Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question

[Ragnar Hanås]

You will need to reinstall FM. When choosing ”custom installation”, you can 
choose a number of languages that FM will install the dictionary for.
Ragnar Hanås
Uddevalla Hospital 
Sweden

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On 9 Sep 2021, at 21:14, Peter Gold  wrote:

Perhaps IT has a backup of the previous image?

> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 12:54 PM A Craig  wrote:
> 
> 
> Win 10
> FrameMaker: Monthly subscription
> 
> 
> During a recent (massive) IT update, all our computers were re-imaged.
> Unfortunately, I forgot to grab a copy of maker.ini for use after the "big
> change".
> 
> Also unfortunately, I cannot remember the exact wording to reset the
> maker.ini language to Canadian English from "USEnglish" (see below). I've
> tried a couple of things but I'm getting a message that says:
> 
> "FrameMaker cannot initialize its dictionaries. Either the
> LanguageDir entry specified in the initialization file is missing
> or incorrect, or the files in the LanguageDir are missing or
> currupted,"
> 
> 
> Back when I installed FrameMaker this past spring, I know I edited
> maker.ini to use Canadian English and it worked just fine.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> 
> [Frame]
> ;- Generic information
> -
> Language=USEnglish
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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I'm still on 7.2 and don't intend to switch. No problems printing a 20-chapter 
book to a ps file (although FM insists calling it .prn which I change to .ps). 
I then use Distiller X and get a nice pdf file for printing. I must remember to 
uncheck "Rely on systems fonts only, do not use document fonts" in Adobe PDF 
settings. I also like IXGEN and use Trados S-Tagger for translations so don't 
want to lose these if upgrading. And no subscription fees 😊
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Wendy McGovern
Sent: den 8 juni 2021 17:25
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

Hi, Framers!

We have been using Frame 7.0 forever and it has always been stable and worked 
for us, so we never upgraded (especially after hearing complaints from this 
list about the interface, problems, etc. of subsequent versions). We do have 
font issues in creating PDFs with the latest Acrobat, where switching printer 
drivers (we print to Postscript and distill to PDF) can cause slight font 
differences. Most of the time it doesn't cause any problems, but there have 
been instances of some bumped text.

I think we finally may switch to the latest Frame (will be using unstructured). 
I looked at the website demo and it looks like the basic product is the same; 
we just would have to get used to the different UI with its pods. But I 
couldn't believe they actually have fixed the footnote problem where the 
footnote bumps to the next page if it won't fit on the same page as its 
reference number.

I'm still a little skeptical, though, whether the new version actually "splits" 
the footnote like Word does and puts part of the note on the next page or 
whether the new Frame just moves the whole note to be on the same page as the 
reference number, leaving a big ugly gap on the page.

I'm also worried we'll have to go without IXGEN anymore, as I understand it 
only works with 32-bit and the new Frame is strictly 64-bit.

I love our good ol' Frame, but am tired of worrying about the font changes in 
PDFing and having to manually wrangle footnotes. Can anyone give me any advice 
on how good the latest version is? Now that it's subscription only, will we be 
stuck having to upgrade as new versions come out, whether we want to or not?

Wendy McGovern



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Re: [Framers] Unlearn FM 7.2

[Ragnar Hanås]

Thanks for the links. I found the “guilty” word when I wrote the personal 
dictionary to a file and opened it in FM 7.2 (forgot to mention version). After 
deleting this word, I saved it as a text file according to instructions and 
renamed it to .dct from within FM. However, changing the personal dictionary to 
this new file did not change the function of the spelling checker, i.e. it did 
not identify the word, just said “Spelling ok”. Same thing if I marked all 
paragraphs for rechecking. Something seems to be strange with these dct files 
as I cannot see them in Explorer, only from within FM?

If I go into Character Designer and change language of the word, it will be 
identified by the spelling checker. That would indicate that the word is 
correct Swedish, ie passed through the default dictionary, but it is definitely 
not.

From: Monique Semp 
Sent: den 2 juni 2021 16:36
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
; Ragnar Hanås 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Unlearn FM 7.2

Likely the wrong spelling is in one of the many dictionaries that FrameMaker 
has. This article gives a good summary of the dictionaries: 
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemaker-2015/frm_text_tx/Dictionaries-.htm.
 It does not say which versions of FrameMaker it's for, but it's likely 
relevant for version 7.2?

And another reference: 
https://www.aecinc.com/company/blog/2020/07/20/framemaker-tips-spelling-checker-options/.

HTH,
-Monique

On 6/2/21 2:32 AM, Ragnar Hanås wrote:

I am updating a book and cannot get rid of an obviously misspelled word in the 
spelling checker, i.e it does not catch it. Same result if I copy the word to 
another book file or add it to a new standalone file, so obviously must be 
outside document level. If I change one letter in the word, it is immediately 
identified as misspelled.

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[Framers] Unlearn FM 7.2

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,
I am updating a book and cannot get rid of an obviously misspelled word in the 
spelling checker, i.e it does not catch it. Same result if I copy the word to 
another book file or add it to a new standalone file, so obviously must be 
outside document level. If I change one letter in the word, it is immediately 
identified as misspelled.
I have tried:
Unlearn
Mark all paragraphs for rechecking
Rehyphenate document
Write document dictionaly to a file (it was empty)
Clear document dictionary
Deleting user.dct so FM creates a new file
Searching maker.ini for other dct
It finds only site.dct which does not contain the word
Checked language on paragraph and character level: Swedish on both
Saving the file as mif and opening again.

Any ideas appreciated.
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

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[Framers] number of windows

[Ragnar Hanås]

I am using FM 7.2 and often have a lot of book files open. Is there any way to 
increase the number of files shown in the Window tab (currently 9)?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I have been using FM 7.2 with Win 10 for almost a year now without problems. 
There are 2 patches, and which you should install depends on which version of 
FM 7.2 you are installing. I can't remember exactly what I did, but got it 
working after some experimenting. Even less crashes than with Win 8.1
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: den 18 december 2019 13:00
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Subject: Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

I do not think Frame 7.2 is supported on Windows 10.

I used it on Vista! With a windows XP emulator (of some type)

Caroline Tabach

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, 01:01 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker 
> documents into Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with 
> MIf2Go as a converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 
> on a new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web 
> page at 
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Win
> dows I see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to 
> install.  My problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the 
> downloaded patches' Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within 
> the Downloads folder and click its contained setup.exe program, a 
> wizard starts but gives me an ominous "Severe" error popup (not 
> elaborating what is so severe), followed by an off-the-wall message 
> that "The system is running very low on disk. You need to free up at 
> least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard drive has plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the 
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe 
> Online Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message 
> that reads "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe 
> Online Error;File Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would 
> be appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
>
> Thank you,
>
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Re: [Framers] Does Mif2Go work in Windows 10?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I have no problems with FM 7.2 on Win 10.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: den 25 juni 2019 18:44
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Does Mif2Go work in Windows 10?

I have FM8.1 running on Win10. It's as solid as it was on Win7.

Lea


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www.astoria-pacific.com

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:26 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Does Mif2Go work in Windows 10?

>From what I recollect, it is not definite that Frame 7.2 will work on Windows 
>10, you might need some type of emulated previous Windows version.



Caroline Tabach

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 15:52 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any issues/problems running Mif2Go in Windows 10?  
> I know that Jeremy Griffith passed away in 2014, so I suspect there 
> may be problems.
>
> I've been using Mif2Go successfully with an older FrameMaker version
> (7.2)  under Windows 7.  I use it to convert legacy FrameMaker 
> documentation to Confluence-friendly XHTML for import (paste) into 
> Confluence's Source Editor.
>
> I'm trying to anticipate problems if my current PC is forced to retire 
> soon.  From what I understand, my FrameMaker 7.2 should still work in 
> Windows 10.
>
> Thank you for any tips,
>
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Re: [Framers] Font not available

[Ragnar Hanås]

If you print through Distiller, there is a setting under Settings -> Edit Adobe 
PDF Settings -> Fonts
When embedding fails: Warn and continue
This worked for me when I had the same problem. I have "Embed all fonts" checked
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: den 24 maj 2019 20:52
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font not available

Hi Carol,

I tried this, but it still reflows. Thanks for the reminder.

