Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:46:20PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:

>   Personally, I'm astonished that an SMP kernel will actually boot 
> and run on a uniprocessor machine.

Grr, still getting used to mutt, and I didn't reply to the list.  Yes, I'm
using an SMP board, and waiting on the arrival of the 2nd processor.  It
boots up and runs fine.

>   Before pointing any fingers at softupdates, etc... I think that 
> the first thing I'd do on this machine is switch back to using a real 
> uniprocessor kernel, and then see if I could replicate the problems.

Yup, I've "fallen back to" a UP kernel, which hasn't crashed at all, and
I've done the same thing (rm -rf, cvs update) many more times than were
required to crash the SMP kernel.  Before I try this again, I'll have a
second processor in there..

- alex


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Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread John Baldwin

Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 7:36 PM + 2000/8/28, Alex Zepeda wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps in a rush to get started, I've compiled and
> >  been using a SMP kernel even before the second processor arrives.  This
> >  has worked fine, however I've gotten some rather weird hangs and crashes
> >  resulting in a nice lost+found directory on the usr fs.
> 
>   Personally, I'm astonished that an SMP kernel will actually boot 
> and run on a uniprocessor machine.

Well, it does work.  Right now if we enable multiple CPU's with SMPng the
machine instantly panics, so we use a sysctl that keeps all the extra
processors waiting until we are ready to kill the machine.  Until that
point in time, however, the machine runs happily on 1 cpu, and can build
world ok, etc.

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Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles

At 7:36 PM + 2000/8/28, Alex Zepeda wrote:

> Perhaps in a rush to get started, I've compiled and
>  been using a SMP kernel even before the second processor arrives.  This
>  has worked fine, however I've gotten some rather weird hangs and crashes
>  resulting in a nice lost+found directory on the usr fs.

Personally, I'm astonished that an SMP kernel will actually boot 
and run on a uniprocessor machine.

Before pointing any fingers at softupdates, etc... I think that 
the first thing I'd do on this machine is switch back to using a real 
uniprocessor kernel, and then see if I could replicate the problems.

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SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-27 Thread Alex Zepeda

In upgrading my system I've bought a shiny new SMP mobo to go with my new
30gb Deskstar...  The nice thing about this new board is my HighPoint
HPT366 based IDE controller works now (Buggy Phoenix BIOSes prevented it
from working before).  Perhaps in a rush to get started, I've compiled and
been using a SMP kernel even before the second processor arrives.  This
has worked fine, however I've gotten some rather weird hangs and crashes
resulting in a nice lost+found directory on the usr fs.  In trying to
track this down, I've tried a UP kernel which seems to not have crashed
where the SMP one did before..  I'm sure it's not a cooling issue as the
sole CPU is staying below 35C.

However I'm curious:

* Are there any known issues with SMP and softupdates as of late?
* Is running one processor with an SMP kernel such a horrible idea (other
than performance wise)?

I'm glad I can run my harddrives (Caviar and Deskstar) at ATA66 speeds..
but having to tread lightly is sucking.

- alex


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