RE: Indexing front matter

2011-01-14 Thread DeRosier, Edward

Hi Nancy,

This suggestion is sent only because you solicited "all suggestions" in
your appeal.

You might consider assigning a Text format to your preface file so that
the page numbers appear as something similar to:

Preface - 1, Preface - 2, Preface - 3

P - 1, P - 2, P - 3

Or something esthetically pleasing to your document style.

Sorry, this is not a real answer to your question.

Good luck,

Ed DeRosier
Anritsu Company

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From: Nancy Allison 
Subject: Indexing front matter

Hi, all.

My manuals use chapter numbering, so an index entry for page 3 of
chapter 5 comes out like this:

Apple pie recipe, 5-3

The front matter has roman numerals with no prefixes, so a reference to
Technical Support in the Preface should look like this:

Technical Support, xiii

...

I know how to set up a new IX format in the Reference page of the Index,
which would use only the <$pagenum> variable.

What I can't figure out is, how do I assign that format to the Preface
entry only? 

Thanks for all suggestions.

--Nancy
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Re: RE: Indexing front matter

2011-01-14 Thread Nancy Allison
Thank you, everyone! This list is a treasure.

--Nancy


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RE: Indexing front matter

2011-01-13 Thread Combs, Richard
I forgot step 6. Maybe it doesn't need to be said, but... 
 
> 1) Create a new marker type named IndexFront.
> 2) Create a new paragraph format named IndexFrontIX that's a clone of
> IndexIX and add it to your pgf catalog.
> 3) In your ref page IX flow, add an IndexFrontIX pgf that contains only
> <$pagenum>.
> 4) In the book window, right-click your index file and select Set Up
> Standard Index.
> 5) In the dialog box, add IndexFront to the Include list and click Set.

6) Use the IndexFront marker type instead of Index for front-matter index 
entries. 


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RE: Indexing front matter

2011-01-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote: 
 
> My manuals use chapter numbering, so an index entry for page 3 of chapter 5
> comes out like this:
> 
> Apple pie recipe, 5-3
> 
> The front matter has roman numerals with no prefixes, so a reference to
> Technical Support in the Preface should look like this:
> 
> Technical Support, xiii
> 
> However, because the Index marker set up on the Reference page assumes
> there is a chapter number prefix for every entry, the Technical Reference
> Support looks like this:
> 
> 4-xiii, or 1-xiii, or 0-xiii
> 
> depending on how I set the numbering property.


It's been a while since I used folio numbering. If I'm remembering correctly, 
the process is something like this: 

1) Create a new marker type named IndexFront. 
2) Create a new paragraph format named IndexFrontIX that's a clone of IndexIX 
and add it to your pgf catalog. 
3) In your ref page IX flow, add an IndexFrontIX pgf that contains only 
<$pagenum>. 
4) In the book window, right-click your index file and select Set Up Standard 
Index. 
5) In the dialog box, add IndexFront to the Include list and click Set. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Indexing front matter

2011-01-13 Thread Lief Erickson
You could use a different marker for the content in your preface, include that 
marker in your index, and use different page formatting for that marker. It 
would be a new marker type that you would create. You might call it 
IndexPreface or something like that.

I have done something similar with tables and figures. In my index tables and 
figures are formatted differently so that they are more easily identifiable as 
content in a table or a figure rather than in body text.

-Lief

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Subject: Indexing front matter

Hi, all.

My manuals use chapter numbering, so an index entry for page 3 of chapter 5 
comes out like this:

Apple pie recipe, 5-3

The front matter has roman numerals with no prefixes, so a reference to 
Technical Support in the Preface should look like this:

Technical Support, xiii

However, because the Index marker set up on the Reference page assumes there is 
a chapter number prefix for every entry, the Technical Reference Support looks 
like this:

4-xiii, or 1-xiii, or 0-xiii

depending on how I set the numbering property.

I know I could solve the problem by moving to straight-through numbering, or by 
moving the Tech Support information to some other location in a regular 
chapter, but there are problems with both these solutions. Right now, I want to 
stick with figuring out how to use Frame correctly to create the entry I want, 
which would be

Tech Support, xiii

I know how to set up a new IX format in the Reference page of the Index, which 
would use only the <$pagenum> variable.

What I can't figure out is, how do I assign that format to the Preface entry 
only? 

Thanks for all suggestions.

--Nancy
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Re: Indexing front matter

2011-01-13 Thread Art Campbell
You can set the Chapnum variable for the Preface (in the book file) to
text and the value to a space.

Still need to get rid of the hyphen, but if that's manually added to
the <$chapnum>-<$pagenuum> string, it's easy to remove.

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> My manuals use chapter numbering, so an index entry for page 3 of chapter 5 
> comes out like this:
>
> Apple pie recipe, 5-3
>
> The front matter has roman numerals with no prefixes, so a reference to 
> Technical Support in the Preface should look like this:
>
> Technical Support, xiii
>
> However, because the Index marker set up on the Reference page assumes there 
> is a chapter number prefix for every entry, the Technical Reference Support 
> looks like this:
>
> 4-xiii, or 1-xiii, or 0-xiii
>
> depending on how I set the numbering property.
>
> I know I could solve the problem by moving to straight-through numbering, or 
> by moving the Tech Support information to some other location in a regular 
> chapter, but there are problems with both these solutions. Right now, I want 
> to stick with figuring out how to use Frame correctly to create the entry I 
> want, which would be
>
> Tech Support, xiii
>
> I know how to set up a new IX format in the Reference page of the Index, 
> which would use only the <$pagenum> variable.
>
> What I can't figure out is, how do I assign that format to the Preface entry 
> only?
>
> Thanks for all suggestions.
>
> --Nancy
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