Rick

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Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 2:15 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font not available

Rick, you've probably already checked this, but make sure in your Print Setup 
settings for Adobe PDF Document Properties that "Rely on system fonts only; do 
not use document fots" is NOT selected.

Carol

At 12:06 PM 5/24/2019, Rick Quatro wrote:
>Hi Framers,
>
>
>
>I am getting this message when I save as PDF from FrameMaker 2019.
>
>
>
>The "Times" Font is not available.
>
>   It will be replaced by "Times New Roman".
>
>
>
>It is causing my document to reflow when I create a PDF. I am not using 
>Times in the document.
>
>
>
>I can see where the reflow is taking place: a paragraph that was two 
>lines is now one line. But that paragraph uses Arial so I don't get why 
>it reflows when I switch to the Adobe PDF printer. Any help would be
appreciated.
>
>
>
>Rick
>
>
>
>Rick Quatro
>
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Re: [Framers] Fwd: Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[Ragnar Hanås]

Trados S-Tagger can convert FM files to rtf with formatting tags to be used for 
translation purposes. You then import back the translated text into FM and get 
back all the formatting. I don't know if you can export it from S-Tagger into 
another program but at least you would get the text out. I'm still with FM 7.2 
doing a good job for me.
Ragnar Hanas
Sweden 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+ragnar.hanas=betamed...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 22:57
To: Frame Users 
Subject: [Framers] Fwd: Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Forwarding this to the list, since for all I know the message I sent directly 
may have gotten caught in a spam filter.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Lin Sims 
Date: Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
To: 


How does this sound to you?

One of the participants on the Frameusers list is asking if there are any 
applications that can import a FrameMaker binary file for the purpose of 
editing it. The company is an anti-money-laundering company (AML) and doesn't 
want to have programs on its network that have to "call home" for 
authentication.


For whatever reason, they've been unable to get either his previous version of 
Frame (11) to work or to get the most recent version (2019) to work, but I am 
unclear as to why they haven't been able to.


They are no longer using Frame at his place of business, so all new work is in 
a different application. However, he still needs to be able to update old files 
and convert them into the new format.


I am unaware of any application that can import .fm files, but that doesn't 
mean they don't exist. I'm hoping someone here either knows of one or can help 
provide him with a way to get either his old or new version of Frame working 
without the need of an internet connection to authenticate it.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:34 PM  wrote:

> Lin...I'd be fine with that if you want to take the time.
>
> Right now, cost of the application is not a factor (well...you know, 
> within reason...no 250k enterprise application, but within a couple $k)...
> All I would need is a pointer to the application...I'll take it from there.
> You can use my name, but you cannot use my bank's name.
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:22 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is 
> aware of a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new 
> format. Do you want me to? And if so, how would you like the 
> information conveyed?
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM  wrote:
>
> > I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that 
> > kicks FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.
> >
> > What do I know. Thanks everyone
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
> >
> > This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but 
> > typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have 
> > FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format.
> >
> > FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate 
> > application for migration.
> >
> > ...scott
> >
> >
> > On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> > > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that 
> > > nobody has come along and offered an application for people who 
> > > are FM users but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, John:
> > >>
> > >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would 
> > >> have to be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone 
> > >> home to Adobe. I use ID
> > >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are 
> > >> acceptable on the corporate network, and which of them do folks 
> > >> on the list think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid 
> > >> having to slog through this effort going forward?
> > >>
> > >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
> > >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
> > >> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
> > >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Ragnar Hanås]

I had the same issues on W7. With W8.1 on a new computer it happens very 
seldom. I still use FM7.2 (unstructured) as it has all I need. I did purchase 
both FM9 and 10 but didn't find them good enough to go through the learning 
curve with the new interface.
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+ragnar.hanas=betamed...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 03:53
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I was 
using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move this 
project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to solve the 
problem and make life a whole lot easier?

I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.

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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for 
> me. Download it here:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx
>
> Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer 
>  wrote:
> > Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Not Responding on New PC

[Ragnar Hanås]

I had some problems with FM 7.2 on Windows 7. It would crash every now and 
then, mostly when I highlighted text. After installing it on a new computer 
with Windows 64-bit 8.1 I have had no problems. I run it in standard mode, no 
compatibility.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+ragnar.hanas=betamed...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 18:39
To: Kevin Ryan ; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Not Responding on New PC

Did they switch you from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows? The latter is much less 
compatible with legacy software.

You might try XP Mode. It's a virtual machine running XP within Windows 7.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Kevin Ryan  
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After using my older version of FrameMaker on Windows 7 without issues on a 
> Dell Latitude E6430 laptop for several years, my company just replaced my 
> laptop with a new Latitude E6540, also having Windows 7.  I've recently begun 
> using the program on the new PC for the first time since initial setup of my 
> fonts, Mif2go, and Character/Paragraph tools.  FrameMaker seems to work 
> normally except that 2-3 times a day I can pretty much rely on a "FrameMaker 
> Not Responding" freeze-up hosing my work out of the blue.
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RE: What is your experience with FM12 using the 5K Retina screen?

[Ragnar Hanås]

Why not a Fujitsu Lifebook U904?
Even better resolution than Mac (3200 x 1800 vs 2880x1800). The 14' format 
makes it much more easier to work while travelling. And no problems running FM!
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 17:55
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: What is your experience with FM12 using the 5K Retina screen?

There are a number of people on this list (I believe) who have dealt with 
issues using FM12 on retina MacBook Pro laptops. I know it's not exactly the 
same thing, but it's well beyond the "compatible" resolution for FM. You might 
search the archives for "retina" or perhaps those people will chime in with 
their experiences.

Good luck!
...scott


On 4/15/15 2:26 AM, Austin Meredith wrote:
Because of fading eyesight due to old age, I have been thinking about upgrading 
my hardware and software. I'd like to purchase a new iMac loaded with the 
Windows operating system, because of Apple's amazing brilliant precise 5K 
Retina monitor on which print appears so crisp, and then run FrameMaker 12 
under Windows on that iMac. However, when I contacted Adobe about whether it 
was possible to run FrameMaker 12 at full screen resolution on the 5K Retina 
monitor, they responded that -- despite the fact that the 5K Retina monitor has 
been being sold for some time now, they have yet to test this!

Apparently Adobe's attitude is that I would need to first pig-in-a-poke 
purchase the latest Apple hardware, and download and install their latest Adobe 
software, and then test for native screen resolution *myself*. --If it should 
turn out that FM12 won't run on the 5K Retina screen I had just purchased at 
full resolution, then I'm SOL, and shame on my eyes for getting old.

Question #1: Has anyone on this list succeeded in running FM12 at full screen 
resolution on a 5K Retina monitor? Or, has it been necessary to degrade the 
resolution of the screen in order to run FM12? Question #2: If it has been 
necessary to degrade the resolution of this monitor in order to run FM12, how 
does FM12 look on this monitor? --Is it superior in quality of image, crispness 
of print, etc., or is it inferior? Question #3: Should I instead purchase some 
other brand of monitor for the visually disabled, such as the latest hi-res 
big-screen monitor offered by Dell?


(This was Adobe's response: "The Compatible screen resolution is 1024x768 
screen resolution (1280x800 recommended) mentioned under 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html. 5K Retina screen has 
not yet been tested with FrameMaker 12. We had tested 4K with FrameMaker 12 and 
were experiencing issues with the display and eventually had to adjust the 
display resolution. However, If you want you can install the trial version for 
FrameMaker 12 and check if it works fine with your display or not.")



