specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a > problem. > > Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in > Format > Page Layout > Line Layout) of the text flow? > > Are your footnotes set to be "In Column" or "Across All Columns"? (I > don't know if this makes a difference or not) > > You can try to re-hyphenate the document. Odd as it seems, this often > clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem > solvable. > > Good luck! > > On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > > | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when > | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to > | this posting. > | > | Is this a problem that others have experienced? > | > | Bodvar > | > | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > | > | > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt > | > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a > | > nice weekend. :-) > | > > | > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of > | > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame > | > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the > bottom > | > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. > | > > | > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page > | > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but > | > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on > | > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down > | > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these > | > will be some 800). > | > > | > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are > | > two-column setup. > | > > | > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line > | > of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was > | > even harder to deal with. > | > > | > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard > | > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. > That > | > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines > | > overrunning the footnotes. > | > > | > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other > | > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. > | > > | > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you > | > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) > | > > | > TBF > | > > | > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson > > - Lester > --- > Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com > Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 > Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com > --- >
List of Cross-References with Destinations
aharvey wrote: > All: > > > > Is there any way to generate a list of cross reference markers that contains > the file names of where the cross-reference points to, instead of just the > verbage of the cross reference, etc. You can create a Special > List Of > References, and choose External Cross-Refs. The resulting document begins each line with the file name pointed to. Is that what you're after? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." ? from a foreign sales contract
FM to MS Word Convert
Martin Simon wrote: > Good Morning List Folks, > > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting > a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my > book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of > clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to > explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! > Tim Murray has a good tip sheet here: http://techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf (It deals with conversions in both directions, not just word2frame.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." ? from a foreign sales contract
FM to Word conversion
I second Rick's advice but would like to add a couple of hints about the RTF export that may be of use. First, have a *lot* of patience, particulalry if your document has many graphics. If there are a lot of graphics, the conversion runs so slowly that it is easy to think that Frame has hung or crashed. Don't believe it. Try starting the conversion just before you leave work so that you can let it run overnight. Second, in the days of FrameMaker 5.5.6 and 6.0, many users reported much better results with the Japanese RTF export filter rather than the regular RTF export filter. These reports basically dried up when FM7 was released, so the newer RTF1.6 filter may have resolved the issue. But you still might want to experiment with the three available RTF filters. Third, if this is more than a one-shot deal, you would be well advised to investigate Mif2Go, which does a really good job once you set it up. Plus it does high-quality conversion to HTML, WinHelp, HTML Help, Java Help, browser-based help, etc. >From: "Rick Quatro" >To: "Martin Simon" ,"framers" > >Subject: Re: FM to Word conversion >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:26:00 -0400 > >You can Save As RTF and see how that works, or use a third-party program >like Mif2Go (http://www.omsys.com). > >Rick Quatro >Carmen Publishing >585-659-8267 >www.frameexpert.com > > >Good Morning Framers List, > >Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting >a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my >book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of >clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to >explore the why, simply the how. >Thanks a lot! > >Martin > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Messenger Caf? ? open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_AugHMtagline
FM to MS Word Convert
I would have saved the Frame files as .RTF and opened those in Word, probably using a template that I'd already set up with styles that matched the FM tag names Art On 8/28/07, Martin Simon wrote: > Good Morning List Folks, > > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting > a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my > book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of > clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to > explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! > > Martin > ___ > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
FM to Word conversion
You can Save As RTF and see how that works, or use a third-party program like Mif2Go (http://www.omsys.com). Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Good Morning Framers List, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin
FM to Word conversion