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RE: Basic question: Book revision best practices

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello Tim,
I do the same; just copy the contents of the whole folder, keeping the same 
file names for all the chapters, .book, TOC,IX, generated files etc. I am now 
on 7.23 (FM 7.2, 23rd version). Started with 4.1 in 1994 :)
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 18:15
To: 'Tim Pann'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Basic question: Book revision best practices

Hi Tim,

I prefer to do my versioning at the folder level. That way, I never have to 
rename .book or .fm files. When I am ready for 1.1, I create a folder and copy 
all of the 1.0 files to it. You can rename book components and FrameMaker will 
resolve cross-references, etc. but I prefer filenames that I can leave 
unchanged.

Rick

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:55 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Basic question: Book revision best practices

Hello,

I'm a long-time lurker sometime poster. Not particularly active on the list 
because my use of Frame is pretty limited. (I am a technical trainer and I do 
not follow strict version control practices, so some of this will probably make 
some folks on this list bristle.) But I would love some input on this 
particular issue. I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7 but I doubt that is relevant 
here.

I have a book file that contains several chapters, a TOC, and a title page. 
Very simple. The book is version 1.0. The book file and all other files contain 
"v1-0" in the filename. All files have "Version 1.0" in the footer, and the 
date of release.

Now I want to make changes, so it will become version 1.1. What do best 
practices say to do? I assume save all content, TOC, and title files as new 
"v1-1" files. Should I create a new "v1-1" book file into which the v1-1 
content goes? Or should the book file itself be version agnostic?

Depending on answers to these questions I may have other questions so feel free 
to be exhaustive. Or, if you can provide a link to such information all the 
better.

Thank you,
Tim
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RE: fuzzy fonts in W 8.1

[Ragnar Hanås]

I just found the answer here:
http://superuser.com/questions/643443/how-to-set-systemwide-xp-style-dpi-sca
ling-in-windows-8-1

In W 8.1 "Use Windows XP style DPI scaling" checkbox in the Custom DPI
Setting dialog has been removed.

 

So you need to do this for every program:

Right-click on icon before opening program

Properties tab

Compatibility tab

check "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" box

 

Works fine for FM7, 10 and Acrobat Pro

:-} Ragnar

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ragnar Hanås
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:54
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: fuzzy fonts in W 8.1

 

Hello,

I just upgraded to a new computer with W 8.1 and installed FM 7.2 and FM 10.
Both have fuzzy fonts in the documents AND file names in book files, text
boxes, menus etc. I also noted that when I open a pdf in IE 11 the text is
crystal sharp. But if I save this file and open it in Acrobat X, the fonts
are fuzzy. Text in Office 2013 is sharp. So it seems the fonts are
interpreted differently in different programs. I remember in XP there could
be an issue with blurry fonts that was cleared by going to Display
Properties -> Appearance -> Effects and then unchecking the top 2 boxes
(transition effects and smooth edges). Any ideas how to change the settings
in W8? I tried to uncheck “smooth edges of screen fonts” under performance
options, but this had no effect. On my previous W7, the fonts in FM turned
sharp when I selected “Adjust for best performance”, but then the whole
display of Windows changes.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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fuzzy fonts in W 8.1

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I just upgraded to a new computer with W 8.1 and installed FM 7.2 and FM 10.
Both have fuzzy fonts in the documents AND file names in book files, text
boxes, menus etc. I also noted that when I open a pdf in IE 11 the text is
crystal sharp. But if I save this file and open it in Acrobat X, the fonts
are fuzzy. Text in Office 2013 is sharp. So it seems the fonts are
interpreted differently in different programs. I remember in XP there could
be an issue with blurry fonts that was cleared by going to Display
Properties -> Appearance -> Effects and then unchecking the top 2 boxes
(transition effects and smooth edges). Any ideas how to change the settings
in W8? I tried to uncheck “smooth edges of screen fonts” under performance
options, but this had no effect. On my previous W7, the fonts in FM turned
sharp when I selected “Adjust for best performance”, but then the whole
display of Windows changes.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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RE: Translating FM files into Japonese

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

He probably refers to the Trados filter S-tagger that converts FM files to
Word (rft) files with colored tags. The translator will just translate the
text in between the colored tags, and then you can convert back into
Japanese with S-Tagger. I did that with Japanese many years ago. The
learning curve can be a bit tricky, bit is really rather straight-forward
once you get used to it. You would need to install Japanese fonts as well.
The problem is that Trados does not sell this as a standalone program
anymore, so you would have to purchase the whole Trados package. Therefore
is seems better that the translation agency who probably already has a
Trados license does the S-Tagger work as well.

Regards,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospita,

Sweden

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:16 PM
To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Translating FM files into Japonese

 

Hi,

 

We have located a translator in Japan to translate a 300-page training
booklet written in English. The document is very largely table based with
typically an image in row 1 and the caption underneath in row 2 with
straddled narrow columns containing arrows to show a sequence of actions. 

 

The translator is charging reasonable translation costs and then there is an
additional 12$/page cost because the files are from FrameMaker. When we
questioned that cost, he asked if we could provide files in Trados format.
Maybe he is not familiar with FrameMaker files.

 

Anyway, I find this strange as in the past I have always provided FM files
and the company doing the translation took care of everything else on their
side. I received my Fm files translated into the target language from which
I made PDFs.

 

Can anyone familiar with translating FM files explain why the individual is
requesting files in Trados format? Can that be done – just pay a company to
generate Trados files from FM files?

 

Many thanks (cold and wet here in Quebec City at 10 Celcius),

 

Stephen O'BRIEN
Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior |
Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
  sobr...@innovmetric.com
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F (1) 418.688.3001

 

 

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Translating FM files into Japonese

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

He probably refers to the Trados filter S-tagger that converts FM files to
Word (rft) files with colored tags. The translator will just translate the
text in between the colored tags, and then you can convert back into
Japanese with S-Tagger. I did that with Japanese many years ago. The
learning curve can be a bit tricky, bit is really rather straight-forward
once you get used to it. You would need to install Japanese fonts as well.
The problem is that Trados does not sell this as a standalone program
anymore, so you would have to purchase the whole Trados package. Therefore
is seems better that the translation agency who probably already has a
Trados license does the S-Tagger work as well.

Regards,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospita,

Sweden



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:16 PM
To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Translating FM files into Japonese



Hi,



We have located a translator in Japan to translate a 300-page training
booklet written in English. The document is very largely table based with
typically an image in row 1 and the caption underneath in row 2 with
straddled narrow columns containing arrows to show a sequence of actions. 



The translator is charging reasonable translation costs and then there is an
additional 12$/page cost because the files are from FrameMaker. When we
questioned that cost, he asked if we could provide files in Trados format.
Maybe he is not familiar with FrameMaker files.



Anyway, I find this strange as in the past I have always provided FM files
and the company doing the translation took care of everything else on their
side. I received my Fm files translated into the target language from which
I made PDFs.



Can anyone familiar with translating FM files explain why the individual is
requesting files in Trados format? Can that be done ? just pay a company to
generate Trados files from FM files?



Many thanks (cold and wet here in Quebec City at 10 Celcius),



Stephen O'BRIEN
Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior |
Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
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RE: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Ragnar Hanås]

I agree, this manual work of inserting soft returns to the index is very
irritating. 

Your solution didn´t work for me. On the reference page I have

 

><$pagenum> (the first “>” is a tab stop)

I tried

>\t<$pagenum> and >\t\t\t<$pagenum>

But it did not change the index output

 

Still looks like this:

Nhgjgkjgjhgkh ghgjhg …..154, 217
   232

 

And for other entries:

Nhgjgkjgjhgkh ghgjhg …..154, 217
   232 .268, 395

 

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

 

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:18 PM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: Framer's List
Subject: Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

 

Thanks for correcting that Stuart (was multi-tasking, not wise!)

 

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Stuart Rogers <
 srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com>
wrote:

On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:

Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not tab
stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of automation
for those long entries.

 

... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other generated
file.







On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler < 
j...@mahler.com> wrote:

I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even indexes.
When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index entries), the
tab character that should position the page number at right aligned tab
doesn’t work, and the page number appears left justified on the second line
with or without continued text. I’ve always gone through and manually fixed
the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are generated, but I
have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that are 20 pages each.
Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this problem? My experiments
haven’t turned up a solution.

 

 

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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Ragnar Hanås]

I agree, this manual work of inserting soft returns to the index is very
irritating. 

Your solution didn?t work for me. On the reference page I have



><$pagenum> (the first ?>? is a tab stop)

I tried

>\t<$pagenum> and >\t\t\t<$pagenum>

But it did not change the index output



Still looks like this:

Nhgjgkjgjhgkh ghgjhg 
..154, 217
   232



And for other entries:

Nhgjgkjgjhgkh ghgjhg 
..154, 217
   232 











.268, 395



Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden







From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:18 PM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: Framer's List
Subject: Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists



Thanks for correcting that Stuart (was multi-tasking, not wise!)



On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Stuart Rogers <
 srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>
wrote:

On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:

Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not tab
stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of automation
for those long entries.



... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other generated
file.







On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler < 
jay at mahler.com> wrote:

I?m sure you?ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even indexes.
When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index entries), the
tab character that should position the page number at right aligned tab
doesn?t work, and the page number appears left justified on the second line
with or without continued text. I?ve always gone through and manually fixed
the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are generated, but I
have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that are 20 pages each.
Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this problem? My experiments
haven?t turned up a solution.





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Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

Thanks for putting me on the track. It turned out that a previous FM
installation on a computer that had a blue screen error had not been
deactivated. After having done so, the update worked smoothly.



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:42 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10



What happens if you run it from the Help > Updates menu? Does it think it?s
already in place?

BTW ? I assume you?ve got full admin rights to your machine, right?



From: Ragnar Han?s  
[mailto:ragnar.hanas at betamed.se] 
Sent: May-07-12 4:40 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth;  
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10



I downloaded the fix from the web and started it from Explorer.



From:  
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:13 PM
To:   framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10



How did you update? Via Help > Updates or the Adobe Downloads website?



From:  
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ragnar Han?s
Sent: May-06-12 9:02 AM
To:   framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10



Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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RE: Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

Thanks for putting me on the track. It turned out that a previous FM
installation on a computer that had a blue screen error had not been
deactivated. After having done so, the update worked smoothly.

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10

 

What happens if you run it from the Help > Updates menu? Does it think it’s
already in place?

BTW – I assume you’ve got full admin rights to your machine, right?

 

From: Ragnar Hanås  <mailto:[mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]>
[mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] 
Sent: May-07-12 4:40 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth;  <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10

 

I downloaded the fix from the web and started it from Explorer.

 

From:  <mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
<mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]>
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:13 PM
To:  <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10

 

How did you update? Via Help > Updates or the Adobe Downloads website?

 

From:  <mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
<mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]>
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ragnar Hanås
Sent: May-06-12 9:02 AM
To:  <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10

 

Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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Turkish Characters Don't Display

[Ragnar Hanås]

I have published a book with Arial TUR displaying correctly with FM 6, 
including the character you mention.

Try adding "Arial,186" to

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes]

Ragnar Hanas, MD

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Gagne
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display



Hi Ed,

Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a 
similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see 
Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long 
enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates 
certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped 
incorrectly and had to be edited manually.



Berny Gagne

Sr. Technical Writer

Thinkpath Engineering

Toronto, Ontario



From: Ed Lightle 
To: Rick Quatro ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AM
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display



Rick,

I?m still using FrameMaker 7.0.



Thanks,

Ed



From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AM
To: Ed Lightle; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display



Hi Ed,



What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports 
Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator 
that at least matches your version.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

585-219-8959 fax

rick at frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com  







From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display



Here is some more information from my translator.



- FrameMaker 7.1

- Windows Vista Home Premium



- Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The 
characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. 
Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working.



- Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have 
Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM.



Thanks,

Ed Lightle



From: Ed Lightle 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display



Hello.  My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English 
documents to Turkish.  But he has the following problem:



I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some 
Turkish characters.  For example, the ??? in the word ?de?ildir?.



Any idea why this is happening?



Thanks,



Ed Lightle

Sr. Technical Writer

614-799-0600 Ext. 5225



Command Alkon

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RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

[Ragnar Hanås]

I have published a book with Arial TUR displaying correctly with FM 6, 
including the character you mention.

Try adding "Arial,186" to

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes]

Ragnar Hanas, MD

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Gagne
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display

 

Hi Ed,

Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a 
similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see 
Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long 
enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates 
certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped 
incorrectly and had to be edited manually.

 

Berny Gagne

Sr. Technical Writer

Thinkpath Engineering

Toronto, Ontario

 

From: Ed Lightle 
To: Rick Quatro ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AM
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

 

Rick,

I’m still using FrameMaker 7.0.

 

Thanks,

Ed

 

From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AM
To: Ed Lightle; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

 

Hi Ed,

 

What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports 
Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator 
that at least matches your version.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

585-219-8959 fax

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com  

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

 

Here is some more information from my translator.

 

- FrameMaker 7.1

- Windows Vista Home Premium

 

- Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The 
characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. 
Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working.

 

- Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have 
Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM.

 

Thanks,

Ed Lightle

 

From: Ed Lightle 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display

 

Hello.  My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English 
documents to Turkish.  But he has the following problem:

 

I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some 
Turkish characters.  For example, the “ğ” in the word “değildir”.

 

Any idea why this is happening?

 

Thanks,

 

Ed Lightle

Sr. Technical Writer

614-799-0600 Ext. 5225

 

Command Alkon

5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339

Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650  Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com 
 

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RE: Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

I downloaded the fix from the web and started it from Explorer.

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:13 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10

 

How did you update? Via Help > Updates or the Adobe Downloads website?

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ragnar Hanås
Sent: May-06-12 9:02 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10

 

Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

I downloaded the fix from the web and started it from Explorer.



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:13 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Updating FM10



How did you update? Via Help > Updates or the Adobe Downloads website?



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Sent: May-06-12 9:02 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10



Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

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RE: Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

Forgot to add that I am using Windows 7 x 32. I did the update via remote
control of desktop, if that makes a difference?

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ragnar Hanås
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10

 

Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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Forgot to add that I am using Windows 7 x 32. I did the update via remote
control of desktop, if that makes a difference?



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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:02 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating FM10



Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

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Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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Updating FM10

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I am trying to apply the 10.0.2 fix to 10.0.1.408 French version. The
process finishes by saying that the update is complete. However, when I open
FM it still is 10.0.1.408. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

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RE: Translating English to Portuguese

[Ragnar Hanås]

Depends on the budget you have. I've done all my books (300-400 pages) with
colleagues translating the text in the S-tagger produced rtf files - no
professionals involved, and quite straight forward. Producing the rtf
S-tagger files is no problem, the filter is easy to use even for an amateur
(I am a doctor, but have used FM for writing books since the FM3 version).
I have done Russian in FM 7.2 with the Arial CYR and other CYR fonts. A bit
tricky to set up into the first place, but then it works very smoothly.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:53 PM
To: ragnar.ha...@betamed.se; dave.st...@gdc4s.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Yes, but you should leave the S-tagger part and translation to a
professional translator or bureau. Don't do it yourself. It's their job.
Just provide MIF files and receive MIF files back.

Note that for Russian you'd need at least Framemaker 8 - and instruct the
translation vendor to process the MIF (with S-tagger) as Unicode, not
default FrameMaker as up to FM 7.