Martin Simon wrote: > I did not see all of those options since I was trying to > convert the book file. My choices were limited to fm, > mif,pdf,htm, and xml. Ah, so that's why you went the HTML route. :-) Remember, in FM, all the content is in the .fm files. The .book file just contains pointers to .fm files and information about how to combine them (numbering, PDF setup, etc.). > Now, I can see the many save as options available for the > individual chapters. So, in that case I would convert then > paste the chapters together, later? Yes. Keep in mind what Art and I said about the Word template. And keep in mind that many people have trouble with very large Word docs (the ones that don't have bulletproof templates and rigorous procedures). > As for the FAQs, I went to the frameusers, adobe, and the web. OK, you're using "FAQ" in a generic sense. Googling "FrameMaker FAQ" returns no hits. In any case, good luck with this project! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Re: List of Cross-References with Destinations
aharvey wrote: All: Is there any way to generate a list of cross reference markers that contains the file names of where the cross-reference points to, instead of just the verbage of the cross reference, etc. You can create a Special > List Of > References, and choose External Cross-Refs. The resulting document begins each line with the file name pointed to. Is that what you're after? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." — from a foreign sales contract ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Bodvar - I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively, although they do use side heads. As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and widow/orphan settings. And because settings are inherited, it may be specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a problem. Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in Format > Page Layout > Line Layout) of the text flow? Are your footnotes set to be "In Column" or "Across All Columns"? (I don't know if this makes a difference or not) You can try to re-hyphenate the document. Odd as it seems, this often clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem solvable. Good luck! On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to | this posting. | | Is this a problem that others have experienced? | | Bodvar | | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: | | > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt | > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a | > nice weekend. :-) | > | > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of | > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame | > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom | > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. | > | > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page | > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but | > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on | > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down | > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these | > will be some 800). | > | > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are | > two-column setup. | > | > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line | > of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was | > even harder to deal with. | > | > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard | > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That | > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines | > overrunning the footnotes. | > | > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other | > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. | > | > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you | > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) | > | > TBF | > | > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
FM to Word conversion
Martin Simon wrote: > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in > converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say > much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank > Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have > any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! Taboo? You must be new here. :-) This question gets asked about every other week, and twice in some weeks. The answers are always the same: first choice, Mif2Go (www.omsys.com); second choice, Save As RTF. Either way, as Art noted, you need a good Word template that matches the FM tags. If you don't have that, you might as well copy the content of each FM file, paste it into Word as plain text, and apply your Word styles manually. BTW, what FAQ were you talking about? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: FM to Word conversion
Martin Simon wrote: > I did not see all of those options since I was trying to > convert the book file. My choices were limited to fm, > mif,pdf,htm, and xml. Ah, so that's why you went the HTML route. :-) Remember, in FM, all the content is in the .fm files. The .book file just contains pointers to .fm files and information about how to combine them (numbering, PDF setup, etc.). > Now, I can see the many save as options available for the > individual chapters. So, in that case I would convert then > paste the chapters together, later? Yes. Keep in mind what Art and I said about the Word template. And keep in mind that many people have trouble with very large Word docs (the ones that don't have bulletproof templates and rigorous procedures). > As for the FAQs, I went to the frameusers, adobe, and the web. OK, you're using "FAQ" in a generic sense. Googling "FrameMaker FAQ" returns no hits. In any case, good luck with this project! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM to MS Word Convert
Martin Simon wrote: Good Morning List Folks, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Tim Murray has a good tip sheet here: http://techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf (It deals with conversions in both directions, not just word2frame.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." — from a foreign sales contract ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Learning FrameMaker 7.0 on Mactel (10.4.10) with Parallels/XP Home
Noel, I use FM7.2 & 8 on a daily basis on Windows XP Pro under Parallels. It has been a very stable environment for me. Using Parallels in Coherent mode means that FM sits nicely with my other Mac apps. I had one instance where the virtual hard disk got corrupt after an upgrade of Parallels and lost a small amount of work. Since then I share my Mac's user documents folder and store my work in there. This allows me to backup up my Windows files along with my Mac work at the same time. Being able to double click on an FM file from Mac's Finder and open it up in FrameMaker within Parallels makes life nice and easy. You can even drag a file from Finder into FrameMaker in Parallels. Regards Mark Poston Senior Consultant & Technical Architect Mekon Ltd. On 25/8/07 22:02, "Noel Lashbrook" wrote: > I am curious to know if anyone out there has a similar configuration > that is already running FrameMaker 7.0 successfully. I will be > starting a course this fall to learn the basics of FrameMaker 7.0. > > Noel > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as mark.poston at mekon.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mark.poston%40mekon.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Lester, Thank you for the suggestions. This is my first two column big job so far. I have not started feathering yet, but I found later today a suggestion lurking somewhere in my old posts (when ordered to delete out of my mail box) a suggestion that changing the widow/orphan to three lines. They are set to two lines. I cannot see that this behavior has any connection to keep with next/previous unless there are some headings etc. farther down the file that stopped the flowing. I did not check that. I will certainly bear that in mind now when I will be going over this again. As to rehyphenation, this happened when going through hyphenation by hand. Language being Icelandic, which is unsupported by Adobe, I had run the Dashes Pro Demo on the RTF files which were then imported to to FrameMaker 7.2. The Dashes Pro proved to be very inaccurate in hyphenation, the best thing was to do a find \- and either delete or keep and some times even add new. And to complicate things further, the eth and thorn and even an accented y (which are all parts of the extended ASCII) seem to FrameMaker just as some space character when it comes to hyphenating. Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar On 8/28/07, Lester C. Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bodvar - > > I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer > much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively, > although they do use side heads. > > As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with > element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and > widow/orphan settings. And because settings are inherited, it may be > specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a > problem. > > Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in > Format > Page Layout > Line Layout) of the text flow? > > Are your footnotes set to be "In Column" or "Across All Columns"? (I > don't know if this makes a difference or not) > > You can try to re-hyphenate the document. Odd as it seems, this often > clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem > solvable. > > Good luck! > > On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > > | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when > | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to > | this posting. > | > | Is this a problem that others have experienced? > | > | Bodvar > | > | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > | > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt > | > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a > | > nice weekend. :-) > | > > | > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of > | > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame > | > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the > bottom > | > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. > | > > | > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page > | > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but > | > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on > | > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down > | > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these > | > will be some 800). > | > > | > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are > | > two-column setup. > | > > | > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line > | > of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was > | > even harder to deal with. > | > > | > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard > | > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. > That > | > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines > | > overrunning the footnotes. > | > > | > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other > | > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. > | > > | > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you > | > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) > | > > | > TBF > | > > | > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson > > - Lester > --- > Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com > Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 > Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com > --- > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www
FM to Word conversion
I did not see all of those options since I was trying to convert the book file. My choices were limited to fm, mif,pdf,htm, and xml. Now, I can see the many save as options available for the individual chapters. So, in that case I would convert then paste the chapters together, later? As for the FAQs, I went to the frameusers, adobe, and the web. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+martin.simon=wetdesign@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+martin.simon=wetdesign.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:18 PM To: Martin Simon; framers Subject: RE: FM to Word conversion Martin Simon wrote: > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in > converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say > much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank > Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have > any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! Taboo? You must be new here. :-) This question gets asked about every other week, and twice in some weeks. The answers are always the same: first choice, Mif2Go (www.omsys.com); second choice, Save As RTF. Either way, as Art noted, you need a good Word template that matches the FM tags. If you don't have that, you might as well copy the content of each FM file, paste it into Word as plain text, and apply your Word styles manually. BTW, what FAQ were you talking about? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Martin.Simon at wetdesign.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/martin.simon%40wetde sign.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM to Word conversion
I did not see all of those options since I was trying to convert the book file. My choices were limited to fm, mif,pdf,htm, and xml. Now, I can see the many save as options available for the individual chapters. So, in that case I would convert then paste the chapters together, later? As for the FAQs, I went to the frameusers, adobe, and the web. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:18 PM To: Martin Simon; framers Subject: RE: FM to Word conversion Martin Simon wrote: > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in > converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say > much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank > Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have > any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! Taboo? You must be new here. :-) This question gets asked about every other week, and twice in some weeks. The answers are always the same: first choice, Mif2Go (www.omsys.com); second choice, Save As RTF. Either way, as Art noted, you need a good Word template that matches the FM tags. If you don't have that, you might as well copy the content of each FM file, paste it into Word as plain text, and apply your Word styles manually. BTW, what FAQ were you talking about? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/martin.simon%40wetde sign.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM to Word conversion