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 – December 2011 in Utrecht – Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 –
April 2012 in Utrecht – Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 – june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent –
DITA and topic based information development tel. +31652036811 Skype
wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 november 2011 17:26
Aan: dave.st...@gdc4s.com; w...@idtp.eu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

The S-Tagger filter from Trados is a very convenient way of translating from
FM. I have used it for 10 different languages, including Russian. You export
rtf files with color-coded tags from FM, so it is very easy to see what to
translate, and what not to touch. Cross-references (like "page 65") are
colored, so the translator knows that that should be left as is. When
importing the translated file, S-Tagger provides you with a list of any
errors that have been made (like deleting a tag by accident), so you can
easily fix it. With mif files it is much more difficult to see what to
translate, and what is code text.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital,
Sweden

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:26 PM
To: w...@idtp.eu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T14:25Z

Wim -

For one translation, we provided and received .fm files.  For the other
translation, we provided and received .rtf files.

My thought was to provide and receive .fm files; then, convert the
translated .fm files into on-station help.  Translate once; use twice.
(Unfortunately, many persons still do not know of this concept.)

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 09:20
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi Dave,

If you didn't consider MIF files, what would have been your approach (just
curious ...)?


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 - December 2011 in Utrecht - Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 -
April 2012 in Utrecht - Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 - june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent -
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Aan: w...@idtp.eu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T13:55Z

Wim -

¡Thanks for your encouraging words, expertise, and information!

More than five years ago, we did translate into two foreign languages, so we
do have some experience.  But, the world has turned over many times since
then, and many things have changed.

Your and others' responses tend to reinforce my hope that we can follow the
best-possible course of action as I perc

RE: Translating English to Portuguese

[Ragnar Hanås]

The S-Tagger filter from Trados is a very convenient way of translating from
FM. I have used it for 10 different languages, including Russian. You export
rtf files with color-coded tags from FM, so it is very easy to see what to
translate, and what not to touch. Cross-references (like "page 65") are
colored, so the translator knows that that should be left as is. When
importing the translated file, S-Tagger provides you with a list of any
errors that have been made (like deleting a tag by accident), so you can
easily fix it. With mif files it is much more difficult to see what to
translate, and what is code text.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital,
Sweden

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dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:26 PM
To: w...@idtp.eu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T14:25Z

Wim -

For one translation, we provided and received .fm files.  For the other
translation, we provided and received .rtf files.

My thought was to provide and receive .fm files; then, convert the
translated .fm files into on-station help.  Translate once; use twice.
(Unfortunately, many persons still do not know of this concept.)

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 09:20
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi Dave,

If you didn't consider MIF files, what would have been your approach (just
curious ...)?


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 - December 2011 in Utrecht - Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 -
April 2012 in Utrecht - Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 - june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent -
DITA and topic based information development tel. +31652036811 Skype
wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com]
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 november 2011 14:53
Aan: w...@idtp.eu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T13:55Z

Wim -

¡Thanks for your encouraging words, expertise, and information!

More than five years ago, we did translate into two foreign languages, so we
do have some experience.  But, the world has turned over many times since
then, and many things have changed.

Your and others' responses tend to reinforce my hope that we can follow the
best-possible course of action as I perceive it.  I had not considered
providing and receiving .mif files.  That would be even simpler.

As circumstances have it, "the powers who are" apparently already have
identified a subcontractor and might already be contractually committed.
So, we'll work with that situation.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 03:10
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi dave,

What exactly are you looking for in terms of consideration?

Translating FM files from English to Portuguese shouldn't be any problem for
a translation agency. Framemaker will support Portuguese in any FM version.
The specific availability of Portuguese dictionary and hyphenation in FM 9
and higher only gives you more control on spelling and hyphenation, but as
Portuguese fits in the basic latin character set it will be displayed ok I
any FM version (5.5, 6, 7, ..).

The procedure for creating HTML help or CHM is the same as you would use for
your English source files. When compiling the CHM set the language to
Portuguese to get Portuguese hyperlinks (for Next, Previous, etc). 

If you've never translated FM files before, my advise is to find a
translation agency nearby. Save your FM files as MIF and send that to them.
In return you'll receive MIF files with Portuguese text, open these in FM
and save as FM. That's it. Again, this will work for any FM version.

To create Help you'll need another tool, like Mif2Go, webworks, robohelp, or
other.


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel

tel. +31652036811
Skype wimhooghwinkel
Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
i...@idtp.eu
www.idtp.eu
www.nldita.nl

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Translating English to Portuguese

[Ragnar Hanås]

Depends on the budget you have. I've done all my books (300-400 pages) with
colleagues translating the text in the S-tagger produced rtf files - no
professionals involved, and quite straight forward. Producing the rtf
S-tagger files is no problem, the filter is easy to use even for an amateur
(I am a doctor, but have used FM for writing books since the FM3 version).
I have done Russian in FM 7.2 with the Arial CYR and other CYR fonts. A bit
tricky to set up into the first place, but then it works very smoothly.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:53 PM
To: ragnar.hanas at betamed.se; Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Yes, but you should leave the S-tagger part and translation to a
professional translator or bureau. Don't do it yourself. It's their job.
Just provide MIF files and receive MIF files back.

Note that for Russian you'd need at least Framemaker 8 - and instruct the
translation vendor to process the MIF (with S-tagger) as Unicode, not
default FrameMaker as up to FM 7.


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 ? December 2011 in Utrecht ? Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 ?
April 2012 in Utrecht ? Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 ? june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent ?
DITA and topic based information development tel. +31652036811 Skype
wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.hanas at betamed.se]
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 november 2011 17:26
Aan: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com; wim at idtp.eu; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

The S-Tagger filter from Trados is a very convenient way of translating from
FM. I have used it for 10 different languages, including Russian. You export
rtf files with color-coded tags from FM, so it is very easy to see what to
translate, and what not to touch. Cross-references (like "page 65") are
colored, so the translator knows that that should be left as is. When
importing the translated file, S-Tagger provides you with a list of any
errors that have been made (like deleting a tag by accident), so you can
easily fix it. With mif files it is much more difficult to see what to
translate, and what is code text.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital,
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:26 PM
To: wim at idtp.eu; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T14:25Z

Wim -

For one translation, we provided and received .fm files.  For the other
translation, we provided and received .rtf files.

My thought was to provide and receive .fm files; then, convert the
translated .fm files into on-station help.  Translate once; use twice.
(Unfortunately, many persons still do not know of this concept.)

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 09:20
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi Dave,

If you didn't consider MIF files, what would have been your approach (just
curious ...)?


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 - December 2011 in Utrecht - Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 -
April 2012 in Utrecht - Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 - june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent -
DITA and topic based information development tel. +31652036811 Skype
wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu


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Van: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com]
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 november 2011 14:53
Aan: wim at idtp.eu; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T13:55Z

Wim -

?Thanks for your encouraging words, expertise, and information!

More than five years ago, we did translate into two foreign languages, so we
do have some experience.  But, the world has turned over many times since
then, and many things have changed.

Your and others' responses tend to reinforce my hope that we can follow the
best-possible course of act

Translating English to Portuguese

[Ragnar Hanås]

The S-Tagger filter from Trados is a very convenient way of translating from
FM. I have used it for 10 different languages, including Russian. You export
rtf files with color-coded tags from FM, so it is very easy to see what to
translate, and what not to touch. Cross-references (like "page 65") are
colored, so the translator knows that that should be left as is. When
importing the translated file, S-Tagger provides you with a list of any
errors that have been made (like deleting a tag by accident), so you can
easily fix it. With mif files it is much more difficult to see what to
translate, and what is code text.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital,
Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:26 PM
To: wim at idtp.eu; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T14:25Z

Wim -

For one translation, we provided and received .fm files.  For the other
translation, we provided and received .rtf files.

My thought was to provide and receive .fm files; then, convert the
translated .fm files into on-station help.  Translate once; use twice.
(Unfortunately, many persons still do not know of this concept.)

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 09:20
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi Dave,

If you didn't consider MIF files, what would have been your approach (just
curious ...)?


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
FrameMaker NLDITA Winter 2011 - December 2011 in Utrecht - Special about
localization and translation of DITA and XML content NLDITA Tools 2012 -
April 2012 in Utrecht - Tools and best practices for Authoring, Managing and
Publishing NLDITA Information Energy 2012 - june 2012 in Utrecht and Ghent -
DITA and topic based information development tel. +31652036811 Skype
wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com]
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 november 2011 14:53
Aan: wim at idtp.eu; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

2011-11-11-05T13:55Z

Wim -

?Thanks for your encouraging words, expertise, and information!

More than five years ago, we did translate into two foreign languages, so we
do have some experience.  But, the world has turned over many times since
then, and many things have changed.

Your and others' responses tend to reinforce my hope that we can follow the
best-possible course of action as I perceive it.  I had not considered
providing and receiving .mif files.  That would be even simpler.

As circumstances have it, "the powers who are" apparently already have
identified a subcontractor and might already be contractually committed.
So, we'll work with that situation.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606


-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: 2011-Nov-11-Fri 03:10
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: RE: Translating English to Portuguese

Hi dave,

What exactly are you looking for in terms of consideration?

Translating FM files from English to Portuguese shouldn't be any problem for
a translation agency. Framemaker will support Portuguese in any FM version.
The specific availability of Portuguese dictionary and hyphenation in FM 9
and higher only gives you more control on spelling and hyphenation, but as
Portuguese fits in the basic latin character set it will be displayed ok I
any FM version (5.5, 6, 7, ..).

The procedure for creating HTML help or CHM is the same as you would use for
your English source files. When compiling the CHM set the language to
Portuguese to get Portuguese hyperlinks (for Next, Previous, etc). 

If you've never translated FM files before, my advise is to find a
translation agency nearby. Save your FM files as MIF and send that to them.
In return you'll receive MIF files with Portuguese text, open these in FM
and save as FM. That's it. Again, this will work for any FM version.

To create Help you'll need another tool, like Mif2Go, webworks, robohelp, or
other.


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel

tel. +31652036811
Skype wimhooghwinkel
Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
info at idtp.eu
www.idtp.eu
www.nldita.nl

FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu



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RE: Coaching engineers

[Ragnar Hanås]

Please, can you keep this discussion off the list? Many of us who appreciate 
this list are neither technical writers nor engineers.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas, MD, PhD

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

 

 

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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Ron Tillotson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Coaching engineers

 

Have to agree absolutely.  As a potential consultant recently pointed out, 
engineers (indeed scientists in general) haven't studied how to use language as 
a form of communication since the days of their 'O'-levels or GCSEs (Grade 9 to 
my American friends). 

 

Ant Davey  

 

 


On 06 October 2011 at 18:25 Ron Tillotson  wrote: 

> In the role of a technical writing consultant, contracted to coach or 
> facilitate a learning process to give 
> engineers the opportunity to improve specific writing skills, can be very 
> effective. 
> 
> Ron Tillotson 
> 
> Technical Writer 
> 
> P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 
> 
> 
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Coaching engineers

[Ragnar Hanås]

Please, can you keep this discussion off the list? Many of us who appreciate 
this list are neither technical writers nor engineers.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas, MD, PhD

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden





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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Ron Tillotson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Coaching engineers



Have to agree absolutely.  As a potential consultant recently pointed out, 
engineers (indeed scientists in general) haven't studied how to use language as 
a form of communication since the days of their 'O'-levels or GCSEs (Grade 9 to 
my American friends). 



Ant Davey  






On 06 October 2011 at 18:25 Ron Tillotson  wrote: 

> In the role of a technical writing consultant, contracted to coach or 
> facilitate a learning process to give 
> engineers the opportunity to improve specific writing skills, can be very 
> effective. 
> 
> Ron Tillotson 
> 
> Technical Writer 
> 
> P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 
> 
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Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I?m using the Frame Script SuperImportBundle which does exactly what you ask
for. You can also import single formats as below: 
ImpSelMasterPage (Imports master pages) 
ImpSelRefPage  (Imports reference pages)
* ImpSelPgfFmt (Imports paragraph formats)
* ImpSelCharFmt (Imports character formats)
* ImpSelVarFmt (Imports variable formats)
* ImpSelTblFmt (Imports table formats)
* ImpSelColors (Imports colors)
* ImpSelXRefFmt (Imports cross ref formats)
* ImpSelCondFmt (Imports condition formats)
* ImpSelRulingFmt (Imports ruling formats)
* ImpSelMarkerType (Imports marker types)

See http://framescript.natebus.de/index.php?navi=superimportbundle (in
German, but the script is in English). It is worth every penny if you have
Frame Script.
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Harding, Daniel B; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from
another FM file?

At 14:41 + 19/8/11, Harding, Daniel B wrote:

>FM10 (Win7 64-bit)
>
>I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style
definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and
no content.
>
>How do I do this?

Not a stupid question at all. In addition to Fred and other's responses, if
you want to import a single (or multiple) style across a whole book or
books, try this:

. Copy the document that contains the style you want to propagate. This will
be your 'seed' document for the new/revised style.

. Open the copy and delete all the styles except the one of interest
('Delete' from the relevant palette).

. Import across the book(s) from that document, choosing character,
paragraph or table format import as appropriate (File > Import > Formats).

. Discard the copied document that acted as the 'seed' for the new style
definition.

If the style doesn't already exist in the book(s), it will be added to the
relevant catalog for each document in the book. If the style does exist in
the book(s), the imported style will overwrite the existing style of the
same name.

Obviously you can do this as well for multiple styles.

If you find yourself doing this a lot, SiliconPrairie's very reasonably
priced plug-ins (Character Tools, PAragraph Tools and Table Tools) offer a
command to delete all styles of the relevant type that are not used in a
document.

[These instructions are for pre-FrameMaker v 9 versions: I'm not
sufficiently familiar with the new interface to know where you go to delete
styles in v 10, but it'll be somewhere.]

-- 
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I´m using the Frame Script SuperImportBundle which does exactly what you ask
for. You can also import single formats as below: 
ImpSelMasterPage (Imports master pages) 
ImpSelRefPage  (Imports reference pages)
* ImpSelPgfFmt (Imports paragraph formats)
* ImpSelCharFmt (Imports character formats)
* ImpSelVarFmt (Imports variable formats)
* ImpSelTblFmt (Imports table formats)
* ImpSelColors (Imports colors)
* ImpSelXRefFmt (Imports cross ref formats)
* ImpSelCondFmt (Imports condition formats)
* ImpSelRulingFmt (Imports ruling formats)
* ImpSelMarkerType (Imports marker types)

See http://framescript.natebus.de/index.php?navi=superimportbundle (in
German, but the script is in English). It is worth every penny if you have
Frame Script.
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Harding, Daniel B; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from
another FM file?

At 14:41 + 19/8/11, Harding, Daniel B wrote:

>FM10 (Win7 64-bit)
>
>I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style
definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and
no content.
>
>How do I do this?

Not a stupid question at all. In addition to Fred and other's responses, if
you want to import a single (or multiple) style across a whole book or
books, try this:

. Copy the document that contains the style you want to propagate. This will
be your 'seed' document for the new/revised style.

. Open the copy and delete all the styles except the one of interest
('Delete' from the relevant palette).

. Import across the book(s) from that document, choosing character,
paragraph or table format import as appropriate (File > Import > Formats).

. Discard the copied document that acted as the 'seed' for the new style
definition.

If the style doesn't already exist in the book(s), it will be added to the
relevant catalog for each document in the book. If the style does exist in
the book(s), the imported style will overwrite the existing style of the
same name.

Obviously you can do this as well for multiple styles.

If you find yourself doing this a lot, SiliconPrairie's very reasonably
priced plug-ins (Character Tools, PAragraph Tools and Table Tools) offer a
command to delete all styles of the relevant type that are not used in a
document.

[These instructions are for pre-FrameMaker v 9 versions: I'm not
sufficiently familiar with the new interface to know where you go to delete
styles in v 10, but it'll be somewhere.]