I second Rick's advice but would like to add a couple of hints about the RTF export that may be of use. First, have a *lot* of patience, particulalry if your document has many graphics. If there are a lot of graphics, the conversion runs so slowly that it is easy to think that Frame has hung or crashed. Don't believe it. Try starting the conversion just before you leave work so that you can let it run overnight. Second, in the days of FrameMaker 5.5.6 and 6.0, many users reported much better results with the Japanese RTF export filter rather than the regular RTF export filter. These reports basically dried up when FM7 was released, so the newer RTF1.6 filter may have resolved the issue. But you still might want to experiment with the three available RTF filters. Third, if this is more than a one-shot deal, you would be well advised to investigate Mif2Go, which does a really good job once you set it up. Plus it does high-quality conversion to HTML, WinHelp, HTML Help, Java Help, browser-based help, etc. From: "Rick Quatro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"framers" Subject: Re: FM to Word conversion Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:26:00 -0400 You can Save As RTF and see how that works, or use a third-party program like Mif2Go (http://www.omsys.com). Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Good Morning Framers List, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Messenger Café open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_AugHMtagline ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM to Word conversion
Martin Simon wrote: > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in > converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say > much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank > Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have > any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! Taboo? You must be new here. :-) This question gets asked about every other week, and twice in some weeks. The answers are always the same: first choice, Mif2Go (www.omsys.com); second choice, Save As RTF. Either way, as Art noted, you need a good Word template that matches the FM tags. If you don't have that, you might as well copy the content of each FM file, paste it into Word as plain text, and apply your Word styles manually. BTW, what FAQ were you talking about? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to this posting. Is this a problem that others have experienced? Bodvar On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a > nice weekend. :-) > > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. > > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these > will be some 800). > > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are > two-column setup. > > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line of > text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was even > harder to deal with. > > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines > overrunning the footnotes. > > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. > > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) > > TBF > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson >
List of Cross-References with Destinations
All: Is there any way to generate a list of cross reference markers that contains the file names of where the cross-reference points to, instead of just the verbage of the cross reference, etc. Amy Harvey Enercon Services, Inc. aharvey at enercon.com
Re: FM to MS Word Convert
I would have saved the Frame files as .RTF and opened those in Word, probably using a template that I'd already set up with styles that matched the FM tag names Art On 8/28/07, Martin Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good Morning List Folks, > > Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting > a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my > book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of > clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to > explore the why, simply the how. > Thanks a lot! > > Martin > ___ > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM to Word conversion
You can Save As RTF and see how that works, or use a third-party program like Mif2Go (http://www.omsys.com). Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Good Morning Framers List, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM to Word conversion
Good Morning Framers List, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
List of Cross-References with Destinations
All: Is there any way to generate a list of cross reference markers that contains the file names of where the cross-reference points to, instead of just the verbage of the cross reference, etc. Amy Harvey Enercon Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Help with footnote numbers
Tina, You set the size of the footnote reference in Format>Document>Text Options. This dialog allows you to set the size of superscripted text in relation to the associated body text. Ron >Message: 20 >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:58:34 -0700 >From: "Tina Ricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Help with footnote numbers >To: >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference >is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body >is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. >I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote >Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference >(in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the >reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from >the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply >a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character >styles don't seem to have any effect. >Any ideas? Thanks in advance. >Tina >tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of Framers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26 *** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM to MS Word Convert
Good Morning List Folks, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SOLVED: FM 8 Book fails to distill to PDF