-- 
Steve
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Characters changing when moving from FM7 to FM9

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I raised this topic previously and have given it some more thought. The
problem is that for certain symbol fonts (Dixieland, Geographic Symbols,
Symbol Prop BT among others) the character displays incorrectly when a FM7
file is saved as FM9. Saving as FM7 mif gives the same result. With some
experimenting, I have found a fairly easy way to determine which character
change will take place. When replacing the hex code in the FM7 mif file to
that of the corresponding character, it then opens correctly in FM9. The
result is consistent over fonts, so if all characters in the ascii table
were mapped, it would be possible to find a universal hex replacement
procedure for all these fonts. Someone knowledgeable in hex could possibly
see a system in the replacements, and understand why this problem at all
takes place. The problem fonts may originate from Corel, but I don´t really
remember where I got them from. I have mapped those 25 characters I so far
have found in my FM7 files that behave incorrect. 

 

My question is therefore if someone can write a script that saves a FM7 file
to mif, does a multiple find and replace for the hex codes in the mif, and
then saves to FM7 again. When this new FM7 file is opened in FM9, the
characters will display correctly. I can send the character file off-list.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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Characters changing when moving from FM7 to FM9

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I raised this topic previously and have given it some more thought. The
problem is that for certain symbol fonts (Dixieland, Geographic Symbols,
Symbol Prop BT among others) the character displays incorrectly when a FM7
file is saved as FM9. Saving as FM7 mif gives the same result. With some
experimenting, I have found a fairly easy way to determine which character
change will take place. When replacing the hex code in the FM7 mif file to
that of the corresponding character, it then opens correctly in FM9. The
result is consistent over fonts, so if all characters in the ascii table
were mapped, it would be possible to find a universal hex replacement
procedure for all these fonts. Someone knowledgeable in hex could possibly
see a system in the replacements, and understand why this problem at all
takes place. The problem fonts may originate from Corel, but I don?t really
remember where I got them from. I have mapped those 25 characters I so far
have found in my FM7 files that behave incorrect. 



My question is therefore if someone can write a script that saves a FM7 file
to mif, does a multiple find and replace for the hex codes in the mif, and
then saves to FM7 again. When this new FM7 file is opened in FM9, the
characters will display correctly. I can send the character file off-list.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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Characters changing when moving from FM7 to FM9

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I raised this topic previously and have given it some more thought. The
problem is that for certain symbol fonts (Dixieland, Geographic Symbols,
Symbol Prop BT among others) the character displays incorrectly when a FM7
file is saved as FM9. Saving as FM7 mif gives the same result. With some
experimenting, I have found a fairly easy way to determine which character
change will take place. When replacing the hex code in the FM7 mif file to
that of the corresponding character, it then opens correctly in FM9. The
result is consistent over fonts, so if all characters in the ascii table
were mapped, it would be possible to find a universal hex replacement
procedure for all these fonts. Someone knowledgeable in hex could possibly
see a system in the replacements, and understand why this problem at all
takes place. The problem fonts may originate from Corel, but I don?t really
remember where I got them from. I have mapped those characters I so far have
found in my files (see attached file). 



My question is therefore if someone can write a script that saves a FM7 file
to mif, does a multiple find and replace for the hex codes in the mif, and
then saves to FM7 again. When this new FM7 file is opened in FM9, the
characters will display correctly.

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

[Ragnar Hanås]

Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so 
this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some 
explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving 
to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it 
uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when 
opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. 
another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to 
Arial a different letter appears.
Regards,
Ragnar

-Original Message-
From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.ha...@betamed.se
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

Hi Ragnar,

The solution from Jim is a good one.

Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font.  
The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a 
built‑in Character Palette.

With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using:

File  ==>  Utilities  ==>  Character Palette...

The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the 
list of those available on your computer.  You can select more than one 
character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you 
use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes.

Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the 
Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts).  
  On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not.  I do not 
know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I 
just accept those that work with gratitude8-)

Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire.  And you can also 
select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your 
Character Catalog).

Best of luck,

Ed DeRosier 


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM
To: Ragnar Hanås; De Rosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds 
more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then 
apply it. 

-Original Message-
From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts 
in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work 
fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than 
outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are 
Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in 
docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up 
because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters 
and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols 
(Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my 
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that 
needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template 
and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that 
wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates 
folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a 
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, Janu

RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

[Ragnar Hanås]

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland
fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem
to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this
than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as
are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9
in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed
up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different
characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to
the symbols (Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles
that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist
template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly
could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my
templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template
into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked
well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Hi Framers,

I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2).

The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets
for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE).
The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to
"Symbol" font.

[Ctrl][q] [3]  =>  GTE  (this produces a small box) or
[Alt][0179]=>  GTE  (this works)

[Ctrl][q] [#]  =>  LTE  (this works)
or
[Alt][0163]=>  LTE  (this works)


Problem:
  [Ctrl][q] [3]  ==>  S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font
  [Alt][0179]==>  superscript 3, and also GTE  in Symbol font

In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in
Symbol font.
Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using
[Ctrl][q] [3].
While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with
opening FM7.2 documents in FM9.  Will previously created GTE characters be
lost?
This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our
previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2.

I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire
book and saved all files.  Then I checked the GTE characters, and they
looked fine.  Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same
problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3].
This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are "safe", but I am suspicous
of this new behavior and seek assurances.

My system:
Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2
Version 9.0p230

Windows XP Professional
Version 2002, Service Pack 2

Dell
Intel Core2 Duo CPU
E8500 @ 3.16GHz
3.25 GB RAM

Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ?

We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same
behavior of FM9.

Thanks for your help and opinions.

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company

edward.deros...@anritsu.com
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FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

[Ragnar Hanås]

Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so 
this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some 
explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving 
to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it 
uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when 
opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. 
another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to 
Arial a different letter appears.
Regards,
Ragnar

-Original Message-
From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.hanas at betamed.se
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

Hi Ragnar,

The solution from Jim is a good one.

Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font.  
The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a 
built?in Character Palette.

With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using:

File  ==>  Utilities  ==>  Character Palette...

The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the 
list of those available on your computer.  You can select more than one 
character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you 
use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes.

Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the 
Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts).  
  On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not.  I do not 
know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I 
just accept those that work with gratitude8-)

Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire.  And you can also 
select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your 
Character Catalog).

Best of luck,

Ed DeRosier 


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM
To: Ragnar Han?s; De Rosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds 
more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then 
apply it. 

-Original Message-
From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts 
in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work 
fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than 
outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are 
Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in 
docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up 
because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters 
and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols 
(Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my 
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that 
needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template 
and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that 
wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates 
folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a 
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM
To: framers at lists.fram

FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

[Ragnar Hanås]

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland
fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem
to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this
than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as
are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9
in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed
up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different
characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to
the symbols (Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles
that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist
template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly
could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my
templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template
into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked
well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Hi Framers,

I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2).

The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets
for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE).
The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to
"Symbol" font.

[Ctrl][q] [3]  =>  GTE  (this produces a small box) or
[Alt][0179]=>  GTE  (this works)

[Ctrl][q] [#]  =>  LTE  (this works)
or
[Alt][0163]=>  LTE  (this works)


Problem:
  [Ctrl][q] [3]  ==>  S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font
  [Alt][0179]==>  superscript 3, and also GTE  in Symbol font

In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in
Symbol font.
Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using
[Ctrl][q] [3].
While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with
opening FM7.2 documents in FM9.  Will previously created GTE characters be
lost?
This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our
previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2.

I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire
book and saved all files.  Then I checked the GTE characters, and they
looked fine.  Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same
problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3].
This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are "safe", but I am suspicous
of this new behavior and seek assurances.

My system:
Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2
Version 9.0p230

Windows XP Professional
Version 2002, Service Pack 2

Dell
Intel Core2 Duo CPU
E8500 @ 3.16GHz
3.25 GB RAM

Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ?

We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same
behavior of FM9.