I used the recommendation given to me by Art Campbell on framers to set the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog. That solved the problem; the book distilled to PDF without incident. Because I have avoided using Tagged PDF (because it bloats the size of the PDF file) in all earlier versions of FM I have used, I contacted Framemaker Tech Support at Adobe today to see if I could have done something else to solve my problem. The tech support specialist told me that the failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, that it occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM, and recommended that I continue to use this work-around, or to distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. Thanks to all who took the time to respond to the original message, and thanks especially to Art Campbell, who sent the tagging work-around, which is the most efficient solution for me. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM to Word conversion
Good Morning Framers List, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin
SOLVED: FM 8 Book fails to distill to PDF
I used the recommendation given to me by Art Campbell on framers to set the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog. That solved the problem; the book distilled to PDF without incident. Because I have avoided using Tagged PDF (because it bloats the size of the PDF file) in all earlier versions of FM I have used, I contacted Framemaker Tech Support at Adobe today to see if I could have done something else to solve my problem. The tech support specialist told me that the failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, that it occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM, and recommended that I continue to use this work-around, or to distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. Thanks to all who took the time to respond to the original message, and thanks especially to Art Campbell, who sent the tagging work-around, which is the most efficient solution for me. -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com
RE: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Bodvar - I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively, although they do use side heads. As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and widow/orphan settings. And because settings are inherited, it may be specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a problem. Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in Format > Page Layout > Line Layout) of the text flow? Are your footnotes set to be "In Column" or "Across All Columns"? (I don't know if this makes a difference or not) You can try to re-hyphenate the document. Odd as it seems, this often clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem solvable. Good luck! On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to | this posting. | | Is this a problem that others have experienced? | | Bodvar | | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt | > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a | > nice weekend. :-) | > | > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of | > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame | > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom | > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. | > | > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page | > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but | > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on | > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down | > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these | > will be some 800). | > | > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are | > two-column setup. | > | > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line | > of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was | > even harder to deal with. | > | > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard | > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That | > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines | > overrunning the footnotes. | > | > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other | > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. | > | > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you | > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) | > | > TBF | > | > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: > I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference > is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body > is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. > > > > I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote > Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference > (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the > reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from > the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply > a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character > styles don't seem to have any effect. > Size of Footnote references is governed by two things: the size of the default font defined in the pgf tag containing the reference, and the Format > Document > Text Options percentage for superscripts. Lower that percentage, and (all) your superscripts will shrink. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." ? from a foreign sales contract
Help with footnote numbers
Tina, You set the size of the footnote reference in Format>Document>Text Options. This dialog allows you to set the size of superscripted text in relation to the associated body text. Ron >Message: 20 >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:58:34 -0700 >From: "Tina Ricks" >Subject: Help with footnote numbers >To: >Message-ID: <001f01c7e8f5$6a9b9080$0201a8c0 at D3NVXM81> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference >is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body >is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. >I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote >Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference >(in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the >reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from >the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply >a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character >styles don't seem to have any effect. >Any ideas? Thanks in advance. >Tina >tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of Framers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26 ***
FM to MS Word Convert
Good Morning List Folks, Sorry, this questions seems taboo however, I am interested in converting a FM book to an MS Word doc. The FAQ didn't say much. I converted my book to HTML then pasted into a blank Word doc. There is a lot of clean-up necessary. Do you have any other ideas? I do not want to explore the why, simply the how. Thanks a lot! Martin