Thanks for your help and opinions.

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company

Edward.DeRosier at anritsu.com
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RE: URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker

[Ragnar Hanås]

For Russian, you need to have the font Arial CYR installed. Times new Roman CYR 
and a few other fonts are also available. I remember downloading these from 
Microsoft. The Arial font is in a file called arial32.exe. I have published 
several books in Russian with FM6 and FM7 without problems.

 

I also got the Simsun font to show Chinese characters nicely for FM6, but don´t 
remember exactly how I did this. But I found an old e-mail saying:

 

You don't specify which version of FrameMaker you're using,

> but, at least for versions 7.2 and earlier, you need to set

> the operating system's language for non-Unicode programs to

> an appropriate value to successfully use Far Eastern

> languages in dialog boxes.

> 

> 1. In Windows Control Panel, open the "Regional and Language

> Options" applet.

> 2. In the "Regional and Language Options" dialog, display the

> "Advanced" tab.

> 3. Select the language you want to work with, for example

> Chinese (PRC).

> 4. Restart the computer.

 

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital,

Sweden

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN)
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: 'Keerthi Latha'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker

 

Dear Keerthi,

 

As far as I know, FrameMaker 7 is not Unicode-enabled. Try turning on support 
for each language in Control Panel of your OS, or try upgrading to FrameMaker 8 
or higher.

 

Kindest,

Wei Jiang
Senior Chinese Translator, 
Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects
Beijin, China

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keerthi Latha
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker

 

Hi Frame users,

 

I am Keerthi and working on multiple languages. I need to copy the different 
languages and port it to FrameMaker 7.1. I am facing the following issues:

 

 


Language

Issue


Korean

The Korean fonts (Gulim, GulimChe, Dotum, and DotumChe (True type)) are 
available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I copy and paste the content in 
FrameMaker and apply the fonts, the content is not the same, there are “?” in 
between.



Russian

The Russian font (Arial) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows “?”


zh-hans

The Chinese font (simsun) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows “?” 


zh-hant

The Chinese font (mingliu) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows “?”

 

Can any one help in resolving these issues? 

 

Thanks,

Keerthi

 

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URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker

[Ragnar Hanås]

For Russian, you need to have the font Arial CYR installed. Times new Roman CYR 
and a few other fonts are also available. I remember downloading these from 
Microsoft. The Arial font is in a file called arial32.exe. I have published 
several books in Russian with FM6 and FM7 without problems.



I also got the Simsun font to show Chinese characters nicely for FM6, but don?t 
remember exactly how I did this. But I found an old e-mail saying:



You don't specify which version of FrameMaker you're using,

> but, at least for versions 7.2 and earlier, you need to set

> the operating system's language for non-Unicode programs to

> an appropriate value to successfully use Far Eastern

> languages in dialog boxes.

> 

> 1. In Windows Control Panel, open the "Regional and Language

> Options" applet.

> 2. In the "Regional and Language Options" dialog, display the

> "Advanced" tab.

> 3. Select the language you want to work with, for example

> Chinese (PRC).

> 4. Restart the computer.



Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital,

Sweden



From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN)
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: 'Keerthi Latha'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker



Dear Keerthi,



As far as I know, FrameMaker 7 is not Unicode-enabled. Try turning on support 
for each language in Control Panel of your OS, or try upgrading to FrameMaker 8 
or higher.



Kindest,

Wei Jiang
Senior Chinese Translator, 
Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects
Beijin, China







From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keerthi Latha
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:57 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: URGENT: Need help in using fonts in FrameMaker



Hi Frame users,



I am Keerthi and working on multiple languages. I need to copy the different 
languages and port it to FrameMaker 7.1. I am facing the following issues:






Language

Issue


Korean

The Korean fonts (Gulim, GulimChe, Dotum, and DotumChe (True type)) are 
available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I copy and paste the content in 
FrameMaker and apply the fonts, the content is not the same, there are ??? in 
between.



Russian

The Russian font (Arial) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows ???


zh-hans

The Chinese font (simsun) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows ??? 


zh-hant

The Chinese font (mingliu) is available in the FrameMaker font list, but when I 
copy and paste the content in FrameMaker, the content shows ???



Can any one help in resolving these issues? 



Thanks,

Keerthi



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So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

[Ragnar Hanås]

7.2 was fine for me until I upgraded to Windows 7. I then began to
experience a lot of crashes, most of them when highlighting text or moving
borders of frames. Adobe wouldn?t upgrade to FM9 when I tried 2 days after
the release of FM10 (FM10 wasn?t even available in Sweden at that time), but
I was lucky enough to get hold of an unopened FM9 box at a very good price
via Blocket.se

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of B??var
Bj?rgvinsson
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 7:42 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Carrie Baker
Subject: Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?



7.2 here. FM10 has not really met my needs (spellchecking and hyphenation in
Icelandic), so I can just as well continue with 7.2 until FM breaks free of
the bonds that is keeping them from expanding these tools to other languages
than the few they are supporting.



Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

Iceland



2011/3/1 Carrie Baker 

I am in a small company with not really any justification to move to Frame 8
or 9. Frame7 seems sufficient for what we need, and they do have quite a
tight budget.

However, now I understand that even if I want to, moving to Frame 10 is not
an upgrade, but purchase a new license.



Are others in the same boat?

Is there any point in trying to get an upgrade to version 9, and then at a
later point upgrading again?

-- 
Carrie Baker
carriebak at gmail.com


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RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

[Ragnar Hanås]

7.2 was fine for me until I upgraded to Windows 7. I then began to
experience a lot of crashes, most of them when highlighting text or moving
borders of frames. Adobe wouldn´t upgrade to FM9 when I tried 2 days after
the release of FM10 (FM10 wasn’t even available in Sweden at that time), but
I was lucky enough to get hold of an unopened FM9 box at a very good price
via Blocket.se

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital

Sweden

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 7:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Carrie Baker
Subject: Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

 

7.2 here. FM10 has not really met my needs (spellchecking and hyphenation in
Icelandic), so I can just as well continue with 7.2 until FM breaks free of
the bonds that is keeping them from expanding these tools to other languages
than the few they are supporting.

 

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

Iceland

 

2011/3/1 Carrie Baker 

I am in a small company with not really any justification to move to Frame 8
or 9. Frame7 seems sufficient for what we need, and they do have quite a
tight budget.

However, now I understand that even if I want to, moving to Frame 10 is not
an upgrade, but purchase a new license.

 

Are others in the same boat?

Is there any point in trying to get an upgrade to version 9, and then at a
later point upgrading again?

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FM6 on Vista and MicroType Toolbar Express

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I?ve just began using FM 6 on Vista and the program runs fine after
installing the Adobe fixes. But I cannot get the MicroType Toolbar to work
(I downloaded the free version some years ago and have had great use of it).
I copied the maker.ini and the files to another computer running XP and now
the toolbar shows nicely. Am I wasting my time trying to get the Toolbar to
work with Vista or??

(In Vista, the list of fonts from the Menu row lists a huge number of fonts
but stops at those beginning with M so I need the drop-down list in Toolbar
Express) 

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

PS I still use the good old 6.0 for compatibility with a lot of co-workers
around the world

FM6 on Vista and MicroType Toolbar Express

[Ragnar Hanås]

Hello,

I´ve just began using FM 6 on Vista and the program runs fine after
installing the Adobe fixes. But I cannot get the MicroType Toolbar to work
(I downloaded the free version some years ago and have had great use of it).
I copied the maker.ini and the files to another computer running XP and now
the toolbar shows nicely. Am I wasting my time trying to get the Toolbar to
work with Vista or??

(In Vista, the list of fonts from the Menu row lists a huge number of fonts
but stops at those beginning with M so I need the drop-down list in Toolbar
Express) 

Thanks,

Ragnar Hanas

Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

PS I still use the good old 6.0 for compatibility with a lot of co-workers
around the world

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