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Size of Footnote references is governed by two things: the size of the default font defined in the pgf tag containing the reference, and the Format > Document > Text Options percentage for superscripts. Lower that percentage, and (all) your superscripts will shrink. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." — from a foreign sales contract ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to this posting. Is this a problem that others have experienced? Bodvar On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a > nice weekend. :-) > > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. > > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these > will be some 800). > > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are > two-column setup. > > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line of > text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was even > harder to deal with. > > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines > overrunning the footnotes. > > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. > > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) > > TBF > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Learning FrameMaker 7.0 on Mactel (10.4.10) with Parallels/XP Home
Noel, I use FM7.2 & 8 on a daily basis on Windows XP Pro under Parallels. It has been a very stable environment for me. Using Parallels in Coherent mode means that FM sits nicely with my other Mac apps. I had one instance where the virtual hard disk got corrupt after an upgrade of Parallels and lost a small amount of work. Since then I share my Mac's user documents folder and store my work in there. This allows me to backup up my Windows files along with my Mac work at the same time. Being able to double click on an FM file from Mac's Finder and open it up in FrameMaker within Parallels makes life nice and easy. You can even drag a file from Finder into FrameMaker in Parallels. Regards Mark Poston Senior Consultant & Technical Architect Mekon Ltd. On 25/8/07 22:02, "Noel Lashbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am curious to know if anyone out there has a similar configuration > that is already running FrameMaker 7.0 successfully. I will be > starting a course this fall to learn the basics of FrameMaker 7.0. > > Noel > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mark.poston%40mekon.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: "I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. " No, the reference numeral's attributes in the main text are controlled by the default font settings of the paragraph in the main text. Change the default font to a dingbat font and you'll see what I mean -- it's independent of what you choose for the text of the footnote So far as I know -- I'd love to learn I'm wrong -- the only way to change the number's attributes is to change the default font attributes in the Para Designer. In your case, set the default para fontsize to 9 points, apply, and the footnote reference number will shrink too. But, you say, I don't want the regular text of the body paragraph to be 9 points. Solution: override. I did this with a book I prepared proofs of a couple of years ago. I wanted old-style figures for the footnote reference numbers in the main text and at the start of the footnote. So I made an "Expert variant" format for every type of paragraph in the main text that could have a footnote number in it, and made Kepler Expert the default for the footnote text paragraph. Then I created two formats for overriding the unwanted Expert (i.e., all characters except the reference numbers), one to use in footnotes and one to use in body text. This is not as painful as it sounds, unless you're changing a paragraph that's already been done in the old format, and it already contains a variety of Character Format overrides, as mine often did (math symbolism). Applying the format to change all the text in Expert (small caps for letters) back to the standard one overrides those other overrides if you apply it to all the paratext -- so either you do that, then go back and restore the original overrides, or else you apply the "regular text" override to segments between original character overrides. It's a whole lot better if you can anticipate in advance if your para is going to have a footnote in it, set the variant format, type space at the end, then start typing ahead of the space with the special override applied. But a lot of the time you can't anticipate this. For at least 14 years people have been asking the owners of FrameMaker to fix the many problems with the footnoting facility, some of which require workarounds even uglier than the above. Don't hold your breath. Graeme Forbes
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: "I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. " No, the reference numeral's attributes in the main text are controlled by the default font settings of the paragraph in the main text. Change the default font to a dingbat font and you'll see what I mean -- it's independent of what you choose for the text of the footnote So far as I know -- I'd love to learn I'm wrong -- the only way to change the number's attributes is to change the default font attributes in the Para Designer. In your case, set the default para fontsize to 9 points, apply, and the footnote reference number will shrink too. But, you say, I don't want the regular text of the body paragraph to be 9 points. Solution: override. I did this with a book I prepared proofs of a couple of years ago. I wanted old-style figures for the footnote reference numbers in the main text and at the start of the footnote. So I made an "Expert variant" format for every type of paragraph in the main text that could have a footnote number in it, and made Kepler Expert the default for the footnote text paragraph. Then I created two formats for overriding the unwanted Expert (i.e., all characters except the reference numbers), one to use in footnotes and one to use in body text. This is not as painful as it sounds, unless you're changing a paragraph that's already been done in the old format, and it already contains a variety of Character Format overrides, as mine often did (math symbolism). Applying the format to change all the text in Expert (small caps for letters) back to the standard one overrides those other overrides if you apply it to all the paratext -- so either you do that, then go back and restore the original overrides, or else you apply the "regular text" override to segments between original character overrides. It's a whole lot better if you can anticipate in advance if your para is going to have a footnote in it, set the variant format, type space at the end, then start typing ahead of the space with the special override applied. But a lot of the time you can't anticipate this. For at least 14 years people have been asking the owners of FrameMaker to fix the many problems with the footnoting facility, some of which require workarounds even uglier than the above. Don't hold your breath. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
